Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 In message you wrote: > SNIP........ > I know that tina beAn used the KT in her eyes as an eyewash, and, while > I have not tried it, I have used it as makeup remover on my eyelids with > no problem. I don't think it would be harmful to try in the eyes, > although I would probably dilute it with boiled water. I had a really great Kombucha on/in eye experience yesterday: I had been handling raw garlic, hot peppers and raw ginger (making Rusty's pickled egg recipe ;-) which must have soaked into my skin and remained even after washing my hands. And ..... you know how it is! You get an itch in the eye and rub...it's almost automatic.... It was like flames bursting in my eye... I was really worried my eye was being consumed in its socket. At the time I was drinking an undiluted strong glass of Kombucha. I was in such desperate pain that I immediately dunked my hankie in it and pressed the cool liquid onto my eye, with some of the juice also running into it. It only took half a minute for every last trace of irritation to have vanished. I was thrilled! Of course, I accidentally managed to rub my other eye next time....outch!! And again, Kombucha dealt with the pain beautifully, putting the fire out in next to no time. I have always been impressed with Kombucha, but now I am in awe :-) I'm also grateful to beaN for suggesting Kombucha on/in eyes. So I guessed already it would be o.k.. She was right! with my vision refreshed and cleared.... Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< www.AnswersInGenesis.com +---------------------------------------------------------------+ You cannot lose what you give away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hi Margret: Thanks for posting this very interesting experience and another good use for kombucha! I don't know if this is related or will explain why it worked, but I remember reading something in s' cookbook " Red Hot Peppers " that a bleach solution would remove the burning effects of hot chilis on the hands. I don't have access to her book at the moment, but I found this bit from a Web site that explains the concept: " If you're too stubborn to wear rubber gloves when you're cutting chiles, then you are justified to worry that you might rub your eyes. And this goes double for people who wear contact lenses and have to take them out at some point. WELL, there really IS a bonafide solution here, and I do mean solution. Just get yourself a little bowl of clorox (bleach), diluted 5 parts water to 1 part bleach. Just dip your fingers in the solution from time to time and you've got the problem licked. Why? Capsaicin compound is not soluble in water, but chlorine or ammonia turns it into a salt, which IS soluble in water. Please be advised, though, you should never soak your hands in this solution, that will compound the problem and cause burns. Just dip the fingers quickly. " from http://www.cookingwithcarlo.com/ I don't think kombucha has chlorine or ammonia in it, but perhaps the other acids in kombucha may have the same effect of turning the capsaicin into a salt. Just a guess. I wouldn't put the bleach solution into my eyes, though! Regards, Nori Margret wrote: > It was like flames bursting in my eye... I was really > worried my eye was being consumed in its socket. At the time I was drinking an undiluted strong glass of Kombucha. I was in such desperate pain that I immediately dunked my hankie in it and pressed the cool liquid onto my eye, with some of the juice also running into it. It only took half a minute for every last trace of irritation to have vanished. I was thrilled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 In message <djr0n7+shuueGroups> you wrote: > Just get yourself a > little bowl of clorox (bleach), diluted 5 parts water to 1 part > bleach. Just dip your fingers in the solution from time to time and > you've got the problem licked. Thanks Nori, that's very interesting and I keep it in mind. But I wonder whether acidic Kombucha would have the same effect? I would much prefer it to chlorine. I'll try it next time I handle the strong stuff. I find the chillis actually very soothing and warming on my hands. I'll have to just remember not to touch any delicate parts ;-) love, Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< www.AnswersInGenesis.com +---------------------------------------------------------------+ JOY comes by putting Jesus first, Others second, and Yourself last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 In message <djr12k+ouigeGroups> you wrote: > Can kombucha help improve " night vision " ? > > Any suggestion(s) on ---- How to Improve Night Driving Vision -- will > be greatly appreciated. > Hi Isis, I don't know about Kombucha....it might. But anything with a good dose of vitamin A. Carrot is the classical food for that. Blessings, Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< www.AnswersInGenesis.com +---------------------------------------------------------------+ The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 > Can kombucha help improve " night vision " ? - For night vision the protocol is anthocyanosides pigment found in highes concentration in Bilberries. Blueberries will give about 15% the effect of billberry. This was discovered during War Two when British pilots who regularly had huckeleberry [bilberry] jam for breakfast had better night vison than others. http://www.allnatural.net/herbpages/bilberry.shtml rusty Re: Kombucha on/in eye testimony In message <djr12k+ouigeGroups> you wrote: > Can kombucha help improve " night vision " ? > > Any suggestion(s) on ---- How to Improve Night Driving Vision -- will > be greatly appreciated. > Hi Isis, I don't know about Kombucha....it might. But anything with a good dose of vitamin A. Carrot is the classical food for that. Blessings, Margret:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 >Can kombucha help improve " night vision " ? I have had problems with night vision associated with fibromyalgia and KT has given me improvement in all aspects of my health. >Any suggestion(s) on ---- How to Improve Night Driving Vision -- will >be greatly appreciated. It depends on the reasons for the problem. What I know is that when I started taking 5-HTP for fibromyalgia, my night vision immediately got better and I had been afraid I was going to have to stop driving at night. However, I also have a problem with extra pigment inside my eye (called Kreukenberg's Spindle) which causes me to have a significant problem with glare. I have found that wearing my prescription sunglasses driving at night (they are not black black lenses) actually allows me to see more than if I'm not wearing them. As a musician, this is fun for me because I get to be extra " cool " and it's a medical thing. heh. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Yes, grate 1 carrot, place the grated carrot in a blender, cover with water, whiz until smooth, and drink. Repeat once a day. Works great for me. Re: Kombucha on/in eye testimony > Can kombucha help improve " night vision " ? > > Any suggestion(s) on ---- How to Improve Night Driving Vision -- will > be greatly appreciated. > > Isis > > > > > >> >> > SNIP........ >> >> > I know that tina beAn used the KT in her eyes as an eyewash, and, > while >> > I have not tried it, I have used it as makeup remover on my > eyelids with >> > no problem. I don't think it would be harmful to try in the > eyes, >> > although I would probably dilute it with boiled water. >> >> I had a really great Kombucha on/in eye experience yesterday: >> >> I had been handling raw garlic, hot peppers and raw ginger (making > Rusty's >> pickled egg recipe ;-) which must have soaked into my skin and > remained >> even after washing my hands. And ..... >> >> you know how it is! You get an itch in the eye and rub...it's almost >> automatic.... It was like flames bursting in my eye... I was really >> worried my eye was being consumed in its socket. >> >> At the time I was drinking an undiluted strong glass of Kombucha. I > was in >> such desperate pain that I immediately dunked my hankie in it and > pressed >> the cool liquid onto my eye, with some of the juice also running > into it. >> >> It only took half a minute for every last trace of irritation to > have >> vanished. >> I was thrilled! >> Of course, I accidentally managed to rub my other eye next > time....outch!! >> And again, Kombucha dealt with the pain beautifully, putting the > fire >> out in next to no time. >> >> I have always been impressed with Kombucha, but now I am in awe :-) >> I'm also grateful to beaN for suggesting Kombucha on/in eyes. >> So I guessed already it would be o.k.. >> She was right! >> >> with my vision refreshed and cleared.... >> >> Margret:-) >> -- >> +---------------------------------------------------------------+ >> Minstrel@t... >> <)))<>< www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< >> www.AnswersInGenesis.com >> +---------------------------------------------------------------+ >> You cannot lose what you give away. >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 This post includes info on night blindness: >Thanks Nori, that's very interesting and I keep it in mind. >But I wonder whether acidic Kombucha would have the same effect? >I would much prefer it to chlorine. I don't use chlorine except in dire circumstances. It's really horrible stuff, generating dioxins everywhere it touches (as it degrades). So if you use it as you are preparing food, you're potentially adding dioxins to your food. Chemically it may work to stop the burning, but bad scene. >I'll try it next time I handle the strong stuff. I think KT would indeed work. Also, I was canning my annual salsa a couple years ago and handled massive amounts of chilis; my hands started burning and I about went out of my mind. I was soaking my hands in cold water, and eventually called the Emergency Room because it just kept getting worse and worse. Turns out, water will drive the capsacain deeper into the tissues, which is why it got worse. The thing to do is to put any kind of oil on your skin, jojoba oil, olive oil, coconut oil, salad oil from the grocery store, whatever you've got. The nurse at the ER advised me to do that and it just about instantly stopped the burning. That however might not work in the eyes, and the eyes don't like oils in them. >I find the chillis actually very soothing and warming on my hands. >I'll have to just remember not to touch any delicate parts ;-) Exactly. Capsacain treatment is being used for arthritis and muscular tightness. In fact, the capsacain (active stuff that causes the burning) probably wouldn't injure the eye... in small amounts it is used in herbal eyewashes very successfully (have done so). However, I have used the KT in my eyes and while it burned a bit, it cleared up the irritating gritty feeling I was having, that my usual homeopathic eyedrops just weren't fixing up. Quoting from the recent article posted by from http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/kombucha.html about the scientific literature on studies of kombucha tonic (mainly in Russia and Germany): >bacteriostatic and bacteriocidal efficacy against pneumococcae, >conjunctivitis and xerophtalmia (Naumova E, Konferencija: Kazan'sches >Staatliches Medizinisches Institut, 1949), Conjunctivitis is an infection/inflammation of the red parts around the eye, caused by various bacteria, viruses, or irritants such as allergens. http://www.eyemdlink.com/Condition.asp?ConditionID=6 Xerophtalmia is " night blindness " . > The usual prophylaxis against xerophtalmia is the administration of > vitamin A pills (200,000 International Units). However, it is possible to > overdose vitamin A with subsequent damage to the kidneys. The advantage > of giving beta carotene against xerophtalmia is that the human body > absorbs only the amount it needs and excretes the rest if one has taken > too much. (http://malnutritionzero.online.fr/sub3.htm) So would recommend beta carotene, bilberry (per Rusty's recommendation), and KT. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 I don't use or recommend chlorine (or ammonia) myself. I merely posted that in case it could help explain the mechanism by which KT seemed to neutralize the capsacain in Margret's experience. KT is certainly preferable! Regards, Nori > I don't use chlorine except in dire circumstances. It's really horrible stuff, generating dioxins everywhere it touches (as it degrades). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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