Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 > The question: Suggestions for training modalities geared towards increasing strength without gaining mass? > > Best, > Bill Black > Cumberland FSD, Maine You might be interested in this article directed at gymnastics coaches (who try to maximize strength/weigh ratios too) : http://www.usa-gymnastics.org/publications/technique/1996/8/strength- training.html Sorbo Corona Del Mar, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I don't know where you came up with this assessment of ST. Even a cursory look at the archives should reveal that the emphasis of this group is training for performance. I encourage you to spend a few minutes taking such a look and get an idea of the audience you are addressing before you go to far with the lecture on training basics. The concept of strength defecit and the questionable appropriateness of bodybuilding methods for sport and performance training has been discussed here many times. As far as your question goes: Strength to do what? At what training age? At what point in the season/training cylce? Without describing the intended application, the athlete, and the training context, it is hard to come up with a suggestion. In general, one trains with the demands of the particular performance in mind, using the performance as the measure of success. With most advanced athletes, if this is done properly, there usually isn't a lot of room in the overall training scheme for bodybuilding. Wilbanks. ville, FL. " Bill Black " wrote: << Much of the discussion on this forum is oriented towards gaining mass. However, athletes concerned with endurance sports seek to become stronger without gaining mass and often seek to reduce mass while gaining strength. This ends up being quite a challenge, especially for a well trained athlete who is already as lean as he/she optimally would/should be for maintaining health and performance in one's sport. The question: Suggestions for training modalities geared towards increasing strength without gaining mass?>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Thank you for the article link! This was very helpful. Although it's interesting that the MAX Group (Repeated maximal strength efforts) significantly increased their strength without gaining a lot of mass, woudn't the POWER Group (Power training method) be more ideal in reference to doing sports specific excercise in sprinting? Although, the first method is beneficial in the sense that your ATP levels are not depleted, it doesn't help you increase your lactic acid threshhold. What are you thoughts? Kind Regards, Aponte West Palm Beach, FL, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Hi ! You want to do your metabolic training (Lactate threshold) with interval sprints. Metabolic training such as circuit weight training or HIT training will train lactate threshold but also induce hypertrophy gains in many individuals. Good luck! Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University, USA In Supertraining , Aponte <kealoha_777@y...> wrote: > Thank you for the article link! This was very helpful. > > Although it's interesting that the MAX Group (Repeated maximal strength efforts) significantly increased their strength without gaining a lot of mass, woudn't the POWER Group (Power training method) be more ideal in reference to doing sports specific excercise in sprinting? Although, the first method is beneficial in the sense that your ATP levels are not depleted, it doesn't help you increase your lactic acid threshhold. What are you thoughts? > > Kind Regards, > Aponte > West Palm Beach, FL, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 I agree with you in that endurance athletes need strength but not mass. In addition, I would say they need more muscular endurance rather than pure strength. Because of this, their strength training program should have higher repetitions rather than fewer. In addition, depending upon the sport, they may need some explosive training. I have found that in explosive training, athletes lose muscle mass while retaining strength and gaining more power or explosive power. For example, if you look at basketball and volleyball players, you will not find large calves. I hope this helps. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yessis, Ph.D President, Sports Training, Inc. www.dryessis.com PO Box 460429 Escondido, CA 92046 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " Bill Black " wrote: <<Much of the discussion on this forum is oriented towards gaining mass. However, athletes concerned with endurance sports seek to become stronger without gaining mass and often seek to reduce mass while gaining strength. This ends up being quite a challenge, especially for a well trained athlete who is already as lean as he/she optimally would/should be for maintaining health and performance in one's sport. The question: Suggestions for training modalities geared towards increasing strength without gaining mass?>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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