HIT for professional atheletes

[Guest guest]

Quote:

" This is a good point Tom. It's especially interesting how the HIT jedis'

literature reviews have consistently:

• ignored differences between experimental treatments in the same study

• failed to differentiate between trained and untrained subjects

• tried to attribute injuries to explosive training whenever possible

• bastardized the laws of motion (Dr. Siff posted many discussions

about this, "

Actually, this is a bad point. The exact same things occur by those

using eastern block training methods. I have yet to see ANY research

by either HIT advocates or periodization advocates that utilizes the

protocols of either one to any degree of accuracy in a comparison

study. Both sides are guilty of sandbagging study after study in

order to support their own views to sell more books, to increase

funding for special projects and to advance their own careers.

quote:

" HIT advocates keep chirping about there being no single study that definitively

proves explosive training is superior. "

This is true and for good reason. There is not a study that exists

that accurately compares the two, refer to the above paragraph.

quote:

" but it's funny how they don't

seem to get published in any peer reviewed journals. "

I know that this may come as a surprise to you but many HIT advocates

could care less what the self proclaimed " experts " feel is superior.

Also, I can tell that you have done little research to support your

own views as there does exist a rather large amount of research that

could support HIT methodology as well...and it has been published as

well.

I will once again issue the same challenge that I have consistently

issued and everyone of the self proclaimed " experts " here

conveniently dodge. IF, periodization methods are so superior,

please post a link to studies of the superiority of professional

athletes in various sports over the last few decades as these highly

touted " superior " training methods have been implemented. I could

care less what the vertical jump capability of a offensive lineman

is, that does not support our discussion. Our great co-moderator has

made pointed out that this could be due to various advances in

nutrition, selection and various other factors...if this is true then

the evidence should be overwhelming in your favour, if these supposed

advances are actually " advances " and not just new twists on old

news. If truly accurate means of study are applied then all these

variables should have been taken into account, if not, then it only

serves to show the extreme inaccuracy of the published research in

many of the supposed " professional " journals.

I have access to many of the sources you posted and the ones I read

over contain no data concerning a HIT program performed by

individuals with a working knowledge of HIT, nor do they contain any

information on HIT vs. periodization outcomes. Please in the future,

to support your views, do not post false sources to make it seem as

though your point is overwhelming. This is both unprofessional and

serves no purpose on the discussion at hand and actually serves to

make any future discussion impossible.

Mike Scarborough

Knoxville TN

[Guest guest]

To whom it may concern,

Why don't you look at a school like Penn St, and how

irregular there record has been, since they utilize

hit with their football team. If I can anonymously

quote a good strength, who without my posturing

thought HIT was garbage. You should go to

elitefitnesssystems.com board to see HIT get trashed.

It is discussions like these that knock down the

overall quality of supertraining. I don't know Mr.

Plisk, but have read many of his articles. The man

knows!!! Why don't we be constructive, like this site

was, instead of destructive.

Dave Brewer,L.Ac.

Strength Coach

Newport Beach, Cal.

[Guest guest]

:

I am not a HIT person by any means. We recently opened a new strength and

conditioning facility and the vast majority of the 23,000 sq ft in training

space is filled with multi-station platforms, where our athletes perform a

variety of Olympic-style exercises to open up every training session.

However, to suggest that Penn State has had an irregular record as a result

of performing HIT training is not a valid statement. First, while they have

struggled in recent years, for many years they were a dominating team with a

great winning percentage. There are other schools that employ the HIT

system and have been successful with that method. Looking at the flip side

of that, there are certainly schools that do not use a HIT philosophy that

have suffered through losing seasons. To evaluate winning and losing based

on what type of strength training regimen a team adheres to ignores all of

the other factors that contribute to the won-loss record. The most

efficient way to make your strength and conditioning program appear to be

highly effective is to make sure your football coaches do a great job of

recruiting.

With respect,

Hedrick, M.A., C.S.C.S.*D, Coach Practitioner

Head Strength and Conditioning Coach

U.S. Air Force Academy

Brewer wrote:

<<Why don't you look at a school like Penn St, and how irregular there record

has been, since they utilize hit with their football team. If I can

anonymously quote a good strength, who without my posturing thought HIT was

garbage. You should go to elitefitnesssystems.com board to see HIT get

trashed.>>

[Guest guest]

:

I am not a HIT person by any means. We recently opened a new strength and

conditioning facility and the vast majority of the 23,000 sq ft in training

space is filled with multi-station platforms, where our athletes perform a

variety of Olympic-style exercises to open up every training session.

However, to suggest that Penn State has had an irregular record as a result

of performing HIT training is not a valid statement. First, while they have

struggled in recent years, for many years they were a dominating team with a

great winning percentage. There are other schools that employ the HIT

system and have been successful with that method. Looking at the flip side

of that, there are certainly schools that do not use a HIT philosophy that

have suffered through losing seasons. To evaluate winning and losing based

on what type of strength training regimen a team adheres to ignores all of

the other factors that contribute to the won-loss record. The most

efficient way to make your strength and conditioning program appear to be

highly effective is to make sure your football coaches do a great job of

recruiting.

With respect,

Hedrick, M.A., C.S.C.S.*D, Coach Practitioner

Head Strength and Conditioning Coach

U.S. Air Force Academy

Brewer wrote:

<<Why don't you look at a school like Penn St, and how irregular there record

has been, since they utilize hit with their football team. If I can

anonymously quote a good strength, who without my posturing thought HIT was

garbage. You should go to elitefitnesssystems.com board to see HIT get

trashed.>>