Guest guest Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 , Do you have access to speech therapy? No language at age 2, for whatever reason or none, should be enough to get free Early Intervention services. She does sound like my daughter at that age, and since my past experience had been with classic autism, no smiles and no hugs, I wasn't sure about my smiling, laughing, cuddly daughter until we got her formally evaluated. She's talking now and making good progress, but it took years of Early Intervention followed by a special school with heaps of ABA. A child like your daughter has incredible potential, whether she's neurotypical or not. I admire your dedication to the diet, which I couldn't manage with my daughter (she lives on macaroni and cheese), but I recommend getting her speech therapy and ABA right away. Best of luck! Dawn From: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women [mailto:Autism_in_Girls_and_Women ] On Behalf Of ginger82099 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:26 AM To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women Subject: What as your daughter like at age 2? I know all our daughter's are different but I was just wondering what other girl's are like at this age. My daughter isn't talking yet which was my first red flag, doesn't point, wave goodbye, clap her hands(althought she used to clap)most of the day she likes to watch cartoons, mainly yo gabba gabba, she is always chewing on stuff,and likes to flip through books although most of the time she seems to be page turning. She does play with toys the right way sometimes but she does like to get a few toys put them in a spot and then she will move to another spot one by one, but she really doesn't do this as much as she used to. She smiles, laughes, likes to be hugged and kissed, eye contact is here or there. Sometimes I look at her and think she is just delayed and then other times like when she gets into the tub before I can take off her clothes, I think this isn't just a delay.I have been working with a biomedical doctor, and my daughter is being treated for yeast, is on supplements and of course the GFCGSF diet, so I am doing everything I can to help her but I just pray that she will start talking soon. She doesn't have any behavior issues but is a climber and a thrower. Just would love to hear what others girls are like. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 WOW at 2 she could be sweet and fun or horrid terrible temper tantrums for NO apparent reason sun would bug her, wind would bug her, water she screamed at, very picky on textures of food and clothing it was her way or the highway hated to be held, hated to have her hair brushed, didn't like socks or shoes, would rarely play with toys but had everything to try bought her a playhouse at 2 1/2 she refused to go in it and never did she had slides and swings rarely used them and if you tried she screamed prefered the stroller to walking finally learned a sippy cup right around 2 1/2 fully verbal by 9 months so that wasn't an issue, loved to draw esp. with markers, Elmo was her best friend and we watched his videos a lot tried swim lessons they went over like a lead brick toddler preschool/daycare was horrible but I had to work somedays she'd look at the other kids mostly she wouldn't. She would not feed herself she never pointed would just get what she wanted, she would not sleep often and would scream for what she wanted if you werent fast enough we started potty training around 2 1/2 didn't have true success til after 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Hi , My daughter also laughed, smiled, and liked to be hugged and kissed. But she has Asperger's and was very talkative. If you are concerned, get your daughter evaluated through the schools or by a private psychologist who specializes in children with developmental disorders. We were advised by a school psychologist to get a private evaluation if we could (insurance covers this) because, as she said, it would be much more thorough. I regret that we did not have her evaluated earlier so that she could have gotten earlier access to speech and OT. Good luck, > > I know all our daughter's are different but I was just wondering what other girl's are like at this age. My daughter isn't talking yet which was my first red flag, doesn't point, wave goodbye, clap her hands(althought she used to clap)most of the day she likes to watch cartoons, mainly yo gabba gabba, she is always chewing on stuff,and likes to flip through books although most of the time she seems to be page turning. She does play with toys the right way sometimes but she does like to get a few toys put them in a spot and then she will move to another spot one by one, but she really doesn't do this as much as she used to. She smiles, laughes, likes to be hugged and kissed, eye contact is here or there. Sometimes I look at her and think she is just delayed and then other times like when she gets into the tub before I can take off her clothes, I think this isn't just a delay.I have been working with a biomedical doctor, and my daughter is being treated for yeast, is on supplements and of course the GFCGSF diet, so I am doing everything I can to help her but I just pray that she will start talking soon. She doesn't have any behavior issues but is a climber and a thrower. Just would love to hear what others girls are like. > > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Hi , When my daughter was age 2, her main warning flag, like in the case of your daughter is that she didn't talk. She had had quite a few words (maybe 10) starting at age 1, but then she gradually lost some, but not all of them, really it was more like a stall. After age 3, they began to come back again. She used to point (we have this on video), but did stop that too. She was always very affectionate. She was diagnosed with ASD just before her third birthday. Aside from the chewing and climbing, our kids sound similar. Mine loved watching cartoons too. Presently she has just turned 14. She's in private school, doing age-level work. She has friends (not many). Mostly she's in private school because she was bullied in public school, and the huge classes (30 kids, in split grades) were too much for her. She's a lovely child who never makes trouble, so all the teachers' efforts tended to go to the other kids. She speaks very well, but presents as a younger child - maybe 11? She's interested in video games, fashion, jewelery, animals, and her plan is to move to Hawaii and become a veterinarian, or maybe a jewelery maker. We only did a brief trial of the GFCF diet (didn't do anything) and some vitamin supplements, all of which I dropped except for EFAs and Vit D, which I think everyone needs. I didn't see any negative changes when stopping the other supps, so I think that the positives we saw when she was younger were due to the natural maturation process and all the other work we were doing with her. If I were you, I would run immediately to a good speech therapist. I'd read the books " More than Words " and " It Takes Two to Talk " and I'd implement the hints they give there. I wouldn't spend my time on making her special foods - even though I think it's very important for all kids to eat healthy, I'd spend that time interacting with her one-on-one, building on her interests and encouraging that social nature. My two cents. > > I know all our daughter's are different but I was just wondering what other girl's are like at this age. My daughter isn't talking yet which was my first red flag, doesn't point, wave goodbye, clap her hands(althought she used to clap)most of the day she likes to watch cartoons, mainly yo gabba gabba, she is always chewing on stuff,and likes to flip through books although most of the time she seems to be page turning. She does play with toys the right way sometimes but she does like to get a few toys put them in a spot and then she will move to another spot one by one, but she really doesn't do this as much as she used to. She smiles, laughes, likes to be hugged and kissed, eye contact is here or there. Sometimes I look at her and think she is just delayed and then other times like when she gets into the tub before I can take off her clothes, I think this isn't just a delay.I have been working with a biomedical doctor, and my daughter is being treated for yeast, is on supplements and of course the GFCGSF diet, so I am doing everything I can to help her but I just pray that she will start talking soon. She doesn't have any behavior issues but is a climber and a thrower. Just would love to hear what others girls are like. > > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 My daughter is 18 & verbal enough to get her basic needs met. She still can't carry on a conversation or answer questions appropriately. She can answer " fun " to how was the blood draw. At two, she was affectionate & lived in her own world. She would turn her head if someone would sing a nursery song across the room but would act deaf to anything else. Even at 4 mos, she would be fixated watching the kids videos with her older sister. She didn't begin to make sounds til she was 4 yrs old, like " k " for drink, " tuh " for eat, etc. Good for you that you've already started early intervention. Special diets don't help all kids but for some it's a dramatic difference. For my daughter, it was when she had an infraction, was when her behavior changed to being giggly or belligerent, and we didn't notice any changes while she was on it. We're still on it & she self monitors, so we're lucky there. Marie > I know all our daughter's are different but I was just wondering what other > girl's are like at this age. My daughter isn't talking yet which was my > first red flag, doesn't point, wave goodbye, clap her hands(althought she > used to clap)most of the day she likes to watch cartoons, mainly yo gabba > gabba, she is always chewing on stuff,and likes to flip through books > although most of the time she seems to be page turning. She does play with > toys the right way sometimes but she does like to get a few toys put them in > a spot and then she will move to another spot one by one, but she really > doesn't do this as much as she used to. She smiles, laughes, likes to be > hugged and kissed, eye contact is here or there. Sometimes I look at her and > think she is just delayed and then other times like when she gets into the > tub before I can take off her clothes, I think this isn't just a > delay.I have been working with a biomedical doctor, and my daughter is being > treated for yeast, is on supplements and of course the GFCGSF diet, so I am > doing everything I can to help her but I just pray that she will start > talking soon. She doesn't have any behavior issues but is a climber and a > thrower. Just would love to hear what others girls are like. > > > Thanks, > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > The Power Pumper makes physical therapy fun! Plus, funding sources are > available to provide a free Power Pumper to anyone who needs it. > ------------------------ > http://www.powerpumper.com/friends/jrox.php?uid=bridalsh > ------------------------ > Autism_in_Girls_and_Women-subscribe > ------------------------ > Autism_in_Girls_and_Women-unsubscribe@...! Groups Links > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 my daughter who is 16 now. At 2, have to think back, never crawled, slid on her bottom, when she walked, it was tippy toes, very quiet, i remember calling her my little angel, as she reminded me of one. she wasn't too interested in other kids other than her older sister. put her into pre-school, didn't play alot with others, did her own thing, didn't like change, when they would do something different. Loved to paint and draw and still does to this day. she does speak, quite well, but cannot hold an everyday conversation, it must be straight to the point with instructions. didn't like being in groups of people, noisy kids etc, but as years have gone on, she deals with it now. Cheryl S [chez] To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women From: toyboxjunkie@... Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:45:53 -0500 Subject: Re: What as your daughter like at age 2? WOW at 2 she could be sweet and fun or horrid terrible temper tantrums for NO apparent reason sun would bug her, wind would bug her, water she screamed at, very picky on textures of food and clothing it was her way or the highway hated to be held, hated to have her hair brushed, didn't like socks or shoes, would rarely play with toys but had everything to try bought her a playhouse at 2 1/2 she refused to go in it and never did she had slides and swings rarely used them and if you tried she screamed prefered the stroller to walking finally learned a sippy cup right around 2 1/2 fully verbal by 9 months so that wasn't an issue, loved to draw esp. with markers, Elmo was her best friend and we watched his videos a lot tried swim lessons they went over like a lead brick toddler preschool/daycare was horrible but I had to work somedays she'd look at the other kids mostly she wouldn't. She would not feed herself she never pointed would just get what she wanted, she would not sleep often and would scream for what she wanted if you werent fast enough we started potty training around 2 1/2 didn't have true success til after 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 oh forgot to say....loved her videos of kiddy shows and still does even at 16, books she reads are kiddy books too. Its not that she cannot read, she can, but the comprehension isn't there. Cheryl S [chez] To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women From: writeshawn@... Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:40:20 +0000 Subject: Re: What as your daughter like at age 2? Hi , My daughter also laughed, smiled, and liked to be hugged and kissed. But she has Asperger's and was very talkative. If you are concerned, get your daughter evaluated through the schools or by a private psychologist who specializes in children with developmental disorders. We were advised by a school psychologist to get a private evaluation if we could (insurance covers this) because, as she said, it would be much more thorough. I regret that we did not have her evaluated earlier so that she could have gotten earlier access to speech and OT. Good luck, > > I know all our daughter's are different but I was just wondering what other girl's are like at this age. My daughter isn't talking yet which was my first red flag, doesn't point, wave goodbye, clap her hands(althought she used to clap)most of the day she likes to watch cartoons, mainly yo gabba gabba, she is always chewing on stuff,and likes to flip through books although most of the time she seems to be page turning. She does play with toys the right way sometimes but she does like to get a few toys put them in a spot and then she will move to another spot one by one, but she really doesn't do this as much as she used to. She smiles, laughes, likes to be hugged and kissed, eye contact is here or there. Sometimes I look at her and think she is just delayed and then other times like when she gets into the tub before I can take off her clothes, I think this isn't just a delay.I have been working with a biomedical doctor, and my daughter is being treated for yeast, is on supplements and of course the GFCGSF diet, so I am doing everything I can to help her but I just pray that she will start talking soon. She doesn't have any behavior issues but is a climber and a thrower. Just would love to hear what others girls are like. > > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Dawn, Yes, she is in speech, ot and dt once a week through EI in fact we started therapy 6 months ago and are coming up for a eval and I am hoping because she hasn't made much progress with speech she can get more services. As far as the diet it's been three months now and not only is she on the diet but the whole family is because she will try to eat whatever you have but honestly I can't see that it's really done anything but drive everyone crazy, I am goung to stick with it for a full year and then make a choice either way. I just read that it is said that you should keep your child on the diet until early teens. That seems crazy to me. I am glad to hear that your daughter talking, I think thats what I worry about the most. > > , > > > > Do you have access to speech therapy? No language at age 2, for whatever > reason or none, should be enough to get free Early Intervention services. > She does sound like my daughter at that age, and since my past experience > had been with classic autism, no smiles and no hugs, I wasn't sure about my > smiling, laughing, cuddly daughter until we got her formally evaluated. > She's talking now and making good progress, but it took years of Early > Intervention followed by a special school with heaps of ABA. > > > > A child like your daughter has incredible potential, whether she's > neurotypical or not. I admire your dedication to the diet, which I couldn't > manage with my daughter (she lives on macaroni and cheese), but I recommend > getting her speech therapy and ABA right away. > > > > Best of luck! > > Dawn > > > > From: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women > [mailto:Autism_in_Girls_and_Women ] On Behalf Of ginger82099 > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:26 AM > To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women > Subject: What as your daughter like at age 2? > > > > > > I know all our daughter's are different but I was just wondering what other > girl's are like at this age. My daughter isn't talking yet which was my > first red flag, doesn't point, wave goodbye, clap her hands(althought she > used to clap)most of the day she likes to watch cartoons, mainly yo gabba > gabba, she is always chewing on stuff,and likes to flip through books > although most of the time she seems to be page turning. She does play with > toys the right way sometimes but she does like to get a few toys put them in > a spot and then she will move to another spot one by one, but she really > doesn't do this as much as she used to. She smiles, laughes, likes to be > hugged and kissed, eye contact is here or there. Sometimes I look at her and > think she is just delayed and then other times like when she gets into the > tub before I can take off her clothes, I think this isn't just a > delay.I have been working with a biomedical doctor, and my daughter is being > treated for yeast, is on supplements and of course the GFCGSF diet, so I am > doing everything I can to help her but I just pray that she will start > talking soon. She doesn't have any behavior issues but is a climber and a > thrower. Just would love to hear what others girls are like. > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Thanks for the reply , It's crazy because in many ways she does have Asperger's but then again she doesn't talk so that rules that out.She was evalated by a EI developmental doctor at 21 months and was ds with global developmental delays, at that time I was told " I am not going to tell you she has Autism but I am not going to tell you she doesn't either " I was told to start therapy and we did, she gets 1 hr of speech, ot and DT a week which I don't think is enough. Every 6 months EI will reeval and she gets her's on Dec 3rd so I am hoping she can get some more therapy.I just wanted to see what other's girls are like because Autism seems to touch so many more boys then girls. Thanks for your reply, > > > > I know all our daughter's are different but I was just wondering what other girl's are like at this age. My daughter isn't talking yet which was my first red flag, doesn't point, wave goodbye, clap her hands(althought she used to clap)most of the day she likes to watch cartoons, mainly yo gabba gabba, she is always chewing on stuff,and likes to flip through books although most of the time she seems to be page turning. She does play with toys the right way sometimes but she does like to get a few toys put them in a spot and then she will move to another spot one by one, but she really doesn't do this as much as she used to. She smiles, laughes, likes to be hugged and kissed, eye contact is here or there. Sometimes I look at her and think she is just delayed and then other times like when she gets into the tub before I can take off her clothes, I think this isn't just a delay.I have been working with a biomedical doctor, and my daughter is being treated for yeast, is on supplements and of course the GFCGSF diet, so I am doing everything I can to help her but I just pray that she will start talking soon. She doesn't have any behavior issues but is a climber and a thrower. Just would love to hear what others girls are like. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 , Thank you for the reply and I love that you gave me your two cents My daughter had about 4 words at the age of 14 months and then slowly stopped using them or making any noise/sounds for about 8 months now she is starting to babble like she is 12 monhs again it's so weird. Right before she was two I started working with a biomedical doctor and it's been crazy since, we are doing everything that she said to and we are seeing change but who knows if they are related at all. I give her about 20 different supplements and I can't tell you how many times I just say to myself that enough is enough and I want to stop the whole biomedical thing. I look at her and just don't know what to do, my heart hurts daily that she can't talk, point or commucate in anyway and she can't even follow a simple request.I just don't want to fail her and that's why we did the biomedical thing. I get kisses and hugs everyday so even though she can't talk, I know she loves me and you would think that would be enough..but it's not. Thanks for listening, > > > > I know all our daughter's are different but I was just wondering what other girl's are like at this age. My daughter isn't talking yet which was my first red flag, doesn't point, wave goodbye, clap her hands(althought she used to clap)most of the day she likes to watch cartoons, mainly yo gabba gabba, she is always chewing on stuff,and likes to flip through books although most of the time she seems to be page turning. She does play with toys the right way sometimes but she does like to get a few toys put them in a spot and then she will move to another spot one by one, but she really doesn't do this as much as she used to. She smiles, laughes, likes to be hugged and kissed, eye contact is here or there. Sometimes I look at her and think she is just delayed and then other times like when she gets into the tub before I can take off her clothes, I think this isn't just a delay.I have been working with a biomedical doctor, and my daughter is being treated for yeast, is on supplements and of course the GFCGSF diet, so I am doing everything I can to help her but I just pray that she will start talking soon. She doesn't have any behavior issues but is a climber and a thrower. Just would love to hear what others girls are like. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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