self intro. Liz, Millbrook, NY

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Hello. My name is Liz. My e-mail address is tonelwinfarm@.... I am from Millbrook, NY. Dutchess County. After 32 years of milking a whole herd of Holstein cows in a 44 cow stanchion barn, I decided to sell my cows. For several years I have wanted to be a more widespread raw dairy supplier, but the two times I inquired through NYS Ag. and Markets for certification, it seemed way too prohibitive. Now, with just two cows (today), and several customers, the idea is much more reasonable. First of all, it is my understanding that I can sell up to 25 gallons of raw milk, per day, from the farm, without any certification. For now, that is plenty. None-the-less, the folks that want to scare me, do a good job, and, I don't have any experience handling small quantities -NOW how do I get it from cow to consumer? So, I am here for comraderie, help, info., and support - and hope I can offer a little something in return!!!

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Hi Liz

Welcome to the list. I am a small 3 cows grade A raw dairy in Wa. Are you using your pipeline system for your two cows? I use bucket milkers and find this to be very satisfactory. I have a bucket milker for each of my cows. I like this because it gives me control of the milk from each cow. I also only bottle one cow per jug. I made myself a very handy jug holder with a ring that holds my milk filter. I just put a jug on the stand and the milk filter sits in the ring over the jug and holds everything in place. Then I just pour the milk, cap and cool. I am cooling my milk in an ice water bath to pull the heat off and then refrigerate. I use the plastic milk jugs just like what milk come in at the store. I found a close supplier that give me 48 jugs for just over 25 dollars, caps are a nickel a piece. I have my labels printed as it is cheaper than what I could do. It must be a big change for you to go from a large dairy to two cows.

Chris

Hello. My name is Liz. My e-mail address is tonelwinfarmoptonline (DOT) net. I am from Millbrook, NY. Dutchess County. After 32 years of milking a whole herd of Holstein cows in a 44 cow stanchion barn, I decided to sell my cows. For several years I have wanted to be a more widespread raw dairy supplier, but the two times I inquired through NYS Ag. and Markets for certification, it seemed way too prohibitive. Now, with just two cows (today), and several customers, the idea is much more reasonable. First of all, it is my understanding that I can sell up to 25 gallons of raw milk, per day, from the farm, without any certification. For now, that is plenty. None-the-less, the folks that want to scare me, do a good job, and, I don't have any experience handling small quantities -NOW how do I get it from cow to consumer? So, I am here for comraderie, help, info., and support - and hope I can offer a little something in return!!!

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Hey chris:Care to email me the suppliers name? We are looking for another supplier of milk jugs.  Hi LizWelcome to the list.  I am a small 3 cows grade A raw dairy in Wa.  Are you using your pipeline system for your two cows?  I use bucket milkers and find this to be very satisfactory.  I have a bucket milker for each of my cows.  I like this because it gives me control of the milk from each cow.  I also only bottle one cow per jug.  I made myself a very handy jug holder with a ring that holds my milk filter.  I just put a jug on the stand and the milk filter sits in the ring over the jug and holds everything in place.  Then I just pour the milk, cap and cool.  I am cooling my milk in an ice water bath to pull the heat off and then refrigerate.  I use the plastic milk jugs just like what milk come in at the store.  I found a close supplier that give me 48 jugs for just over 25 dollars, caps are a nickel a piece.  I have my labels printed as it is cheaper than what I could do.  It must be a big change for you to go from a large dairy to two cows.ChrisHello. My name is Liz. My e-mail address is tonelwinfarmoptonline (DOT) net. I am from Millbrook, NY. Dutchess County. After 32 years of milking a whole herd of Holstein cows in a 44 cow stanchion barn, I decided to sell my cows. For several years I have wanted to be a more widespread raw dairy supplier, but the two times I inquired through NYS Ag. and Markets for certification, it seemed way too prohibitive. Now, with just two cows (today), and several customers, the idea is much more reasonable. First of all, it is my understanding that I can sell up to 25 gallons of raw milk, per day,  from the farm, without any certification. For now, that is plenty. None-the-less, the folks that want to scare me, do a good job, and, I don't have any experience handling small quantities -NOW how do I get it from cow to consumer? So, I am here for comraderie, help, info., and support - and hope I can offer a little something in return!!! ____________________________________________________________ Click for travel nursing jobs and see the world.

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HIiz- I am Liz from Niagara County, teacupfarm.com

It is not legal to sell 25 gallons a day with no permit.

You need a permit to sell even one gallon a day.

I sell about 10-20 gallons a wk. building my custermer

base up over the last 2 years.

Contact NYS it really is not that hard to get a permit they

help me step by step.

Liz

To: RawDairy From: tonelwinfarm@...Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 03:21:16 +0000Subject: self intro. Liz, Millbrook, NY

Hello. My name is Liz. My e-mail address is tonelwinfarmoptonline (DOT) net. I am from Millbrook, NY. Dutchess County. After 32 years of milking a whole herd of Holstein cows in a 44 cow stanchion barn, I decided to sell my cows. For several years I have wanted to be a more widespread raw dairy supplier, but the two times I inquired through NYS Ag. and Markets for certification, it seemed way too prohibitive. Now, with just two cows (today), and several customers, the idea is much more reasonable. First of all, it is my understanding that I can sell up to 25 gallons of raw milk, per day, from the farm, without any certification. For now, that is plenty. None-the-less, the folks that want to scare me, do a good job, and, I don't have any experience handling small quantities -NOW how do I get it from cow to consumer? So, I am here for comraderie, help, info., and support - and hope I can offer a little something in return!!!

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Sure, I am using Tricorbraun www.tricorbraun.com but they are here in Wa. What you might do is check Protola which is the product itself and see if they have a distributor where you are. They ship to many states.

HTH

Chris

Hey chris:

Care to email me the suppliers name? We are looking for another supplier of milk jugs.

Hi Liz

Welcome to the list. I am a small 3 cows grade A raw dairy in Wa. Are you using your pipeline system for your two cows? I use bucket milkers and find this to be very satisfactory. I have a bucket milker for each of my cows. I like this because it gives me control of the milk from each cow. I also only bottle one cow per jug. I made myself a very handy jug holder with a ring that holds my milk filter. I just put a jug on the stand and the milk filter sits in the ring over the jug and holds everything in place. Then I just pour the milk, cap and cool. I am cooling my milk in an ice water bath to pull the heat off and then refrigerate. I use the plastic milk jugs just like what milk come in at the store. I found a close supplier that give me 48 jugs for just over 25 dollars, caps are a nickel a piece. I have my labels printed as it is cheaper than what I could do. It must be a big change for you to go from a large dairy to two cows.

Chris

Hello. My name is Liz. My e-mail address is tonelwinfarmoptonline (DOT) net. I am from Millbrook, NY. Dutchess County. After 32 years of milking a whole herd of Holstein cows in a 44 cow stanchion barn, I decided to sell my cows. For several years I have wanted to be a more widespread raw dairy supplier, but the two times I inquired through NYS Ag. and Markets for certification, it seemed way too prohibitive. Now, with just two cows (today), and several customers, the idea is much more reasonable. First of all, it is my understanding that I can sell up to 25 gallons of raw milk, per day, from the farm, without any certification. For now, that is plenty. None-the-less, the folks that want to scare me, do a good job, and, I don't have any experience handling small quantities -NOW how do I get it from cow to consumer? So, I am here for comraderie, help, info., and support - and hope I can offer a little something in return!!!

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Hi Chris. Thank you. That is just the kind of info I need. No, I am

not using the pipline - therefore, I wasn't sure how necessary the

filter was...I guess it is!! How long do you keep the milk in the ice

water bath? How many gallons do you produce per day? The procedure

sounds tretty time consuming? Is it? Is it worth it. Do you sell

other products?

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> Hi Liz

> Welcome to the list. I am a small 3 cows grade A raw dairy in

Wa. Are you using your pipeline system for your two cows? I use

bucket milkers and find this to be very satisfactory. I have a

bucket milker for each of my cows. I like this because it gives me

control of the milk from each cow. I also only bottle one cow per

jug. I made myself a very handy jug holder with a ring that holds my

milk filter. I just put a jug on the stand and the milk filter sits

in the ring over the jug and holds everything in place. Then I just

pour the milk, cap and cool. I am cooling my milk in an ice water

bath to pull the heat off and then refrigerate. I use the plastic

milk jugs just like what milk come in at the store. I found a close

supplier that give me 48 jugs for just over 25 dollars, caps are a

nickel a piece. I have my labels printed as it is cheaper than what

I could do. It must be a big change for you to go from a large dairy

to two cows.

> Chris

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> Hello. My name is Liz. My e-mail address is tonelwinfarm@... I am

from Millbrook, NY. Dutchess County. After 32 years of milking a

whole herd of Holstein cows in a 44 cow stanchion barn, I decided to

sell my cows. For several years I have wanted to be a more widespread

raw dairy supplier, but the two times I inquired through NYS Ag. and

Markets for certification, it seemed way too prohibitive. Now, with

just two cows (today), and several customers, the idea is much more

reasonable. First of all, it is my understanding that I can sell up

to 25 gallons of raw milk, per day, from the farm, without any

certification. For now, that is plenty. None-the-less, the folks that

want to scare me, do a good job, and, I don't have any experience

handling small quantities -NOW how do I get it from cow to consumer?

So, I am here for comraderie, help, info., and support - and hope I

can offer a little something in return!!!

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>S257

4. Farmers (including individuals and partnerships but not

corporations) selling not more than 100 quarts daily average of milk,

or any amount of milk pasturized on the farm where produced, to

customers coming there for it shall be exempt from the licens

requirements provided by this article.

From NYS Ag and Markets Circular 958

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THat is wrong a old law and the New Regulation over see that OLD law.

You must hold a Permit to sell raw milk.

Beleive me I tried to use that law.

Liz

To: RawDairy From: tonelwinfarm@...Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:14:34 +0000Subject: Re: self intro. Liz, Millbrook, NY

>S2574. Farmers (including individuals and partnerships but not corporations) selling not more than 100 quarts daily average of milk, or any amount of milk pasturized on the farm where produced, to customers coming there for it shall be exempt from the licens requirements provided by this article.From NYS Ag and Markets Circular 958> > > __________________________________________________________> Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009> Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. See how it works.

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In Wa. we can only sell raw milk. Raw milk cheeses have the be aged at least 60 days and no soft cheeses.

You can pasteurize and do soft cheese but I just teach my customers how to make soft cheese themselves.

It takes me an hour and a half to milk three cows am and pm. That is putting the buckets together (they take 30 min. to wash but I don't do that at milking time) milking the cows and pouring up the milk and dating it and in the cooler and rinsing the buckets. That is about all I have time for in the am and I come back and wash later. I am milking three Brown Swiss and getting about 16 gallons a day. One is a 9 yr. old, one is a 4 yr old second lactation and one is a first freshener. I have to have my milk cool to below 40 degrees in two hours but in the ice bath they get to that in about 45 min. I shake them once just to mix the milk. Then I move them to the fridge which is held at 35 degrees.

I built all my buckets from parts off ebay except for my pulsates which I bought new from my dairy supplier. I replace my rubber and hoses with each location. I sell my milk for 6.00 a gallon and I am now at a point where all my milk is going out each day. I go once a month to get jugs, a two and half hour round trip. It costs me about 1600 a month to make ends meet so I am now making a little money. My business is growing and I have a heifer in the barn and am thinking of getting another milker. I would like to milk four cows a day but right now I don't have the customers for that volume but I am sure I will. I have grown a lot in the last year and have only been grade A for a year and a half. I have been milking since 1993 but only two cows. I have three retail stores selling my milk now and I think that will grow too. I have tried not to grow to fast as I don't want to burn myself out. I don't do any advertising other than the Real Milk web site and word of mouth. I guess that is about it. If you can think of anything else you would like to know just ask.

Chris

Hi Chris. Thank you. That is just the kind of info I need. No, I am not using the pipline - therefore, I wasn't sure how necessary the filter was...I guess it is!! How long do you keep the milk in the ice water bath? How many gallons do you produce per day? The procedure sounds tretty time consuming? Is it? Is it worth it. Do you sell other products?>> >

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