Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Yeah, and how many died from alcohol use or tobacco? Never, never touch those ones do they? Maybe we should let them tax raw milk then they would get a cut and it would all be better? Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@..."The person who wants something will find a way. The person who doesn’t will find an excuse." the bleat goes on below is another textbook example of what propaganda looks like ... giving the appearance of being even-handed, the give-away is the sentence "It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk. " How kind of Big Brother to let his serfs in Wisconsin use their own property!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Consumer demand for raw milk up Health officials, advocates at odds over its risk factor NEW HOLSTEIN, Wis. - Despite potentially serious health risks, demand for unpasteurized, or raw, milk is growing among consumers concerned about chemicals, hormones and drugs. With prices topping $5 per gallon, more dairies are selling raw milk - and finding themselves at odds with public health officials. The federal government and a majority of states prohibit sales of raw milk to the public, claiming it is responsible for hundreds of people sickened in the past decade with salmonella, E. coli, Listeria monocytogenes and other bacteria. In Tennessee, those who purchase it and sell it are breaking the law and could face a misdemeanor charge and a fine of up to $500. Dairy farmers caught selling unpasteurized milk could have their permits revoked. Legislative proposals to legalize it have repeatedly failed. "Raw milk continues to cause outbreaks year after year," said Sheehan, who oversees plant and dairy food products for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. "It is a concern for the FDA." Advocates dispute reports from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other health agencies. They claim raw milk relieves allergies, asthma, autism and digestive disorders. "Raw milk is like a magic food for children," said Sally Fallon, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation, a nonprofit that advocates consumption of whole, natural foods. Pasteurization should not affect milk's taste, texture or nutritional content, aside from a slight loss of vitamin C, said Bradley, a University of Wisconsin-Madison professor who has worked in food science for 44 years. However, the process can destroy proteins and enzymes that help the body absorb vitamins and digest lactose, said Babb, a registered dietitian who teaches at Bastyr University in Kenmore, Wash., which promotes natural and alternative medicines. High heat also can damage water-soluble B vitamins, she said. People looking for raw milk began showing up at Kay and Wayne Craig's organic farm in eastern Wisconsin five or six years ago. Many had digestive issues and other health problems. "They're sick of being sick, and they're sick of the meds and the side effects, and so they're looking for options," said Wayne Craig, 50. The couple had about 100 customers by the time they opened their store with organic products three years ago. Now they have about 800. No government agency or group tracks raw milk sales nationwide. But in Washington state, the number of dairies selling raw milk to the public grew from six to 22 in the past two years. In Massachusetts, the number has more than doubled to 24 in the past five years even as the overall number of dairies has declined. Wisconsin has banned the sale and distribution of unpasteurized milk, although it allows "incidental sales" by farmers. It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk. That prompted Wisconsin farmers, like those in a number of other states, to make a variety of arrangements to sell raw milk legally. Farmers have sold shares in their cows, herds and milk licenses. Jane Ratajczak, 43, of Kiel, started buying raw milk from the Craigs after reading a book about natural cures. She now drinks four or five glasses a day and said she has noticed no ill effects. "To me, it's refreshing," she said. "Just grab a glass of milk." The FDA, however, says "raw milk, no matter how carefully produced, may be unsafe." More than 1,000 people, including two who died, got sick from raw milk or cheese made from raw milk from 1998 to May 2005, according to the most recent count from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. M.L. JOHNSON, Associated Press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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X-UNTD-UBE:-1 Yeah, and how many died from alcohol use or tobacco? Never, never touch those ones do they? Maybe we should let them tax raw milk then they would get a cut and it would all be better? Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@..."The person who wants something will find a way. The person who doesn’t will find an excuse." the bleat goes on below is another textbook example of what propaganda looks like ... giving the appearance of being even-handed, the give-away is the sentence "It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk. " How kind of Big Brother to let his serfs in Wisconsin use their own property!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Consumer demand for raw milk up Health officials, advocates at odds over its risk factor NEW HOLSTEIN, Wis. - Despite potentially serious health risks, demand for unpasteurized, or raw, milk is growing among consumers concerned about chemicals, hormones and drugs. With prices topping $5 per gallon, more dairies are selling raw milk - and finding themselves at odds with public health officials. The federal government and a majority of states prohibit sales of raw milk to the public, claiming it is responsible for hundreds of people sickened in the past decade with salmonella, E. coli, Listeria monocytogenes and other bacteria. In Tennessee, those who purchase it and sell it are breaking the law and could face a misdemeanor charge and a fine of up to $500. Dairy farmers caught selling unpasteurized milk could have their permits revoked. Legislative proposals to legalize it have repeatedly failed. "Raw milk continues to cause outbreaks year after year," said Sheehan, who oversees plant and dairy food products for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. "It is a concern for the FDA." Advocates dispute reports from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other health agencies. They claim raw milk relieves allergies, asthma, autism and digestive disorders. "Raw milk is like a magic food for children," said Sally Fallon, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation, a nonprofit that advocates consumption of whole, natural foods. Pasteurization should not affect milk's taste, texture or nutritional content, aside from a slight loss of vitamin C, said Bradley, a University of Wisconsin-Madison professor who has worked in food science for 44 years. However, the process can destroy proteins and enzymes that help the body absorb vitamins and digest lactose, said Babb, a registered dietitian who teaches at Bastyr University in Kenmore, Wash., which promotes natural and alternative medicines. High heat also can damage water-soluble B vitamins, she said. People looking for raw milk began showing up at Kay and Wayne Craig's organic farm in eastern Wisconsin five or six years ago. Many had digestive issues and other health problems. "They're sick of being sick, and they're sick of the meds and the side effects, and so they're looking for options," said Wayne Craig, 50. The couple had about 100 customers by the time they opened their store with organic products three years ago. Now they have about 800. No government agency or group tracks raw milk sales nationwide. But in Washington state, the number of dairies selling raw milk to the public grew from six to 22 in the past two years. In Massachusetts, the number has more than doubled to 24 in the past five years even as the overall number of dairies has declined. Wisconsin has banned the sale and distribution of unpasteurized milk, although it allows "incidental sales" by farmers. It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk. That prompted Wisconsin farmers, like those in a number of other states, to make a variety of arrangements to sell raw milk legally. Farmers have sold shares in their cows, herds and milk licenses. Jane Ratajczak, 43, of Kiel, started buying raw milk from the Craigs after reading a book about natural cures. She now drinks four or five glasses a day and said she has noticed no ill effects. "To me, it's refreshing," she said. "Just grab a glass of milk." The FDA, however, says "raw milk, no matter how carefully produced, may be unsafe." More than 1,000 people, including two who died, got sick from raw milk or cheese made from raw milk from 1998 to May 2005, according to the most recent count from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. M.L. JOHNSON, Associated Press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 or children who have ruined their livelong health and suffer so much from the literally poisonous big dairy stuff. YES! And How Many People have Died because they cant Digest DEAD MILK????????????????????????????????????????????? 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Never, never touch those ones do they? Maybe we should let them tax raw milk then they would get a cut and it would all be better? Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@..."The person who wants something will find a way. The person who doesn’t will find an excuse." the bleat goes on below is another textbook example of what propaganda looks like ... giving the appearance of being even-handed, the give-away is the sentence "It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk. "How kind of Big Brother to let his serfs in Wisconsin use their own property!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Consumer demand for raw milk up Health officials, advocates at odds over its risk factor NEW HOLSTEIN, Wis. - Despite potentially serious health risks, demand for unpasteurized, or raw, milk is growing among consumers concerned about chemicals, hormones and drugs.With prices topping $5 per gallon, more dairies are selling raw milk - and finding themselves at odds with public health officials.The federal government and a majority of states prohibit sales of raw milk to the public, claiming it is responsible for hundreds of people sickened in the past decade with salmonella, E. coli, Listeria monocytogenes and other bacteria. In Tennessee, those who purchase it and sell it are breaking the law and could face a misdemeanor charge and a fine of up to $500. Dairy farmers caught selling unpasteurized milk could have their permits revoked. Legislative proposals to legalize it have repeatedly failed."Raw milk continues to cause outbreaks year after year," said Sheehan, who oversees plant and dairy food products for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. "It is a concern for the FDA." Advocates dispute reports from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other health agencies. They claim raw milk relieves allergies, asthma, autism and digestive disorders."Raw milk is like a magic food for children," said Sally Fallon, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation, a nonprofit that advocates consumption of whole, natural foods.Pasteurization should not affect milk's taste, texture or nutritional content, aside from a slight loss of vitamin C, said Bradley, a University of Wisconsin-Madison professor who has worked in food science for 44 years.However, the process can destroy proteins and enzymes that help the body absorb vitamins and digest lactose, said Babb, a registered dietitian who teaches at Bastyr University in Kenmore, Wash., which promotes natural and alternative medicines. High heat also can damage water-soluble B vitamins, she said.People looking for raw milk began showing up at Kay and Wayne Craig's organic farm in eastern Wisconsin five or six years ago. Many had digestive issues and other health problems."They're sick of being sick, and they're sick of the meds and the side effects, and so they're looking for options," said Wayne Craig, 50.The couple had about 100 customers by the time they opened their store with organic products three years ago. Now they have about 800.No government agency or group tracks raw milk sales nationwide. But in Washington state, the number of dairies selling raw milk to the public grew from six to 22 in the past two years. In Massachusetts, the number has more than doubled to 24 in the past five years even as the overall number of dairies has declined.Wisconsin has banned the sale and distribution of unpasteurized milk, although it allows "incidental sales" by farmers. It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk.That prompted Wisconsin farmers, like those in a number of other states, to make a variety of arrangements to sell raw milk legally. Farmers have sold shares in their cows, herds and milk licenses.Jane Ratajczak, 43, of Kiel, started buying raw milk from the Craigs after reading a book about natural cures. She now drinks four or five glasses a day and said she has noticed no ill effects."To me, it's refreshing," she said. "Just grab a glass of milk." The FDA, however, says "raw milk, no matter how carefully produced, may be unsafe." More than 1,000 people, including two who died, got sick from raw milk or cheese made from raw milk from 1998 to May 2005, according to the most recent count from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.M.L. JOHNSON, Associated Press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I agree with that Also! So much Badness going on in name of Greed and Im saying that as a Conservative bring back the Small Local farms or we will all go extict maybe thats the Plan of those in power! This Message Sent by Kern Please note: message attached Return-Path: <sentto-10960943-36316-1210876079-doubletrack=netzero.net@...\ om> Received: from mx04.dca.untd.com (mx04.dca.untd.com [10.171.44.34]) by maildeliver03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEC3AFUARTJ752 for (sender <sentto-10960943-36316-1210876079-doubletrack=netzero.net@...\ om>); Thu, 15 May 2008 11:28:02 -0700 (PST) Received: from n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [66.163.168.155]) by mx04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABEC3AFTAJZZDTS for (sender <sentto-10960943-36316-1210876079-doubletrack=netzero.net@...\ om>); Thu, 15 May 2008 11:28:01 -0700 (PST) Comment: DomainKeys? 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X-UNTD-UBE:-1 or children who have ruined their livelong health and suffer so much from the literally poisonous big dairy stuff. On May 15, 2008, at 6:17 PM, doubletracknetzero (DOT) net wrote: YES! And How Many People have Died because they cant Digest DEAD MILK????????????????????????????????????????????? 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Never, never touch those ones do they? Maybe we should let them tax raw milk then they would get a cut and it would all be better? Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@..."The person who wants something will find a way. The person who doesn’t will find an excuse." the bleat goes on below is another textbook example of what propaganda looks like ... giving the appearance of being even-handed, the give-away is the sentence "It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk. "How kind of Big Brother to let his serfs in Wisconsin use their own property!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Consumer demand for raw milk up Health officials, advocates at odds over its risk factor NEW HOLSTEIN, Wis. - Despite potentially serious health risks, demand for unpasteurized, or raw, milk is growing among consumers concerned about chemicals, hormones and drugs.With prices topping $5 per gallon, more dairies are selling raw milk - and finding themselves at odds with public health officials.The federal government and a majority of states prohibit sales of raw milk to the public, claiming it is responsible for hundreds of people sickened in the past decade with salmonella, E. coli, Listeria monocytogenes and other bacteria. In Tennessee, those who purchase it and sell it are breaking the law and could face a misdemeanor charge and a fine of up to $500. Dairy farmers caught selling unpasteurized milk could have their permits revoked. Legislative proposals to legalize it have repeatedly failed."Raw milk continues to cause outbreaks year after year," said Sheehan, who oversees plant and dairy food products for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. "It is a concern for the FDA." Advocates dispute reports from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other health agencies. They claim raw milk relieves allergies, asthma, autism and digestive disorders."Raw milk is like a magic food for children," said Sally Fallon, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation, a nonprofit that advocates consumption of whole, natural foods.Pasteurization should not affect milk's taste, texture or nutritional content, aside from a slight loss of vitamin C, said Bradley, a University of Wisconsin-Madison professor who has worked in food science for 44 years.However, the process can destroy proteins and enzymes that help the body absorb vitamins and digest lactose, said Babb, a registered dietitian who teaches at Bastyr University in Kenmore, Wash., which promotes natural and alternative medicines. High heat also can damage water-soluble B vitamins, she said.People looking for raw milk began showing up at Kay and Wayne Craig's organic farm in eastern Wisconsin five or six years ago. Many had digestive issues and other health problems."They're sick of being sick, and they're sick of the meds and the side effects, and so they're looking for options," said Wayne Craig, 50.The couple had about 100 customers by the time they opened their store with organic products three years ago. Now they have about 800.No government agency or group tracks raw milk sales nationwide. But in Washington state, the number of dairies selling raw milk to the public grew from six to 22 in the past two years. In Massachusetts, the number has more than doubled to 24 in the past five years even as the overall number of dairies has declined.Wisconsin has banned the sale and distribution of unpasteurized milk, although it allows "incidental sales" by farmers. It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk.That prompted Wisconsin farmers, like those in a number of other states, to make a variety of arrangements to sell raw milk legally. Farmers have sold shares in their cows, herds and milk licenses.Jane Ratajczak, 43, of Kiel, started buying raw milk from the Craigs after reading a book about natural cures. She now drinks four or five glasses a day and said she has noticed no ill effects."To me, it's refreshing," she said. "Just grab a glass of milk." The FDA, however, says "raw milk, no matter how carefully produced, may be unsafe." More than 1,000 people, including two who died, got sick from raw milk or cheese made from raw milk from 1998 to May 2005, according to the most recent count from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.M.L. JOHNSON, Associated Press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 You notice they didn't mention that 2 people died and 1 woman miscarried in the last 3 months of 2007 from pastuerized milk.Terri and Barb wrote: the article also states that in the course of 8 years 2 people died from raw milk, well food can be dangerous, and how many have died from eating contaminated beef? how many will die slow deaths from the chemicals in our food supply? Life is risky, drinking raw milk is just not one the greatest risks in my mind. I have a great idea, let all us ignorant, middle classmen decide for ourselves! wow, what a thought. Should the government be in the business of telling us how to do everything??! Thanks for the article. Barb Eastern CO the bleat goes on below is another textbook example of what propaganda looks like ... giving the appearance of being even-handed, the give-away is the sentence "It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk. " How kind of Big Brother to let his serfs in Wisconsin use their own property!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Consumer demand for raw milk up Health officials, advocates at odds over its risk factor NEW HOLSTEIN, Wis. - Despite potentially serious health risks, demand for unpasteurized, or raw, milk is growing among consumers concerned about chemicals, hormones and drugs. With prices topping $5 per gallon, more dairies are selling raw milk - and finding themselves at odds with public health officials. The federal government and a majority of states prohibit sales of raw milk to the public, claiming it is responsible for hundreds of people sickened in the past decade with salmonella, E. coli, Listeria monocytogenes and other bacteria. In Tennessee, those who purchase it and sell it are breaking the law and could face a misdemeanor charge and a fine of up to $500. Dairy farmers caught selling unpasteurized milk could have their permits revoked. Legislative proposals to legalize it have repeatedly failed. "Raw milk continues to cause outbreaks year after year," said Sheehan, who oversees plant and dairy food products for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. "It is a concern for the FDA." Advocates dispute reports from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other health agencies. They claim raw milk relieves allergies, asthma, autism and digestive disorders. "Raw milk is like a magic food for children," said Sally Fallon, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation, a nonprofit that advocates consumption of whole, natural foods. Pasteurization should not affect milk's taste, texture or nutritional content, aside from a slight loss of vitamin C, said Bradley, a University of Wisconsin-Madison professor who has worked in food science for 44 years. However, the process can destroy proteins and enzymes that help the body absorb vitamins and digest lactose, said Babb, a registered dietitian who teaches at Bastyr University in Kenmore, Wash., which promotes natural and alternative medicines. High heat also can damage water-soluble B vitamins, she said. People looking for raw milk began showing up at Kay and Wayne Craig's organic farm in eastern Wisconsin five or six years ago. Many had digestive issues and other health problems. "They're sick of being sick, and they're sick of the meds and the side effects, and so they're looking for options," said Wayne Craig, 50. The couple had about 100 customers by the time they opened their store with organic products three years ago. Now they have about 800. No government agency or group tracks raw milk sales nationwide. But in Washington state, the number of dairies selling raw milk to the public grew from six to 22 in the past two years. In Massachusetts, the number has more than doubled to 24 in the past five years even as the overall number of dairies has declined. Wisconsin has banned the sale and distribution of unpasteurized milk, although it allows "incidental sales" by farmers. It also permits farm owners to consume their own milk. That prompted Wisconsin farmers, like those in a number of other states, to make a variety of arrangements to sell raw milk legally. Farmers have sold shares in their cows, herds and milk licenses. Jane Ratajczak, 43, of Kiel, started buying raw milk from the Craigs after reading a book about natural cures. She now drinks four or five glasses a day and said she has noticed no ill effects. "To me, it's refreshing," she said. "Just grab a glass of milk." The FDA, however, says "raw milk, no matter how carefully produced, may be unsafe." More than 1,000 people, including two who died, got sick from raw milk or cheese made from raw milk from 1998 to May 2005, according to the most recent count from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. M.L. JOHNSON, Associated Press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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