Re: Is Autism treatable and recoverable?

October 18, 2009

Hi ,

I think I saw somewhere that you do a radio show with Dr. . I was

wondering when you'd respond to this thread and am glad to hear your

perspective. I know you aren't really saying that Dr. is 100%

responsible for the amazing improvements in your child. Obviously you've done a

ton for your child and should be proud. Ours was considered recovered at the age

of five. No biomed at all. We went to the clinic after that actually just to

address some balance issues. We had just heard about it's recent opening or else

we may have gone sooner.

It was precisely because of his focus on the immune system and the rave reviews

that we waited several months to get an appointment to see Dr. despite

an urgent medical need our son experienced after starting the protocol. All of

the rave reviews are a bit hard to hear when our child is suffering needlessly

and we were treated so badly. It's kind of cruel, actually. I'm sure no one

who's raving about Dr. means it that way. They can only speak from their

own perspective. Who knows - if we'd actually gotten to speak to the man, we

might be raving too. What I do know is he forced a fourth round of testing on us

refusing to even speak with us, where many other parents are given a total pass

from the testing altogether. Maybe you can mention our negative experience and

suggest that he call me to explain this customized treatment approach?

He has all of our personal home and cell numbers and we are very easy to reach

if he picks up the phone. He does not answer the phone at the clinics. Hard for

us to break through the iron curtain :-)

>

> I was interviewed recently by a reporter regarding the question, " Is Autism

Treatable and Recoverable? "

>

> I wanted to share with you all what I said (could have said more had time

permitted):

>

> " I know not all autism is the same, and some of you have adult children who

are still very affected by autism. I don't know why some of our kids recover

and some do not, but I have learned to stick with one

methodology/therapy/intervention for atleast 6 months before making a decision

that it is or is not working for my child. I also believe that each child has

unique symptoms that must be addressed individually. However, I do want

to discuss my story so that it can offer hope to parents who are still fighting.

>

> My son is almost 9 years old and regressed into autism at age 18 months. He

lived in a silent world, that even we could not enter for several years. He was

in constant pain, and we have photos of him with a distended stomach, dark

circles under his eyes, frequent rashes and sleepless nights. He was nonverbal,

tantrumming and incontinent. We were all prisoners in our own home, including

him. He could not tolerate the stimuli in the outside world- bright lights, loud

noises, crowded places. We took turns going to church, and our friends never

knew we married because only one parent usually attended any social event.

>

> In 2007, we began biomedical intervention after spending three years under the

care of a neurologist and pediatric psychologist who prescribed medications to

control my son's behaviors. At first, it was not pleasant. Our son's behavior

became worse and we thought it was the biggest mistake we ever made to stop his

medication. He became aggressive and unfocused and stopped eating. Then, after

three months he started to say single words. He had moments of clarity and

focus. At six months, he began speaking in sentences. At one year, he stopped

having tantrums and enjoyed going out. In fact, he asked frequently to go to the

store or the zoo. Today, he is able to write in a 12 font and on a straight

line. He is learning to read, and enjoys math as well. He is calm and looks

very healthy. We still have a ways to go, and he may always be considered

'autistic' but most importantly he is not suffering or in pain. He is becoming

a talented

> sculptor, and also loves to draw animals. I don't really care if he is

'autistic' the rest of his life as long as he is healthy, happy and free from

pain. Trying to get a 'normal' child was never part of my goal. I'm sorry if

this offends some of you, but I believe we are all different and unique and I

have embraced my son's 'autism' as part of who he is.

>

> Many parents ask me what we have done to see such amazing improvements in my

son. We have been under the care of Dr. Kendal . However, his protocol is

customized to each individual child so I cannot say in a blanket statement that

it was just supplements or diet or other biomedical interventions that he used.

I believe he is differentiated from many other doctors because he treats the

immune system and not just the symptoms, and has a patented technology to look

for neuro-inflammation.

>

> I want to also add that we went to great lengths to 'clean up our

environment.' Before starting any special diet, we first moved to 100% organic

and avoided genetically modified food. We stopped eating anything artificial. I

work full time and I travel for my job, and convenience foods were part of my

shopping list, but I had to force myself to cook from scratch on the weekends

and freeze. Yes, it is painful but the rewards are so worth it! We also looked

at what products were in our home- BPA plastics, toys made in China, aluminum,

mercury lightbulbs (yes, those energy efficient ones) and cleaning chemicals.

Gone!

>

> Many parents tell me that is just too much work and too expensive. Well, it's

not. You just have to be resourceful and stay focused. Importantly, don't set

out to heal just your child with autism. Think about healing your entire

family. What's the point of making such a big effort if your child is still

exposed to second hand smoke or unhealthy lifestyles of other family members?

Further, is it really fair to give your affected child 'healthy' food and give

his/her neurotypical siblings Twinkies, Cheetos and other junk food? That's

rather punishing, in my opinion.

>

> In addition to seeing huge cognitive gains in my son, my entire family has

benefited from healing from chronic illness using the " clean up our environment "

philosophy. My youngest son is not taking allergy or asthma medications any

more. My husband is a cancer survivor and has beat the odds of the cancer

returning. My allergies and asthma are mild, compared to severe symptoms I used

to have.

>

> I certainly don't have all the answers, but I believe that toxins in our world

are causing many chronic health issues. When our immune systems are weak, we

tend to accumulate toxins, metals and pathogens. We can spend much time and

money on methods such as chelation and anti-infectives, but if we don't heal our

immune systems first we will be fighting environmental insults the rest of our

lives.

>

> Wellness, in my opinion, is a choice. To those of you doing all these things

and still not seeing progress, never give up. You or your child may have a

significant burden that may take years to correct. What's the worst that can

happen? You and everyone around you will be healthier. "

>

October 19, 2009

We are in our 4th month of treatment with Dr. . My 14 year old is

making steady gains after a rough start with Neurotransmitter support

which Dr. changed to Methyl XL. I have found him competent and

willing to listen. He has never called me on the phone, in fact the only

doctor who ever did was my Pediatrician (when he had a question) and my

OBGYN when I was in labor. I am fine with the testing that is done, it

is not invasive or overly stressful and I feel his protocol based on the

needs of my child in particular is on the right track. I feel confident

Dr. is human and may be very busy but I have faith that this

growing pain has nothing what so ever to do with my sons medical care.

Trina

wrote:

>

> Hi ,

>

> I think I saw somewhere that you do a radio show with Dr. . I

> was wondering when you'd respond to this thread and am glad to hear

> your perspective. I know you aren't really saying that Dr. is

> 100% responsible for the amazing improvements in your child. Obviously

> you've done a ton for your child and should be proud. Ours was

> considered recovered at the age of five. No biomed at all. We went to

> the clinic after that actually just to address some balance issues. We

> had just heard about it's recent opening or else we may have gone sooner.

>

> It was precisely because of his focus on the immune system and the

> rave reviews that we waited several months to get an appointment to

> see Dr. despite an urgent medical need our son experienced

> after starting the protocol. All of the rave reviews are a bit hard to

> hear when our child is suffering needlessly and we were treated so

> badly. It's kind of cruel, actually. I'm sure no one who's raving

> about Dr. means it that way. They can only speak from their

> own perspective. Who knows - if we'd actually gotten to speak to the

> man, we might be raving too. What I do know is he forced a fourth

> round of testing on us refusing to even speak with us, where many

> other parents are given a total pass from the testing altogether.

> Maybe you can mention our negative experience and suggest that he call

> me to explain this customized treatment approach?

>

> He has all of our personal home and cell numbers and we are very easy

> to reach if he picks up the phone. He does not answer the phone at the

> clinics. Hard for us to break through the iron curtain :-)

>

> >

> > I was interviewed recently by a reporter regarding the question, " Is

> Autism Treatable and Recoverable? "

> >

> > I wanted to share with you all what I said (could have said more had

> time permitted):

> >

> > " I know not all autism is the same, and some of you have adult

> children who are still very affected by autism. I don't know why some

> of our kids recover and some do not, but I have learned to stick

> with one methodology/therapy/intervention for atleast 6 months before

> making a decision that it is or is not working for my child. I also

> believe that each child has unique symptoms that must be addressed

> individually. However, I do want to discuss my story so that it can

> offer hope to parents who are still fighting.

> >

> > My son is almost 9 years old and regressed into autism at age 18

> months. He lived in a silent world, that even we could not enter for

> several years. He was in constant pain, and we have photos of him

> with a distended stomach, dark circles under his eyes, frequent rashes

> and sleepless nights. He was nonverbal, tantrumming and incontinent.

> We were all prisoners in our own home, including him. He could not

> tolerate the stimuli in the outside world- bright lights, loud noises,

> crowded places. We took turns going to church, and our friends never

> knew we married because only one parent usually attended any social event.

> >

> > In 2007, we began biomedical intervention after spending three years

> under the care of a neurologist and pediatric psychologist who

> prescribed medications to control my son's behaviors. At first, it

> was not pleasant. Our son's behavior became worse and we thought it

> was the biggest mistake we ever made to stop his medication. He became

> aggressive and unfocused and stopped eating. Then, after three months

> he started to say single words. He had moments of clarity and focus.

> At six months, he began speaking in sentences. At one year, he

> stopped having tantrums and enjoyed going out. In fact, he asked

> frequently to go to the store or the zoo. Today, he is able to write

> in a 12 font and on a straight line. He is learning to read, and

> enjoys math as well. He is calm and looks very healthy. We still

> have a ways to go, and he may always be considered 'autistic' but most

> importantly he is not suffering or in pain. He is becoming a talented

> > sculptor, and also loves to draw animals. I don't really care if he

> is 'autistic' the rest of his life as long as he is healthy, happy and

> free from pain. Trying to get a 'normal' child was never part of my

> goal. I'm sorry if this offends some of you, but I believe we are all

> different and unique and I have embraced my son's 'autism' as part of

> who he is.

> >

> > Many parents ask me what we have done to see such amazing

> improvements in my son. We have been under the care of Dr. Kendal

> . However, his protocol is customized to each individual child

> so I cannot say in a blanket statement that it was just supplements or

> diet or other biomedical interventions that he used. I believe he is

> differentiated from many other doctors because he treats the immune

> system and not just the symptoms, and has a patented technology to

> look for neuro-inflammation.

> >

> > I want to also add that we went to great lengths to 'clean up our

> environment.' Before starting any special diet, we first moved to

> 100% organic and avoided genetically modified food. We stopped eating

> anything artificial. I work full time and I travel for my job, and

> convenience foods were part of my shopping list, but I had to force

> myself to cook from scratch on the weekends and freeze. Yes, it is

> painful but the rewards are so worth it! We also looked at what

> products were in our home- BPA plastics, toys made in China, aluminum,

> mercury lightbulbs (yes, those energy efficient ones) and cleaning

> chemicals. Gone!

> >

> > Many parents tell me that is just too much work and too expensive.

> Well, it's not. You just have to be resourceful and stay focused.

> Importantly, don't set out to heal just your child with autism. Think

> about healing your entire family. What's the point of making such a

> big effort if your child is still exposed to second hand smoke or

> unhealthy lifestyles of other family members? Further, is it really

> fair to give your affected child 'healthy' food and give his/her

> neurotypical siblings Twinkies, Cheetos and other junk food? That's

> rather punishing, in my opinion.

> >

> > In addition to seeing huge cognitive gains in my son, my entire

> family has benefited from healing from chronic illness using the

> " clean up our environment " philosophy. My youngest son is not taking

> allergy or asthma medications any more. My husband is a cancer

> survivor and has beat the odds of the cancer returning. My allergies

> and asthma are mild, compared to severe symptoms I used to have.

> >

> > I certainly don't have all the answers, but I believe that toxins in

> our world are causing many chronic health issues. When our immune

> systems are weak, we tend to accumulate toxins, metals and pathogens.

> We can spend much time and money on methods such as chelation and

> anti-infectives, but if we don't heal our immune systems first we will

> be fighting environmental insults the rest of our lives.

> >

> > Wellness, in my opinion, is a choice. To those of you doing all

> these things and still not seeing progress, never give up. You or

> your child may have a significant burden that may take years to

> correct. What's the worst that can happen? You and everyone around

> you will be healthier. "

> >

>

October 19, 2009

Well said !We, too, have seen great improvements with many of the things you describe. If our son is always considered " autistic, " we can live with that. For us it is the pain and suffering he goes through with repeat infections. We have cleaned up his diet, but now we are finally focusing on his environment at home. It is slow going, but we have NEVER used the energy efficient light bulbs, and we have reduced aluminum cans by 99.9%. I know there are many other things we need to do.

One thing I would also suggest is that to ourselves and our children tested for iodine levels. The only place you can get it on a daily basis in the American diet is in salt, but a person would have to use 17 tsp. of iodized salt to get enough in a day. They used to fortify foods with it, but then they took the iodine out and replaced it with bromides (bad stuff).

Why is this important? Sufficient iodine is needed by almost every system in the body. it is vital for thyroid function and detoxification. It is suggested that it protects against many forms of cancer and from cancer returning. It is an important nutrient that is often over looked.

I had many breast issues beginning at age 25. I had my first biopsy at 27. I had fibrocystic breast diesease and very often had to have cysts aspirated. I had by fourth biopsy four years ago, and it came back precancerous. I did some research and I had a great holistic doctor who did the test for me, and I was very low in iodine. Since beginning iodine supplementation I no longer have fibrocystic breasts, an I have had the best mammograms of my life. I'm now in my fifties. On my last checkup, I had run out of my supplement and was so busy I hadn't had any to take for over three months. I went in for my mammogram, and sure enough, suspicious places were back. It turns out they were only cysts, but my radiologist asked me what I had been doing differrently. I told her I had run out of my iodine. She said to get back on it quickly. I go back for a six month checkup this month. If I'm back to normal, it has to be the iodine.

This doctor also agrees with me about the use of aluminum containing antiperspirants and really anything that prevents you from sweating. We need to detox! The only thing we use out of a can is beans, but I plan to even begin doing those from scratch. We DO NOT ever wrap any food in aluminum foil.

It is all about lowering your child's toxic load --and all of us, too.Your son and mine are about the same age. My son regressed immediately after his fifteen month shots. Our stories are very similar. My son is very talkative now, creative, imaginative, funny. His autism is what makes him so unique, but I want to figure out his immune system, and advocate for an appropriate education. he learns in a different manner and he should be taught the way he can learn. These are my two big issues. We are STILL trying to figure out the stimming, which he started doing again a few years ago. I think it is the toxic building he goes to school in.

God bless you for telling your story.Haven

October 19, 2009

Haven and you might find that SonRise will take your high functioning

amazing boys all the way!!! I am happy to come to your homes to play with your

boys or have you here to visit our sonrise room. I have no gain or motive other

than witnessing my child's transformation and I simply have to at least spread

the word.

The stimming is the way to reach the boys. I know it sounds crazy, but I

witnessed this in my home. The stimming is the way into their world so we can

show them the way out.

Too much really to type, but basically all the good intentions of intervening

are part of what contributes to the " autistic thinking. " I mean my belief is

that once diagnosed the children are under a microscope and analyzed. They

miss typical development because of their immune/nervous system poisoning, but

also because of our approach. Your boys are doing great and have much improved

brain function. They can learn this and I believe will LOVE THIS approach!

However I'd absolutely do this for a child who isn't as far into recovery. I'd

use it for a preverbal child who stims all day too!

Ocean vegetables and celtic sea salt good ideas to add to the diet. We like

arame, wakame, dulse, nori, and kombu. Tyler's thyroid normalyzed within 3

months of serving ocean vegetables and celtic salt (as well as eliminating all

processed, bad oils, sugar, chemicals etc....) The DAN doctor we had at the

time said " you cannot improve Thyroid with diet. " I replied " watch me. "

Good for you Ladies for your positive attitude. Mothers are magnificant! I

love being part of this group of moms.

>

> Well said !

>

> We, too, have seen great improvements with many of the things you describe.

> If our son is always considered " autistic, " we can live with that. For us

> it is the pain and suffering he goes through with repeat infections. We

> have cleaned up his diet, but now we are finally focusing on his environment

> at home. It is slow going, but we have NEVER used the energy efficient

> light bulbs, and we have reduced aluminum cans by 99.9%. I know there are

> many other things we need to do.

>

> One thing I would also suggest is that to ourselves and our children tested

> for iodine levels. The only place you can get it on a daily basis in the

> American diet is in salt, but a person would have to use 17 tsp. of iodized

> salt to get enough in a day. They used to fortify foods with it, but then

> they took the iodine out and replaced it with bromides (bad stuff).

>

> Why is this important? Sufficient iodine is needed by almost every system

> in the body. it is vital for thyroid function and detoxification. It is

> suggested that it protects against many forms of cancer and from cancer

> returning. It is an important nutrient that is often over looked.

>

> I had many breast issues beginning at age 25. I had my first biopsy at 27.

> I had fibrocystic breast diesease and very often had to have cysts

> aspirated. I had by fourth biopsy four years ago, and it came back

> precancerous. I did some research and I had a great holistic doctor who did

> the test for me, and I was very low in iodine. Since beginning iodine

> supplementation I no longer have fibrocystic breasts, an I have had the best

> mammograms of my life. I'm now in my fifties. On my last checkup, I had

> run out of my supplement and was so busy I hadn't had any to take for over

> three months. I went in for my mammogram, and sure enough, suspicious

> places were back. It turns out they were only cysts, but my radiologist

> asked me what I had been doing differrently. I told her I had run out of my

> iodine. She said to get back on it quickly. I go back for a six month

> checkup this month. If I'm back to normal, it has to be the iodine.

>

> This doctor also agrees with me about the use of aluminum containing

> antiperspirants and really anything that prevents you from sweating. We

> need to detox! The only thing we use out of a can is beans, but I plan to

> even begin doing those from scratch. We DO NOT ever wrap any food in

> aluminum foil.

>

> It is all about lowering your child's toxic load --and all of us, too.

>

> Your son and mine are about the same age. My son regressed immediately

> after his fifteen month shots. Our stories are very similar. My son is

> very talkative now, creative, imaginative, funny. His autism is what makes

> him so unique, but I want to figure out his immune system, and advocate for

> an appropriate education. he learns in a different manner and he should be

> taught the way he can learn. These are my two big issues. We are STILL

> trying to figure out the stimming, which he started doing again a few years

> ago. I think it is the toxic building he goes to school in.

>

> God bless you for telling your story.

>

> Haven

>

October 19, 2009

Trina,

I'm glad things are going so smoothly for you and your son, that the testing has

been appropriately applied, no problem for your son at all and that Dr.

is willing to listen to you. I hope that is always the case. When you are able

to see the doctor, I guess you wouldn't need a phone call. I don't expect one

either, although Mirielle was saying how the issue needed to be addressed with

the doctor. I completely agree! Kind of difficult when you haven't had an

opportunity to speak with him. So I suggested if people are concerned about the

need for him to correct some kind of misunderstanding, it's easier for him to

reach me. Since apparently works with him and posted in defense of him, I

saw that as an opportunity where she might suggest it to him. You know, one

parent looking out for another. Or even her giving him the chance to defend

himself, if that is her primary concern. Definitely no expectation there,

although warranted under the circumstances and Dr. Morton often picked up the

phone himself with no request on my part. Just different styles.

I merely posted our experience for the potential benefit of the group as a

fellow parent. I didn't realize by doing so I would stir up a " defend Dr.

campaign " from those who have received better treatment and don't

believe they have been taken advantage of or mistreated. I kind of thought

that's what this list was about. Not so much about defending a doctor's

reputation who clearly has more business than he can handle. My objective was

not a smear campaign. In fact, I waited two weeks before even posting after

seeing continued discussion about him. Little did I realize the firestorm that

would ensue! Other support lists appreciate this kind of sharing of experiences.

I'm sorry I have apparently upset so many list members who feel the need to

defend him despite totally different circumstances.

Anyway, I am going to try to track him down again today see what, if any,

response we can get from him while my child continues to be cut off from their

medical care.

Best regards,

> > >

> > > I was interviewed recently by a reporter regarding the question, " Is

> > Autism Treatable and Recoverable? "

> > >

> > > I wanted to share with you all what I said (could have said more had

> > time permitted):

> > >

> > > " I know not all autism is the same, and some of you have adult

> > children who are still very affected by autism. I don't know why some

> > of our kids recover and some do not, but I have learned to stick

> > with one methodology/therapy/intervention for atleast 6 months before

> > making a decision that it is or is not working for my child. I also

> > believe that each child has unique symptoms that must be addressed

> > individually. However, I do want to discuss my story so that it can

> > offer hope to parents who are still fighting.

> > >

> > > My son is almost 9 years old and regressed into autism at age 18

> > months. He lived in a silent world, that even we could not enter for

> > several years. He was in constant pain, and we have photos of him

> > with a distended stomach, dark circles under his eyes, frequent rashes

> > and sleepless nights. He was nonverbal, tantrumming and incontinent.

> > We were all prisoners in our own home, including him. He could not

> > tolerate the stimuli in the outside world- bright lights, loud noises,

> > crowded places. We took turns going to church, and our friends never

> > knew we married because only one parent usually attended any social event.

> > >

> > > In 2007, we began biomedical intervention after spending three years

> > under the care of a neurologist and pediatric psychologist who

> > prescribed medications to control my son's behaviors. At first, it

> > was not pleasant. Our son's behavior became worse and we thought it

> > was the biggest mistake we ever made to stop his medication. He became

> > aggressive and unfocused and stopped eating. Then, after three months

> > he started to say single words. He had moments of clarity and focus.

> > At six months, he began speaking in sentences. At one year, he

> > stopped having tantrums and enjoyed going out. In fact, he asked

> > frequently to go to the store or the zoo. Today, he is able to write

> > in a 12 font and on a straight line. He is learning to read, and

> > enjoys math as well. He is calm and looks very healthy. We still

> > have a ways to go, and he may always be considered 'autistic' but most

> > importantly he is not suffering or in pain. He is becoming a talented

> > > sculptor, and also loves to draw animals. I don't really care if he

> > is 'autistic' the rest of his life as long as he is healthy, happy and

> > free from pain. Trying to get a 'normal' child was never part of my

> > goal. I'm sorry if this offends some of you, but I believe we are all

> > different and unique and I have embraced my son's 'autism' as part of

> > who he is.

> > >

> > > Many parents ask me what we have done to see such amazing

> > improvements in my son. We have been under the care of Dr. Kendal

> > . However, his protocol is customized to each individual child

> > so I cannot say in a blanket statement that it was just supplements or

> > diet or other biomedical interventions that he used. I believe he is

> > differentiated from many other doctors because he treats the immune

> > system and not just the symptoms, and has a patented technology to

> > look for neuro-inflammation.

> > >

> > > I want to also add that we went to great lengths to 'clean up our

> > environment.' Before starting any special diet, we first moved to

> > 100% organic and avoided genetically modified food. We stopped eating

> > anything artificial. I work full time and I travel for my job, and

> > convenience foods were part of my shopping list, but I had to force

> > myself to cook from scratch on the weekends and freeze. Yes, it is

> > painful but the rewards are so worth it! We also looked at what

> > products were in our home- BPA plastics, toys made in China, aluminum,

> > mercury lightbulbs (yes, those energy efficient ones) and cleaning

> > chemicals. Gone!

> > >

> > > Many parents tell me that is just too much work and too expensive.

> > Well, it's not. You just have to be resourceful and stay focused.

> > Importantly, don't set out to heal just your child with autism. Think

> > about healing your entire family. What's the point of making such a

> > big effort if your child is still exposed to second hand smoke or

> > unhealthy lifestyles of other family members? Further, is it really

> > fair to give your affected child 'healthy' food and give his/her

> > neurotypical siblings Twinkies, Cheetos and other junk food? That's

> > rather punishing, in my opinion.

> > >

> > > In addition to seeing huge cognitive gains in my son, my entire

> > family has benefited from healing from chronic illness using the

> > " clean up our environment " philosophy. My youngest son is not taking

> > allergy or asthma medications any more. My husband is a cancer

> > survivor and has beat the odds of the cancer returning. My allergies

> > and asthma are mild, compared to severe symptoms I used to have.

> > >

> > > I certainly don't have all the answers, but I believe that toxins in

> > our world are causing many chronic health issues. When our immune

> > systems are weak, we tend to accumulate toxins, metals and pathogens.

> > We can spend much time and money on methods such as chelation and

> > anti-infectives, but if we don't heal our immune systems first we will

> > be fighting environmental insults the rest of our lives.

> > >

> > > Wellness, in my opinion, is a choice. To those of you doing all

> > these things and still not seeing progress, never give up. You or

> > your child may have a significant burden that may take years to

> > correct. What's the worst that can happen? You and everyone around

> > you will be healthier. "

> > >

> >

>

October 19, 2009

,

Please do not be too defensive with what you had posted.

Yes, it may have stirred the conversation up based on everyone's experience with

Dr. but it sure leaned towards analyzing what triggered to where you had

posted of not being a happy camper with him and it sure did not happen to the

others who have posted.

When I had posted it was asking questions of the possibilities that wondered off

where I assumed was there a lack of communication due to what happen to you?

Change of doctor's? Testing? Treatments?

As there were lots of questions while reading your post, like did you sound

demanding for Dr. to be as Dr. Morton? Got on the wrong foot with the

center.

But you have posted to others with your response on where, what or why, etc.?

was interviewed and shared her story about every contact list she is on,

based on her son's progress. Even though she has close ties with Dr. , I

did not notice her intention was aimed due to your post. It was the timing of it

all.

Hey, if you lit this fire, it sure kept everyone posting and the group list was

actually making some connection as well. Better than no one posting as we all

learn together of so much that is thrown our way. This is what the group list is

all about with the pros and cons or life would be boring.

Hope you get things resolved with Dr. 's center though.

I know Dr. has a pretty hectic schedule and Dr. has been filling

the appointments which everyone is also pleased with him.

Wishing you well on this mission so please do not feel like anyone is targeting

anything your way for such courage of sharing your side of the story, not that I

speak for anyone, just want you to know you are admire for also posting what you

did. Proud of anyone posting on what they do as it better than not having any

information at all.

Your post is nothing compared to other monstrous issues of what I am aware of.

But, us families must stick together the best possible way.

What can I say, hang in there and let's hope for the best you get back on track

on your mission with the proper support once again.

Irma

October 19, 2009

As a parent considering using Dr. for my sons, I appreciate ALL feedback about him and his office. Thank you everyone, esp. , who has responded! Sent from my iPhone

,

Please do not be too defensive with what you had posted.

Yes, it may have stirred the conversation up based on everyone's experience with Dr. but it sure leaned towards analyzing what triggered to where you had posted of not being a happy camper with him and it sure did not happen to the others who have posted.

When I had posted it was asking questions of the possibilities that wondered off where I assumed was there a lack of communication due to what happen to you? Change of doctor's? Testing? Treatments?

As there were lots of questions while reading your post, like did you sound demanding for Dr. to be as Dr. Morton? Got on the wrong foot with the center.

But you have posted to others with your response on where, what or why, etc.?

was interviewed and shared her story about every contact list she is on, based on her son's progress. Even though she has close ties with Dr. , I did not notice her intention was aimed due to your post. It was the timing of it all.

Hey, if you lit this fire, it sure kept everyone posting and the group list was actually making some connection as well. Better than no one posting as we all learn together of so much that is thrown our way. This is what the group list is all about with the pros and cons or life would be boring.

Hope you get things resolved with Dr. 's center though.

I know Dr. has a pretty hectic schedule and Dr. has been filling the appointments which everyone is also pleased with him.

Wishing you well on this mission so please do not feel like anyone is targeting anything your way for such courage of sharing your side of the story, not that I speak for anyone, just want you to know you are admire for also posting what you did. Proud of anyone posting on what they do as it better than not having any information at all.

Your post is nothing compared to other monstrous issues of what I am aware of. But, us families must stick together the best possible way.

What can I say, hang in there and let's hope for the best you get back on track on your mission with the proper support once again.

Irma

October 20, 2009

Thanks !I would be interested in knowing how to improve the thyroid with diet. I just learned they are discontinuing Armour thyroid. No doubt probably due to some payoffs here and there, and ow they want to force all of us who are hypothyroid to go on synthetics. I am trying to do it with L-tyrosine and iodine and a couple of other things. I refuse to take synthetic hormone. I'd rather do the whole thing naturally. I wasn't on a very high dose anyway --only 60 mg a day, but I don't want to go back to the way I felt went my thyroid started going downhill. This is just another sign of our toxic times. Just about every middle-aged woman I know in our area has thyroid problems.

We already use the celtic sea salt, and I add kelp to our soups. It's a great idea! Regarding the son-rise program, where are you located?Haven

October 21, 2009

They are not discontinueing Armour. Armour changed their formula and people are

having trouble with it. There are other manufacturers of dessicated thyroid. RCL

labs makes Westhroid and Naturethroid. They are currently running behind on

their production due to increased demand from former Armour patients who do not

respond to the new Armour formula ( my son is one - his TSH rose from 1.5 to 4.0

in one month!!)We are using a compounded dessicated thyroid in the meantime -

available at any pharmacy that does compounding. You may have to go thru an

adjustment period to find the best dose on the new product.

>

> Thanks !

>

> I would be interested in knowing how to improve the thyroid with diet. I

> just learned they are discontinuing Armour thyroid. No doubt probably due

> to some payoffs here and there, and ow they want to force all of us who are

> hypothyroid to go on synthetics. I am trying to do it with L-tyrosine and

> iodine and a couple of other things. I refuse to take synthetic hormone.

> I'd rather do the whole thing naturally. I wasn't on a very high dose

> anyway --only 60 mg a day, but I don't want to go back to the way I felt

> went my thyroid started going downhill. This is just another sign of our

> toxic times. Just about every middle-aged woman I know in our area has

> thyroid problems.

>

> We already use the celtic sea salt, and I add kelp to our soups. It's a

> great idea!

>

> Regarding the son-rise program, where are you located?

>

> Haven

>

October 21, 2009

:So how do I get this? Do I call my doctor and tell him I want a compounded formula? Will insurance cover it?My pharmacist said mine was being discontinued and I would have to call my doctor and get put on synthroid!

Thanks,Haven

October 21, 2009

Hi Haven, I live in Kingwood near Bush airport. Good using celtic, we crave it

now. You can just slowly start adding ocean vegetables to your regular meals.

Just soak in water and they rehydrate. Then rinse and add as you would any

vegetable. You might try adding to an omelet, or a meatball. I used to add a

tiny amt and then gradually got my family used to more. I love this meal:

saute ghee/onions

add steamed quinoa (i steam like rice)

add matchstick carrots

add soaked/rinsed arame

Top with celtic salt. Eventually I got my kids used to it topped with raw yolk.

Now I probably use ocean vegetables 2x a week.

Dulse nice just throwing it in some coconut oil for a few seconds on med heat.

Or raw as part of a trail mix.

Try to get rid of fluoride sources....sounds like you already have....just in

case.

Let me know about SonRise...done wonders for my people (including bring peace to

me)