Re: Chris Heard

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Asha Chagarlamudi in South London is an MD

Sally

Margaret wrote:

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> The only problem is that none of these are MDs and therefore can't

> write prescriptions, order blood tests or X-rays.

> Margaret

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> In a message dated 18/01/2008 12:52:55 GMT Standard Time,

> bbuyonline@... writes:

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> yes, can someone in the know give out info on other available

> options in the uk for

> biomedical treatment and an idea of their waiting lists.

>

> >>Jon Tommey in Surrey, Muscroft in Chester and Lorene Amet

> in Edinburgh, all will work long distance after 1st consult, Jon

> comes to you to see child in own surroundings, all are parents of

> ASD kids, actually Jeans is formerly ASD having recovered

>

> Mandi x

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Chelsea and Westminster Hospital

Sally

Jane Hogan wrote:

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> Where does Dr Fell work ?

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> In a message dated 18/01/2008 12:52:55 GMT Standard Time,

> bbuyonline@... writes:

>

> yes, can someone in the know give out info on other

> available options in the uk for

> biomedical treatment and an idea of their waiting lists.

>

> >>Jon Tommey in Surrey, Muscroft in Chester and Lorene

> Amet in Edinburgh, all will work long distance after 1st

> consult, Jon comes to you to see child in own surroundings,

> all are parents of ASD kids, actually Jeans is formerly ASD

> having recovered

>

> Mandi x

>

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They don't know yet. They said it may be someone from the hospital or someone outside.

The new person has to be a DAN person otherwise how is he going to deliver the same service as Dr Heard??

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The new person has to be a DAN person otherwise how is he going to deliver the same service as Dr Heard??

>>I thought the asian lady, is it Dr Yoegh? might be taking over but there is nothing in the letter. Dr Heard had never been to a DAN! conference FWIW.................

Mandi x

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He is not old, just has money and the freedom to retire whenever he likes. Fortunatelly for him, unfortunatelly for us....

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If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

>>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid would have gotten worse FWIW

Mandi x

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Is Monro at Breakspear a DAN doctor? She is rated highly isnt she so i imagine she will get

the best person she can find.

>>I don't rate her WITH OUR KIDS, she may be OK for adults or others. I know a few that saw her before Heard was there............their feedback is what I base my opinions on FWIW

Mandi x

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Gosh

I haven't heard that yet! do they say who is taking over from him?

Heard

Just got a letter saying he's retiring at the end of March!

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I just got home, my letter

was here too. I just got all my test results back, and I will get 1

consult, I hope! (scheduled for the end of Feb).

Is Dr Heard that old? I don't remember thinking he looked that old.

-Jenna

lhiggy@... wrote:

They don't know yet. They said it may be someone from the

hospital or someone outside.

The new person has to be a DAN person otherwise how is he going

to deliver the same service as Dr Heard??

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thats 3 doctors i know of now who have either retired or left

practices working with our kids.

(2 below the age of 50) dont know what age Heard is.

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> In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:26:25 GMT Standard Time,

lhiggy@...

> writes:

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> The new person has to be a DAN person otherwise how is he going to

deliver

> the same service as Dr Heard??

>

>

>

> >>I thought the asian lady, is it Dr Yoegh? might be taking over

but there

> is nothing in the letter. Dr Heard had never been to a DAN!

conference

> FWIW.................

>

> Mandi x

>

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If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised. lhiggy@... wrote: He is not old, just has money and the freedom to retire whenever he likes. Fortunatelly for him, unfortunatelly for us....

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Is Monro at Breakspear a DAN doctor? She is rated highly isnt she so i imagine she will get

the best person she can find.

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I did mostly everything myself....I trust myself more :-))))) and especially my gut instinct. In any case, what's the point of becoming healthy and the bank account emptying. That causes undue stress.......

Re: Heard

In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:55:35 GMT Standard Time, catherine_castiglione writes:

If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

>>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid would have gotten worse FWIW

Mandi x

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The first thing that occurred to me when I got my letter was that

maybe Deer, M Fitzpatrick and that lot had got it in for him

and were trying to interest the GMC. I don;t hink I'm particularly

paranoid. The second thing that occurred to me was that either he or

a close family member was ill.

I really don't think he was earning that much at the Breakspear, when

you consider overheads and professional insurances. I am sure my

dentist charges more per hour.

Margaret

>

> I did mostly everything myself....I trust myself more :-))))) and

especially my gut instinct. In any case, what's the point of

becoming healthy and the bank account emptying. That causes undue

stress.......

> Re: Heard

>

>

>

> In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:55:35 GMT Standard Time,

catherine_castiglione@... writes:

> If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much

more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN

doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start

chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

> >>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had

I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid

would have gotten worse FWIW

>

> Mandi x

>

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absolutely agree with not needing doctor.

in my experience, been a huge rip off. we paid the guts of £2000 here

for a bunch of useless tests from germany and off the wall

supplements. WE paid our doc £160.00 per hour and when i think of

it, i still want to cry.

the doctor was just starting out and i think my son was his guinea

pig (i was soo naive at the start, didnt know any better)

now we do most of it on our own with help of a nutritionist and of

course all you wonderful people.

Just cause somebody calls themselves a DAN means nothing whatsoever.

further, there are other protocols than DAN, there is also just PLAIN

GOOD SENSE, that you get from knowing your own child and doing your

own research.

DAN is about branding, like everything else and we line their

pockets.

>

> I did mostly everything myself....I trust myself more :-))))) and

especially my gut instinct. In any case, what's the point of

becoming healthy and the bank account emptying. That causes undue

stress.......

> Re: Heard

>

>

>

> In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:55:35 GMT Standard Time,

catherine_castiglione@... writes:

> If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much

more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN

doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start

chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

> >>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had

I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid

would have gotten worse FWIW

>

> Mandi x

>

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Same here Margaret, I also wondered if he was ill, or maybe even

setting up on his own? Retiring from the practice needn't necessarily

mean retiring full stop.

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The one benefit we have found with The Breakspear is getting blood samples taken. We don't have a good GP - so it makes life a lot easier. Re: [Autism-Biomedical- Europe] Heard

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>

>

> In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:55:35 GMT Standard Time,

catherine_castiglio ne@... writes:

> If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much

more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN

doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start

chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

> >>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had

I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid

would have gotten worse FWIW

>

> Mandi x

>

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The one benefit we have found with The Breakspear is getting blood samples taken. We don't have a good GP - so it makes life a lot easier. Re: [Autism-Biomedical- Europe] Heard

>

>

>

> In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:55:35 GMT Standard Time,

catherine_castiglio ne@... writes:

> If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much

more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN

doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start

chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

> >>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had

I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid

would have gotten worse FWIW

>

> Mandi x

>

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Has anyone got a phone consult with him? It would be good to find out if he is going it alone. Re: Heard

Same here Margaret, I also wondered if he was ill, or maybe even

setting up on his own? Retiring from the practice needn't necessarily

mean retiring full stop.

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Hi, Just spoke to the Breakespear they say he is ceasing medical practice and moving abroad. Jane Hogan wrote: Has anyone got a phone consult with him? It would be good to find out if he is going it alone. Re: Heard Same here Margaret, I also wondered if he was ill, or maybe even setting up on his own? Retiring from the practice needn't necessarily mean retiring full stop.

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Hi, Just spoke to the Breakespear they say he is ceasing medical practice and moving abroad. Jane Hogan wrote: Has anyone got a phone consult with him? It would be good to find out if he is going it alone. Re: Heard Same here Margaret, I also wondered if he was ill, or maybe even setting up on his own? Retiring from the practice needn't necessarily mean retiring full stop.

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HE did say to me once that it was an uncomfortable place to be -

practicing this kind of medicine that is. I think he did find the

whole thing very stressful and he did take a lot of holidays. We found

him very useful and I wish him well in any future plans.

> >

> > I did mostly everything myself....I trust myself more :-))))) and

> especially my gut instinct. In any case, what's the point of

> becoming healthy and the bank account emptying. That causes undue

> stress.......

> > Re: Heard

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:55:35 GMT Standard Time,

> catherine_castiglione@ writes:

> > If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much

> more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN

> doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start

> chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

> > >>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had

> I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid

> would have gotten worse FWIW

> >

> > Mandi x

> >

>

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HE did say to me once that it was an uncomfortable place to be -

practicing this kind of medicine that is. I think he did find the

whole thing very stressful and he did take a lot of holidays. We found

him very useful and I wish him well in any future plans.

> >

> > I did mostly everything myself....I trust myself more :-))))) and

> especially my gut instinct. In any case, what's the point of

> becoming healthy and the bank account emptying. That causes undue

> stress.......

> > Re: Heard

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:55:35 GMT Standard Time,

> catherine_castiglione@ writes:

> > If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much

> more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN

> doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start

> chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

> > >>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had

> I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid

> would have gotten worse FWIW

> >

> > Mandi x

> >

>

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The trouble is chelation isn't the whole answer for a lot of kids and

trying to fix the immune system is pretty complicated. We are still

quite a way off but Charlie's porphrin test is now better than my NT

child so once the metals are down you still have to fix the damage

they have caused.

Peta

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " JULIE GRIFFITHS "

wrote:

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> I did mostly everything myself....I trust myself more :-))))) and

especially my gut instinct. In any case, what's the point of

becoming healthy and the bank account emptying. That causes undue

stress.......

> Re: Heard

>

>

>

> In a message dated 17/01/2008 11:55:35 GMT Standard Time,

catherine_castiglione@... writes:

> If I were him I'd be heading for the US where there is so much

more support. Can anyone advise - are there any other experienced DAN

doctors (not nutrionists) in the SE. we were just about to start

chelation and I don't want to do this unsupervised.

> >>I chelated with no supervision save a few NHS blood tests, had

I been supervised by a DAN and used one of their protocols my kid

would have gotten worse FWIW

>

> Mandi x

>

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yes me too. Think this is a bad thing actually, whatever you might say

about better to go alone, many parents wouldn't even consider many of

the treatments without the aid of someone with letters after their

name. Very bad news for biomed, let's hope there are more to take up

the baton.

Steph x

>

> Just got a letter saying he's retiring at the end of March!

>