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Joanne-

A good way to check ear asymmetry is to wet down the hair and hold

pencils behind the ears and look from the top. This gives you a

great visual. Then hold then below the ears and look at Nick's

face. This will show you if one is lower than the other. I found

this to be very helpful.

Dane's mom DOC Grad

> > > > Joanne,

> > > > What type of band is in? My daughter is in a

DOCband.

> > She

> > > > does have facial asymmetry and her ears are misaligned. Her

OT

> > says

> > > > they WILL correct. The ears are usually the last thing to

> > correct.

> > > > I've never heard of a place NEVER doing a second band. I

think it

> > > > depends on the child and the severity of their plagio.

> > > >

> > > > --- In Plagiocephaly@y..., " Darren & Joanne " <hamberg@s...>

wrote:

> > > > > Hi All!

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't post much, but read every message I receive. I just

> > > > received some upsetting news about my son (11

months). He

> > > has

> > > > been in a band for 4 months with some correction. The OT who

> > took

> > > > over his case says his ears will never be aligned and that

he has

> > > > only 2 more months of band therapy. She also says they never

do

> > > > second bands!! HELP!!!! Of course, I want to hear his ears

will

> > > > align, but she saying they won't move at all. What are your

> > > > experiences? I live in BC, Canada. The only CT clinic I know

of

> > is

> > > in

> > > > Calgary...but if needed I'll take him there!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Joanne &

> > > > > Re: how round is round enough?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I am in exactly the same boat as Matt and with

> > > > (except she's going on 11 months old). We were just told at

her

> > > > fitting last night that she only has 6 weeks of room left in

her

> > > > band. That would bring the total wear time to just under 4.5

> > months.

> > > > We've seen drastic improvement in head shape, so-so

improvement

> > in

> > > > ear alignment, and I don't think the facial asymmetry was

ever

> > that

> > > > big of an issue for us.

> > > > >

> > > > > She was severe when it all started. Not sure what they

> > think

> > > > she is now, but we still have 6 weeks to go. We're still

waiting

> > for

> > > > our United HealthCare to pay the bill. It was submitted to

them

> > in

> > > > July! As with everyone on this list, we've had our share of

> > stress

> > > > and so has .

> > > > >

> > > > > So...do we press on for a more perfect head or do we

let

> > her

> > > > be? I'm not so much worried about the cosmetic side anymore.

The

> > > only

> > > > thing I worry about is jaw/teeth/ear problems later. Have we

done

> > > > enough?

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm sure this is a dilemma we all face. When is it

time to

> > be

> > > > done with it all? CT isn't going to tell us which way to go.

Of

> > > > course, that's our decision.

> > > > >

> > > > > Like Matt and , we're curious what you think

about a

> > > > second band.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kerri & baby (Chicago)

> > > > >

> > > > > For more plagio info, go to

www.plagiocephaly.org/support

> > > > >

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,

Thanks for the reply. I am seriously considering taking Nick to Calgary!

Joanne

Re: how round is round enough?

> > >

> > >

> > > I am in exactly the same boat as Matt and with

> > (except she's going on 11 months old). We were just told at her

> > fitting last night that she only has 6 weeks of room left in her

> > band. That would bring the total wear time to just under 4.5 months.

> > We've seen drastic improvement in head shape, so-so improvement in

> > ear alignment, and I don't think the facial asymmetry was ever that

> > big of an issue for us.

> > >

> > > She was severe when it all started. Not sure what they think

> > she is now, but we still have 6 weeks to go. We're still waiting for

> > our United HealthCare to pay the bill. It was submitted to them in

> > July! As with everyone on this list, we've had our share of stress

> > and so has .

> > >

> > > So...do we press on for a more perfect head or do we let her

> > be? I'm not so much worried about the cosmetic side anymore. The

> only

> > thing I worry about is jaw/teeth/ear problems later. Have we done

> > enough?

> > >

> > > I'm sure this is a dilemma we all face. When is it time to be

> > done with it all? CT isn't going to tell us which way to go. Of

> > course, that's our decision.

> > >

> > > Like Matt and , we're curious what you think about a

> > second band.

> > >

> > > Kerri & baby (Chicago)

> > >

> > > For more plagio info

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Thanks for the reply. I really needed to hear that. We have seen some

correction of Nick's ears, but they remain off. How do you know how out of

align they are? Before we got the band, if you looked face to face at Nick

you couldn't see his left ear!

Joanne

Re: how round is round enough?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am in exactly the same boat as Matt and with

> > > (except she's going on 11 months old). We were just told at her

> > > fitting last night that she only has 6 weeks of room left in her

> > > band. That would bring the total wear time to just under 4.5

> months.

> > > We've seen drastic improvement in head shape, so-so improvement

> in

> > > ear alignment, and I don't think the facial asymmetry was ever

> that

> > > big of an issue for us.

> > > >

> > > > She was severe when it all started. Not sure what they

> think

> > > she is now, but we still have 6 weeks to go. We're still waiting

> for

> > > our United HealthCare to pay the bill. It was submitted to them

> in

> > > July! As with everyone on this list, we've had our share of

> stress

> > > and so has .

> > > >

> > > > So...do we press on for a more perfect head or do we let

> her

> > > be? I'm not so much worried about the cosmetic side anymore. The

> > only

> > > thing I worry about is jaw/teeth/ear problems later. Have we done

> > > enough?

> > > >

> > > > I'm sure this is a dilemma we all face. When is it time to

> be

> > > done with it all? CT isn't going to tell us which way to go. Of

> > > course, that's our decision.

> > > >

> > > > Like Matt and , we're curious what you think about a

> > > second band.

> > > >

> > > > Kerri & baby (Chicago)

> > > >

> > > > For more plagio info

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Joanne,

I know that with a DOCband and a STARband which are active bands,

apply gentle pressure to all prominent areas of the head.

Nick's band should constantly be shifting. DocBand and Starband

babies get adjustments either once a week or once every 2 weeks,

depending on the childs age.

What is the name of the place you go to? Maybe some one here has used

them and can tell you what type of band they use and if they were

happy w/the results their child received.

> > > Thanks for replying . Nick was dx with moderate positional

> > plagio. They

> > > don't use the term DOC band here, but it is similar in

> > construction. They

> > > just call it a plagio helmet.

> > >

> > > Joanne

> > > Re: how round is round enough?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I am in exactly the same boat as Matt and with

> > > > (except she's going on 11 months old). We were just told at

her

> > > > fitting last night that she only has 6 weeks of room left in

her

> > > > band. That would bring the total wear time to just under 4.5

> > months.

> > > > We've seen drastic improvement in head shape, so-so

improvement in

> > > > ear alignment, and I don't think the facial asymmetry was ever

> > that

> > > > big of an issue for us.

> > > > >

> > > > > She was severe when it all started. Not sure what they

think

> > > > she is now, but we still have 6 weeks to go. We're still

waiting

> > for

> > > > our United HealthCare to pay the bill. It was submitted to

them in

> > > > July! As with everyone on this list, we've had our share of

stress

> > > > and so has .

> > > > >

> > > > > So...do we press on for a more perfect head or do we

let her

> > > > be? I'm not so much worried about the cosmetic side anymore.

The

> > only

> > > > thing I worry about is jaw/teeth/ear problems later. Have we

done

> > > > enough?

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm sure this is a dilemma we all face. When is it time

to

> > be

> > > > done with it all? CT isn't going to tell us which way to go.

Of

> > > > course, that's our decision.

> > > > >

> > > > > Like Matt and , we're curious what you think

about a

> > > > second band.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kerri & baby (Chicago)

> > > > >

> > > > > For more plagio info, go to

www.plagiocephaly.org/support

> > > > >

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I don't know if it's a passive band. It is designed to put slight pressure

on his right forehead(it protrudes). However, it is constantly shifting and

we have to reposition it! Nick gets adjustments every 2-3 weeks. Does that

sound right?

Joanne

Re: how round is round enough?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am in exactly the same boat as Matt and with

> > > (except she's going on 11 months old). We were just told at her

> > > fitting last night that she only has 6 weeks of room left in her

> > > band. That would bring the total wear time to just under 4.5

> months.

> > > We've seen drastic improvement in head shape, so-so improvement in

> > > ear alignment, and I don't think the facial asymmetry was ever

> that

> > > big of an issue for us.

> > > >

> > > > She was severe when it all started. Not sure what they think

> > > she is now, but we still have 6 weeks to go. We're still waiting

> for

> > > our United HealthCare to pay the bill. It was submitted to them in

> > > July! As with everyone on this list, we've had our share of stress

> > > and so has .

> > > >

> > > > So...do we press on for a more perfect head or do we let her

> > > be? I'm not so much worried about the cosmetic side anymore. The

> only

> > > thing I worry about is jaw/teeth/ear problems later. Have we done

> > > enough?

> > > >

> > > > I'm sure this is a dilemma we all face. When is it time to

> be

> > > done with it all? CT isn't going to tell us which way to go. Of

> > > course, that's our decision.

> > > >

> > > > Like Matt and , we're curious what you think about a

> > > second band.

> > > >

> > > > Kerri & baby (Chicago)

> > > >

> > > > For more plagio info

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Oops!!

Nick's band should constantly be shifting

IT SHOULD NOT CONSTANTLY SHIFT!

Sorry about that.

> > > > > > Hi All!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't post much, but read every message I receive. I

just

> > > > > received some upsetting news about my son (11

> months). He

> > > has

> > > > > been in a band for 4 months with some correction. The OT

who

> took

> > > > > over his case says his ears will never be aligned and that

he

> has

> > > > > only 2 more months of band therapy. She also says they

never

> do

> > > > > second bands!! HELP!!!! Of course, I want to hear his ears

> will

> > > > > align, but she saying they won't move at all. What are your

> > > > > experiences? I live in BC, Canada. The only CT clinic I

know

> of

> > > is in

> > > > > Calgary...but if needed I'll take him there!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Joanne &

> > > > > > Re: how round is round enough?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am in exactly the same boat as Matt and with

>

> > > > > (except she's going on 11 months old). We were just told at

> her

> > > > > fitting last night that she only has 6 weeks of room left

in

> her

> > > > > band. That would bring the total wear time to just under 4.5

> > > months.

> > > > > We've seen drastic improvement in head shape, so-so

> improvement in

> > > > > ear alignment, and I don't think the facial asymmetry was

ever

> > > that

> > > > > big of an issue for us.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She was severe when it all started. Not sure what

they

> think

> > > > > she is now, but we still have 6 weeks to go. We're still

> waiting

> > > for

> > > > > our United HealthCare to pay the bill. It was submitted to

> them in

> > > > > July! As with everyone on this list, we've had our share of

> stress

> > > > > and so has .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So...do we press on for a more perfect head or do we

> let her

> > > > > be? I'm not so much worried about the cosmetic side

anymore.

> The

> > > only

> > > > > thing I worry about is jaw/teeth/ear problems later. Have

we

> done

> > > > > enough?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm sure this is a dilemma we all face. When is it

time

> to

> > > be

> > > > > done with it all? CT isn't going to tell us which way to

go.

> Of

> > > > > course, that's our decision.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like Matt and , we're curious what you think

> about a

> > > > > second band.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kerri & baby (Chicago)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For more plagio info, go to

> www.plagiocephaly.org/support

> > > > > >

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Nick goes to a place called Valley Orthocare. I am thinking about taking him

to CT in Calgary though!

Joanne

Re: how round is round enough?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am in exactly the same boat as Matt and with

>

> > > > > (except she's going on 11 months old). We were just told at

> her

> > > > > fitting last night that she only has 6 weeks of room left in

> her

> > > > > band. That would bring the total wear time to just under 4.5

> > > months.

> > > > > We've seen drastic improvement in head shape, so-so

> improvement in

> > > > > ear alignment, and I don't think the facial asymmetry was ever

> > > that

> > > > > big of an issue for us.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She was severe when it all started. Not sure what they

> think

> > > > > she is now, but we still have 6 weeks to go. We're still

> waiting

> > > for

> > > > > our United HealthCare to pay the bill. It was submitted to

> them in

> > > > > July! As with everyone on this list, we've had our share of

> stress

> > > > > and so has .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So...do we press on for a more perfect head or do we

> let her

> > > > > be? I'm not so much worried about the cosmetic side anymore.

> The

> > > only

> > > > > thing I worry about is jaw/teeth/ear problems later. Have we

> done

> > > > > enough?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm sure this is a dilemma we all face. When is it time

> to

> > > be

> > > > > done with it all? CT isn't going to tell us which way to go.

> Of

> > > > > course, that's our decision.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like Matt and , we're curious what you think

> about a

> > > > > second band.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kerri & baby (Chicago)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For more plagio info, go to

> www.plagiocephaly.org/support

> > > > > >

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Joanne,

Maybe you should send a post with Valley Orthocare as the subject

line. Ask if anyone has used them and what their experience was.

Like I said before, you really don't have anything to lose by taking

him for a second opinion at CT.

> > > > > > > Hi All!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't post much, but read every message I receive. I

just

> > > > > > received some upsetting news about my son (11

> > months). He

> > > > has

> > > > > > been in a band for 4 months with some correction. The OT

who

> > took

> > > > > > over his case says his ears will never be aligned and

that he

> > has

> > > > > > only 2 more months of band therapy. She also says they

never

> > do

> > > > > > second bands!! HELP!!!! Of course, I want to hear his ears

> > will

> > > > > > align, but she saying they won't move at all. What are

your

> > > > > > experiences? I live in BC, Canada. The only CT clinic I

know

> > of

> > > > is in

> > > > > > Calgary...but if needed I'll take him there!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Joanne &

> > > > > > > Re: how round is round enough?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am in exactly the same boat as Matt and

with

> >

> > > > > > (except she's going on 11 months old). We were just told

at

> > her

> > > > > > fitting last night that she only has 6 weeks of room left

in

> > her

> > > > > > band. That would bring the total wear time to just under

4.5

> > > > months.

> > > > > > We've seen drastic improvement in head shape, so-so

> > improvement in

> > > > > > ear alignment, and I don't think the facial asymmetry was

ever

> > > > that

> > > > > > big of an issue for us.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She was severe when it all started. Not sure what

they

> > think

> > > > > > she is now, but we still have 6 weeks to go. We're still

> > waiting

> > > > for

> > > > > > our United HealthCare to pay the bill. It was submitted to

> > them in

> > > > > > July! As with everyone on this list, we've had our share

of

> > stress

> > > > > > and so has .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So...do we press on for a more perfect head or do we

> > let her

> > > > > > be? I'm not so much worried about the cosmetic side

anymore.

> > The

> > > > only

> > > > > > thing I worry about is jaw/teeth/ear problems later. Have

we

> > done

> > > > > > enough?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm sure this is a dilemma we all face. When is it

time

> > to

> > > > be

> > > > > > done with it all? CT isn't going to tell us which way to

go.

> > Of

> > > > > > course, that's our decision.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Like Matt and , we're curious what you think

> > about a

> > > > > > second band.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kerri & baby (Chicago)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For more plagio info, go to

> > www.plagiocephaly.org/support

> > > > > > >

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Dawn

Welcome Kansanite!!!!! Good for you for investigating all you can. Your son is very lucky to have such a concerned mom. Yes, my son is Lucas. There are two dates because he has been banded twice. He had no improvement in the first band and since we have a very experienced othrotist we did not think that was the reason. It could very well be that the first band was "defective" in some way. After 4 months of basically no change he was banded again. We never stopped wearing it, there was just no improvement. I hope this all makes sense. I apologize if not, we have been laying carpet ALL day and I am exhausted. Please feel free to ask me any questions. I know all there are others on the list would be glad to help too. You will be amazed at the support you will find here, it is AWESOME. Once again,

To

Hi ,Technically, I live in Olathe. However, I live off K-10 in Cedar Creek and it was annexed into Olathe so you might not be thinking that is the Olathe area. My husband and I own and operate a horse barn in Lenexa which is about a 1 1/2 miles from our house. Is it your son, Lucas, who is banded? Since I am new to this and not familiar with all of the terminology, why do you have two dates listed four months apart? Did Lucas wear the band, graduate, and then have to go back to wearing it? Dawn> > Hi Dawn- I am a new member too and also have a 3 month old w/tort and > plagio. > > I am going to find out about the helmet also- where do you live? Good luck > > with everything- this board and the tort board has been so amazing and > > helpful. > > > > > For more plagio info

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I just hope we don't have to go back to the hospital any time soon. I really wonder if she didn't have it last week but it just didn't come back as positive. She is active and playful as ever. She has always been a good sleeper and even when she was sick was sleeping through the night so that's an extra bonus.

Taryn and

Indiana

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Taryn-How scary!!! I'm glad that you at least found outwhat's going on. I hope she feels better soon and inthe meantime make sure to rest when she rests - a sickbaby takes so much out of you!mom to Vivian

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> Thanks, !

> What a good idea! I know this man has a computer in his office,

> seeing how he's a plastic surgeon and all (you know they have them

so

> they can test drive the end results of certain procedures with

their

> patients) Sooo... we'll see. DH says 'you get to do all the

> talking... you did your homework, honey, I'm proud of you' well,

> hmmn... guess I just have to grow some guts by tomorrow

afternoon...

I have faith in you!! You can do it! Would you be nice to an adult

that just grabbed T's arm and screamed at him? NO, so just do it!

Dustie, mom to , DOCband 12/23/02

> lol... at least he'll be there to encourage me. i just have to

> educate him on what the strategy is, I guess.

>

>

> Tiernan's mama

> charleston, sc

>

> > -

> > Don't doubt those mommy instincts. They are rarely wrong! Hope

> all

> > goes well with your appointment on Friday!

> > I assume you are taking the band with you. If you want, print up

a

> > picture of a baby in a band which fits properly to show the dr.

> The

> > difference is quite obvious. You are more than welcome to take

one

> > of Dane's pictures with you from his photo album.

> >

> > Dane's mom DOC Grad

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I guess as

I started researching things more, I felt that the DOC band might be the better

way to go since it is FDA approved and it’s such a widely used device (i.e.

more research, more outcomes, more standardization, etc.). Additionally, the DOC bands seem to be

a little more efficient in the correction. It turned out that our out-of-pocket expense with our

insurance was the exact same so we’re having him casted again today for the DOC. I spoke with the orthotist already (he’s

a member of this group) and he was a huge help. I can only hope that I’m doing the right thing here. I know that there’s also been lots of

successful experiences with locally made helmets but as many in the group have

indicated, in those cases, it all depends upon the experience of your orthotist. I also like the fact that the DOC is

open at the top. The locally made

helmet would have been a full head helmet. My little one is a warm little guy to begin with so I liked

the idea of having ventilation for his little headJ

Thank you

for remembering and asking!!! BTW,

I looked at Dane’s pics this morning…what a cutie!!!

-----Original

Message-----

From: rmanias <rmanias@...>

[mailto:rmanias@...]

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003

7:29 AM

Plagiocephaly

Subject: Re: Makenna was

casted!! to

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Lanham "

<susan@l...>

wrote:

> Long story short, we are now switching to the DOC band and he will

be

> measured tomorrow and should get it sometime next week.

Wow ! I noticed that you were toying with this idea

yesterday. What made you change your mind?

He was already casted for the local helmet, wasn't he?

What kind of drive will you and JD have?

Dane's mom DOC Grad

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--- In Plagiocephaly , " Lanham " <susan@l...> I

also like the fact that

> the DOC is open at the top.

-

This was a big plus for us too! I'm sure it would have been really

hot under a full helmet in Houston!

That is great that your insurance will cover it! Hooray!

Thanks on the compliments for Dane! I think he's a cutie too!

Dane's mom DOC Grad

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Hi , thanks for the support. Hows the little one doing??, I

would love to hear. Well,today was horrible when they called me up

and told me I was denied again, I had a lot of mixed emotions, I

think it's just not fair. I will keep on trying and I will go through

all the appeals till no more, but I won't speak or present any cases

I will just tell them, to just put me present in the books,like you

said they migh have their minds made up already anyway. The reason I

will do this, it's because the insurance department want you to go

through all the appeals before you can file a complaint with them.

I'll keep on trying. I think I'll do it, not so much for the money,

but for all the babies in need of this treatment. Maybe someday they

realize it.

Thanks

mommy of (7 months)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Lanham " <susan@l...>

wrote:

> ,

>

> I'm so sorry to hear that. I know you worked really hard to

appeal. Did

> they even pay attention yesterday? It almost seems as though they

had their

> minds made up and just went through the motions. Ughh!

>

> Please know that your time was not wasted. The more cases that are

brought

> up, the more they're going to have to listen. If no one says

anything, they

> 'll never even consider that there's a need here. So, pat yourself

on the

> back!

>

> & JD (DOCband since 2/26)

> TX

>

>

>

> After all!! Denied !!!

>

>

> Hello Friends:

> They just called me, and again they denied me for the same reason !!

> Investigational/experimental! How frustrating!! I want to scream,

> I'm sooooooo dissapointed. I hope one of those Dr. have a baby with

> plagio so they can understand where are we coming from. :0(

> mommy of (7 Months)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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,

Thanks for

asking about JD. He’s been in the

helmet for 8 days now and he’s tolerating it really well. My dh and I swear that we’ve already

seen a change in his head…there is a bulge at the flat spot! We’re so geeked about it! We have so much faith that this is

going to work that I don’t mind him wearing it at all. The only thing I miss is kissing his

precious head but I keep kissing him all over anywayJ

I commend

you to keep trying to appeal and keep pressing them…even if just for the

principle, like you said.

’s

band is vacationing in FL right now, right? Have you heard anything yet? I guess it won’t be back until next week. Keep me posted.

Hugs,

& JD

-----Original

Message-----

From: dolphin33020 [mailto:dolphin33020@...]

Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003

3:33 PM

Plagiocephaly

Subject: Re: to

Hi , thanks for the support. Hows the little one doing??, I

would love to hear. Well,today was horrible when they called me up

and told me I was denied again, I had a lot of mixed emotions, I

think it's just not fair. I will keep on trying and I will go through

all the appeals till no more, but I won't speak or present any cases

I will just tell them, to just put me present in the books,like you

said they migh have their minds made up already anyway. The reason I

will do this, it's because the insurance department want you to go

through all the appeals before you can file a complaint with them.

I'll keep on trying. I think I'll do it, not so much for the money,

but for all the babies in need of this treatment. Maybe someday they

realize it.

Thanks

mommy of (7 months)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Lanham "

<susan@l...>

wrote:

> ,

>

> I'm so sorry to hear that. I know you worked really hard to

appeal. Did

> they even pay attention yesterday? It almost seems as though

they

had their

> minds made up and just went through the motions. Ughh!

>

> Please know that your time was not wasted. The more cases that

are

brought

> up, the more they're going to have to listen. If no one says

anything, they

> 'll never even consider that there's a need here. So, pat

yourself

on the

> back!

>

> & JD (DOCband since 2/26)

> TX

>

>

>

> After all!! Denied !!!

>

>

> Hello Friends:

> They just called me, and again they denied me for the same reason !!

> Investigational/experimental! How frustrating!! I want to scream,

> I'm sooooooo dissapointed. I hope one of those Dr. have a baby

with

> plagio so they can understand where are we coming from. :0(

> mommy of (7 Months)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hard to say . Aidan is older and so he has been rolling for a long time. I really don't think that the band is heavy enough to hinder him though, probably just going to take some time to get used to it.

I hope that you already see improvement. I haven't yet but my husband says he can see change. Only 2 weeks today. His headsicle will be there for our next appt so I hope I can see a difference. Natasha

sricks1@... wrote:

HI Natasha.Jake is doing well, thanks for asking. He still doesn't seem to even know it's on. We go to CT tomorrow for our 1 week checkup. I hesitate to say this, but I really think I see some improvement already. I give Jake a bath in the morning so DH doesn't get to see him without his band on until the weekends when he is off. I can't wait for him to see Jake without it on Saturday to see if he notices any change. Anway, the only problem I'm having with Jake so far is that he just started to roll onto his stomach in his sleep. Well, once he gets on his stomach, he can't figure out how to get on his back again. He rolls over all the time during the day, but I'm afraid that he can't see with the helmet on in the crib. Or does the helmet have anything to do with it at all? I just feel sorry for him when I go into his room and he's on his stomach, crying, trying to flip back over. I just hope it's not because of the helmet. Anyway, he did this about 5 times last night..ugh! Any suggestions?

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Is sleeping any better in the band?

Natasha

dolphin33020 <dolphin33020@...> wrote:

Thank God, and thank you is really nice to hear that they will get used to it, right now she starting to accomodate to it, but boy! it was hard the first couple of days, I was so scare.I hope she really gets use to it.Thanks a bunch mommy of (8 months) 03/25/02 > > > > Thank you Debbie, I took it off, just in case. Debbie, I'm worry, > > what am I gonna do if she doesn't get used to? > mommy of > ( 8 months)

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She is 8 months old, and she is trying to pull the velcro off, We

live in South Florida, Fort Lauderdale, so, she is always in really

cool clothes. Thank for the reply

> -

> How old is ?

> We didn't have any issues with Dane removing the band. He loved

the

> thing! But, a few parents have had a lot of success with putting a

> barette over the velcro to keep it in place.

> I know you said she isn't sweating, but do you have her dressed

> lightly?

>

> Dane's mom DOC Grad

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> She is 8 months old, and she is trying to pull the velcro off

-

Some babies like to pull the velcro because of the noise. Is she

doing that or actively trying to remove the band?

Hopefully the barette will do the trick :)

Dane's mom DOC Grad

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,

I hear ya! Had I not seen actual pics of repo success stories, I would never have believed it could happen! But, there have been some successes out there, and I think the key with repo is to realize the sooner you start, the better the outcome, to know when to say its not working for you (weekly pictures are great!), while still in a good window of opportunity for treatment with a cranial molding device. I felt so rushed to just make the decision to band for that reason, we had the dx of tort at 2 mnths, and even tho we were never told to repo, we knew to do it and by 4 mnths, it only got worse, and even then, my Doc didn't want to band- I had to insist! I had to make that decision based on how unsuccessful we were in the past two months, and had the great opportunity of listening to parents that were farther along that seemed to keep saying, I wish I hadn't listened to my doctor and trusted my own instincts. It really helped me make that decision at a good time. In hindsight, I would say that a couple of factors worked against us- he was in daycare, obvious that we were not in total control of his repo-they tried. Also, as much as you'd like to hold your baby 24/7, there is no feasible way that life stops and some fairy will let you sit there holding your child while you have to do all those things that keep your house clean and livable among other things in life! Even the 1/2 hour in a swing, or 1/2 hour in the car, all worked against us by the time his head had taken its shape- gravity pulls that head to the flat spot quicker than you can turn around. I give hats off to anyone that can be successful at repo because I know (as most everyone here does!) how hard it is to win that battle! But the key again is to know when to hold up the white flag and surrender and say "help my baby!"

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ATA just started an incredible sale. I can go from Chicago to Seattle for

$90!!!

Just type ATA in your browser. If ATA doesn't go where you want, try Southwest

Airlines.

And while they are advertising low fares, I'm just not ready for Hooters

Airlines!!! I thought it was a joke at first!

Dix

Re: [ ] To From Sheri

Hi Sheri. Thanks for emailing me. Anyways I didn't find ANY cheap tickets all

of them are so expensive aghhhhhhhhhh it makes me so pissed off. I tried

priceline but they are asking way to much, I feel like pulling my hair out right

now.

Sheri <sheri02cats@...> wrote:Hey girl! How are you doing? Any luck

with plane tickets?

I've been thinking about you.

It gets rough at times for all of us. I've been on vacation this

week, so now I have to go back to work tomorrow. I dread it so bad,

but I have to pay the bills somehow.

Hope to talk to you soon.

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,

I'm a very passionate gardener. Years ago, it was veggies and some flowers.

Now I buy the veggies at the farm stand, and grow roses and flowers. Last year

I decided that I could no longer go on with the size of the gardens I had, and

would have them rototilled under (after digging up what I wanted to keep) and

just have a couple smaller islands and a small border.

I've spent so much time with this new downsized plan that I had to get some

help with it - and it's not done yet!

What type of gardening are you into?

Dix

Re: [ ] To From Sheri

I'm 45 with a computer science background, the mother of three children who

are 20, 17, and 12, and I've been divorced for three years. In addition to the

time I spend here online and offline researching, I am a news junkie, enjoy

gardening, and have a couple of other volunteer projects on the side related to

adult literacy and medicine.

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LMAO Hooters Airlines that is too funny :)

Dixie <dix7chix@...> wrote: ATA just started an incredible sale. I

can go from Chicago to Seattle for $90!!!

Just type ATA in your browser. If ATA doesn't go where you want, try Southwest

Airlines.

And while they are advertising low fares, I'm just not ready for Hooters

Airlines!!! I thought it was a joke at first!

Dix

Re: [ ] To From Sheri

Hi Sheri. Thanks for emailing me. Anyways I didn't find ANY cheap tickets all

of them are so expensive aghhhhhhhhhh it makes me so pissed off. I tried

priceline but they are asking way to much, I feel like pulling my hair out right

now.

Sheri <sheri02cats@...> wrote:Hey girl! How are you doing? Any luck

with plane tickets?

I've been thinking about you.

It gets rough at times for all of us. I've been on vacation this

week, so now I have to go back to work tomorrow. I dread it so bad,

but I have to pay the bills somehow.

Hope to talk to you soon.

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Funny, but true! They have ads on TV, and the stewardesses are all Hooter girls

and wear shorts and low cut t-shirts. My husband goes into hysterics every time

they show the ad!

Re: [ ] To From Sheri

Hi Sheri. Thanks for emailing me. Anyways I didn't find ANY cheap tickets

all of them are so expensive aghhhhhhhhhh it makes me so pissed off. I tried

priceline but they are asking way to much, I feel like pulling my hair out right

now.

Sheri <sheri02cats@...> wrote:Hey girl! How are you doing? Any luck

with plane tickets?

I've been thinking about you.

It gets rough at times for all of us. I've been on vacation this

week, so now I have to go back to work tomorrow. I dread it so bad,

but I have to pay the bills somehow.

Hope to talk to you soon.

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Hi, Dix! I don't really have a specialty, I just love being out there.

One of my goals is to continue to reduce the amount of grass and replace

it with perennials. I do a lot of experimentation with different plants.

The rabbits and other critters dictate what I can grow and it's nearly a

full time job catching and relocating them. They are so destructive.

Call me Mrs. McGregor.

Unfortunately, I haven't been doing too much gardening this season yet,

but I'm hoping that will change very soon. I miss it, and my largest bed

looks like a jungle at the moment.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] To

> ,

> I'm a very passionate gardener. Years ago, it was veggies and

some flowers. Now I buy the veggies at the farm stand, and grow roses

and flowers. Last year I decided that I could no longer go on with the

size of the gardens I had, and would have them rototilled under (after

digging up what I wanted to keep) and just have a couple smaller islands

and a small border.

> I've spent so much time with this new downsized plan that I had to

get some help with it - and it's not done yet!

> What type of gardening are you into?

> Dix

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