Re: choice of carrier oils

[Guest guest]

jojoba is a wax, which makes it last MUCH longer, both on the shelf and on the

body. other carrier oils have medicinal properties and/or different lubricating

qualities. (i would suggest you refer to better sources for those properties

i.e., one of julia lawless' books or the myrid of others (i just happen to fancy

her referrence books-- nice to look at, easily referrenced.. plus coated so when

you spill, say 4 oz of grain alcohol on it, you can wipe it off. you know...

HYPOTHETICALLY speaking. *ahem*)

i can't speak to tincturing... anyone? anyone?

[Guest guest]

Jojoba oil has a very long shelf life, that means it doesn't go rancid fast.

Sweet almond and other oils tend to go rancid and spoil your perfume. My

favorite other oil with a long shelf life that is also dry and light oil is

Fractionated Coconut Oil. This is not at all as regular coconut oil, no

coconut smell, not semi solid because of how it is made. FCO is a lot less

expensive.

For infusions I personally prefer a mixture 50-50 of these 2 oils.

HTH

Irina

[Guest guest]

> Hi - I was wondering if anyone could share some thoughts on the pros and cons

of various oils - both as carriers and oils for infusing.

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> Jojoba is the most expensive oil (where I live anyway), but am I right in

thinking it's the most popular oil for natural perfumery purposes?

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> What is it about it that makes it superior?

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> I can get sweet almond oil for a lower price - but is it going to give

inferior results or cause problems? If so, in what ways?

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> And what about Apricot oil?

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> I've been infusing in jojoba oil this year and am not sure what would happen

if I switched to a different oil, and whether it would be worth it for the money

savings.

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> A long time ago (like about 15 years ago!) I experimented with some infusions

with Apricot oil, but I can't remember it well enough at all to compare with the

jojoba oil!

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> Thanks for any advice or wisdom.

>

> Johanna

>

Hi Johanna....

A lot of people use Fractionated Coconut Oil....Less expensive then

jojoba....

The other (sweet almond, etc.) oils have differing characteristics

individually....As a general rule they do have limited shelf life, that

is, they go rancid...

Jojoba and FCO are your options if you want long life pretty much....

Care....

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W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

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[Guest guest]

I'm wondering if anyone has ever used moringa oil, AKA ben oil, as a carrier

oil?

 

 

 

Alfred

[Guest guest]

yes, but only in massage appication.

[Guest guest]

I use Neobee M-5COS. That is a blend of coconut oil and palm oil.

The advantage of this blend is, it does not peroxidize. And it is 100% natural.

All other vegetable oils will become ranzid after a while.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for the replies - that's super helpful. Shelf life is an

important factor to be in control of! I suppose also, that if you were

buying one of the oils with a shorter shelf life from a supplier you didn't

know, you might end up with one that was starting to go rancid already ...

So does the fractionation(?) process extend the shelf life of coconut oil,

as well as deodorise it? Like, if I just bought deodorised (but not

fractionated) coconut oil, it still would have a lower shelf life?

I also have some lovely smelling, organic, cold-pressed coconut oil that I

use in cooking sometimes. I was wondering about using this product as an

infusion oil, to have the coconut fragrance in there deliberately.

Looking it up on the net and on the side of the container, it looks like the

shelf-life would only be about 1.5 or 2 years, but maybe worth it!

Interested to hear from anyone else who has had good (or bad) results with

this.

Thanks very, very much. I really appreciate the help.

Best wishes

Johanna

http://wildpicnic.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

>

> yes, but only in massage appication.

>

Hi Ein, Folks....

Fractionated Coconut Oil has worked well not only as an oil for

extracting essences, but a number of folks base their oil-based perfumes

on it...Because...it doesn't go rancid..

It's prevalence, as well as it's reasonable price, is due to it's use in

the massage industry...It will wash out of linens, etc...

It is far more versatile than just massage oil...and it keeps almost

forever...

Jojoba, as someone else pointed out, is technically a wax...But most

people think of it as a carrier oil....

BTW....their are basically two kinds of jojoba....natural and bleached...

Have some of each, but no real experience with jojoba....I keep on using

the FCO....

Care.....

--

W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite

[Guest guest]

I have not. I'm more simplistic in choice and choose long shelf life oils and

add vitamin e and roe depending on what I'm making. Have to consider the over

all combination and interactions. I've not had the pleasure to see this oil and

will soon look at its properties.

I've so few absolutes and concentrates its hard for me to experiment with

alcohol. The 'old school' was if you had dry skin, oil based , oily skin,

alcohol based. But with alcohol evaporates so I've chosen to purchase the oval

type bottles from Edens , 8.5 mls and will use oils until such time I can build

my stock of oils to include alcohol. Most of mine are resin based and in a 

solid form as well.

I should look this oil up eh?

evie

[Guest guest]

I've blended both oils with success. I tend to be more of a base note resinous

blender so that serves me very well. I like that I can do a body oil and and

hours later a subtle waft of scent releases with my body temp without blasting

anyone . Rule of thumb, if you can smell your own perfume? You are wearing

toooooooo much. I do use jojoba and frac alone or in a blend. So far  one bottle

I did a year go has simply gotten better. That said, I have trouble with top

notes sticking.

evie

[Guest guest]

I would go with Neobee

[Guest guest]

danke udo,

 

but neobee is not going to be readily known to a lot of people on here... can

you give us more info on what it is and how to obtain it? *grin*

 

much respect, einsof

[Guest guest]

for those who use a large amount of it -- a great source of jojoba in the US is

Desert Whale in Tucson AZ.

cheers~

crystal

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