Doctor's comments

[Guest guest]

I don't get it. Why do people put themselves through this angst? Why not

just find a doctor who actually wants his customers to be healthy? Find a

doctor who is not reimbursed by the HMOs according to how high his vax rate

is. Why not hire a Naturopath physician as your pediatrician? What is this

love affair with the MD?

At any rate, if folks are deadset on having an MD, there are MDs who are not

condescending and do as their customer wishes without all the " your child

will die " stuff. But of course, as with anything worthwhile, it requires

effort from the parent to locate such an MD.

Call Mothering Magazine

Ask for referrals from health food stores and direct entry midwives

www.ACAM.org

www.healthmall.com

www.alternativemedicine.com

www.healthy.net

[Guest guest]

I got JoAnne's permission to forward this to the group. Would like

some answers for her Dr. Rebuttal.

Thanks

The following is an e-mail I sent to our Pediatrician and his

response. Can

anyone give me some good comebacks to this. I'm so sick of his

ignorance and

" I'm never wrong " attitude.

Dr. Bahan,

Could you please read this and forward it to your assistant. I

understand

where you guys are coming from but to give me the cold shoulder

because I

care so much for my kids and am trying to do what's best for them is

wrong.

Until any of you have walked a mile in my shoes, you'll never

understand the

pain and heartache we've all been through. Since has a much

higher

chance of developing autism, how can I not take every measure to

prevent

this. She may be getting her vaccines slower than other children but

at least

she is getting them. I have talked to so many Pediatricians,

Anesthesiologists, and other doctors who also have children with

Autism. They

all agree that we're giving too many vaccines to these tiny infants

whose

immune system isn't fully developed yet. I don't take this subject

lightly

and do nothing but research everything before I make my decisions. I

blindly

gave Hunter all his vaccines and in doing this injected him with so

much

mercury that if he does indeed have a defect in metallothionein

proteins that

we talked about, then his body had no way to eliminate it. Why is Dr.

Holmes

having such a high success rate? She was actually the one to tell me

to go

get 's Hib shot immediately and she believes she should have

all of her

vaccines, including the MMR (separately) but to just space them out.

I beg

you to both read the following because it sums it all up.

* I sent the speech from Dr. Yazbak*

Sincerely,

JoAnne Pike

Here's his reply:

I appologize for anything that Trilla may have said which was

offensive,

and I sympathize with your pain, that is why I attempt to follow your

wishes

unless it is something that truly clashes with my ethical duties.

Unfortunately, you continue to believe unreliable sources and

completely

rebute every credible bit of science. Some of your sources are well

meaning

but misguided by what is turning into the religion or autism and the

evils

of everything. Others, such as many of the labs are less than

ethical in

that they perform test that they know are less than credible. But let

me

answer some of Dr. Yazbak's auestion. By the way, he is the only

pediatric

infectious disease specialist I have ever heard with this view, and I

know

many. It is safe to say that he is in the <1%of pediatricians and

subspecialist with this view.

1. 6 children per day because the california has a high birth rate.

2. everybody looks at autism seriously. Like most mental diseases

it is

difficult to study.

3. The fda follows the CDC, AAP, AMA ,and every other physician

organization in promoting vaccinations they follow our recomendations.

4.Most vaccines take at least 10 years to approve. Lice shampoos

tend to

use a known toxic chemical called lidane which if absorbed can be

catastrophic

5.epidemics are reported when they occur. strep pneumo has been a

problem

for 30 years.

6.all vaccines undergo extensive safety studies similiar to any new

medication.the final stage of the rotavirus study took 4 years.

7. all medication studies are financed by the company making the

drug.

these studies are strictly controled by the FAA and are usually

perfomed at

major medical centers by the top phisicians in the field such as

MUSC, DUKE,

MAYO CLINIC

8.By definition, the safety studies are made to show that a

vaccine does

not cause any illness.

9. We only give vaccines together that we prove work equally well

together. the reason is obvious...fewer injections and the children

get

protected sooner.

10. to prevent epidemics. By the way, there are very few if any live

vaccines used anymore

11. This is the question which shows the most ignorance. The immune

system

gets a bigger workout sucking on the pacifier that fell on the floor

than

from an immunization. Immunizations trigger a natural response in

the body

in a natural way so that the immune system will recognize the

offending

agent when seen. Maybe it would be better to let the children catch

pertussis and if they live they will be immune.

12.because it is much more cost effective to repeat the vaccination.

in

addition, many of theose 95% will lose immunity by 20 and will need a

repeat

anyway. That is why in about 1990 we started giving the second MMR.

13. Because we are trying to prevent children from getting life

threating

illnesses.

14. We don't have any new immune diseases. The numbers have been

compatable

for decades.

15. We have proved again and again that they don't cause Autism.

How many

times to we have to prove the earth is round.

16. there still is no addequate treatment for Autism. A better

question is

why tdon't those who proport to have the answere perform a randomized

trial

instead of depending on testimonial which are historically inaccurate

....remember laitril

Think about these as you read . I hope all goes well with

Marc

--- End forwarded message ---

[Guest guest]

How about just; " Please forward my records to [insert new doctor] "

S.

Hjfasufi@... wrote:

> I got JoAnne's permission to forward this to the group. Would like

> some answers for her Dr. Rebuttal.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> The following is an e-mail I sent to our Pediatrician and his

> response. Can

> anyone give me some good comebacks to this. I'm so sick of his

> ignorance and

> " I'm never wrong " attitude.

>

> Dr. Bahan,

>

> Could you please read this and forward it to your assistant. I

> understand

> where you guys are coming from but to give me the cold shoulder

> because I

> care so much for my kids and am trying to do what's best for them is

> wrong.

> Until any of you have walked a mile in my shoes, you'll never

> understand the

> pain and heartache we've all been through. Since has a much

> higher

> chance of developing autism, how can I not take every measure to

> prevent

> this. She may be getting her vaccines slower than other children but

> at least

> she is getting them. I have talked to so many Pediatricians,

> Anesthesiologists, and other doctors who also have children with

> Autism. They

> all agree that we're giving too many vaccines to these tiny infants

> whose

> immune system isn't fully developed yet. I don't take this subject

> lightly

> and do nothing but research everything before I make my decisions. I

> blindly

> gave Hunter all his vaccines and in doing this injected him with so

> much

> mercury that if he does indeed have a defect in metallothionein

> proteins that

> we talked about, then his body had no way to eliminate it. Why is Dr.

> Holmes

> having such a high success rate? She was actually the one to tell me

> to go

> get 's Hib shot immediately and she believes she should have

> all of her

> vaccines, including the MMR (separately) but to just space them out.

> I beg

> you to both read the following because it sums it all up.

> * I sent the speech from Dr. Yazbak*

> Sincerely,

> JoAnne Pike

>

> Here's his reply:

>

> I appologize for anything that Trilla may have said which was

> offensive,

> and I sympathize with your pain, that is why I attempt to follow your

> wishes

> unless it is something that truly clashes with my ethical duties.

> Unfortunately, you continue to believe unreliable sources and

> completely

> rebute every credible bit of science. Some of your sources are well

> meaning

> but misguided by what is turning into the religion or autism and the

> evils

> of everything. Others, such as many of the labs are less than

> ethical in

> that they perform test that they know are less than credible. But let

> me

> answer some of Dr. Yazbak's auestion. By the way, he is the only

> pediatric

> infectious disease specialist I have ever heard with this view, and I

> know

> many. It is safe to say that he is in the <1%of pediatricians and

> subspecialist with this view.

>

> 1. 6 children per day because the california has a high birth rate.

>

> 2. everybody looks at autism seriously. Like most mental diseases

> it is

> difficult to study.

> 3. The fda follows the CDC, AAP, AMA ,and every other physician

> organization in promoting vaccinations they follow our recomendations.

>

> 4.Most vaccines take at least 10 years to approve. Lice shampoos

> tend to

> use a known toxic chemical called lidane which if absorbed can be

> catastrophic

> 5.epidemics are reported when they occur. strep pneumo has been a

> problem

> for 30 years.

> 6.all vaccines undergo extensive safety studies similiar to any new

>

> medication.the final stage of the rotavirus study took 4 years.

> 7. all medication studies are financed by the company making the

> drug.

> these studies are strictly controled by the FAA and are usually

> perfomed at

> major medical centers by the top phisicians in the field such as

> MUSC, DUKE,

> MAYO CLINIC

> 8.By definition, the safety studies are made to show that a

> vaccine does

> not cause any illness.

> 9. We only give vaccines together that we prove work equally well

> together. the reason is obvious...fewer injections and the children

> get

> protected sooner.

> 10. to prevent epidemics. By the way, there are very few if any live

>

> vaccines used anymore

> 11. This is the question which shows the most ignorance. The immune

> system

> gets a bigger workout sucking on the pacifier that fell on the floor

> than

> from an immunization. Immunizations trigger a natural response in

> the body

> in a natural way so that the immune system will recognize the

> offending

> agent when seen. Maybe it would be better to let the children catch

> pertussis and if they live they will be immune.

> 12.because it is much more cost effective to repeat the vaccination.

> in

> addition, many of theose 95% will lose immunity by 20 and will need a

> repeat

> anyway. That is why in about 1990 we started giving the second MMR.

> 13. Because we are trying to prevent children from getting life

> threating

> illnesses.

> 14. We don't have any new immune diseases. The numbers have been

> compatable

> for decades.

> 15. We have proved again and again that they don't cause Autism.

> How many

> times to we have to prove the earth is round.

> 16. there still is no addequate treatment for Autism. A better

> question is

> why tdon't those who proport to have the answere perform a randomized

> trial

> instead of depending on testimonial which are historically inaccurate

> ...remember laitril

>

> Think about these as you read . I hope all goes well with

> Marc

> --- End forwarded message ---

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, hi

" Early retirement " is not the same as being " unable to work due to.... "

So, since your last doc appt. was Jan 5, start communicating with your

doc by Fax. Start with requesting a letter stating something like this:

" is unable to work due to the following symptoms (list them here)

from progressive CMT. She is unable to work any longer because of an

inability to (and list all the PHYSICAL tasks you can no longer do) " .

Your doc (and you) may or may not find info to help in this site

http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/greenbook/

Remember, when it comes down to SSDI, all they care about is YOU ARE

UNABLE TO WORK and WHY. Sorry I cannot help with your employer issue, but I am

only intuiting that being " unable to work " will fly better than " early

retirement " . " Early Retirement " sort of sounds like you're going off to Jamaica

to pursue your love of sailing - lol - but I think you know what I mean.

~ Gretchen