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" Can't we agree at least to be neutral when it comes to religion? "

I can't agree to be neutral on religion, Greg. I'm as

strong/committed/grateful a Christian as you are NOT one. Can't we just

agree to be who we are? How about that, bro?

The Whole Truth

Nothing But the Truth

So Help Me God...

_____

From: Autism_in_Girls

[mailto:Autism_in_Girls ] On Behalf Of Greg Reich

Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:20 PM

To: Autism_in_Girls

Subject: Re: knock

Hey, I'm all about humor and stress relief, but I don't think the intention

of the email was to be humorous, and autism itself affects people of all

religions and no religion. Can't we agree at least to be neutral when it

comes to religion?

Marie A wrote:

There are some " silly " off topic emails sent here, but that's part of what I

like about this group is that you can relax here & send some off topic stuff

to provide some " comic relief " some of the time. If I don't want to read

it, I just delete. I like the more relaxed atmosphere of this group,

although, personally I don't like chain emails from anyone most of the

time. Life isn't all about autism b/c we're in it for the long haul. I'm

still TRYING not to let autism dominate my whole life.

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Amen, . I don't know why anyone would complain.oh, wait. Yes, I do. ;-)

The Whole Truth

Nothing But the Truth

So Help Me God...

_____

From: Autism_in_Girls

[mailto:Autism_in_Girls ] On Behalf Of West

Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:48 PM

To: Autism_in_Girls

Subject: Re: knock

Hi Guys

It was pretty obvious in the first line it was a religious thing so I am

guessing everyone knew how to use the delete button. It was never intended

to offend anyone so again my apologies for any offense but no apologies for

my faith or being a christian.

There are some " silly " off topic emails sent here, but that's part of what I

like about this group is that you can relax here & send some off topic stuff

to provide some " comic relief " some of the time. If I don't want to read

it, I just delete. I like the more relaxed atmosphere of this group,

although, personally I don't like chain emails from anyone most of the

time. Life isn't all about autism b/c we're in it for the long haul. I'm

still TRYING not to let autism dominate my whole life.

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Amen, . I don't know why anyone would complain.oh, wait. Yes, I do. ;-)

The Whole Truth

Nothing But the Truth

So Help Me God...

_____

From: Autism_in_Girls

[mailto:Autism_in_Girls ] On Behalf Of West

Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:48 PM

To: Autism_in_Girls

Subject: Re: knock

Hi Guys

It was pretty obvious in the first line it was a religious thing so I am

guessing everyone knew how to use the delete button. It was never intended

to offend anyone so again my apologies for any offense but no apologies for

my faith or being a christian.

There are some " silly " off topic emails sent here, but that's part of what I

like about this group is that you can relax here & send some off topic stuff

to provide some " comic relief " some of the time. If I don't want to read

it, I just delete. I like the more relaxed atmosphere of this group,

although, personally I don't like chain emails from anyone most of the

time. Life isn't all about autism b/c we're in it for the long haul. I'm

still TRYING not to let autism dominate my whole life.

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Amen, . I don't know why anyone would complain.oh, wait. Yes, I do. ;-)

The Whole Truth

Nothing But the Truth

So Help Me God...

_____

From: Autism_in_Girls

[mailto:Autism_in_Girls ] On Behalf Of West

Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:48 PM

To: Autism_in_Girls

Subject: Re: knock

Hi Guys

It was pretty obvious in the first line it was a religious thing so I am

guessing everyone knew how to use the delete button. It was never intended

to offend anyone so again my apologies for any offense but no apologies for

my faith or being a christian.

There are some " silly " off topic emails sent here, but that's part of what I

like about this group is that you can relax here & send some off topic stuff

to provide some " comic relief " some of the time. If I don't want to read

it, I just delete. I like the more relaxed atmosphere of this group,

although, personally I don't like chain emails from anyone most of the

time. Life isn't all about autism b/c we're in it for the long haul. I'm

still TRYING not to let autism dominate my whole life.

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Nods head.. Yes we do lol

 

There are some " silly " off topic emails sent here, but that's part of what I

like about this group is that you can relax here & send some off topic stuff

to provide some " comic relief " some of the time. If I don't want to read

it, I just delete. I like the more relaxed atmosphere of this group,

although, personally I don't like chain emails from anyone most of the

time. Life isn't all about autism b/c we're in it for the long haul. I'm

still TRYING not to let autism dominate my whole life.

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Nods head.. Yes we do lol

 

There are some " silly " off topic emails sent here, but that's part of what I

like about this group is that you can relax here & send some off topic stuff

to provide some " comic relief " some of the time. If I don't want to read

it, I just delete. I like the more relaxed atmosphere of this group,

although, personally I don't like chain emails from anyone most of the

time. Life isn't all about autism b/c we're in it for the long haul. I'm

still TRYING not to let autism dominate my whole life.

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Nods head.. Yes we do lol

 

There are some " silly " off topic emails sent here, but that's part of what I

like about this group is that you can relax here & send some off topic stuff

to provide some " comic relief " some of the time. If I don't want to read

it, I just delete. I like the more relaxed atmosphere of this group,

although, personally I don't like chain emails from anyone most of the

time. Life isn't all about autism b/c we're in it for the long haul. I'm

still TRYING not to let autism dominate my whole life.

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Hi Greg

 

I too didnt join this list for religion but because I am the mom of 2 kids with

Autism. But I take heart in knowing others here understand what I am going

through. My being a Christian is part of who I am. I have strong faith and it

helps me through the hard times. I understand having a scotch is probably more

acceptable but I personally find a greater comfort in my faith and knowing

others are praying for me and mine as I do for everyone on my ASD lists. Even

the non Christians get prayed for I dont discriminate. Just as ASD doesnt

discriminate. Just as one therapy works for one child with ASD doesnt mean it

works for all and as a society we need to accept we are each Unique. Plus no

where did it say your ordered by the government not to delete this message.

Again thats free will.

 

Knock, Knock I knocked at heaven's door this morning. God asked me...'My child,

what can I do for you?' And I said, 'Father, please protect and bless the person

reading this message.' God smiled and answered...' Request granted'.

If you believe, send this to seven people and the one who sent it to you. By

doing this, you have succeeded in praying for eight people today. 'Be kinder

than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

' THIS IS PRETTY NEAT. 93 % won't forward this?

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Hi Greg

 

I too didnt join this list for religion but because I am the mom of 2 kids with

Autism. But I take heart in knowing others here understand what I am going

through. My being a Christian is part of who I am. I have strong faith and it

helps me through the hard times. I understand having a scotch is probably more

acceptable but I personally find a greater comfort in my faith and knowing

others are praying for me and mine as I do for everyone on my ASD lists. Even

the non Christians get prayed for I dont discriminate. Just as ASD doesnt

discriminate. Just as one therapy works for one child with ASD doesnt mean it

works for all and as a society we need to accept we are each Unique. Plus no

where did it say your ordered by the government not to delete this message.

Again thats free will.

 

Knock, Knock I knocked at heaven's door this morning. God asked me...'My child,

what can I do for you?' And I said, 'Father, please protect and bless the person

reading this message.' God smiled and answered...' Request granted'.

If you believe, send this to seven people and the one who sent it to you. By

doing this, you have succeeded in praying for eight people today. 'Be kinder

than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

' THIS IS PRETTY NEAT. 93 % won't forward this?

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It has not been to cure my autism but it has helped heal my broken soul

form life.... also I to not feel anyone here forced any religion on

anyones , in so doing that would mean they are of arguing and insisting

you bleive their way and this person did not they simply sended

something they found that they in thems own beings maybe related to in

their life at the moment and wanted of to share/

religion is not set to cure any man but to free them from the things

that bind them.

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Thankyou Sondra

 

I strongly agree.

 

 

Subject: Re: knock

To: Autism_in_Girls

Received: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 9:21 AM

It has not been to cure my autism but it has helped heal my broken soul

form life.... also I to not feel anyone here forced any religion on

anyones , in so doing that would mean they are of arguing and insisting

you bleive their way and this person did not they simply sended

something they found that they in thems own beings maybe related to in

their life at the moment and wanted of to share/

religion is not set to cure any man but to free them from the things

that bind them.

sondra

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http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset

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Thankyou Sondra

 

I strongly agree.

 

 

Subject: Re: knock

To: Autism_in_Girls

Received: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 9:21 AM

It has not been to cure my autism but it has helped heal my broken soul

form life.... also I to not feel anyone here forced any religion on

anyones , in so doing that would mean they are of arguing and insisting

you bleive their way and this person did not they simply sended

something they found that they in thems own beings maybe related to in

their life at the moment and wanted of to share/

religion is not set to cure any man but to free them from the things

that bind them.

sondra

Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7.

http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset

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Thankyou Sondra

 

I strongly agree.

 

 

Subject: Re: knock

To: Autism_in_Girls

Received: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 9:21 AM

It has not been to cure my autism but it has helped heal my broken soul

form life.... also I to not feel anyone here forced any religion on

anyones , in so doing that would mean they are of arguing and insisting

you bleive their way and this person did not they simply sended

something they found that they in thems own beings maybe related to in

their life at the moment and wanted of to share/

religion is not set to cure any man but to free them from the things

that bind them.

sondra

Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7.

http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset

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If i wasnt a christian, i don't know how i would have survived raising

hannah.....then once i accepted that hannah had autism, a few years later my

eldest was diagnosed with insulin dependant diabetes, and celiac disease. yes,

God and i had some serious talks, i have screamed and ranted at Him, asking Him,

why? and as each day goes on, i grow stronger and i discover that if we take

little steps, these ultimately help us to understand how unique our kids

are....... here is my group.. http://groups.msn.com/ChristianPeopleFamilies

we debate on everything.

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: mrs_westyofoz@...: Sun, 31

Aug 2008 16:20:23 -0700Subject: Re: knock

Hi Greg I too didnt join this list for religion but because I am the mom of 2

kids with Autism. But I take heart in knowing others here understand what I am

going through. My being a Christian is part of who I am. I have strong faith and

it helps me through the hard times. I understand having a scotch is probably

more acceptable but I personally find a greater comfort in my faith and knowing

others are praying for me and mine as I do for everyone on my ASD lists. Even

the non Christians get prayed for I dont discriminate. Just as ASD doesnt

discriminate. Just as one therapy works for one child with ASD doesnt mean it

works for all and as a society we need to accept we are each Unique. Plus no

where did it say your ordered by the government not to delete this message.

Again thats free will. Knock, Knock I

knocked at heaven's door this morning. God asked me...'My child, what can I do

for you?' And I said, 'Father, please protect and bless the person reading this

message.' God smiled and answered...' Request granted'. If you believe, send

this to seven people and the one who sent it to you. By doing this, you have

succeeded in praying for eight people today. 'Be kinder than necessary, for

everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.' THIS IS PRETTY NEAT. 93 %

won't forward this?

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Amen ...well said.

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: mrs_westyofoz@...: Sun, 31

Aug 2008 15:43:16 -0700Subject: Re: knock

I do not know of Prayer curing Autism but I do know it taught me acceptance and

it helped me to deal with a life changing event so I will name names ME.

West Faith and God helps Relaxing a bit

and cutting ur listmates a break helps too Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Amen ...well said.

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: mrs_westyofoz@...: Sun, 31

Aug 2008 15:43:16 -0700Subject: Re: knock

I do not know of Prayer curing Autism but I do know it taught me acceptance and

it helped me to deal with a life changing event so I will name names ME.

West Faith and God helps Relaxing a bit

and cutting ur listmates a break helps too Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Amen ...well said.

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: mrs_westyofoz@...: Sun, 31

Aug 2008 15:43:16 -0700Subject: Re: knock

I do not know of Prayer curing Autism but I do know it taught me acceptance and

it helped me to deal with a life changing event so I will name names ME.

West Faith and God helps Relaxing a bit

and cutting ur listmates a break helps too Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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oh come on guys....how many times do you get a message your not interested in

and you delete it? we all get them, those who are christians enjoy getting

little boosts, just as other religions enjoy their beliefs.

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: mrs_westyofoz@...: Sun, 31

Aug 2008 15:35:46 -0700Subject: Re: knock

Eeeek sorry guys if I knew it would cause this much drama I would never of sent

it. To me as a Christian it was a way of saying I pray for my online friends.

Not trying to get people into churchs or preach my belief's. I do believe each

to there own. Sorry again it was about saying I care not what church do you

attend. > Faith and God helps> Relaxing a bit and

cutting ur listmates a break helps too> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile>>

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oh come on guys....how many times do you get a message your not interested in

and you delete it? we all get them, those who are christians enjoy getting

little boosts, just as other religions enjoy their beliefs.

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: mrs_westyofoz@...: Sun, 31

Aug 2008 15:35:46 -0700Subject: Re: knock

Eeeek sorry guys if I knew it would cause this much drama I would never of sent

it. To me as a Christian it was a way of saying I pray for my online friends.

Not trying to get people into churchs or preach my belief's. I do believe each

to there own. Sorry again it was about saying I care not what church do you

attend. > Faith and God helps> Relaxing a bit and

cutting ur listmates a break helps too> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile>>

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oh come on guys....how many times do you get a message your not interested in

and you delete it? we all get them, those who are christians enjoy getting

little boosts, just as other religions enjoy their beliefs.

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: mrs_westyofoz@...: Sun, 31

Aug 2008 15:35:46 -0700Subject: Re: knock

Eeeek sorry guys if I knew it would cause this much drama I would never of sent

it. To me as a Christian it was a way of saying I pray for my online friends.

Not trying to get people into churchs or preach my belief's. I do believe each

to there own. Sorry again it was about saying I care not what church do you

attend. > Faith and God helps> Relaxing a bit and

cutting ur listmates a break helps too> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile>>

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This is exactly why these kinds of topics are generally off limits on

discussion groups of a specific topic, such as Autism.

No one wants to let it go, one side is offended and says something, the

other side feels they need to defend and replies, and no one wants to let

the other side have the last word, so it just keeps going on and on and on

and on and on and on.

Your right, it's not a forum for liberal propoganda, but neither is it a

forum for Religious propaganda in anyway shape or form.

Everyone has overlooked and let go someone saying God bless at the end of

their emails, or one another telling the other they will pray for them etc.

But when something is sent as pure religious email and then pointing out the

fact that you are somehow not a good christian if you don't pass it on

(which of course just makes this a chain letter and not something that is

just sent to say, hey I care about ya'll) It's gonna ruffle feathers, and

because this is not outlined in any rules as permitted or not permitted,

each side has a right to debate their opinions without being told to 'let it

go'

If you get to have your say, why is it that Kassi and others can't have

theirs?

>

> Let it go, Kassi. Let.it.go. This isn't a forum for Liberal propaganda.

> Let

> it go already.

>

> The Whole Truth

> Nothing But the Truth

> So Help Me God...

>

> _____

>

> From: Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>]

> On Behalf Of Kassi

> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:06 PM

> To: Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: RE: knock

>

> Really?

>

> Where've you been? The war on science in schools? The politicians who think

> athiests are automatically not patriots? The charming man in kansas who'd

> like nonchristians rounded up? The regular death threats on PZ Meyers?

>

>

> > > Faith and God helps

> > > Relaxing a bit and cutting ur listmates a break helps

> > too

> > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> > >

> > >

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This is exactly why these kinds of topics are generally off limits on

discussion groups of a specific topic, such as Autism.

No one wants to let it go, one side is offended and says something, the

other side feels they need to defend and replies, and no one wants to let

the other side have the last word, so it just keeps going on and on and on

and on and on and on.

Your right, it's not a forum for liberal propoganda, but neither is it a

forum for Religious propaganda in anyway shape or form.

Everyone has overlooked and let go someone saying God bless at the end of

their emails, or one another telling the other they will pray for them etc.

But when something is sent as pure religious email and then pointing out the

fact that you are somehow not a good christian if you don't pass it on

(which of course just makes this a chain letter and not something that is

just sent to say, hey I care about ya'll) It's gonna ruffle feathers, and

because this is not outlined in any rules as permitted or not permitted,

each side has a right to debate their opinions without being told to 'let it

go'

If you get to have your say, why is it that Kassi and others can't have

theirs?

>

> Let it go, Kassi. Let.it.go. This isn't a forum for Liberal propaganda.

> Let

> it go already.

>

> The Whole Truth

> Nothing But the Truth

> So Help Me God...

>

> _____

>

> From: Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>]

> On Behalf Of Kassi

> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:06 PM

> To: Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: RE: knock

>

> Really?

>

> Where've you been? The war on science in schools? The politicians who think

> athiests are automatically not patriots? The charming man in kansas who'd

> like nonchristians rounded up? The regular death threats on PZ Meyers?

>

>

> > > Faith and God helps

> > > Relaxing a bit and cutting ur listmates a break helps

> > too

> > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> > >

> > >

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This is exactly why these kinds of topics are generally off limits on

discussion groups of a specific topic, such as Autism.

No one wants to let it go, one side is offended and says something, the

other side feels they need to defend and replies, and no one wants to let

the other side have the last word, so it just keeps going on and on and on

and on and on and on.

Your right, it's not a forum for liberal propoganda, but neither is it a

forum for Religious propaganda in anyway shape or form.

Everyone has overlooked and let go someone saying God bless at the end of

their emails, or one another telling the other they will pray for them etc.

But when something is sent as pure religious email and then pointing out the

fact that you are somehow not a good christian if you don't pass it on

(which of course just makes this a chain letter and not something that is

just sent to say, hey I care about ya'll) It's gonna ruffle feathers, and

because this is not outlined in any rules as permitted or not permitted,

each side has a right to debate their opinions without being told to 'let it

go'

If you get to have your say, why is it that Kassi and others can't have

theirs?

>

> Let it go, Kassi. Let.it.go. This isn't a forum for Liberal propaganda.

> Let

> it go already.

>

> The Whole Truth

> Nothing But the Truth

> So Help Me God...

>

> _____

>

> From: Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>]

> On Behalf Of Kassi

> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:06 PM

> To: Autism_in_Girls <Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: RE: knock

>

> Really?

>

> Where've you been? The war on science in schools? The politicians who think

> athiests are automatically not patriots? The charming man in kansas who'd

> like nonchristians rounded up? The regular death threats on PZ Meyers?

>

>

> > > Faith and God helps

> > > Relaxing a bit and cutting ur listmates a break helps

> > too

> > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> > >

> > >

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Hi Cheryl I think every honest person on this list and looked to Heavan and

screamed why me? Funny how we say me , rather than my child. I used to get so

angry my ex sisterinlaw drank smoked ate rubbish food when pregnant and has 6

healthy kids. Me I followed every rule didnt drink smoke eat bad foods gained

the right weight etc etc breast fed everything they said to do to have a healthy

child. I had a stillborn son , a preemie son a daughter with a heart problem a

son with Aspergers Immune Deficiencies heart issues and his list goes on. And

through my faith I have come to realise God dont make mistakes if my sister in

law had had any my kids they would be in state care or worse. God picks special

parents for special kids and to me it seems He doesnt mind if you choose not to

acknowledge Him for He loves you and your kids anyway. In no way am I saying I

am special , I dont feel no more special than anyone else. But my kids are

special and if it means me

parenting them in a special way then so be it.

 

I know without my faith I would probably be dealing with it at the bottom of a

wine glass. But thats just me.

 

Knock, Knock I knocked at heaven's door this morning.

God asked me...'My child, what can I do for you?' And I said, 'Father, please

protect and bless the person reading this message.' God smiled and answered...'

Request granted'. If you believe, send this to seven people and the one who sent

it to you. By doing this, you have succeeded in praying for eight people today.

'Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of

battle.' THIS IS PRETTY NEAT. 93 % won't forward this? [Non-text portions of

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Hi Cheryl I think every honest person on this list and looked to Heavan and

screamed why me? Funny how we say me , rather than my child. I used to get so

angry my ex sisterinlaw drank smoked ate rubbish food when pregnant and has 6

healthy kids. Me I followed every rule didnt drink smoke eat bad foods gained

the right weight etc etc breast fed everything they said to do to have a healthy

child. I had a stillborn son , a preemie son a daughter with a heart problem a

son with Aspergers Immune Deficiencies heart issues and his list goes on. And

through my faith I have come to realise God dont make mistakes if my sister in

law had had any my kids they would be in state care or worse. God picks special

parents for special kids and to me it seems He doesnt mind if you choose not to

acknowledge Him for He loves you and your kids anyway. In no way am I saying I

am special , I dont feel no more special than anyone else. But my kids are

special and if it means me

parenting them in a special way then so be it.

 

I know without my faith I would probably be dealing with it at the bottom of a

wine glass. But thats just me.

 

Knock, Knock I knocked at heaven's door this morning.

God asked me...'My child, what can I do for you?' And I said, 'Father, please

protect and bless the person reading this message.' God smiled and answered...'

Request granted'. If you believe, send this to seven people and the one who sent

it to you. By doing this, you have succeeded in praying for eight people today.

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