Odds of mold toxicity symptoms being reversible.............

[Guest guest]

Now that I had developed significant Multiple Chemical sensitivities

taht kicked in hard about 2 weeks ago and are persistent, the places

for a " new residence " (rental or ownership) have virtually a similar

environment as I have now,,,,,seems the " pot pourii " and other

fragrances wipe me out(eyes burn/nose and throat burn), as do many

carpets. Curious....seems like many/most tile(linoleum) floors are

put down with a glue type base....can that also be an issue?. My

question....since the mold/carpet sensitivity is now 24/7, I

question whether or not my moving to a cleaner air enviro. would

allow me to REVERSE my current un-healthy symptoms, as the main

issue here is that my immune system is out of whack. I may not get

worse....but how many of " us " actually have a complete reversal of

symptoms from bad to good? Also, I had hoped that the temp falling

and getting colder would help a lot, but even with humidity now

below 50, I still have burning eyes/throat....and I turned off the

air purifier in bedroom, as it was not helping much(symptoms would

worsen in summer, but it really isn't any " better " in colder

weather. Plus, my heart gets speeded up in my house, with occasional

chest " aches " that move around. If I could only get tested to

determind CONCLUSIVELY(accurately) taht it is mold OR that it is an

allergy(from carpet fumes)! Thanks for comments about reversing

symptoms. Steve

[Guest guest]

Steve,

For starters, NO ONE gets better if they stay in an unhealthy

environment, whether it is manmade chemicals or natural makes no

difference. As far as reversing what has gone on with you system,

that all depends on what has messed it up, how good your immune

system was prior to your exposure, the longer you stay in a

contaminated situation the less likely of you getting back to pre-

exposure condition.

I will only speak for myself (and what I have been told from many in

the field that treat these type of conditions.) In my opinion, I

have yet to meet anyone or hear of anyone that has made a " complete "

recovery. We can (and do) each reach certain levels to where we are

feeling better, get back to a somewhat " normal " life again and

actually feel as if we have licked this, that is until our next hit.

How that effects you depends on alot of things also, how long you

have been out of the contamination, how much permanent organ damage

was done, how soon you were able to start with a doctors protocol of

detoxing, your age and yes even your sex(male/female, let's not get

funny here folks) has alot to do with it.

Since you are not sure what is making you ill I would do a little

experiment, with the assistance of a friend or family member, remove

the carpeting in one room, windows open to help air it out,

naturally run the air purifier afterwards. After a couple of days of

airing out, go back into the room and see if some of your symptoms

lessen, stay in there a bit. Naturally it probably will not be

immediate, it may be just a small change, but it may be enough to

lead you in the direction you need to go.

I would advise anyone before they go running for the hills (out of

their home that is) first find out what you are running from. It may

be something as simple as removing the all the carpeting or things

of that nature, especially if it turns out to be an allergen vs a

toxin.

No one can give you a 100% for sure answer here. We can all give our

opinions, state what we have done or are doing, but each person has

to deal with their own situation as he/she feels is best for them.

None of us got sick the same way, none of us will recover the same

way. Too many variables in the mix for a complete guarantee.

Sharon

--- In , " shybasset " <shybasset@...>

wrote:

>

> Now that I had developed significant Multiple Chemical

sensitivities

> taht kicked in hard about 2 weeks ago and are persistent, the

places

> for a " new residence " (rental or ownership) have virtually a

similar

> environment as I have now,,,,,seems the " pot pourii " and other

> fragrances wipe me out(eyes burn/nose and throat burn), as do many

> carpets. Curious....seems like many/most tile(linoleum) floors are

> put down with a glue type base....can that also be an issue?. My

> question....since the mold/carpet sensitivity is now 24/7, I

> question whether or not my moving to a cleaner air enviro. would

> allow me to REVERSE my current un-healthy symptoms, as the main

> issue here is that my immune system is out of whack. I may not

get

> worse....but how many of " us " actually have a complete reversal of

> symptoms from bad to good? Also, I had hoped that the temp falling

> and getting colder would help a lot, but even with humidity now

> below 50, I still have burning eyes/throat....and I turned off the

> air purifier in bedroom, as it was not helping much(symptoms would

> worsen in summer, but it really isn't any " better " in colder

> weather. Plus, my heart gets speeded up in my house, with

occasional

> chest " aches " that move around. If I could only get tested to

> determind CONCLUSIVELY(accurately) taht it is mold OR that it is

an

> allergy(from carpet fumes)! Thanks for comments about reversing

> symptoms. Steve

>

[Guest guest]

Steve Buddy,

You have already had your " CONCLUSIVE TEST " . Listen to your body

talking to you. Your " heart getting speeded up " in your house has

tested you " positive " for toxic mold reaction. If it were an

asthma/allergy reaction, you would have to take a " beta-adrenergic "

medicine, such as albuterol, to counteract the histamine that your body

was producing as an allergic reaction to mold. The albuterol medicine

would speed up your heart, since the heart has the same receptors as

the lungs. If you take albuterol,now, for asthma, it would speed up

your heart even more than it is already speeded up. I'm telling you

this, because, if you go to a hospital emergency room and say to

them: " I'm having trouble breathing " , the first thing they will do is

slap a nebulizer mask on your face to give you ALBUTEROL.

Nobody knows whether toxic mold symptoms are completely reversible. All

I can say is that they were completely reversible for ME. But, my

longest mold exposure period was only 2 months. The bad news is, that

your body has now developed a " reaction memory " to mold, and whenever

you are exposed to mold again, in the future, you will get another mold

reaction. The good news is, that, as an intelligent guy who learns from

past experiences, you will have learned, in the future, to run away

form mold environments FASTER, without lingering to " figure out " the

situation first. I was just like you Steve, 7 years ago. I'm no smarter

than you. But, after 7 years, I'm a FASTER RUNNER than you.

If I could only get tested to

> determind CONCLUSIVELY(accurately) taht it is mold OR that it is an

> allergy(from carpet fumes)! Thanks for comments about reversing

> symptoms. Steve

>

[Guest guest]

I had a MAJOR reversal to the point of 80-85% recovered from a chemcial

injury assocaited with the formaldehyde of a cadaver lab.

Was WONDERFUL whil eit lasted until the SOB's known as Nordstroms and

clarins decided to assault me and reversed my recovry to a stage I have

not recovered from.

Leaving the place will help but you ned to detox andsupplment the body

with what it needs, GLASS bottled water, organic food and detox

baths/saunas.

glue if formaldyhde usally and that is a bitch to get rid of.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, shybasset wrote:

> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:21:27 -0000

> From: shybasset <shybasset@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: [] Odds of mold toxicity symptoms being

> " reversible " .............

>

> Now that I had developed significant Multiple Chemical sensitivities

> taht kicked in hard about 2 weeks ago and are persistent, the places

> for a " new residence " (rental or ownership) have virtually a similar

> environment as I have now,,,,,seems the " pot pourii " and other

> fragrances wipe me out(eyes burn/nose and throat burn), as do many

> carpets. Curious....seems like many/most tile(linoleum) floors are

> put down with a glue type base....can that also be an issue?. My

> question....since the mold/carpet sensitivity is now 24/7, I

> question whether or not my moving to a cleaner air enviro. would

> allow me to REVERSE my current un-healthy symptoms, as the main

> issue here is that my immune system is out of whack. I may not get

> worse....but how many of " us " actually have a complete reversal of

> symptoms from bad to good? Also, I had hoped that the temp falling

> and getting colder would help a lot, but even with humidity now

> below 50, I still have burning eyes/throat....and I turned off the

> air purifier in bedroom, as it was not helping much(symptoms would

> worsen in summer, but it really isn't any " better " in colder

> weather. Plus, my heart gets speeded up in my house, with occasional

> chest " aches " that move around. If I could only get tested to

> determind CONCLUSIVELY(accurately) taht it is mold OR that it is an

> allergy(from carpet fumes)! Thanks for comments about reversing

> symptoms. Steve

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I think a good way to look at these toxin exposures is that they steal some

of your life from you. It's like they age you, biologically. Its cumulative.

Also, time is money. Some people have a lot of resources such that they can

afford to just take off from working, etc, for a few years and that doesn't

have much of an impact on them professionally, but for others it's really

damaging, like the kiss of death for any chance they might have to get ahead

in their careers.

This matters more and more as the workplace these days is very competitive

and excuses of what you did with that time just won't cut it. Plus, if you

say you were sick, then you were sick and they won't want you for that

reason.

Many businesses are moving towards not hiring older people anyway because of

healthcare costs.. so to remind them of that potentiality is a very stupid

thing to do in a job interview.

If you are over 35 or so, you really need to look younger and be 100% up on

your field. And be willing to work nights/weekends at crunch time, with no

excuses.

[Guest guest]

Angel, what did Nordstroms do that made you

worse?

--- Angel!! <jap2bemc@...> wrote:

> I had a MAJOR reversal to the point of 80-85%

> recovered from a chemcial

> injury assocaited with the formaldehyde of a

> cadaver lab

[Guest guest]

Had a perfume tester spray me

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, bbw wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:07:03 -0700 (PDT)

> From: bbw <barb1283@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: [] Odds of mold toxicity symptoms being

> " reversible " .............

>

> Angel, what did Nordstroms do that made you

> worse?

>

> --- Angel!! <jap2bemc@...> wrote:

>

>> I had a MAJOR reversal to the point of 80-85%

>> recovered from a chemcial

>> injury assocaited with the formaldehyde of a

>> cadaver lab

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I totally understand. Whenever I go to any of those big stores or malls I

always avoid the cosmetic departments now. Some stores I can't even go into

without getting ill, like Walmarts or often, Targets.