Re: T-2 toxin and Satratoxin

[Guest guest]

Interesting article. Surprised that Stachy is named as source

for ' ' toxins and Fusarum for tricothecene. I thought

tricothecenes was the nastier toxin and stachy was one of the

sources for this toxin.

Also article names the following to deactivate these toxins:

* methanol, (wood alcohol, antifreeze)

* ethanol, (drinking alcohol)

* isopropanol (rubbing alcohol)

* propylene glycol,

* acetone, (nail polish remover)

* ethyl acetate

* chloroform,

* dimethyl sulfoxide

Ammonia is not listed though?? I guess there is conflicting info on

this topic.

--- In , " Branislav " <arealis@...>

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> http://www.cbwinfo.com/Biological/Toxins/T2.html

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> T-2 Toxin:

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> essential data

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[Guest guest]

Below I left a space to put a word and then forgot to insert it.

First sentence was supposed to be:

" Surprised that Stachy is named as source for Satratoxin and Fusarium

for Tricothecenes " ....forgot to put the word Satratoxin.

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> Interesting article. Surprised that Stachy is named as source

> for ' ' toxins and Fusarum for tricothecene. I thought

> tricothecenes was the nastier toxin and stachy was one of the

> sources for this toxin.

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Interesting article. Surprised that Stachy is named as source

> > for ' ' toxins and Fusarum for tricothecene. I thought

> > tricothecenes was the nastier toxin and stachy was one of the

> > sources for this toxin.

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Trichothecene is the general name for a group of mycotoxins produced

by both Stachybotrys and Fusarium as well as a few other molds.

Satratoxin is made by Stachy while T-2 toxin is made by Fusarium.

They are differnt types of trichothecenes, but both are nasty. You

just hear about Stachybotrys more than Fusarium.

Kathyw

[Guest guest]

....so satratoxin is also a tricothecenes, as well as T-2 toxins? I

thought T-2 toxins was an abreviation for tricothecenes, so that

explains it. thanks

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> Trichothecene is the general name for a group of mycotoxins produced

> by both Stachybotrys and Fusarium as well as a few other molds.

> Satratoxin is made by Stachy while T-2 toxin is made by Fusarium.

> They are differnt types of trichothecenes, but both are nasty. You

> just hear about Stachybotrys more than Fusarium.

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> Kathyw

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[Guest guest]

And using those items will exacerbatw the initial exposure...someone who

wrote that article is suffering from what I have coined " sacrao-cranial

inversion " ....lay person description head up their a$$eS

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, barb1283 wrote:

> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:35:28 -0000

> From: barb1283 <barb1283@...>

> Reply-

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> Subject: [] Re: T-2 toxin and Satratoxin

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> Interesting article. Surprised that Stachy is named as source

> for ' ' toxins and Fusarum for tricothecene. I thought

> tricothecenes was the nastier toxin and stachy was one of the

> sources for this toxin.

>

> Also article names the following to deactivate these toxins:

> * methanol, (wood alcohol, antifreeze)

> * ethanol, (drinking alcohol)

> * isopropanol (rubbing alcohol)

> * propylene glycol,

> * acetone, (nail polish remover)

> * ethyl acetate

> * chloroform,

> * dimethyl sulfoxide

>

> Ammonia is not listed though?? I guess there is conflicting info on

> this topic.

>

>

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>> http://www.cbwinfo.com/Biological/Toxins/T2.html

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>> T-2 Toxin:

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>> essential data

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[Guest guest]

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> And using those items will exacerbatw the initial exposure...someone

who

> wrote that article is suffering from what I have coined " sacrao-cranial

> inversion " ....lay person description head up their a$$eS

Angel,

The articles I posted are correct. They were written by two

professionals (PhD) who wanted to describe main properties of

biological weapons. See their " about " page for more info.

(http://www.cbwinfo.com/General/About.html)

Also, I don't see they are talking about using any items again

anywhere in the text. They just gave the general info about these two

toxins. I'm the first to agree that cross-contaminated objects are a

separate problem, and a huge one at that.

Kathy has already explained what Barb thought was a mistake. Namely,

the term " trichothecenes " or " trichothecene mycotoxins " is a general

name for a group of toxins. Both T-2 toxin and Satratoxin belong to

this group. They are both trichothecenes. T-2 toxin is not an

abbreviation for all trichothecenes. It is only one toxin (one

substance). Stachy can produce Satratoxin, while Fusarium can produce

T-2 toxin. I think all trichothecenes have an epoxy ring in their

structure, and that's what makes them so durable and hard to destroy.

Here's the list of trichothecene mycotoxins. I don't know if the list

is complete:

http://www.cbwinfo.com/Biological/Toxins/trichothecene_mycotoxins.htm

And here is the list of some common toxic molds and mycotoxins they

can produce:

http://www.ttuhsc.edu/SOM/Microbiology/mainweb/aiaq/Glossary.html

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know what the range of toxin levels (in roridin A equivalents,

ng/ml, ng/cm2, ng/g etc.) typically found in samples of stachy growing on

moldy drywall is?

Also, is 'old mold' (from drywall that has been alternately wet and dry

inside a wall for years) more toxic than 'new mold' which may have only been

growing on wet drywall for months?

Has anyone ever done a study of this?