Re: Strategy for carpet....last ditch effort to remain.....what are opinions......

October 19, 2006

Steve, if you moved in in the winter, humidity may have been low and

that can make a difference. In summer heat and humidity could have

kicked up the mold growth. If carpeting is moldy, steam cleaning

will not improve. If you want to give a last ditch effort, take

carpet up. Even if only concrete below, that would be better and

easier to keep clean. I've mentioned this so much so maybe seeming

tiresome but my house passed air tests fine but were done in the

winter. I redid tests this past summer on the hottest, most humid

days and mold count came out 'severe' according to lab and a type of

mold I had not picked up before in tests. I talked to IEQ group and

they said attic air comes down into house during the summer cooling

season and to check the attic. I did and there is the mold problem,

so you might want to have air tests done in attic. Perhaps moldy

air is coming down into house from attic. The season and weather

will have an impact on your house. I'm having attic sealed off from

house and cleaned, removing my wall to wall carpeting, have removed

some of it already. Winter air will be better but I'm so sick I'm

not sure I should be in house at all until everything has been

thoroughly cleaned even though wintertime air may feel better to

me. Don't add water to anything moldy. As bad as the environment

is having on you, don't try to save anything as absorbent of toxins

and mold as carpeting. Although I have been sick for a couple of

years, my house kept testing fine, so my actions are delayed due to

not knowing there was still mold problem in house.

Also you could have possibly brought problem in with old carpets

from Goodwill. If I remember correctly you bought ALOT of old

carpets, like 12 or more? I don't know how likely that is but it

certainly is possible that carpets were from very moldy place and

very full of mold spores that when summer humidity climbed in

summer, started to grow making more spores and emitting toxins.

--- In , " shybasset " <shybasset@...>

wrote:

>

> regarding what to do? I'm addressing only the CARPET issue now

October 19, 2006

Don't clean the carpet. I think the carpet cleaner is very bad. My

husband is a carpet installer so I can understand your worries. He is

too old to change professions. So you can't tell if it is the carpet

bothering you. Carpet bothers me when it is very new. I do better

with white carpets that don't have dyes. Of course ceramic tile is

better. Do chemicals seem to smell too strong. I started out with

sinus trouble and then had sinus surgery, but I had to move too soon

after surgery kicking up all the toxins. I remember saying to the

doctor that everything seemed to smell too strong. I even asked if

there was something they could do so I couldn't smell so much, but I

guess it is a protection devise for us with chemical injury to get

out of that area. After a while you learn to detect what is in the

room causing burning, etc. The chest pain is one of the symptoms.

Luckily the doctors did recognize all my problems but some backed out

when it was out of their realm of expertise. Especially the yeast,

many didn't know what to do.

--- In , " shybasset " <shybasset@...>

wrote:

>

> regarding what to do? I'm addressing only the CARPET issue now(wall

> to wall in huge house...27 months old). I had laid 14 rugs(not new)

> from Goodwill on top of NEW carpet after moving in....no problem

for

> first 6 months....then gradual fatigue, no sleep, started and

> progressed to point of spending lots $$$$$$$$ on docs/tests...all

> negative(GI problems were and still are BAD). Lost from 168 down to

> (today 134) most of it in just 7 weeks. OK......some symptoms hit

> then....got worse...took up and threw awy rugs a month ago,

vacummed

> carpet(4 hrs), got expensive new allergen filters for ac/heat, and

> bought $200 hepa/charcoal filter for air purifier(in bedroom, and

> last 2 days have to wear mask.....its on high and not helping like

> it did...it was WORSE when I opened windows 4 days...shouldnt have

> done it...sooooo...WHY did I live in NEW house for 6 months no

> problems???? HOW LONG does it take mold to start, but also HOW

LONG

> does it take CARPET FUMES to start hitting me...heard " gas-off " can

> last 4 yrs.

> Now...one LAST thing to try....your comments please....what about

> (steam) CLEANING the carpets...it will put water in carpets, but

> some people have system that dries it out fast, I guess. Or would

> the steam (or dry) clean NOT be a good idea....make matters

> WORSE???? Please comment on carpet cleaning and what type to use.

> Thanks ps....I had misearble visit with Card doc this am...he

> brushed me off and said he was orried about getting patient with

> chest pains admitted to hosp...WELL, THAT was the reason why bI

went

> to him....chest pains for 6 days!!! Geez, I have NO respect for

> docs!!!(the non enviro ones). Thanks Steve

>

October 19, 2006

It is ridiculous that doctors don't know what to do about yeast! One

of most common infections a person can get.

--- In , " ldelp84227 " <ldelp84227@...>

wrote:

>

> Luckily the doctors did recognize all my problems but some backed

out

> when it was out of their realm of expertise. Especially the yeast,

> many didn't know what to do.

>

October 19, 2006

When I lived for 14 months in a rental with carpeting- I would go to

bed sick for thee days after vacumming- I solved the problem by

covering the carpets totally with plastic- tapping with duct tape

around sides- problem solved- if this is your only problem with the

house this would be a good test-

karen

>

> regarding what to do? I'm addressing only the CARPET issue now

(wall

> to wall in huge house...27 months old). I had laid 14 rugs(not

new)

> from Goodwill on top of NEW carpet after moving in....no problem

for

> first 6 months....then gradual fatigue, no sleep, started and

> progressed to point of spending lots $$$$$$$$ on docs/tests...all

> negative(GI problems were and still are BAD). Lost from 168 down

to

> (today 134) most of it in just 7 weeks. OK......some symptoms hit

> then....got worse...took up and threw awy rugs a month ago,

vacummed

> carpet(4 hrs), got expensive new allergen filters for ac/heat, and

> bought $200 hepa/charcoal filter for air purifier(in bedroom, and

> last 2 days have to wear mask.....its on high and not helping like

> it did...it was WORSE when I opened windows 4 days...shouldnt have

> done it...sooooo...WHY did I live in NEW house for 6 months no

> problems???? HOW LONG does it take mold to start, but also HOW

LONG

> does it take CARPET FUMES to start hitting me...heard " gas-off "

can