Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Posted September 20, 2006 Was it the post about dewpoints? I know about that. Gauges would not give you dewpoint. How long ago was it? I have not been able to read much in the last week since my computer died!!! ....so I have to access email at library, etc until I buy another one. I'm looking at ads for them. --- Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: > If you can look his post up or ask him to > repost it it was VERY interesting. I even > bought a whole weather station to make sure I > was Quote
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Okay. I did read this description by Carl. Thanks. Anyway, I'm not clear if Accu-Rite humidity gauges tell Relative Humidity or Actual Humidity but I thought RH. I thought actual humidity *was* dewpoint but?? Here is link to them. I have this type and like them: Here is link to it: <http://www.natlallergy.com/prod/1526/acu-rite-humidity-monitor-thermometer.html\ > --- Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: > If you want dewpoints you need one of these > weather stations. Look up > www.lacrossetechnology.com/2310 > That is the model I have but they have others > also. Here is the information Mr. Grimes posted > previously. > > We tend to think of relative humidity (RH) as > the amount of moisture > in the air. The more moisture the more humid, > right? But RH isn't > just the amount of moisture, it is actually a > comparison (by > percentage) of the amount of moisture in the > air to the temperature > of the air. That's why it is called " relative " > because the number is > relative to the temperature; it changes with > the temperature. You can > have the same amount of water but a different > RH at a different > temperature. Likewise, you can have the same RH > but the amount of > water vapor will be different at different > temperatures. > > Because... > > Hot air can hold more water than cold air. As > the temperature goes up > the percentage goes down. Likewise, as the air > gets cooler it can > hold less water so the percentage goes up. In > fact, if you cool the > air enough, the percentage will increase to > 100%, which means it > can't hold any more moisture - this is when it > begins to rain. The > temperature where this happens is called the > dew point. Increase the > temperature back above the dew point and it > will stop raining because > the warmer air can now hold the amount of water > vapor that is in the > air. > > The actual amount of water vapor in the air at > any given time is > called the Specific Humidity, because it > doesn't change. It isn't > " relative. " Relative Humidity does change > because it is actually the > comparison of Specific Humidity (amount) to the > temperature. Which > means the only way to directly compare the RH > in two locations is if > both are at the same temperature. > > Which brings us to your house. The temperature > outdoors and indoors > is not the same, so we can't simply compare the > RH of each. > > In fact, 20% RH at 103 degrees calculates to > 70% RH at 64 degrees, a > reasonable temperature for your a/c. > > Because a/c cools the air at the coils to below > the dew point, some > of the moisture will be removed. Without > getting into another > description that is even more complex, just > understand that the 103 > degree air can start with an RH higher than > 20%, have some moisture > removed by the a/c, and you are still at 70% RH > inside. > > On Aug 15 <barb123> posted some excellent > information including an > article written by Dave Dombek at accuweather. > com. (reprinted below). > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > > --------accuweather --------- - > Dew point is simply the saturation point of the > air, or the > temperature to which the air has to be cooled > in order to get > condensation. It is really a true measure of > how much water vapor is > in the air...the higher the dew point, the more > water there is in > the air, and the lower the dew point, the drier > the air mass is. In > the summer, dew point is an excellent tool to > use in determining how > comfortable, or uncomfortable, it feels > outside. Here is a general > summertime guideline for dew points... > > Below 50: very dry > 50-59: comfortable > 60-64: moderately humid > 65-69: humid > 70-79: oppressive > 80 and above: steam bath! > > Now you may be wondering... how does dew point > relate to relative > humidity? Well, the relative humidity is > dependent on the > temperature and the dew point. The closer > together the dew point and > temperature are, the higher the relative > humidity is. The farther > apart they are, the lower the relative humidity > is. Here's an > example of what I mean, and also an > illustration why the term > relative humidity does tell you anything about > how comfortable or > uncomfortable it is outside. > > Let's say we've got a very humid air mass in > place, and the dew > point is 70. It's daybreak, and it's very murky > outside...hazy, and > perhaps even foggy. The grass, car tops, etc. > are all covered with > heavy dew. Let's say the temperature at that > time is 70 degrees. > With a temperature of 70, and a dew point of > 70, the air is > saturated, and the RELATIVE HUMIDITY at that > time is 100%. > > The sun comes up, burns off the fog and > evaporates the dew. There is > no front coming through that day...no air mass > change whatsoever. So, > the air mass will have basically the same > amount of water vapor in > it all day long, i.e., the dew point will stay > close to 70. Now with > the sun out, the air heats up, and the > temperature rises. Let's say > the high temperature that day, around 4pm, is > 90 degrees. At that > time, the hottest part of the day, the RELATIVE > HUMIDITY is only > 50%!!! That doesn't tell the average person > anything about how it > feels outside!!! > > The dew point is a good tool to use all year > long. In the winter > time, the lower the dew point, the drier the > air mass is, and the > more likely precipitation will fall as snow, > even if the temperature > initially is above freezing. That's because the > air temperature will > cool as the precipitation initially evaporates. > > > The heat index is simply a combination of > temperature and dew point, > and how it feels. When the dew point is > relatively low...say in the > low 60s or lower, then the heat index is > basically the temperature. > However, as it gets more humid (higher dew > point), then it feels > hotter than the actual temperature. There > really is something to the > _expression.. . " it's not the heat but the > humidity " . When the > temperature is quite hot, and the dew points > are very high, the heat > index is extremely high. Sometimes the heat > index can go into the > dangerous category of 110 degrees or more. > > The Real Feel Temperature is something we > developed in-house here at > AccuWeather. It takes into consideration other > factors besides just > temperature and dew point. It factors in the > time of day, the sun > angle, and amount of cloud cover, the winds or > lack thereof, etc. > For example, a temperature of 90 and a dew > point of 70 will feel > worse at noon or 1 pm with the sun high in the > sky than it will at 5 > pm or 9 am. Also, a temperature of 90 and a dew > point of 70 will > feel worse when it is dead calm than if there > is === message truncated === Quote
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Posted September 20, 2006 The weather station looks interesting. Dewpoints here in the midwest are 43%, pretty nice right now. --- Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: > Ya, its all confusing to me as well, to beat > all my dad is a meteorologist and I still am > confused..lol > I will go check your link out, thanks. > Chris... > Quote
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Posted September 20, 2006 Any subterranean unheated/unairconditioned dark space will have some mold. It may not be moldy or have as much mold as the interior or exterior or attic space of a house but I have asthma and have yet to locate one in which I can breathe. bbw <barb1283@...> wrote: The weather station looks interesting. Dewpoints here in the midwest are 43%, pretty nice right now. --- Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: > Ya, its all confusing to me as well, to beat > all my dad is a meteorologist and I still am > confused..lol > I will go check your link out, thanks. > Chris... > Quote
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