Re: Mold analysis challange

[Guest guest]

Do you mean one spore of stachy then?

I am going to post my professional testing

results tomorrow. I just found them. They were

taken in winter of 2005.

I think the first number is hypothesized (sp?),

multiplying number of spores found times amount

of space in room, so hypothesis of how much of

that mold probably is in room, so one spore

caught and 64 is stated as hypothesis of amount

of spores PROBABLY in area tested.

--- Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...>

wrote:

> The one in the analysis is .....

> ============================

> In responce to the numbers being low, my

> basement in the contaminated home had 64,

> counts/M³ - 1, Raw data stachybotrys airborne

> and that was more than enough.

> Chris...

>

[Guest guest]

They are protection from hurricans also, right?

I think we head for basement then also.

I twister touched down near my childhood home and

when we heard the weather warnings, we all headed

outside to look at it. lol. However then we

headed down to basement. Even if you only do

that once in awhile, where else would you go, I

guess outside and hug a tree and hope to not be

hit by flying debris.

--- <toriaquilts@...> wrote:

> Amen, Chris! I can't tolerate really moldy

> surroundings either.....but ANYTHING is better

> than being scooped off the face of the earth by

> a twister!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mold grows *on* cinderblock?

That sounds a bit much.

How does it get air/water/nutrients?

[Guest guest]

my understanding is that mold can grow on just about ANY surface.

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

Mold grows *on* cinderblock?

That sounds a bit much.

How does it get air/water/nutrients?

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[Guest guest]

I don't know anything about stachy so hope

someone else has the answer. I think it is

'airborne' easily but probably does sporalate.

Perhaps the spores are heavy or something and not

as easily lifted into the air. Just a guess.

I think Chris's results show one stachy caught

though.

--- Medlin Minnie <medlinminnie@...> wrote:

> ok. i have a question, Chris. If stachy

> doesn't spore, how does it affect us? please

> forgive me as I am just learning.....

>

[Guest guest]

I KNOW...how discouraging!! Well, dust in the

air, clings to rough surface of concrete (like a

thousand window ledges) and mold grows on that.

I have concrete painted now and makes surface

more washable. Water comes from humidity

(basements can be more humid than higher floors)

or leak through cinder block cracks. Cinder

block is really GOOD at holding water that comes

in through cracks into holes in cinder block. A

tree out front put it's roots into cinder block

seeking the water there and then broke the cinder

block more and ruined both front corners of

foundation.

--- LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

> Mold grows *on* cinderblock?

>

> That sounds a bit much.

>

> How does it get air/water/nutrients?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-Im pretty convienced that stachy grows and sporlates depending on its

water sorce. constant water sorce, it will have slime and may not

sporlate much. in a leaking roof where it gets wet/grows with rain and

moisture in the air, than while drying/puts out spores. when completely

dry it becomes air borne with wind, spreads, than next rain comes,

etc. -- In , LiveSimply

<quackadillian@...> wrote:

>

> Okay, here's my cut on this.

>

> Stachybotrys rarely sporulates, so I would guess that having stachy

> show up in any air sample indicates the building has problems.. (and

> not having it show up doesn't indicate that there are not serious or

> unserious stachy problems there, just that the timing of that single

> test didn't catch any sporulating at that time)

>

> ???

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Jeanine,

For the most part I agree. The only exception I know of is inside Sheetrock. I

have a sample that is dry now but even when it was collected out of the inside

of the Sheetrock hiding, it had a dry appearance and was not slimy. The original

test results from that said it was " Loaded " , meaning " Hyphae and fruiting

structures present. " which said " semi-quantitative concentrations were greater

than 100 spores seen on prep "

With that in mind I would say a dry stachy is just as alive as a wet stachy.

Maybe even more lethal because it has the ability to go air borne. (in my case

it did)

Chris...

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

-Im pretty convienced that stachy grows and sporlates depending on its

water sorce. constant water sorce, it will have slime and may not

sporlate much. in a leaking roof where it gets wet/grows with rain and

moisture in the air, than while drying/puts out spores. when completely

dry it becomes air borne with wind, spreads, than next rain comes,

etc. -- In , LiveSimply

<quackadillian@...> wrote:

>

> Okay, here's my cut on this.

>

> Stachybotrys rarely sporulates, so I would guess that having stachy

> show up in any air sample indicates the building has problems.. (and

> not having it show up doesn't indicate that there are not serious or

> unserious stachy problems there, just that the timing of that single

> test didn't catch any sporulating at that time)

>

> ???

>

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[Guest guest]

Because the roof has beenleaking for several years, the garage is very

moldy. I just assume the mold is all over.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> Mold grows *on* cinderblock?

>

> That sounds a bit much.

>

> How does it get air/water/nutrients?

>

[Guest guest]

-was it dry as in gray colored or still black? i know what you mean,

i've never seen stachy in the slime mode in the house, but guessing

that may happen behind the walls where water is running when its

raining heavy. i've only seen it in the form you are talking about

and tape tests done than show the same. than I've seen it get

completely dry and just look gray.most abstracts talk about slime

covered and stachy needing high water sorse, I dont agree with that,

and they also say it doesn't sporalate often because of the slime

cover, I can understand that with a constant water sorce it would do

this but with a leaky roof where water sorce was off and on it did

very well and made me very sick, my illness got more constant as the

stachy infiltrated throughout my home. there is a study by straus

showing stachy (dry) stays toxic for years, and I can relate my

symptoms to at least 1, maybe 2 trichathecene mycotoxins. yes, it's

when it's dry that you inhale it(airborne).later on I than noticed it

growing on the outside sofit of the home after several rainy days,the

rain had stoped and it was still cloudy, it was thick, fuzzy looking

and had a green cast to it. I desided it was a good time to get

pictures.I put on a respirator railroad issued mask that had been

given to me. had the 2 filters on the sides, don't remember the

brand. ugly thing, but was supposed to be a really good one, it does

bring on astha because its hard to breath through, when I got close

up, about 2 feet away i got zapped hard by what I'm positive was

mycotoxins. if you can imagion bees swarming around a bee hive, this

is the picture I got. the rain had quit, the air was calm and the

stachy was starting to dry.also, I've found out sence that this mask

does let some chemical toxins through. -- In

, Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...>

wrote:

>

> Hey Jeanine,

> For the most part I agree. The only exception I know of is inside

Sheetrock. I have a sample that is dry now but even when it was

collected out of the inside of the Sheetrock hiding, it had a dry

appearance and was not slimy. The original test results from that

said it was " Loaded " , meaning " Hyphae and fruiting structures

present. " which said " semi-quantitative concentrations were greater

than 100 spores seen on prep "

> With that in mind I would say a dry stachy is just as alive as a

wet stachy. Maybe even more lethal because it has the ability to go

air borne. (in my case it did)

> Chris...

>

> who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

> -Im pretty convienced that stachy grows and sporlates

depending on its

> water sorce. constant water sorce, it will have slime and may not

> sporlate much. in a leaking roof where it gets wet/grows with rain

and

> moisture in the air, than while drying/puts out spores. when

completely

> dry it becomes air borne with wind, spreads, than next rain comes,

> etc. -- In , LiveSimply

> <quackadillian@> wrote:

> >

> > Okay, here's my cut on this.

> >

> > Stachybotrys rarely sporulates, so I would guess that having

stachy

> > show up in any air sample indicates the building has problems..

(and

> > not having it show up doesn't indicate that there are not serious

or

> > unserious stachy problems there, just that the timing of that

single

> > test didn't catch any sporulating at that time)

> >

> > ???

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

i've never been in or near a hurricane, but i wouldn't think so.....hurricanes

cause MASSIVE flooding--i sure wouldn't wanta be in a basement while that's goin

on, lol! depends on the part of the country you're in, what kind of storms you

have.

we do have minimal flooding here from time to time--but not in my area. what we

DO have? is tornadoes--which is why i'll always have a basement, or at least a

partial one. " hug a tree? " not me! trees are uprooted, too.... & houses,

barns, & more are, too.

take care,

v.

Re: [] Mold analysis challange

They are protection from hurricans also, right?

I think we head for basement then also.

I twister touched down near my childhood home and

when we heard the weather warnings, we all headed

outside to look at it. lol. However then we

headed down to basement. Even if you only do

that once in awhile, where else would you go, I

guess outside and hug a tree and hope to not be

hit by flying debris.

--- <toriaquilts@...> wrote:

> Amen, Chris! I can't tolerate really moldy

> surroundings either.....but ANYTHING is better

> than being scooped off the face of the earth by

> a twister!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Duh, okay, I see your point. I live on hilltop

and we have bad electical storms, I was calling

hurricane but probably that is mainly on the

coastlines. There would be no flooding where I

am up unless the Ohio River rose about 300 feet.

--- <toriaquilts@...> wrote:

> i've never been in or near a hurricane, but i

> wouldn't think so.....hurricanes cause MASSIVE

> flooding--i sure wouldn't wanta be in a

> basement while that's goin on, lol! depends on

> the part of the country you're in, what kind of

> storms you have.

>

[Guest guest]

LOL, knock on wood when you say that Barb, you never know these days... LOL

Chris...

bbw <barb1283@...> wrote:

Duh, okay, I see your point. I live on hilltop

and we have bad electical storms, I was calling

hurricane but probably that is mainly on the

coastlines. There would be no flooding where I

am up unless the Ohio River rose about 300 feet.

--- <toriaquilts@...> wrote:

> i've never been in or near a hurricane, but i

> wouldn't think so.....hurricanes cause MASSIVE

> flooding--i sure wouldn't wanta be in a

> basement while that's goin on, lol! depends on

> the part of the country you're in, what kind of

> storms you have.

>

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