Re: DARLENE=====Carl

[Guest guest]

Darlene,

I have not seen your building or apartment, but from what you

describe, I would say " yes " to everything you suspect. Unfortunately,

in 20 years I have NEVER seen HUD in my area address any of the

accomodation requirements for disability. I have never heard of it

around the country, either. I'm sure it has happened somewhere but I

don't know of it. I've talked with higher level HUD officials

occasionally at conferences and they seemed truly concerned. But that

concern has never resulted in action for my clients.

Because accomodation is the law and they don't follow the law, it

isn't surprising they don't do common sense hygiene practices either.

Like, stop and repair water and sewage leaks. Remove mold. Etc. Or

even the basic of tasks - and legal liability - such as become

familiar with and follow the standards-of-care for their industry and

those for water damage and mold.

I know this doesn't specifically help you but you need to know that

with the treatment you've received so far it would be foolish to rely

on them for your wellfare and health.

If you can't tolerate the conditions you should leave. I know that is

EXTREMELY difficult with HUD housing, so you should carefully

evaluate your options. Including a protest to even higher levels,

especially because you are strong willed. Whatever you do, take care

of yourself first.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> Carl, I live on the 6th floor of a 9 floor building. Now the mycologist

tested

and the molds and deteriorating fiberglass are in my central air/heat both

supply and return ducts. Do you think (i do think this) that my having these in

mine system since it is all the same for the building that this is in all of the

floors system. I know I have seen mold coming out of a lady's duct in her

bedroom and she is on the 7th floor, so my thoughts are it is from the bottom up

through top. This building has had so many water leaks, ceiling tiles in the

hallway of my floor had fell wet soaked and hit me on the shoulder, another time

I had just walked under ceiling tiles that fell down behind me do to pipes

bursting on my same floor. They have buckets down on the first floor catching

water that is dripping from the ceilings down there. Many people have

complained to management that they have mold under carpets, growing up walls,

etc, and management along with the head of

maintenance have told them mold doesn't grow under carpets, and you don't have

any mold. It is a mess. Since I had the mycology test my unit and the results

were given to the entire chain of command right up to HUD, and I have been

yelled at from one in Boston, the manager here on site, she told me i was lucky

to have just had a birthday and turned 50, cause she doesn't rent to under 50

disabled persons, i had remarks made to be even from cleaning personnel

regarding my having it tested since I got sick in Feb 2005 from this. I don't

want to write more of this now, because you would be reading my story all day.

Alot has gone on here, and I am taking the heat for it. I am strong willed, and

I am not shutting up about it, they needed to and still need to re-mediate this

problem. Other people are sick in here too. They have had the report for 2

months.

Thanks for listening to my sounding off, if you have any comments or anyone else

does feel free to reply.

Darlene

[Guest guest]

Darlene,

I agree with Carl 100%. I think many people in this country are

woefully naiive about the real intentions of the people they are

dealing with, and the result of this is a very dangerous situation, as

they don't realize just how far down the road these things end up

going.

Bluntly, Darlene, you could end up getting very sick and the situation

would still never get fixed.

Look out for yourself first, and get out of there. You may think you

'own' something, but the reality is that someone else owns the place

you live and they want you out of there so they can make a lot of

money. The laws are written for them, not you, despite what some

people may tell you. This is a republic, not a democracy, for example,

according to the Supreme Court, there is no right to vote, just to be

(mis?)treated equally..

So, they want poor people out. That property is now worth money. And

they will do whatever it takes to do it even if it ends up hurting

people, lots of people. And the 'government' won't stop it, in fact,

its tacitly approving of it.

This is not the 60s or the 70s, or even the 90s its the 21st century

and poor, working people have less than no influence in the halls of

power.

Everyone here is hoping that the government recognizes mold illness,

which is well and right. But do you all ever think of what will happen

right after that? Millions will be evicted 'for their own safety' and

greedy landlords will use their long lack of responsibility to either

extract lots of money from YOU AND ME so they can 'preserve affordable

housing' with 'only minimal cost increases of 25-200%' or tear many

(thousands, hundreds of thousands?) of buildings down.. buildings they

have been collecting rent on for years IN FULL KNOWLEDGE that they

were DESTROYING people's health.. Creating a national crisis..

Get it, its a gravy train of theivery FOR them and barring some real

change in Washington (NOT likely) you can expect it to just get worse

and worse until this whole mess goes up in flames..

(I'm sure with them all saying 'its for their own good' smugly..)

Sorry everybody.. I wish I was not so cynical but I've had a hard life

and now, thats how I see it.

They lie, we die.

BTW, I wouldn't wish my cynicism on anybody..