Re: Mold Testing - Clarification

[Guest guest]

Thanks Carl. It is truly a confusing issue as we

can see by all the opinions even by such an

intensely interested group educating themselves.

Interestingly I have recently discovered I fall

into the category you mentioned of:

" There is a fungal

infection of X mold and there is Y and Z mold in

the air but no X

mold. "

I have extremely high antibodies to Fusarium on

blood test but in culture dishes and professional

testing done on house only one singular fusarium

caught. It's a mystery.

I get the impression that fusarium is more likely

to be found in the food supply, grains, than

airborne, so I'm wondering if I have an infection

in my gut, or I did, past tense. I think test

tested antibodies that I have built up, not

necessarily due to recent exposure but could be

old exposure.

GI infection of fusarium I read is usually only

in third world countries, but how reliable is

that information. The reading I did on fusarium

was only about an hour though.

--- " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

> Barb1283 and group,

>

> In response to several posts by you and others

> on mold testing

[Guest guest]

I like your thought process and your " detective " methods. Your

knowledge and experience will change with more knowledge and more

experience. That's one of the the reasons, for example, that I never

inspect a building with just one walkthrough. I always go back

through it again and maybe a third time as I gather more information

and make more observations. It is a dynamic process.

The lack of Fusarium could be for many reasons, several of which you

state. Another reason is that your exposure is to dead Fusarium. You

would still develop antibodies but the dead Fusarium would NEVER grow

on a culture plate. And may not be seen amongst all the debris on a

tape lift or cassette. Or be mis-identified. Again, for samples to

have reliable meaning and the best possible results, these types of

variables should enter into a sampling plan before the samples are

taken.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> Thanks Carl. It is truly a confusing issue as we

> can see by all the opinions even by such an

> intensely interested group educating themselves.

>

> Interestingly I have recently discovered I fall

> into the category you mentioned of:

>

> " There is a fungal

> infection of X mold and there is Y and Z mold in

> the air but no X

> mold. "

>

> I have extremely high antibodies to Fusarium on

> blood test but in culture dishes and professional

> testing done on house only one singular fusarium

> caught. It's a mystery.

>

> I get the impression that fusarium is more likely

> to be found in the food supply, grains, than

> airborne, so I'm wondering if I have an infection

> in my gut, or I did, past tense. I think test

> tested antibodies that I have built up, not

> necessarily due to recent exposure but could be

> old exposure.

>

> GI infection of fusarium I read is usually only

> in third world countries, but how reliable is

> that information. The reading I did on fusarium

> was only about an hour though.

>

> --- " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

>

> > Barb1283 and group,

> >

> > In response to several posts by you and others

> > on mold testing

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carl, so you mean that there may have been a

fusarium colony here at one time that is dead now

and dead fragments of it are in air and my body

could have developed antibodies to those. That's

a possibility I hadn't considered.

My culture mold plates finally came back that I

redid for the summer hot humid months and they

are CONSIDERABLY different than culture plates

and other testing that I had done the dead of

last winter, CONSIDERABLY, which means I will be

moving out shortly for temporary stay...there is

still a mold problem here now confirmed by

culture plates send to Dallas for 8 weeks. It

could be caused by the phenomenon of attic air

coming down into house during summer a/c season

and/or just the higher humidity outside and

inside but the counts are too high and are

described as such on report so there is now no

doubt, both person and house are sick. Right now

wearing a mask but spent hours yesterday reading

through apartment rental ads. Oh, wow, what a

huge expense. I'm just hemorraging money right

now.

--- " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

> I like your thought process and your

> " detective " methods. Your

> knowledge and experience will change with more

[Guest guest]

Re: new test results for my house:

I might add the difference of tests I did in my

home last winter with Home Depot plates and the

test I did recently this summer with Dallas

plates I mentioned in earlier post and below,

could also be due to difference in quality as

people here have questioned Home Depot quality,

so I will consider that too. However I don't

think so since during the winter when plates were

done, I felt pretty good, felt air was good, so

think there difference was in air quality. I

also then had professional air testing done in

specific rooms that I wanted retested and they

pretty much backed up Home Depots 'conclusion'

about room, okay or not okay.

I think reason in difference in test is due to

winter dry conditions OR fact that attic air may

be problem and that wasn't affecting home in

winter.

I didn't humidify AT ALL last winter so when air

tests were done indoor air humidity was measured

by professional air testor to be at 28%. As soon

as he said that I thought probably paying for the

testing at the wrong time but he was already here

so went ahead but not much can grow with that

kind of dryness unless there was a leak in house

still.

Anyway, just for to determine for myself validity

of the convenient Home Depot/Pro Lab culture

plates versus other plates like from Dallas, I

may run a couple side-by-side test of one mold

plates from Home Depot/Pro Labs and ones from

Dallas to see what kind of difference I get. I

know one plate could just catch different mold

but it could be interesting to see 'count'

differences and also resulting recommendations,

'room is okay', 'room is not okay'. Not

something I'm going to do now though.

Even if Dallas does a better job I think the Home

Depot plates are good for convenience and also

because you can get a simple 'count' of mold

spores growing after a week or so without the

expense of analysis. So you can buy the plates

for 9.95 and use them as way to catch and count

mold spores. Mold growth generally starts to

show up in 2-3 days. The Dallas plates the price

of analyizing is included in the price of kits,

so you wouldn't get your money's worth unless you

got all plates analyzed.

Example of use: I put one in a temporary stay

hotel room here I was interested in staying in

and left it out a half hour. That was a week

ago. It looks like all I caught was some yeast

or what I have come to identify as yeast in

plate. Incidentally they said they run ozone

machines in rooms after someone checks out and

before new person moves in, which was interesting

information. She said she mentioned it because

she would take me to room where ozone machine had

not been run yet and I believe her since room was

a little smelly. Other room she took me to that

ozone had been run, did smell fresher, so I think

she was being accurate as she seemed to be

interested in test herself. She works there all

day, so I would be too. In this case I decided

not to have what grew in plate analyized since I

have decided not to stay at this particular hotel

because I'm finding better prices elsewhere, so

if I was using Dallas plates for example, I would

have paid for analysis I'm not interested in

anymore.

With the Home Depot plates, I haven't lost any

money since the fee to read the plates is

separate. You purchase the plates for 9.95 and

then if within 3 days to 7 days, anything grows,

you can send it off to them in repaid envelope

for analysis. OR you can just keep them for a

couple weeks yourself and count them best you

can. If there is sparce growth as you want, you

should be able to count yourself. If there is

alot of growth, you probably won't be able to

count yourself since the molds will run together

but that tells you something already that you

need to know, that there was a lot of mold in

air. You include $35 more for analysis, so you

can run alot of tests for 9.95 a piece and maybe

pay for only one or two to be analyzed.

--- bbw <barb1283@...> wrote:

> Hi Carl, so you mean that there may have been a

> fusarium colony here at one time that is dead

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

If you are willing, the group may appreciate seeing more of the

specifics about the results of your testing. It may help to interpret

what others have experienced. Or, maybe not. Either way is important.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> Re: new test results for my house:

>

> I might add the difference of tests I did in my

> home last winter with Home Depot plates and the

> test I did recently this summer with Dallas

> plates I mentioned in earlier post and below,

> could also be due to difference in quality as

> people here have questioned Home Depot quality,

> so I will consider that too. However I don't

> think so since during the winter when plates were

> done, I felt pretty good, felt air was good, so

> think there difference was in air quality. I

> also then had professional air testing done in

> specific rooms that I wanted retested and they

> pretty much backed up Home Depots 'conclusion'

> about room, okay or not okay.

>

> I think reason in difference in test is due to

> winter dry conditions OR fact that attic air may

> be problem and that wasn't affecting home in

> winter.

>

> I didn't humidify AT ALL last winter so when air

> tests were done indoor air humidity was measured

> by professional air testor to be at 28%. As soon

> as he said that I thought probably paying for the

> testing at the wrong time but he was already here

> so went ahead but not much can grow with that

> kind of dryness unless there was a leak in house

> still.

>

> Anyway, just for to determine for myself validity

> of the convenient Home Depot/Pro Lab culture

> plates versus other plates like from Dallas, I

> may run a couple side-by-side test of one mold

> plates from Home Depot/Pro Labs and ones from

> Dallas to see what kind of difference I get. I

> know one plate could just catch different mold

> but it could be interesting to see 'count'

> differences and also resulting recommendations,

> 'room is okay', 'room is not okay'. Not

> something I'm going to do now though.

>

> Even if Dallas does a better job I think the Home

> Depot plates are good for convenience and also

> because you can get a simple 'count' of mold

> spores growing after a week or so without the

> expense of analysis. So you can buy the plates

> for 9.95 and use them as way to catch and count

> mold spores. Mold growth generally starts to

> show up in 2-3 days. The Dallas plates the price

> of analyizing is included in the price of kits,

> so you wouldn't get your money's worth unless you

> got all plates analyzed.

>

> Example of use: I put one in a temporary stay

> hotel room here I was interested in staying in

> and left it out a half hour. That was a week

> ago. It looks like all I caught was some yeast

> or what I have come to identify as yeast in

> plate. Incidentally they said they run ozone

> machines in rooms after someone checks out and

> before new person moves in, which was interesting

> information. She said she mentioned it because

> she would take me to room where ozone machine had

> not been run yet and I believe her since room was

> a little smelly. Other room she took me to that

> ozone had been run, did smell fresher, so I think

> she was being accurate as she seemed to be

> interested in test herself. She works there all

> day, so I would be too. In this case I decided

> not to have what grew in plate analyized since I

> have decided not to stay at this particular hotel

> because I'm finding better prices elsewhere, so

> if I was using Dallas plates for example, I would

> have paid for analysis I'm not interested in

> anymore.

>

> With the Home Depot plates, I haven't lost any

> money since the fee to read the plates is

> separate. You purchase the plates for 9.95 and

> then if within 3 days to 7 days, anything grows,

> you can send it off to them in repaid envelope

> for analysis. OR you can just keep them for a

> couple weeks yourself and count them best you

> can. If there is sparce growth as you want, you

> should be able to count yourself. If there is

> alot of growth, you probably won't be able to

> count yourself since the molds will run together

> but that tells you something already that you

> need to know, that there was a lot of mold in

> air. You include $35 more for analysis, so you

> can run alot of tests for 9.95 a piece and maybe

> pay for only one or two to be analyzed.

>

> --- bbw <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi Carl, so you mean that there may have been a

> > fusarium colony here at one time that is dead

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Fusarium is not unheard of indoors at all..

Do a Google search on 'Fusarium indoors'

[Guest guest]

--Barb, it seams pretty unlikely that you could consume enough

fusarium in the foods you eat to be affected by it that way. however

I do think that once you are poisoned by mycotoxin exposure you may

than have problems with some foods that have high contents of it.

your home sounds very much like my first home. I think mold has a

much harder time growing through plaster but eventally well. Im also

convienced that theres something about these older homes that may aid

mycotoxin production. like maybe the horse hair used in the plaster.

they have more dust and particles from outside in the walls,because

of the way they were built and age. do you have pocket doors in your

home ? or hard wood tounge and groove floors that have seperated a

little? they are letting whatever is growing behind your walls into

the home. and so is old chimneys. from my experience in my victoria

home, I'd say you are getting myco exposure from your home somewhere,

mold might not pick up on your tests but myco's are in your air.

sounds like with me in my first home, you've had long term exposure

to lower amounts and it has built up in your system. I'd take it that

finding just one fusarium spore is a good sign its there

somewhere.

- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

wrote:

>

> I like your thought process and your " detective " methods. Your

> knowledge and experience will change with more knowledge and more

> experience. That's one of the the reasons, for example, that I

never

> inspect a building with just one walkthrough. I always go back

> through it again and maybe a third time as I gather more

information

> and make more observations. It is a dynamic process.

>

> The lack of Fusarium could be for many reasons, several of which

you

> state. Another reason is that your exposure is to dead Fusarium.

You

> would still develop antibodies but the dead Fusarium would NEVER

grow

> on a culture plate. And may not be seen amongst all the debris on a

> tape lift or cassette. Or be mis-identified. Again, for samples to

> have reliable meaning and the best possible results, these types of

> variables should enter into a sampling plan before the samples are

> taken.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

> > Thanks Carl. It is truly a confusing issue as we

> > can see by all the opinions even by such an

> > intensely interested group educating themselves.

> >

> > Interestingly I have recently discovered I fall

> > into the category you mentioned of:

> >

> > " There is a fungal

> > infection of X mold and there is Y and Z mold in

> > the air but no X

> > mold. "

> >

> > I have extremely high antibodies to Fusarium on

> > blood test but in culture dishes and professional

> > testing done on house only one singular fusarium

> > caught. It's a mystery.

> >

> > I get the impression that fusarium is more likely

> > to be found in the food supply, grains, than

> > airborne, so I'm wondering if I have an infection

> > in my gut, or I did, past tense. I think test

> > tested antibodies that I have built up, not

> > necessarily due to recent exposure but could be

> > old exposure.

> >

> > GI infection of fusarium I read is usually only

> > in third world countries, but how reliable is

> > that information. The reading I did on fusarium

> > was only about an hour though.

> >

> > --- " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Barb1283 and group,

> > >

> > > In response to several posts by you and others

> > > on mold testing

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Carl,

People have told me to be careful of what I put

on internet since anyone can read it. However

that is why I don't put my full name anywhere but

just to be on safe side, I will send them to you

first. If they are very vary bad in your

estimation, perhaps I shouldn't post them. I

don't understand these things, how people find

out so much.

--- " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

> Barb,

>

> If you are willing, the group may appreciate

> seeing more of the

> specifics about the results of your testing. It

> may help to interpret

> what others have experienced. Or, maybe not.

> Either way is important.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

> > Re: new test results for my house:

> >

> > I might add the difference of tests I did in

> my

> > home last winter with Home Depot plates and

> the

> > test I did recently this summer with Dallas

> > plates I mentioned in earlier post and below,

> > could also be due to difference in quality as

> > people here have questioned Home Depot

> quality,

> > so I will consider that too. However I don't

> > think so since during the winter when plates

> were

> > done, I felt pretty good, felt air was good,

> so

> > think there difference was in air quality. I

> > also then had professional air testing done

> in

> > specific rooms that I wanted retested and

> they

> > pretty much backed up Home Depots

> 'conclusion'

> > about room, okay or not okay.

> >

> > I think reason in difference in test is due

> to

> > winter dry conditions OR fact that attic air

> may

> > be problem and that wasn't affecting home in

> > winter.

> >

> > I didn't humidify AT ALL last winter so when

> air

> > tests were done indoor air humidity was

> measured

> > by professional air testor to be at 28%. As

> soon

> > as he said that I thought probably paying for

> the

> > testing at the wrong time but he was already

> here

> > so went ahead but not much can grow with that

> > kind of dryness unless there was a leak in

> house

> > still.

> >

> > Anyway, just for to determine for myself

> validity

> > of the convenient Home Depot/Pro Lab culture

> > plates versus other plates like from Dallas,

> I

> > may run a couple side-by-side test of one

> mold

> > plates from Home Depot/Pro Labs and ones from

> > Dallas to see what kind of difference I get.

> I

> > know one plate could just catch different

> mold

> > but it could be interesting to see 'count'

> > differences and also resulting

> recommendations,

> > 'room is okay', 'room is not okay'. Not

> > something I'm going to do now though.

> >

> > Even if Dallas does a better job I think the

> Home

> > Depot plates are good for convenience and

> also

> > because you can get a simple 'count' of mold

> > spores growing after a week or so without the

> > expense of analysis. So you can buy the

> plates

> > for 9.95 and use them as way to catch and

> count

> > mold spores. Mold growth generally starts to

> > show up in 2-3 days. The Dallas plates the

> price

> > of analyizing is included in the price of

> kits,

> > so you wouldn't get your money's worth unless

> you

> > got all plates analyzed.

> >

> > Example of use: I put one in a temporary

> stay

> > hotel room here I was interested in staying

> in

> > and left it out a half hour. That was a week

> > ago. It looks like all I caught was some

> yeast

> > or what I have come to identify as yeast in

> > plate. Incidentally they said they run ozone

> > machines in rooms after someone checks out

> and

> > before new person moves in, which was

> interesting

> > information. She said she mentioned it

> because

> > she would take me to room where ozone machine

> had

> > not been run yet and I believe her since room

> was

> > a little smelly. Other room she took me to

> that

> > ozone had been run, did smell fresher, so I

> think

> > she was being accurate as she seemed to be

> > interested in test herself. She works there

> all

> > day, so I would be too. In this case I

> decided

> > not to have what grew in plate analyized

> since I

> > have decided not to stay at this particular

> hotel

> > because I'm finding better prices elsewhere,

> so

> > if I was using Dallas plates for example, I

> would

> > have paid for analysis I'm not interested in

> > anymore.

> >

> > With the Home Depot plates, I haven't lost

> any

> > money since the fee to read the plates is

> > separate. You purchase the plates for 9.95

> and

> > then if within 3 days to 7 days, anything

> grows,

> > you can send it off to them in repaid

> envelope

> > for analysis. OR you can just keep them for

> a

> > couple weeks yourself and count them best you

> > can. If there is sparce growth as you want,

> you

> > should be able to count yourself. If there

> is

> > alot of growth, you probably won't be able to

> > count yourself since the molds will run

> together

> > but that tells you something already that you

> > need to know, that there was a lot of mold in

> > air. You include $35 more for analysis, so

> you

> > can run alot of tests for 9.95 a piece and

> maybe

> > pay for only one or two to be analyzed.

> >

> > --- bbw <barb1283@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Carl, so you mean that there may have

> been a

> > > fusarium colony here at one time that is

> dead

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

LOL. I posted that to group. I won't apply for

work with the FBI or CIA anytime soon.

-- " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

> Barb,

>

> If you are willing, the group may appreciate

> seeing more of the

>

[Guest guest]

--Barb, are you still haveing days of felling better or are you

felling bad constantly? I would do testing when you fell the worst.I

can look back now and tottally understanding how stachy grows, relate

my fell better times with weather it was wet and growing or dry and

airborne, until it got bad enough that it was filtrated through all

the walls and I was getting more constant exposure. I also realized

that besides windy days causeing worse exposure, in the winter my

steam heat system was causeing constant air flow up through floor and

in walls that kept dry spores stirred up. something else I can now

look back on is that I always felt better the first few weeks of

spring rains. I know fusarium has a different growing nature than

stachy. you may want to read up on fusarium to help you link your

fell worse times with what its doing, it may give you more Ideas

about where it may be

hideing.

- In

, bbw <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> Re: new test results for my house:

>

> I might add the difference of tests I did in my

> home last winter with Home Depot plates and the

> test I did recently this summer with Dallas

> plates I mentioned in earlier post and below,

> could also be due to difference in quality as

> people here have questioned Home Depot quality,

> so I will consider that too. However I don't

> think so since during the winter when plates were

> done, I felt pretty good, felt air was good, so

> think there difference was in air quality. I

> also then had professional air testing done in

> specific rooms that I wanted retested and they

> pretty much backed up Home Depots 'conclusion'

> about room, okay or not okay.

>

> I think reason in difference in test is due to

> winter dry conditions OR fact that attic air may

> be problem and that wasn't affecting home in

> winter.

>

> I didn't humidify AT ALL last winter so when air

> tests were done indoor air humidity was measured

> by professional air testor to be at 28%. As soon

> as he said that I thought probably paying for the

> testing at the wrong time but he was already here

> so went ahead but not much can grow with that

> kind of dryness unless there was a leak in house

> still.

>

> Anyway, just for to determine for myself validity

> of the convenient Home Depot/Pro Lab culture

> plates versus other plates like from Dallas, I

> may run a couple side-by-side test of one mold

> plates from Home Depot/Pro Labs and ones from

> Dallas to see what kind of difference I get. I

> know one plate could just catch different mold

> but it could be interesting to see 'count'

> differences and also resulting recommendations,

> 'room is okay', 'room is not okay'. Not

> something I'm going to do now though.

>

> Even if Dallas does a better job I think the Home

> Depot plates are good for convenience and also

> because you can get a simple 'count' of mold

> spores growing after a week or so without the

> expense of analysis. So you can buy the plates

> for 9.95 and use them as way to catch and count

> mold spores. Mold growth generally starts to

> show up in 2-3 days. The Dallas plates the price

> of analyizing is included in the price of kits,

> so you wouldn't get your money's worth unless you

> got all plates analyzed.

>

> Example of use: I put one in a temporary stay

> hotel room here I was interested in staying in

> and left it out a half hour. That was a week

> ago. It looks like all I caught was some yeast

> or what I have come to identify as yeast in

> plate. Incidentally they said they run ozone

> machines in rooms after someone checks out and

> before new person moves in, which was interesting

> information. She said she mentioned it because

> she would take me to room where ozone machine had

> not been run yet and I believe her since room was

> a little smelly. Other room she took me to that

> ozone had been run, did smell fresher, so I think

> she was being accurate as she seemed to be

> interested in test herself. She works there all

> day, so I would be too. In this case I decided

> not to have what grew in plate analyized since I

> have decided not to stay at this particular hotel

> because I'm finding better prices elsewhere, so

> if I was using Dallas plates for example, I would

> have paid for analysis I'm not interested in

> anymore.

>

> With the Home Depot plates, I haven't lost any

> money since the fee to read the plates is

> separate. You purchase the plates for 9.95 and

> then if within 3 days to 7 days, anything grows,

> you can send it off to them in repaid envelope

> for analysis. OR you can just keep them for a

> couple weeks yourself and count them best you

> can. If there is sparce growth as you want, you

> should be able to count yourself. If there is

> alot of growth, you probably won't be able to

> count yourself since the molds will run together

> but that tells you something already that you

> need to know, that there was a lot of mold in

> air. You include $35 more for analysis, so you

> can run alot of tests for 9.95 a piece and maybe

> pay for only one or two to be analyzed.

>

> --- bbw <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi Carl, so you mean that there may have been a

> > fusarium colony here at one time that is dead

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanine,

Yes, the houses sound similar. Also tissue

analysis and also urine test, there was

conclusion or suggestion that likely cause would

be long term low level, chronic exposure to

mycotoxins.

Everything you say applies to this house.

Chimney needs to be rebuilt. However basement

was fixed in 1999-2000 and seem to doing well.

Problem I feel sure is with attic and chimeny.

It didn't have a cap on chimney for long time and

that wasn't good for it.

What are pocket doors Jeanine????

--- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

> --Barb, it seams pretty unlikely that you could

> consume enough

> fusarium in the foods you eat to be affected by

> it that way

[Guest guest]

-pocket doors are solid doors that slide out from inbetween the

walls, usually between rooms,polor room to formal dining room, to

setting room, and foyer entry in victorian homes.they slide on a iron

rail inside the wall, very beautiful all tiger striped oak. gee, i

fell asleep and dreamed that I went there and it was being all fixed.

I miss it so bad, I hated wakeing up. I just want my home

back.

-- In

, bbw <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jeanine,

> Yes, the houses sound similar. Also tissue

> analysis and also urine test, there was

> conclusion or suggestion that likely cause would

> be long term low level, chronic exposure to

> mycotoxins.

> Everything you say applies to this house.

> Chimney needs to be rebuilt. However basement

> was fixed in 1999-2000 and seem to doing well.

> Problem I feel sure is with attic and chimeny.

> It didn't have a cap on chimney for long time and

> that wasn't good for it.

> What are pocket doors Jeanine????

>

> --- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

>

> > --Barb, it seams pretty unlikely that you could

> > consume enough

> > fusarium in the foods you eat to be affected by

> > it that way

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting trivia fact on fusarium I just read. Sometimes it grows on

the back side of drywall and all that is seen on the front side of the

drywall is a PINK stain that percolates through the plaster ahead of

the mold.. Often that is all that is seen..

Ive seen this before but I didn't know what it meant..

[Guest guest]

I have rust colored stains on a portion of

ceiling in home. I'm sure the ceiling is

plaster. I'm thinking they might be rust from

wires or something. At first I thought something

splashed in room onto ceiling but it is a high

ceiling and I doubt that now. It isn't much and

it hasn't increased over the years. I think

something was going there and was corrected but

stain never addressed. Not sure. Interesting

about the pink though.

--- LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

> Interesting trivia fact on fusarium I just

> read. Sometimes it grows on

> the back side of drywall and all that is seen

> on the front side of the

> drywall is a PINK stain that percolates through

> the plaster ahead of

> the mold.. Often that is all that is seen..

>

> Ive seen this before but I didn't know what it

> meant.

>