Re: Re: Never had central air/ DARLENE=====Carl

[Guest guest]

Carl, I live on the 6th floor of a 9 floor building. Now the mycologist tested

and the molds and deteriorating fiberglass are in my central air/heat both

supply and return ducts. Do you think (i do think this) that my having these in

mine system since it is all the same for the building that this is in all of the

floors system. I know I have seen mold coming out of a lady's duct in her

bedroom and she is on the 7th floor, so my thoughts are it is from the bottom up

through top. This building has had so many water leaks, ceiling tiles in the

hallway of my floor had fell wet soaked and hit me on the shoulder, another time

I had just walked under ceiling tiles that fell down behind me do to pipes

bursting on my same floor. They have buckets down on the first floor catching

water that is dripping from the ceilings down there. Many people have

complained to management that they have mold under carpets, growing up walls,

etc, and management along with the head of

maintenance have told them mold doesn't grow under carpets, and you don't have

any mold. It is a mess. Since I had the mycology test my unit and the results

were given to the entire chain of command right up to HUD, and I have been

yelled at from one in Boston, the manager here on site, she told me i was lucky

to have just had a birthday and turned 50, cause she doesn't rent to under 50

disabled persons, i had remarks made to be even from cleaning personnel

regarding my having it tested since I got sick in Feb 2005 from this. I don't

want to write more of this now, because you would be reading my story all day.

Alot has gone on here, and I am taking the heat for it. I am strong willed, and

I am not shutting up about it, they needed to and still need to re-mediate this

problem. Other people are sick in here too. They have had the report for 2

months.

Thanks for listening to my sounding off, if you have any comments or anyone else

does feel free to reply.

Darlene

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Barb1283,

I hate to disagree with your aquaintance from Colorado Springs but

many houses in Colorado Springs and Denver have A/C and most new ones

are built with it standard. It can be very hot here. Three years ago

we had nearly 80 days of 90+ degrees with about 10 above 100. This

year we had almost all of June in the 90's with several days over 100

and set at least 4 all-time record highs. The water damage and mold

remediation business in this area is in the 10s of millions of

dollars per year. The Yellow Pages are full of these types of

contractors. One builder recently reported $19 million in costs just

for themselves on one type of construction defect resulting in water

and mold damage. And this is a semi-arid climate without lots of

rain. But we do have condensation issues and MANY crawlspace

problems. Per my previous post, a house seperates indoors from

outdoors. That means that the indoors can be very different than the

outside.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> In the airport in Dallas last week I was talking

> to a lady from Colorado Springs, CO. I mentioned

> I was cold and complained about the air

> conditioning everywhere. She said where she was

> from nobody has air conditioning in their homes.

> She said the summers are not that hot, so the

> homes are built without them. I told her I was

> down to clinic to be treated since I got sick

> from mold I cleaned up in my home. She said

> she's never seen mold in any house where she is

> from. I believe her. Now they get cold winters

> so the central heating doesn't seem to be hurting

> anything. She was middle aged and looked pretty

> healthy and wasn't coughing or any telltale sign

> she was sick, but just didn't realize it yet. I

> think I was a central dehumidifier only and put

> large ceiling fans in areas I spend alot of time,

> bedroom, kitchen. Turn on a/c is it is already

> in, once in a blue moon. I like the heat.

> People go into sauna to relax. I believe in the

> saying, it's not the heat, it's the humidity,

> it's just we've built the cooling systems to

> mainly COOL and not dehumidify very well. My

> mother got pneumonia and landed in a hospital in

> Florida when we went down there on vacation from

> perspiring in the heat and then walking in and

> out of those cold hotel lobbies, restaurants and

> stores. She was very sick and so it doesn't do a

> body good either. I've heard it isn't healthy to

> have home temperature much different from outdoor

> temperature. You can't help it in the dead of

> winter but in the summer you could.

>

> --- darlenesb2000 <darlenesb2000@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Yes that is exactly what i m saying.

> >

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Darlene,

This sounds like a major issue. They will need to fix any and all

water leaks and probably replace the entire duct system.. And there is

probably lots of mold inside the walls. This could mean that it would

have to be gutted.

It might be cheaper to tear it down and build a new one. Seriously.

On 9/4/06, Darlene <darlenesb2000@...> wrote:

> Carl, I live on the 6th floor of a 9 floor building. Now the mycologist

tested and the molds and deteriorating fiberglass are in my central air/heat

both supply and return ducts. Do you think (i do think this) that my having

these in mine system since it is all the same for the building that this is in

all of the floors system. I know I have seen mold coming out of a lady's duct

in her bedroom and she is on the 7th floor, so my thoughts are it is from the

bottom up through top. This building has had so many water leaks, ceiling tiles

in the hallway of my floor had fell wet soaked and hit me on the shoulder,

another time I had just walked under ceiling tiles that fell down behind me do

to pipes bursting on my same floor. They have buckets down on the first floor

catching water that is dripping from the ceilings down there. Many people have

complained to management that they have mold under carpets, growing up walls,

etc, and management along with the head of

> maintenance have told them mold doesn't grow under carpets, and you don't

have any mold. It is a mess. Since I had the mycology test my unit and the

results were given to the entire chain of command right up to HUD, and I have

been yelled at from one in Boston, the manager here on site, she told me i was

lucky to have just had a birthday and turned 50, cause she doesn't rent to under

50 disabled persons, i had remarks made to be even from cleaning personnel

regarding my having it tested since I got sick in Feb 2005 from this. I don't

want to write more of this now, because you would be reading my story all day.

Alot has gone on here, and I am taking the heat for it. I am strong willed, and

I am not shutting up about it, they needed to and still need to re-mediate this

problem. Other people are sick in here too. They have had the report for 2

months.

> Thanks for listening to my sounding off, if you have any comments or anyone

else does feel free to reply.

>

> Darlene

>

>

>

> " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Barb1283,

>

> I hate to disagree with your aquaintance from Colorado Springs but

> many houses in Colorado Springs and Denver have A/C and most new ones

> are built with it standard. It can be very hot here. Three years ago

> we had nearly 80 days of 90+ degrees with about 10 above 100. This

> year we had almost all of June in the 90's with several days over 100

> and set at least 4 all-time record highs. The water damage and mold

> remediation business in this area is in the 10s of millions of

> dollars per year. The Yellow Pages are full of these types of

> contractors. One builder recently reported $19 million in costs just

> for themselves on one type of construction defect resulting in water

> and mold damage. And this is a semi-arid climate without lots of

> rain. But we do have condensation issues and MANY crawlspace

> problems. Per my previous post, a house seperates indoors from

> outdoors. That means that the indoors can be very different than the

> outside.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

> > In the airport in Dallas last week I was talking

> > to a lady from Colorado Springs, CO. I mentioned

> > I was cold and complained about the air

> > conditioning everywhere. She said where she was

> > from nobody has air conditioning in their homes.

> > She said the summers are not that hot, so the

> > homes are built without them. I told her I was

> > down to clinic to be treated since I got sick

> > from mold I cleaned up in my home. She said

> > she's never seen mold in any house where she is

> > from. I believe her. Now they get cold winters

> > so the central heating doesn't seem to be hurting

> > anything. She was middle aged and looked pretty

> > healthy and wasn't coughing or any telltale sign

> > she was sick, but just didn't realize it yet. I

> > think I was a central dehumidifier only and put

> > large ceiling fans in areas I spend alot of time,

> > bedroom, kitchen. Turn on a/c is it is already

> > in, once in a blue moon. I like the heat.

> > People go into sauna to relax. I believe in the

> > saying, it's not the heat, it's the humidity,

> > it's just we've built the cooling systems to

> > mainly COOL and not dehumidify very well. My

> > mother got pneumonia and landed in a hospital in

> > Florida when we went down there on vacation from

> > perspiring in the heat and then walking in and

> > out of those cold hotel lobbies, restaurants and

> > stores. She was very sick and so it doesn't do a

> > body good either. I've heard it isn't healthy to

> > have home temperature much different from outdoor

> > temperature. You can't help it in the dead of

> > winter but in the summer you could.

> >

> > --- darlenesb2000 <darlenesb2000@...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Yes that is exactly what i m saying.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Darlene,

You need to take lots of photos and get mold samples tested

(indoorairresearch.net has good prices..) and especially GET THE LOCAL

MEDIA INVOLVED..

Carry a camera everywhere and take photos when you see something..

Turn on the date/time stamp feature and make sure its set to the

accurate time.. Go around door to door with a copy of Mold warriors

and find out what people have symptoms and document them..

Its not hard to get serious about this.. Embarass the heck out of

them.. don;t be shy. Thats all they care about..

You can find out the names of the officers of the management company

from your state office of corporations . Picket their homes!

[Guest guest]

Hi. I have plenty of pictures and have contacted local media. No response from

media, letters to the editor. I wrote to them numerous times. I think I will

have to call a local televison station, and radio stations. I did contact some

other stations, and got no reply. I don't know why. Maybe because this is

subsidized through HUD (in which they know about it, they have a copy of the

mycology report and pictures), the entire chain of command from the property

manager on site to the top including the owners of the buildings are all aware

of this and have been for almost 2 months now.

Darlene

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

Darlene,

You need to take lots of photos and get mold samples tested

(indoorairresearch.net has good prices..) and especially GET THE LOCAL

MEDIA INVOLVED..

Carry a camera everywhere and take photos when you see something..

Turn on the date/time stamp feature and make sure its set to the

accurate time.. Go around door to door with a copy of Mold warriors

and find out what people have symptoms and document them..

Its not hard to get serious about this.. Embarass the heck out of

them.. don;t be shy. Thats all they care about..

You can find out the names of the officers of the management company

from your state office of corporations . Picket their homes!

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