Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 I don't mind moving out of house until it is safe or permanently. My hesitation is that I haven't the foggiest notion of how to pick a safe place. My own house is in nice area, smells clean, looks clean. If I didn't know about attic problem, just discovered, I would move in here for safety, so here are my thoughts. Doctor said ideal is to stay out of house until it totally cleaned up, it is safe. So problem then is how to find a safe place to live in interim. My idea is to try those extended stay type places, that you can rent for day, week or month etc or other temporary rental but ask if you can do a mold culture plate first. If you get the ones from the Dallas Environmental Clinic, they do their tests on a 30 minute exposure, rather than an hour, so all you have to do is half hour, then take it home and wait a a few days. If nothing at all grows, seems it would be safe to assume low amount of mycotoxins too. I know some people who have used culture plates from Home Depot and gotten zero growth, so it's possible. I always get a 'bumper crop' that shows up within a couple of days. Doesn't that make sense? I know mold and mycotoxins can be separate issue but it would seem to me if place is clean enough to grow zero mold in a culture dish, it would be much cleaner than average place. Only problem I see with using the Dallas plates for testing is cost of plate includes testing. Home Depot plates have cost of testing separated out from cost of purchasing plate. So you could use Home Depot plates just to see if ANYTHING grows. If nothing grows within a few days, and you wanted to be absolutely sure before making a commitment you could do the Dallas or Texas Tech plates or some other type. If it's one of those extended stay types you could rent for a few days or a week before making longer arrangements and see " how you feel there " . Because of course there are other things that can increase our toxic load besides mold. Anyone else have any ideas on finding clean housing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 barb, Im glad you got the testing done, the last post you posted about your stomach hurting like flu symtoms made me think of t-myco's but I was hopeing it wasn't. I dont know if there will be any easy ways to find a safe place to stay so many things can affect testing as you know. besides weather condictions, if these places haven't been rented lately they may not show any signs of mold until your in them and vibration and sweeping stirs them up. if you can find somewhere to pay a week at a time, it may be the best bet. > > I don't mind moving out of house until it is safe or permanently. > My hesitation is that I haven't the foggiest notion of how to pick a > safe place. My own house is in nice area, smells clean, looks > clean. If I didn't know about attic problem, just discovered, I > would move in here for safety, so here are my thoughts. Doctor said > ideal is to stay out of house until it totally cleaned up, it is > safe. So problem then is how to find a safe place to live in > interim. My idea is to try those extended stay type places, that > you can rent for day, week or month etc or other temporary rental > but ask if you can do a mold culture plate first. If you get the > ones from the Dallas Environmental Clinic, they do their tests on a > 30 minute exposure, rather than an hour, so all you have to do is > half hour, then take it home and wait a a few days. If nothing at > all grows, seems it would be safe to assume low amount of mycotoxins > too. I know some people who have used culture plates from Home > Depot and gotten zero growth, so it's possible. I always get > a 'bumper crop' that shows up within a couple of days. Doesn't that > make sense? I know mold and mycotoxins can be separate issue but it > would seem to me if place is clean enough to grow zero mold in a > culture dish, it would be much cleaner than average place. > > Only problem I see with using the Dallas plates for testing is cost > of plate includes testing. Home Depot plates have cost of testing > separated out from cost of purchasing plate. So you could use Home > Depot plates just to see if ANYTHING grows. If nothing grows within > a few days, and you wanted to be absolutely sure before making a > commitment you could do the Dallas or Texas Tech plates or some > other type. > > If it's one of those extended stay types you could rent for a few > days or a week before making longer arrangements and see " how you > feel there " . Because of course there are other things that can > increase our toxic load besides mold. > > Anyone else have any ideas on finding clean housing? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Jeanine, aren't tricothecenes, t-mycos? I was told I had tricothecene mycotoxicosis? There are three barb's in here now I believe too. I guess I should sign, barb1283 --- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > barb, Im glad you got the testing done, the > last post you posted > about your stomach hurting like flu symtoms > made me think of t-myco's > but I was hopeing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 yes t-myco's-trichathecene mycotoxins. sorry I was thinking it was you who posted about 4 or 5 days ago about stomach hurting, may not have been. > > > barb, Im glad you got the testing done, the > > last post you posted > > about your stomach hurting like flu symtoms > > made me think of t-myco's > > but I was hopeing it > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 -sorry, dont mean to sound short, just not up to typeing a lot. yes, Im thinking its t-2 myco's that are pretty well known to cause dierrhea w/blood and the stomach upset with it. if im thinking right fusarium and stachy can put out t-2 myco's. wasn't it you who had said your stomach was bothering you but you thought it was more from mold than mycotoxins? maybe was a different barb. sorry -- In , bbw <barb1283@...> wrote: > > Jeanine, aren't tricothecenes, t-mycos? I was > told I had tricothecene mycotoxicosis? There are > three barb's in here now I believe too. I guess > I should sign, barb1283 > > --- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > > > barb, Im glad you got the testing done, the > > last post you posted > > about your stomach hurting like flu symtoms > > made me think of t-myco's > > but I was hopeing it > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 MINE IS BOTHERING ME A LOT. ONE OF MY ORIGINAL SYMPTOMS. who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -sorry, dont mean to sound short, just not up to typeing a lot. yes, Im thinking its t-2 myco's that are pretty well known to cause dierrhea w/blood and the stomach upset with it. if im thinking right fusarium and stachy can put out t-2 myco's. wasn't it you who had said your stomach was bothering you but you thought it was more from mold than mycotoxins? maybe was a different barb. sorry -- In , bbw <barb1283@...> wrote: > > Jeanine, aren't tricothecenes, t-mycos? I was > told I had tricothecene mycotoxicosis? There are > three barb's in here now I believe too. I guess > I should sign, barb1283 > > --- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > > > barb, Im glad you got the testing done, the > > last post you posted > > about your stomach hurting like flu symtoms > > made me think of t-myco's > > but I was hopeing it > --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 No, Jeanine, you were right. It was probably me. I have considerable digestive problems. Dr Croft said gi lining is one of most susceptible parts of body for toxins to damage. Food is not being absorbed well. My stomach lining looks okay now but gi tract still having trouble apparent from blood test, not absorbing nutrients even though eating well. A couple years ago when this first started it was ulcerated but those have cleared up as of a year ago. I was feeling pretty good this past winter but summer has brought me down again. Indoor air people say it is most likely attic air. I knew there was some problem up there but didn't know it could get down into house. I think it is around chimney, so I'm moving out to temporary housing and get work done. Probably pitch carpeting and drapery and fabric furniture. Hell I'm moving eventually anyway, so might as well start to clear furniture out now. There are antiques in the house. I'm going to put them into storage units until I can have time to go through. I will pick a nice day, wear protective clothing and spend a hour here and there going through it, including important papers, tax records, etc and make copies of anything important and throw any originals away. While I'm out of the house, will have repairs done, carpet removed, etc. I know I'm fine here in the winter. I felt fine since I can open the fresh air intake. --- who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > -sorry, dont mean to sound short, just not up > to typeing a lot. yes, > Im thinking its t-2 myco's that are pretty well > known to cause > dierrhea w/blood and the stomach upset with it. > if im thinking right > fusarium and stachy can put out t-2 myco's. > wasn't it you who had > said your stomach was bothering you but you > thought it was more from > mold than mycotoxins? maybe was a different > barb. > sorry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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