Re: Mold tests might not always be worth the time or money

[Guest guest]

Interesting literature here. I had a medical professional and his

students during my physical examination for molds, how they kept

stating that they should go into the business of being mycologists,

due to the amount of money my son had spent on hiring one due to my

illness. They stated the one I had hired more or less was taking the

money and enjoying life. They stated that they should change their

professions due to the amount of money a mycologist charges to just do

a small apartment, could only imagine what the cost would be for a

house. I felt belittled, they said maybe I should see some

professional in a behavioral group---once again more or less they were

telling me I was crazy regarding illness to mold. Once again was

referred to another medical professional by them.

Darlene

>

> Mold tests might not always be worth the time or money

> Danbury News Times - Danbury,CT

>

> By Gold

> THE NEWS-TIMES

>

> http://www.newstimeslive.com/news/story.php?id=1011258

>

> You notice mold splotched across the corner of your living room

> ceiling. It looks and smells mucky. Time to get an air quality or

> mold test?

> Not so fast, warned both the state Departments of Public Health and

> Consumer Protection Thursday.

>

> State officials said molds still need to be removed, but tests are

> often expensive and unnecessary.

>

> Tom St. Louis, an epidemiologist with the Department of Public

> Health, said an increasing number of people are calling his office

> with questions on mold testing.

>

> " We have gotten to the point of frustration from the calls of people

> where we feel people are being taken advantage of, " St. Louis

> said. " There are a lot of wonderful contractors out there, but there

> are definitely contractors out there that are a little overstepping

> their qualifications of doing indoor air testing for mold. "

>

> St. Louis said most molds spawn from a water leak in the house. Fix

> the water problem and you'll likely fix the mold problem. All molds

> can cause problems, he said. Therefore, it is more important to

> clean away the mold than determine the type. " Our perspective is the

> consumer must remedy what's an obvious source of mold growth first

> and not jump right to do the testing, " said Jerry Farrell, deputy

> commissioner of the state's Department of Consumer Protection.

>

> St. Louis said he's heard of some testing costing thousands of

> dollars.

>

> There is no state licensing specifically for mold testing or clean-

> up. Instead, the consumer protection office licenses general

> building and home improvement contractors.

>

> Sometimes, St. Louis said, unqualified contractors ordering air

> quality tests. When the results come in, they sometimes can't

> explain them to the customer.

>

> Exposure to mold can lead to breathing problems, asthma attacks,

> headaches, and sore throats.

>

> , owner of ASAP Mold Remediation Corp. in Redding,

> said some people want air testing for " peace of mind, " especially if

> they are allergic or have young children. " They want piece of mind

> to get an answer and they are willing to pay a couple hundred

> dollars to get a sample, " he said.

>

> said most testing happens when there is no visible mold.

> Residents might be allergic to mold but want to find out whether a

> smell is coming from mold or something else like animal dander.

>

> " If there is nothing obvious, it is not a bad idea to get an air

> sample to better get a more thorough investigation, " said.

> Some people might want to record a problem if they are renting or

> just bought a home, he said.

>

> Still, said some contractors play on people's fear of molds

> and do unnecessary testing. For example, if he knows it's a mold

> that needs to be cleaned, there is no need to charge extra for

> testing. " There is a lot of that going on, " he said about

> unnecessary testing.

>

>

> Contact Gold

> at rgold@...

>

> or at 203-731-3350

>

[Guest guest]

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

> There are real doctors out there who don't approach situations with

their minds made up already...

We all should start making formal complaints when doctors dismiss

mold illness like this..

>

I guess that I can't blame doctors for being disinterested when I

spent years going to CFS support groups and various mold groups,

including this one, and have them all deny and dismiss my story in

even stronger terms than any of the doctors who saw no value in my

information.

You can simply go through my old messages and see by the responses

(or lack thereof) that many people simply were not interested or even

contradicted me for presenting this experience.

So how can we possibly indict doctors for dismissing information

regarding mold illness, when so many mold sufferers in a mold group

dismissed it as well?

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[Guest guest]

, I don't think anyone ignors you here. You have alot to bring

to the table, but you do say the same thing over and over again so

what else is there to say. It is great that you can do so much and

help the group. You just say the same thing and even cut and paste

from previous posts. This is no insult to you but you always say

things about the group like we are against you or something.

>

> > There are real doctors out there who don't approach situations

with

> their minds made up already...

> We all should start making formal complaints when doctors dismiss

> mold illness like this..

> >

>

>

> I guess that I can't blame doctors for being disinterested when I

> spent years going to CFS support groups and various mold groups,

> including this one, and have them all deny and dismiss my story in

> even stronger terms than any of the doctors who saw no value in my

> information.

> You can simply go through my old messages and see by the responses

> (or lack thereof) that many people simply were not interested or

even

> contradicted me for presenting this experience.

> So how can we possibly indict doctors for dismissing information

> regarding mold illness, when so many mold sufferers in a mold group

> dismissed it as well?

> -

>

[Guest guest]

" ldelp84227 " < wrote:

> , I don't think anyone ignors you here. You have alot to bring

to the table, but you do say the same thing over and over again so

what else is there to say. It is great that you can do so much and

help the group. You just say the same thing and even cut and paste

from previous posts. This is no insult to you but you always say

things about the group like we are against you or something.

>

It does feel like this group is overly argumentative toward me a lot

of the time when some point that is intensely important to my well

being gets " glossed over " as if it were never said.

Take " mold testing " for example.

There's a great deal of discussion regarding the best way to test for

mold in your house using plates, tape lifts or air sampling.

None of these were indicative of a mold problem for me, and also for

some others I've seen in this situation. So when I say that they

don't necessarily apply to an extreme mold responder and cannot be

trusted as a guide to action, I'm a bit surprised to see the

discussion go right on apace.

And then, if I point this out again, I'm just told that my experience

isn't relevant and that I'm just repeating myself - and then the

discussion of these useless methods STILL goes on, with my little

warning falling by the wayside.

That's what I mean by being strangely disinterested.

I used to think that I was at a disadvantage, in that years ago there

was no information on this type of illness - and that doctors refused

to work with me on figuring it out. But now that the " mold experts "

have shown up in droves and convinced everyone that their information

is reliable - it makes it even more difficult for people to dislodge

inappropriate concepts, because they appear to come from a trustworthy

source.

If I were to abide by some of the concepts promoted in this group as

being relevant and meaningful, I would have been laboring under some

extremely counterproductive information and suffered a great deal of

avoidable pain as a result of being misled.

People certainly have the right to choose their own path, but it

always amazes me when some of us who have already trodden it point out

that it led us to a bad end - and watch folks decide that this is the

way they want to go anyway.

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[Guest guest]

, I really fell that you are the one haveing a hard time

learning from the rest of us. there are many here dealing with a lot

more than a little exposure to stachy and you have recovered from the

fatique enough to go hiking.this may of been where I would of been

had my doctor reconized my exposure in the very beganing.I do

understand that even ones less affected can not tottally understand

whats going on with the sicker ones. this is scary , when you have

organ damage. many of us have been exposed to toxic voc's along with

our mold exposure and suffer from multiple organ damage. multiple

illnesses. I dont have all my allergy tests here with me right now

but let me share with you just one round of testing. allergys

(weather thats what they are or weather its a reaction to the serium)

are what you were exposed to. alternaria,cladasporium molds a,b & c

(what ever that means),

aspergillus,pencillium,stachy,fusarium,eppicoccus,pulluaria, house

dust,mites,roches,cows,trees,grass, and 2 voc's- T.C.E and formalin.

my urine infection has got worse, i'm scared to go to a hospital, i

fell like crap, i have a fever because of the infections going on,

and i'm dealing with something going on almost all the time. about

the time I get it under control, I get zapped again. so yes, I'm a

little short on patients quite often, and I dont really take kindly

to your repeated braging, this is not the place for it. no one cares

who coined the term'mold hit', every body has theri own terms, and

you really should do some research back into the 70's and beyond, you

are not the first person to get effected by mold. if you state

something from Shoemaker book it would be nice if you gave him the

credit and otherwise GET REAL and speak in your own tounge. and

please answer the questions put to you, or just say " I DONT KNOW' 3

very simple words to say. if you want the attention you so obviously

crave, you should start your own site. yes, for those not terriably

affected yet, advoidance is a good thing to preach on, but for many,

the damage has been done and aviodance is just one piece of advice

that I think most of us are allready aware

of.

>

> > There are real doctors out there who don't approach situations

with

> their minds made up already...

> We all should start making formal complaints when doctors dismiss

> mold illness like this..

> >

>

>

> I guess that I can't blame doctors for being disinterested when I

> spent years going to CFS support groups and various mold groups,

> including this one, and have them all deny and dismiss my story in

> even stronger terms than any of the doctors who saw no value in my

> information.

> You can simply go through my old messages and see by the responses

> (or lack thereof) that many people simply were not interested or

even

> contradicted me for presenting this experience.

> So how can we possibly indict doctors for dismissing information

> regarding mold illness, when so many mold sufferers in a mold group

> dismissed it as well?

> -

>

[Guest guest]

It does feel like this group is overly argumentative toward me a lot

> of the time when some point that is intensely important to my well

> being gets " glossed over " as if it were never said.

> Take " mold testing " for example.

> There's a great deal of discussion regarding the best way to test

for

> mold in your house using plates, tape lifts or air sampling.

> None of these were indicative of a mold problem for me, and also

for

> some others I've seen in this situation.

>>>>>mold testing is important even if it just conferms mold

present, and its also usefull to know what molds you were/are exposed

to.mold testing is a conformation of whats happened to you, you can't

go around claiming mold exposure if you haven't done mold testing.

are you saying that you desided on your own that youre sensative to

stachy? do you not have mold testing to back that up?

So when I say that they

> don't necessarily apply to an extreme mold responder and cannot be

> trusted as a guide to action, I'm a bit surprised to see the

> discussion go right on apace.

> And then, if I point this out again, I'm just told that my

experience

>>>>>>>>>from what little youve said, It doesn't seem that you are

not a extreme mold responder, and that could be a allergy, theres a

difference between mold and myco exposure.I could stand around

mold/myco's long enough to vector it and grid it out. and I practice

advoidence!

> isn't relevant and that I'm just repeating myself - and then the

> discussion of these useless methods STILL goes on, with my little

> warning falling by the wayside.

>>>>>>are you tring to say you have all the answers and everyone else

is stupied?

> That's what I mean by being strangely disinterested.

>>>>>>nevermind.

> I used to think that I was at a disadvantage, in that years ago

there

> was no information on this type of illness - and that doctors

refused

> to work with me on figuring it out. But now that the " mold

experts "

> have shown up in droves and convinced everyone that their

information

> is reliable - it makes it even more difficult for people to

dislodge

> inappropriate concepts, because they appear to come from a

trustworthy

> source.

> If I were to abide by some of the concepts promoted in this group

as

> being relevant and meaningful, I would have been laboring under

some

> extremely counterproductive information and suffered a great deal

of

> avoidable pain as a result of being misled.

>>>>>>>>>>omg. if you think were all so dislitic and your to smart

for us, please move on. in case you dont get it, some suffer

constration probles-BRAIN DAMAGE FROM TOXINS!

> People certainly have the right to choose their own path, but it

> always amazes me when some of us who have already trodden it point

out

> that it led us to a bad end - and watch folks decide that this is

the

> way they want to go anyway.

you cant save the world, lighten up and get real.

> -

>