Re: Re: Anyone here who is currently VERY ill?........

[Guest guest]

shes right. God knows what six more months will do to you. Im still sick

three years after leaving a moldy workplace. But I was there for eight

years.Overloaded my immune system. I stay in house now as I am allergic to

everything.

Even most foods.

Janet

[Guest guest]

get out while you can still function in the world. once you have to start

taking lots of steroids, antibiotics, you only get worse.

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: yes, its probably in your ac.

you need to quit stiring it up and

just get out of there. and yes, 6 months is going to make you much

more ill. please get out and give your body some recovering time

while you learn some info. on what your dealing with, and how to deal

with it. I know its hard but you are not helping your health. please

wear a mask if you remove any more rugs, turn off ac and open

windows.shower and change right

afterwards.

--- In , " shybasset " <shybasset@...>

wrote:

>

> The past week has been awful....I disposed of about 6 rugs

> today,,,,have about 8 more....in my bedroom I took rugs out

yesterday,

> but my eyes STILL burn ,mainly when the air cond, is

blowing....does

> that mean mold in the vents or the a.c unit itself???? " About " how

> much time do I have to " move " out....HATE to after only 2 years in

> new house, nice neighborhood......would I have 6 months to

sell/donate

> (most) my belongings and get house on market, or should I get out

NOW?

> I know now is best, but I don't have money to stay elsewhere and

would

> need to come home to get things ready for donation.....would 6

months

> worsen my health a lot? Rifgt now is 3rd day in row where morning

> almost went to ER! Afternoon is some better. The FATIGUE is the

> worst, and I'm VERY dizzy with rubbery legs....going to PC in 2

> hrs...if he admits me to hospital and feel better on release after

> spending$$$$$, when I go home, I'll come right back down with the

same

> health symptoms!!! I'm alone so must do for myself. Thanks for

> help. Shybasset

>

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and LiveSimply,

Fascinating project! I'd also like to hear what others have to say

about how they finally " got it. " What information, presentation,

experience, etc trigger off that " ah ha! " moment. Or, maybe, it just

got so bad they'd HAD to do something, anything. This could not only

help us, but improve our attempts to help others. One of the major

complaints here is that our warnings go unheard, unheeded and

certainly unappreciated. What works to alert people in a way they

will respond appropriately?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

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> > Whatever you can do to minimize that moving time is best. In

> > retrospect, I would have hired somebody to do it if I could have

> > afforded to, and thrown everything porous out.

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> Livesimply, we tried to warn you in the strongest possible terms that

> you would wish to have done things differently.

> Our advice was far stronger than the wording you use in your

> current advice, yet we still didn't manage to convey the seriousness

> of the situation sufficiently to pursuade you to do exactly what you

> now wish you had done.

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> /message/39319

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> Can you help us to understand why our advice didn't our advice seem

> compelling enough at the time?

> In retrospect, is there some other way we could have presented this

> information in some much stronger way to help get you through this

> stage with fewer missteps?

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[Guest guest]

Who,

Right onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Elvira

[] Re: Anyone here who is currently VERY ill?........

-Please don't take me wrong, it's not that I dislike you, it's only

like you have said yourself,it's your arragance. I have allready

dealt with that to much in my life and with what I've been through,

it just really is not something I wish to deal with here.I even like

you posting Shoemakers thoughts, I like to know what everyone thinks

than compare it to my experence. it is pretty amaseing and

devastateing at the same

time.

-- In , " who "

<jeaninem660@...> wrote:

>

> -, how rude, i dont think 'I told you so' is going to help

> anyone. you know from your own experience that no one gets it until

> they have been threw it or seen someone they love go threw it and

> even than its hard to understand. you go on and on about how no one

> listened to you back than, while guess what, people still aren't

> listening and theri not going to until its splashed all over the

news

> and reconized as the health hazard that it is.

> most people dont come here until theri allready suffering and

> starting to put it together and believe me, if theri brain is

getting

> affected, theri not thinking real clearly and it may take getting

to

> the point where you fell like your dieing for your brain alarm to

go

> off. if you can fiqure out how to get the world to wake up and

> reconize this, you will have acomplished something. this is what we

> all want and are trying to do.

> there is a process here and I think you know what Im talking

about.

> its called 'time'. I know you didn't know anything about mold

before

> you got ill from it, and I know that it took you a while to figure

> out what you have sence than. you are no special mold detecter.

after

> anyone affected gets away from it, theri sensativitys surface and

> theri bodys are in protection and detection mode.

> Barb for example might not tottally get how you can detect and

know

> when mold is around but I do and she probably well once she gets

away

> from it for awhile.just how bad you were affected is going to

> deturmine just how sensative you will be to it.and what you were

> exposed to is what you are going to be sensative to. nothing like

> some adviodence to highten your sences to things that have affected

> your body to the point it reacts with even the smallest amount in

the

> air.and believe me, when youre dealing with allergy irratants, food

> allergy irratants mold,mycotoxins and other toxins theres no way to

> aviod it all inless you have a bubble on your head. as far as

> mycotoxin exposure goes, its the same thing that happens with any

> toxin exposure,toxin overload well make you react to all toxins but

> still the ones that caused it well be the worst. ones who are lucky

> enough to only suffer from allergenic and even pathogenic molds are

> still going to get very ill but the toxin exposure is tottally

> different and wouldn't it be wrong to give advice to someone with

the

> lessor effects and have them burn theri home on your advice to

later

> realize it could have be saved? I have knowticed that you give no

> newcomers any advice at all. but you are good at pointing out

things

> in other peoples posts which I dont know about anyone else but I

dont

> need that done for me, I still have a brain and it still works,

just

> not quite as well as it used to. yes, you have had more time sence

> your exposure to think about things, maybe to much. yes, it would

be

> nice if others could learn from our mistakes but as you should know

> that rarely ever

>

happens.

> -- In

> , " erikmoldwarrior "

> <erikmoldwarrior@> wrote:

> >

> > LiveSimply <quackadillian@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Whatever you can do to minimize that moving time is best. In

> > > retrospect, I would have hired somebody to do it if I could have

> > > afforded to, and thrown everything porous out.

> >

> >

> > Livesimply, we tried to warn you in the strongest possible terms

> > that you would wish to have done things differently.

> > Our advice was far stronger than the wording you use in your

> > current advice, yet we still didn't manage to convey the

> seriousness

> > of the situation sufficiently to pursuade you to do exactly what

> you

> > now wish you had done.

> >

> > /message/39319

> >

> > Can you help us to understand why our advice didn't our advice

> seem

> > compelling enough at the time?

> > In retrospect, is there some other way we could have presented

> this

> > information in some much stronger way to help get you through

this

> > stage with fewer missteps?

> > -

> >

>