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barb, I dont know if I have this exactly right but i relate voc's to

high moisture or standing water with mold problems, like in my second

home where I haven't yet ruled out bacteria effects along with

mold/myco's. in my first home that was a dryer type situation, I

relate the mold/myco's only to my symptoms. the burning affect to the

nose,

etc.

> >

> >

> > The neurotoxic mycotoxins have no odor per se.

> > It creates an " acrid " olfactory sensation;

> > " Burning " .

> > The trick to to distinguish acridity from

> > stench so there is no

> > need to run from harmless mVOC's.

> > I only respond to " sensation " and not to musty

> > smells.

> > I had heard of " spore clouds " but this didn't

> > reflect the action of

> > movement necessary to create a mental picture

> > of how these clouds

> > travel and " hit " you, so I started calling them

> > " spore plumes " .

> > Think " cigarette smoke " .

> > You can get a lungful, while it passes

> > unnoticed right past the

> > person sitting next to you.

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bbw <barb1283@...> wrote:

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> So just to be clear, you can have mycotoxins

> without VOCs but not VOCS without mycotoxins IF

> VOCS are from mold (not bacteria). Wouldn't you

> say that would be true? Since you would not have

> MOLD VOCs without mold colony near. It just

> would be a matter of telling mold VOCS from

> another organism emitting VOCS.

mVOC's are just the farts from what microbes eat.

It's the " chemical weapons " that some can produce that we have to

watch out for.

Sure we can have VOC's without mycotoxins. Lot's of 'em.

That's why I don't bother to run unless I perceive something a little

stronger. Either VOC's that happen to ALSO have secondary metabolites,

or just the reaction, even if I don't smell anything.

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