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Hello all

We've had major problems with rage and Tom over Christmas. We think

it's due to a combination of EDTA leaching his mins and VRM1 and VRM2

attacking his parasites. I've been referred to another site where

everybody's taken VRM1 and 2 and it can take months of vile aggression

to get to the gains. Soo, if you are prescribed it for your child I

would go in extremely slowly with it.

What I think is important to recognise is what happens when these

things die. Firstly, they don't want to die to they probably dig in

and fight back, and secondly they release all sorts of nasties when

they go, which then go into your child's system. Presumably giving

something not dissimilar to the hangover from hell. Then it would

seem that they can all reappear within weeks. Good grief.

We're on day 36 of a 60 day course. IF it turns out to be the VRM

causing hte aggression (and we've stopped the EDTA so all other

suspects are eliminated from our enquiries) that's a hell of a lot of

aggressive time ahead.

However, in his rage at least this time he hasn't regressed. In fact

between rages he's been lovely and affectionate and increasingly

verbal. Has anyone else seen good gains after successfully treating

for parasites? I could really do with some good news motivation on

the parasite front!

Happy new year everyone and look forward to putting some faces to

names at the conference next month.

Steph x

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Hi Steph,

I replied on willis but don't know if you got that one.

A rule of thumb is if it's aggression it's likely bacteria and if it's

inattention/drunken like behaviour poss with disturbed sleep it's

likely yeast.

If you're treating for yeast it's a good idea to have something to

control bacteria in place as well. Often if you treat for yeast then

bacteria likes to jump into the vacuum created from die off.

vrm1/2 looks like it's going to treat yeast from the ingredient list.

We've had aggression from nowhere a few times with son and every time

went away pronto when anti-bacterial used.

We usually treat with garlic (allimax), olive leaf extract etc but

last time didn't have any in so used goldenseal extract from hfs

(holland & barrat) - two days later all calm.

We've used it 1 week on, 1 week off... since then and no return of

aggression.

we give one ml twice a day on empty stomach (each ml equivalent to

250mg of herb). son 7 approx 27kg.

Hope it gets better soon as I know it's definately not any fun,

Mark

>

> Hello all

>

> We've had major problems with rage and Tom over Christmas. We think

> it's due to a combination of EDTA leaching his mins and VRM1 and VRM2

> attacking his parasites. I've been referred to another site where

> everybody's taken VRM1 and 2 and it can take months of vile aggression

> to get to the gains. Soo, if you are prescribed it for your child I

> would go in extremely slowly with it.

>

> What I think is important to recognise is what happens when these

> things die. Firstly, they don't want to die to they probably dig in

> and fight back, and secondly they release all sorts of nasties when

> they go, which then go into your child's system. Presumably giving

> something not dissimilar to the hangover from hell. Then it would

> seem that they can all reappear within weeks. Good grief.

>

> We're on day 36 of a 60 day course. IF it turns out to be the VRM

> causing hte aggression (and we've stopped the EDTA so all other

> suspects are eliminated from our enquiries) that's a hell of a lot of

> aggressive time ahead.

>

> However, in his rage at least this time he hasn't regressed. In fact

> between rages he's been lovely and affectionate and increasingly

> verbal. Has anyone else seen good gains after successfully treating

> for parasites? I could really do with some good news motivation on

> the parasite front!

>

> Happy new year everyone and look forward to putting some faces to

> names at the conference next month.

>

> Steph x

>

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