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i will play your opposite, for the sake of discusion (just don't look

at my spelling)...i love the sensuality of solids, altho they don't

stay around long. i haven't used alcohol much except recently, but i

want the experience of being a versitile artisan, so i dabble with it

and become pleasantly surprised. i do agree with your last statement,

tho...if YOU consider it a non-issue, then it shouldn't become one.

(we create with our thots as well as our little vials?)

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i will play your opposite, for the sake of discusion (just don't look

at my spelling)...i love the sensuality of solids, altho they don't

stay around long. i haven't used alcohol much except recently, but i

want the experience of being a versitile artisan, so i dabble with it

and become pleasantly surprised. i do agree with your last statement,

tho...if YOU consider it a non-issue, then it shouldn't become one.

(we create with our thots as well as our little vials?)

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Okay, since I am a loud mouth and generally the one in a corner on any board,

I've got to say something...........I sooooooooooooo want to use everclear and

vodka. And I have used the vodka and eo's as a replacement for

lysol..........but I have a 12 stepper in the family and I cant risk bringing

that in.........yikes. It would be sooooooooo much cheaper for me to do that in

place of using artisans alcohol......I did sneak in the vodka and made a bunch

of things with it and trashed the bottle and it was found and the look I got was

precious like 'omg, I finally drove her to it'.............LOL!

 

Good part is, whats in my sprays and tinctures etc has herbs and oils and all

sorts of things and the party in question doesn't know which is vodka or which

is alcohol or even if there is a blend of both (no I don't blend them but I do

allude to that fact heh heh).

 

I really don't want to use rubbing alcohol of any kind. It stinks . I just don't

like the smell.

 

er.....anonymously somebody you don't know nor have ever heard of or ever will

again ;)

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> Okay, since I am a loud mouth and generally the one in a corner on

any board, I've got to say something...........I sooooooooooooo want

to use everclear and vodka. And I have used the vodka and eo's as a

replacement for lysol..........but I have a 12 stepper in the family

and I cant risk bringing that in.........yikes.

Hi Evie,

Why not put something in the Everclear as soon as you get it in the

house, so that your 12-stepper won't be able to drink it? I have

grape perfumer's alcohol that was denatured (rendered icky-tasting)

with lavender oil. But you can denature it with other stuff. Like

hyraceum. (And who would EVER want to drink something that had

petrified rodent-doo in it? It smells like the elephant house at the

zoo.) Oh -- there are a lot of choices for you to use. You could

even divide your Everclear into smaller bottles and denature each with

a different ingredient so you wouldn't be tied to having, say,

lavender in every one of your perfume blends... (That's me all over

-- insisting that there's always a way to think yourself out of any

corner...)

Also - have you ever put Everclear on your tongue? It is A-1 nasty.

Like to burn a hole right through your tongue. I tried about a

teaspoon of it years ago and nearly croaked it was so awful.

Hope this helps!

Andrine

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> Okay, since I am a loud mouth and generally the one in a corner on

any board, I've got to say something...........I sooooooooooooo want

to use everclear and vodka. And I have used the vodka and eo's as a

replacement for lysol..........but I have a 12 stepper in the family

and I cant risk bringing that in.........yikes.

Hi Evie,

Why not put something in the Everclear as soon as you get it in the

house, so that your 12-stepper won't be able to drink it? I have

grape perfumer's alcohol that was denatured (rendered icky-tasting)

with lavender oil. But you can denature it with other stuff. Like

hyraceum. (And who would EVER want to drink something that had

petrified rodent-doo in it? It smells like the elephant house at the

zoo.) Oh -- there are a lot of choices for you to use. You could

even divide your Everclear into smaller bottles and denature each with

a different ingredient so you wouldn't be tied to having, say,

lavender in every one of your perfume blends... (That's me all over

-- insisting that there's always a way to think yourself out of any

corner...)

Also - have you ever put Everclear on your tongue? It is A-1 nasty.

Like to burn a hole right through your tongue. I tried about a

teaspoon of it years ago and nearly croaked it was so awful.

Hope this helps!

Andrine

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> Okay, since I am a loud mouth and generally the one in a corner on

any board, I've got to say something...........I sooooooooooooo want

to use everclear and vodka. And I have used the vodka and eo's as a

replacement for lysol..........but I have a 12 stepper in the family

and I cant risk bringing that in.........yikes.

Hi Evie,

Why not put something in the Everclear as soon as you get it in the

house, so that your 12-stepper won't be able to drink it? I have

grape perfumer's alcohol that was denatured (rendered icky-tasting)

with lavender oil. But you can denature it with other stuff. Like

hyraceum. (And who would EVER want to drink something that had

petrified rodent-doo in it? It smells like the elephant house at the

zoo.) Oh -- there are a lot of choices for you to use. You could

even divide your Everclear into smaller bottles and denature each with

a different ingredient so you wouldn't be tied to having, say,

lavender in every one of your perfume blends... (That's me all over

-- insisting that there's always a way to think yourself out of any

corner...)

Also - have you ever put Everclear on your tongue? It is A-1 nasty.

Like to burn a hole right through your tongue. I tried about a

teaspoon of it years ago and nearly croaked it was so awful.

Hope this helps!

Andrine

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Adam Gottschalk wrote:

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> I really don't like oil or solid perfumes. I feel as though I'm a

> trumpet player and someone said OK now play only with a mute. So it

> bothers me that there's this unfounded and ill-informed aversion to

> alcohol. As I get ready to start offering my first few products for

> sale (aside from 1000 questions in general), I am consciously

> deciding not to offer solid or oil perfumes. I don't like them so I

> worry I wouldn't do my best with them. And my experience is that if

> you don't even talk about the medium (alcohol, oil, etc.) folks won't

> even stop to think about it.

>

> Thoughts?

>

Hi Adam.....

I'm an Everclear 190 via filter user...

In addition to allergy problems, I think some folks have drying skin or

other dermal problems with alcohol......

Now....if yer selling stuff, ya probably have to disclose what's in it,

to a certain degree...Since alcohol makes up a probably large part of

whatever you are selling, it would have to be listed...

Should the question come up, I would point out that the organic alky

you're using isn't the denatured stuff that that the mainstream perfume

industry typically uses...One less possibly irritating chemical or set

of chemicals......

Mind ya....I'm not selling my things....but when I gift them I point

that my alky was drinkable.....Uhhhhhh....you need a strong windipe and

a certain amount of foolhardiness to do so....before I added whichever

to it.....

And that the whichevers are natural, not some fake doppleganger essence

popped out by the petrochemical and synthetics industry....

And my doppelgangers, if any, are real and natural.........

What a concept....real, natural doppelgangers....<G>...!

--

W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

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Selkie wrote:

> Okay, since I am a loud mouth and generally the one in a corner on any board,

> I've got to say something...........I sooooooooooooo want to use everclear and

> vodka. And I have used the vodka and eo's as a replacement for

lysol..........

> but I have a 12 stepper in the family and I cant risk bringing that

> in.........

> yikes. It would be sooooooooo much cheaper for me to do that in place of using

>artisans alcohol......

Hi Selkie.....

Remember.....you have to have high proof...190 proof (95%) for it to

work with most essences....

Get some....and put it into the artisans alcohol bottle or can or

however it comes........

--

W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

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I was reading an article today whilst sitting at my hair dressers. This

subject came up in one of their articles. It was talking about how to

wear your perfume. It basically said that our olfactory senses are so

inundated with fragrances all around us that subtlety is best. A lot of

offices are now going with a no fragrance policy, etc. But one way to

get around that is instead of using perfumes that you have to spray such

as those with an alcohol base to instead go with those that are solid or

oil based. It went on to give the consumer tips on how to wear solid

and oil based perfumes to their full advantage. It also talked about

how natural perfumes were so much better.

So, I don't think people are unfounded and ill-informed, but that

articles such as these are marketing towards the consumers. In a way

you can take advantage of it and play to that crowd who will like and

purchase perfumes made that way and then there will be those who still

want the alcohol based perfumes.

But, it was a good, well written article and made me pause to think of

different marketing strategies.

Best regards,

Nikie Brown

After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Bath Products

http://www.aftertherayne.com

nbrown@...

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> But one way to

> get around that is instead of using perfumes that you have to spray

> such

> as those with an alcohol base to instead go with those that are

> solid or

> oil based.

Thank you for your insightful post. I want to point out that

fractionated coconut oil works fine in an atomizer.

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Well, what works best for you but I learned the hard way that what I felt was

best was not as cool to others .......sigh.........I'll do a scented lotion,

most people or females use lotion, if their general soaps, lotions, shampoos and

conditioners are in sync with that then all things are sympatico to me. I do

like a spray if on clothing but I am often amazed at what other people want vs

what's good imho and what form.

 

Right now , tho people know I try to keep natural (I have both natural products

and 'compromise' items) and sadly the latter is what makes the money. drat.

 

Another thing to consider is also skin type. Oily vs Dry in what form works

best. If I recall oily skin does better with an alcohol base and dry with an oil

base........dont quote me on that, I'm sure others know which is which. I

haven't made any perfume in a long while and am simply trying to design one in

memory of my daughter , the proceeds going towards the ARDS foundation.....I am

not even near what I like so far.

 

and I'm never going to smell like a pumpkin....grrrrrrrr (I am soooooooo not

going there) and its just not natural to begin with and goofy to smell like

something I'd rather eat. what next 'bacon'?

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> ...and I'm never going to smell like a pumpkin....grrrrrrrr (I am

> soooooooo not going there) and its just not natural to begin with and

> goofy to smell like something I'd rather eat. what next 'bacon'?

Hee hee! There's a local joke gift shop here that sells band-aids

that look like a strip of bacon and they smell like bacon too. And

they also make bacon-flavored breath mints. Really whack-o silly place!

Andrine

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> ...and I'm never going to smell like a pumpkin....grrrrrrrr (I am

> soooooooo not going there) and its just not natural to begin with and

> goofy to smell like something I'd rather eat. what next 'bacon'?

Hee hee! There's a local joke gift shop here that sells band-aids

that look like a strip of bacon and they smell like bacon too. And

they also make bacon-flavored breath mints. Really whack-o silly place!

Andrine

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> and I'm never going to smell like a pumpkin....grrrrrrrr (I am

soooooooo not going there) and its just not natural to begin with and

goofy to smell like something I'd rather eat. what next 'bacon'?

> here's another way to look at that...back when i first mey my

husband, i was into roasting pecans (to eat)and i (what i thot was )

casually mentioned to him that they smelled so good, if it were a

cologne, i'd devour whoever was wearing it. he nearly swooned! i

have distilled roasted pecans, just to see what would happen. the

flavor actually came thru. lately, with all this talk of cacao, i

have been thinking of combining the two. doesn't sound TOO weird to

me!

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> and I'm never going to smell like a pumpkin....grrrrrrrr (I am

soooooooo not going there) and its just not natural to begin with and

goofy to smell like something I'd rather eat. what next 'bacon'?

> here's another way to look at that...back when i first mey my

husband, i was into roasting pecans (to eat)and i (what i thot was )

casually mentioned to him that they smelled so good, if it were a

cologne, i'd devour whoever was wearing it. he nearly swooned! i

have distilled roasted pecans, just to see what would happen. the

flavor actually came thru. lately, with all this talk of cacao, i

have been thinking of combining the two. doesn't sound TOO weird to

me!

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> Roasted pecans and cocoa sounds delightful. Maybe you could try

> roasted hazelnuts?

>

i can't eat them so i've never done them, but it does sound fabulous.

spraying the cacao on my face is a real kick. (with or with

raspberries) i have some vanilla beans sitting around waiting on me to

get them in the line up. i'll let you know if the hazelnuts happen!

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> What sort of alcohol do you use, grape, grain, 190 proof, everclear,

> etc.?

>

> It's a big thorn in my side that so many people think they're

> allergic to alcohol..<<

We get this a LOT too, with our extracts, people freaked out about the

alcohol content. Ours are for internal use, not perfumes, but we do

use the best quality available- 95% from Biodynamically-grown grape

wine for most of our line, and organic grain for the lower-priced ones.

I respect that many people choose not to ingest any alcohol at all for

many reasons that are deeply held and well thought-out, if someone

says they have a religious or recovery reason, I don't push the issue

at all. But for most of the people that are averse to it, it's really

just weird paranoia and bad understanding of science and allergens.

I don't know if my usual reply to the paranoid helps with perfumery

sales, too, but I usually point out how much alcohol is naturally in

so many things. So, if someone says, I can't try that, I am " allergic "

to alcohol, or alcohol makes me ill, etc., I point out that there is

more alcohol in a ripe banana than in a dose of my medicines. Many

people are surprised by that & realize that since they eat bananas

without ill effect, maybe I'm not trying to poison them after all!

Maybe translatable to topical use somehow?

-leavesofjoy / Micah

www.al-kemi.com

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> What sort of alcohol do you use, grape, grain, 190 proof, everclear,

> etc.?

>

> It's a big thorn in my side that so many people think they're

> allergic to alcohol..<<

We get this a LOT too, with our extracts, people freaked out about the

alcohol content. Ours are for internal use, not perfumes, but we do

use the best quality available- 95% from Biodynamically-grown grape

wine for most of our line, and organic grain for the lower-priced ones.

I respect that many people choose not to ingest any alcohol at all for

many reasons that are deeply held and well thought-out, if someone

says they have a religious or recovery reason, I don't push the issue

at all. But for most of the people that are averse to it, it's really

just weird paranoia and bad understanding of science and allergens.

I don't know if my usual reply to the paranoid helps with perfumery

sales, too, but I usually point out how much alcohol is naturally in

so many things. So, if someone says, I can't try that, I am " allergic "

to alcohol, or alcohol makes me ill, etc., I point out that there is

more alcohol in a ripe banana than in a dose of my medicines. Many

people are surprised by that & realize that since they eat bananas

without ill effect, maybe I'm not trying to poison them after all!

Maybe translatable to topical use somehow?

-leavesofjoy / Micah

www.al-kemi.com

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Hi ,

It was something called Lucky or Lucky You? I'm really not much of a

magazine reader, but it had some decent articles in it. It was

basically a fashion magazine that wasn't so crazy as most are. I like

the Real Simple type of magazine, but also like to see what some of the

neat and new things are out there that isn't all about celebrity. It

was interesting enough that I actually thought of looking at the

magazine aisle today while grocery shopping to see if I could find a

copy! But, I forgot. LOL!

Nikie Brown

After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Bath Products

http://www.aftertherayne.com

nbrown@...

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Hi ,

It was something called Lucky or Lucky You? I'm really not much of a

magazine reader, but it had some decent articles in it. It was

basically a fashion magazine that wasn't so crazy as most are. I like

the Real Simple type of magazine, but also like to see what some of the

neat and new things are out there that isn't all about celebrity. It

was interesting enough that I actually thought of looking at the

magazine aisle today while grocery shopping to see if I could find a

copy! But, I forgot. LOL!

Nikie Brown

After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Bath Products

http://www.aftertherayne.com

nbrown@...

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