Re: livesimply

[Guest guest]

Jeanine,

Please don't misunderstand me. I know EXACTLY what you are talking

about because at the apartment I was living at until I finally got out

a few months ago everything i owned was covered with mold dust. Yes,

often blackish mold dust. Much of what I own still smells and it still

makes me react (in my case, I get tired and get headaches) when I get

lots of exposure to it.

My old place was a true nightmare with multiple problems and many

different water intrusion issues. The landlord there basically refused

to fix the problems and to my knowledge still has not acknowledged or

addressed them in any meaningful way.

But so far my new place does not have the same issues - thank god -

the generation of new mold - because

1.) it is not leaking and flooding everywhere, even though it is also

an older building, its dry.

2.) I am trying my best to keep humidity down in every possible way.

3.) When I unpack boxes from my old place (which I tried to clean as i

was packing them as well) I HEPA vacumn things as they come out of the

boxes. (I also have an air cleaner which I run when i need to - esp.

when unpacking).

Even with that my ears often end up ringing and I get that fatigue

feeling when I unpack.. sometimes it lasts for days..and also when I

get mold exposure outside..

Please everyone, don't condemn me for trying to keep stuff.. I just

couldn't afford to throw it all way, as I am still unemployed and

trying to recover enough to get back into the workplace - but its

hard.

On 7/25/06, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

> I think you are missing my point about the toy in the tub being covered

> with black mold. its basicly is the same as the fruit and bread concept.

> what I am saying is that if your in a home where the mold problem has

> evolved to being filtrated through out your home its going to land and

> grow where ever it can. like what kc stated about the black dust at

> his wife's work place, I noticed that the dust in my home was black not

> brown, didn't have a clue than, why, but I get it now. this is another

> sign and people that dont get it are maybe not liveing in those

> condictions, where it has filtrated in your home to that extent.

> the last apartment I was in had a mold problem. the time of year and

> maybe my nose played a part in me not knowing but within a week I knew

> from my symptoms getting aggervated.

> I constantly fought mold in the shower in that place. my habits have

> not changed, yet here in this apartment, so far, I have not had this

> problem. same town, same water. 3 blocks apart. if anyone can amagine

> the dust in theri home being black and being able to land on anything

> that has moisture and food supply and growing, like fruit, a loaf of

> bread, a wet toy in the tub, dirty dishes setting, dish water setting,

> a leak somewhere, etc. they can see how mold can spread, more so than

> just starting from a leak and spores that come in from outside.

> that second home I bought had been abandoned for years, closed up

> and the mold there is everywhere, some places is just dry mold dust,

> other places where water or moisture is more available, its growing.

> mold does not just get where water and food supply helps it grow, it

> gets everywhere and

> and grows if it has the right condictions. the dry mold dust is what

> gets stirred up by wind,foot traffic, vacumming, ect. when a home has a

> severe mold problem to this point your not just breathing mold spores

> from mold that is in the growing process, your breathing old dry spores

> and what ever else is envolved that are traped inside your home and

> still floating around that are stirred up for what ever reasons.

> than if its stachy, and its filtrated through your whole house, you may

> also be getting exposed to toxins every time the dust gets stired up.

> and Im limiting it to this because its been the only one tested to show

> that the mycotoxins stay toxic for years even when its dry. and from

> what I read and understand, stachy spores often do not pick up on air

> tests because they are heavier but that doesn't stop the toxins from

> being airborne.

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[Guest guest]

air conditioners are hard. My friend takes my two apart every few weeks and

cleans it out and sprays the coils with whit vinegar for me as it does not take

long to build up mold and make me sick.

[Guest guest]

Live,

I wish there was a simpler way! I can sympathize with your position.

I wasn't going to admit this to the group but now that you made your

confession.

I will make mine.

I am planning on taking my trailer to North Carolina in the mountains.

If it doesn't work out I will keep it to store all of my moldy items

in until I can figure out what I want to do with them. The trailer

does not leak and their appears to be no mold actively growing in it.

Just all of the spores I brought with me especially from that monitor

I brought with me.

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/rchrist9/

I know this goes against the grain of this group.

My own unprofessional opinion is if you bring your stuff you are

bringing mainly spores which are not dangerous until they find water

(I hope). So you are playing with fire without a doubt but if in the

unlikely chance they don't find water you will be ok. Hopefully,.... I

am just trying to be real, people can't just keep abandoning all of

their processions and there homes. There has to be a better way! I

am not endorsing that others do this nor am I trying to discredit

others in this group. There just has to be a better way. I will let

everyone know how it works out and they can learn from my experience.

I would recommend that others not do what I am doing because I have a

plan B, I plan on evacuating the trailer if it does not work. Most

people don't have this option.

But for Live and others in his position,

Be extremely vigilant. Don't allow any moisture.

This means under the refrigerator, under the sink, any roof leaks, the

wash machine, make sure the dryer is vented well, damp clothing, the

water heater, any pipes, and especially the mold generator uh oh, I

mean air conditioner. This is the double edged sword, you need an ac

or dehumidifier to keep the humidity down and keep the outside spores

from affecting you but these devices can be deadly, just add spores.

I had a gallon of ac coil cleaner I gave to my dad when I abandoned

my house. He found it and gave it back to me. I didn't realize how un

effective bleach and ammonia are until I tried this stuff. It foams

and a chemical reaction with the contaminants on the coils makes the

foam warm to the touch. It is very toxic My lungs hurt from just one

slight whiff of it. I have to run fans when I clean with it but it

works great. Highly recommended. You absolutely must rinse the coils

thoroughly or you might be doing more harm to your health from the

soap than good from removing the mold. Below is a link that

advertises coil cleaners, I can't vouch for them have not used them

but it gives you an idea of what I am talking about.

http://www.hydrobalance.com/CoilCleanersHome.htm

The problem with using ac units is that it only takes (again I am not

a pro) about 2 days for mold to grow from spores and start producing

toxins. So it's not practical to clean your coils everyday, that is

why I am moving to a cooler climate. Because that is what I have been

having to do. I am hoping that running the heater won't cause me any

moisture issues. I suppose as long as I leave a window cracked for it

to escape I will be ok.

>Please everyone, don't condemn me for trying to keep stuff.. I just

>couldn't afford to throw it all way, as I am still unemployed and

>trying to recover enough to get back into the workplace - but its

>hard.

[Guest guest]

Im noy going to condem anyone for keeping things, I didn't get

things out of my second house that I could have saved and now their

beyond saveing, mainly my antique books, I did get some and I set

outside with a bucket of water with amonia in it and wiped them down

as best as possible, let them dry and put them in plastic containers.

weather I will ever be able to tolorate opening them, I dont know. I

left everything the was porus like mattress, couch chairs, mainly

because this house made them wet to the touch and mold spots were

already forming. but I did save some pictures that were in frames,

wiped down with water and amonia, and bed frame, antique rocking

chairs etc. I set everything in my yard and it stayed there until I

felt it was clean and free of spores. with wood makes sure you clean

in the joints, where wood meets wood. there was a chase lougne that

my daughter and i had recovered that I was not going to part with, I

put on my mask, outside, took a broom and beat the crap out of it,

washed it down as well as I could and let it set in the sun a few

days. it doesnt bother me. I cried when I found that my old trunk had

soaked up moisture through the bottom and had ruined many pictures

and negitives of those pictures, mainly of my daughters as babies,

hard lesson learned, trunk and contants were beyond saveing. I took

the back off my tv and carefully shopvaced the dust out. haveing been

a antique nut most of my life, I bought things that didn't smell the

greatest and usually aired them out several days outside, cleaned

them and brought them inside, amazing what sun and air can

do.

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> Live,

>

> I wish there was a simpler way! I can sympathize with your

position.

>

> I wasn't going to admit this to the group but now that you made your

> confession.

>

> I will make mine.

>

> I am planning on taking my trailer to North Carolina in the

mountains.

> If it doesn't work out I will keep it to store all of my moldy items

> in until I can figure out what I want to do with them. The trailer

> does not leak and their appears to be no mold actively growing in

it.

> Just all of the spores I brought with me especially from that

monitor

> I brought with me.

> http://home.tampabay.rr.com/rchrist9/

> I know this goes against the grain of this group.

> My own unprofessional opinion is if you bring your stuff you are

> bringing mainly spores which are not dangerous until they find

water

> (I hope). So you are playing with fire without a doubt but if in

the

> unlikely chance they don't find water you will be ok.

Hopefully,.... I

> am just trying to be real, people can't just keep abandoning all of

> their processions and there homes. There has to be a better way!

I

> am not endorsing that others do this nor am I trying to discredit

> others in this group. There just has to be a better way. I will let

> everyone know how it works out and they can learn from my

experience.

> I would recommend that others not do what I am doing because I have

a

> plan B, I plan on evacuating the trailer if it does not work. Most

> people don't have this option.

>

> But for Live and others in his position,

>

> Be extremely vigilant. Don't allow any moisture.

>

> This means under the refrigerator, under the sink, any roof leaks,

the

> wash machine, make sure the dryer is vented well, damp clothing, the

> water heater, any pipes, and especially the mold generator uh oh, I

> mean air conditioner. This is the double edged sword, you need an

ac

> or dehumidifier to keep the humidity down and keep the outside

spores

> from affecting you but these devices can be deadly, just add spores.

>

> I had a gallon of ac coil cleaner I gave to my dad when I abandoned

> my house. He found it and gave it back to me. I didn't realize how

un

> effective bleach and ammonia are until I tried this stuff. It foams

> and a chemical reaction with the contaminants on the coils makes

the

> foam warm to the touch. It is very toxic My lungs hurt from just one

> slight whiff of it. I have to run fans when I clean with it but it

> works great. Highly recommended. You absolutely must rinse the coils

> thoroughly or you might be doing more harm to your health from the

> soap than good from removing the mold. Below is a link that

> advertises coil cleaners, I can't vouch for them have not used them

> but it gives you an idea of what I am talking about.

> http://www.hydrobalance.com/CoilCleanersHome.htm

> The problem with using ac units is that it only takes (again I am

not

> a pro) about 2 days for mold to grow from spores and start producing

> toxins. So it's not practical to clean your coils everyday, that is

> why I am moving to a cooler climate. Because that is what I have

been

> having to do. I am hoping that running the heater won't cause me any

> moisture issues. I suppose as long as I leave a window cracked for

it

> to escape I will be ok.

>

>

>

>

>

> >Please everyone, don't condemn me for trying to keep stuff.. I just

> >couldn't afford to throw it all way, as I am still unemployed and

> >trying to recover enough to get back into the workplace - but its

> >hard.

>