Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 For Tristen, She was low on the growth charts until she was started on subq and then she started growing like a weed. I think between her being sick all the time, not eating and all the meds she was on...she just wasn't growing. Now that she's more healthy than sick...she eats a lot more! le ________________________________ From: stacy171 <stacy171@...> Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 10:08:11 AM Subject: Height/weight question My 5yo with low IgG and IgM used to be in the 90th percentile for height and weight until about 1 1/2 years ago. He's starting to drop off in both height and weight. He's now in the 30th percentile for both. Is that something I should be concerned about? He does have bowel issues so I'm wondering if it's a malabsorption issue. We're still working on a diagnosis, so pardon my questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 For Tristen, She was low on the growth charts until she was started on subq and then she started growing like a weed. I think between her being sick all the time, not eating and all the meds she was on...she just wasn't growing. Now that she's more healthy than sick...she eats a lot more! le ________________________________ From: stacy171 <stacy171@...> Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 10:08:11 AM Subject: Height/weight question My 5yo with low IgG and IgM used to be in the 90th percentile for height and weight until about 1 1/2 years ago. He's starting to drop off in both height and weight. He's now in the 30th percentile for both. Is that something I should be concerned about? He does have bowel issues so I'm wondering if it's a malabsorption issue. We're still working on a diagnosis, so pardon my questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I would. You might ask if he can have a growth plate xray done. It's where they take an xray of his hand and wrist and make sure that he's where he should be with his growth plates. It's not unheard of for PID patients to need growth hormone. Ursula Holleman mom to (16) and Macey (14) www.caringbridge.org/visit/maceyholleman From: stacy171@... Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:08:11 +0000 Subject: Height/weight question My 5yo with low IgG and IgM used to be in the 90th percentile for height and weight until about 1 1/2 years ago. He's starting to drop off in both height and weight. He's now in the 30th percentile for both. Is that something I should be concerned about? He does have bowel issues so I'm wondering if it's a malabsorption issue. We're still working on a diagnosis, so pardon my questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Personnally I wouldn't worry about where on the growth chart your child is as long as they are in good health and properly proportioned. These charts are based on an assemblage of data across the popultaion and just because a child may be at the lower end of the spectrum does not mean there is a problem as there have to be highs and lows...that's what makes it an average. I'm not trying to knock your concern as with a health challenged child everything is a concern...just suggesting for discussion that the emphasis that pediatricians place on " getting your child higher up in the curve " seems to be frightening parents when there may be nothing wrong with the child other than god just planned for them to be at the small end of the growth charts. I saw this in my own wife when for years she was concerned that my son wasn't putting on much weight. He was not starving or stick-like and he was eating well, but until he put on 5 inches and 35# in the last year, she was always afraid he was a " failure to thrive " case because he was so low on the charts. Jon _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL\ :ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:102009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 IME, if a kid is always smallish, and stays on that curve, then they probably are just set up to be smallish. If a kid is on a higher curve and suddenly drops and stays dropped, there is usually a problem. I have a daughter with CVID and asthma, and when she was sicker, she has had so much trouble gaining and maintaining a decent weight. Now she is better, her troughs are higher and lung function better, she is gaining and getting taller. My youngest with CVID and asthma IS failure to thrive. He is 7 and a half, just growing out of toddler size clothes and is constitutionally bone growth delayed, with a delay of about two yrs, including his teeth, which is currently blamed on his chronic illness......he burns so many calories to beat bacteria all the time, he just doesnt have any left over to put towards growing. He is on a high calorie diet but really struggles to gain and keep that weight on. valarie > > > Personnally I wouldn't worry about where on the growth chart your child is as long as they are in good health and properly proportioned. These charts are based on an assemblage of data across the popultaion and just because a child may be at the lower end of the spectrum does not mean there is a problem as there have to be highs and lows...that's what makes it an average. I'm not trying to knock your concern as with a health challenged child everything is a concern...just suggesting for discussion that the emphasis that pediatricians place on " getting your child higher up in the curve " seems to be frightening parents when there may be nothing wrong with the child other than god just planned for them to be at the small end of the growth charts. I saw this in my own wife when for years she was concerned that my son wasn't putting on much weight. He was not starving or stick-like and he was eating well, but until he put on 5 inches and 35# in the last year, she was always afraid he was a " failure to thrive " case because he was so low on the charts. > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL\ :ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:102009 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I was concerned because he recently dropped off from 90th percentile. He was 90th percentile for 3 1/2 years and the last 1 1/2 years he's dropped down to 30th percentile. I thought it might be another sign of his disease progression. If he had always been 30th percentile, I wouldn't be as concerned. But, yes, we worry over everything! ________________________________ From: JON FISHEL <jfishel@...> Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 5:41:17 PM Subject: RE: Height/weight question Personnally I wouldn't worry about where on the growth chart your child is as long as they are in good health and properly proportioned. These charts are based on an assemblage of data across the popultaion and just because a child may be at the lower end of the spectrum does not mean there is a problem as there have to be highs and lows...that' s what makes it an average. I'm not trying to knock your concern as with a health challenged child everything is a concern...just suggesting for discussion that the emphasis that pediatricians place on " getting your child higher up in the curve " seems to be frightening parents when there may be nothing wrong with the child other than god just planned for them to be at the small end of the growth charts. I saw this in my own wife when for years she was concerned that my son wasn't putting on much weight. He was not starving or stick-like and he was eating well, but until he put on 5 inches and 35# in the last year, she was always afraid he was a " failure to thrive " case because he was so low on the charts. Jon ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsof t.com/Windows/ windows-7/ default.aspx? ocid=PID24727: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WWL_WIN_ evergreen2: 102009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Thank you for all of your help! We are going to see an immunologist in January. I would love to go now but we need to wait for our insurance to change so we can see a decent immunologist. I appreciate your insight - thank you ________________________________ From: Ursula Holleman <uahollem@...> Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 4:15:29 PM Subject: RE: Height/weight question I would. You might ask if he can have a growth plate xray done. It's where they take an xray of his hand and wrist and make sure that he's where he should be with his growth plates. It's not unheard of for PID patients to need growth hormone. Ursula Holleman mom to (16) and Macey (14) www.caringbridge. org/visit/ maceyholleman groups (DOT) com From: stacy171 (DOT) com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:08:11 +0000 Subject: Height/weight question My 5yo with low IgG and IgM used to be in the 90th percentile for height and weight until about 1 1/2 years ago. He's starting to drop off in both height and weight. He's now in the 30th percentile for both. Is that something I should be concerned about? He does have bowel issues so I'm wondering if it's a malabsorption issue. We're still working on a diagnosis, so pardon my questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Thanks, . Did you do bone scans on your kids? Failure to thrive is such an uphill battle. ________________________________ From: osdbmom <osdbmom@...> Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 10:16:44 AM Subject: Re: Height/weight question IME, if a kid is always smallish, and stays on that curve, then they probably are just set up to be smallish. If a kid is on a higher curve and suddenly drops and stays dropped, there is usually a problem. I have a daughter with CVID and asthma, and when she was sicker, she has had so much trouble gaining and maintaining a decent weight. Now she is better, her troughs are higher and lung function better, she is gaining and getting taller. My youngest with CVID and asthma IS failure to thrive. He is 7 and a half, just growing out of toddler size clothes and is constitutionally bone growth delayed, with a delay of about two yrs, including his teeth, which is currently blamed on his chronic illness..... .he burns so many calories to beat bacteria all the time, he just doesnt have any left over to put towards growing. He is on a high calorie diet but really struggles to gain and keep that weight on. valarie > > > Personnally I wouldn't worry about where on the growth chart your child is as long as they are in good health and properly proportioned. These charts are based on an assemblage of data across the popultaion and just because a child may be at the lower end of the spectrum does not mean there is a problem as there have to be highs and lows...that' s what makes it an average. I'm not trying to knock your concern as with a health challenged child everything is a concern...just suggesting for discussion that the emphasis that pediatricians place on " getting your child higher up in the curve " seems to be frightening parents when there may be nothing wrong with the child other than god just planned for them to be at the small end of the growth charts. I saw this in my own wife when for years she was concerned that my son wasn't putting on much weight. He was not starving or stick-like and he was eating well, but until he put on 5 inches and 35# in the last year, she was always afraid he was a " failure to thrive " case because he was so low on the charts. > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > http://www.microsof t.com/Windows/ windows-7/ default.aspx? ocid=PID24727: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WWL_WIN_ evergreen2: 102009 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Yes, we did one on Brennan in August. At age 7 and a half, his gone age was about 5 yrs. So he has room to grow still, and thats good, its just that he is really small:) and his friends are all shooting up taller than he is. But he's ok with it:) valarie > > > > > > Personnally I wouldn't worry about where on the growth chart your child is as long as they are in good health and properly proportioned. These charts are based on an assemblage of data across the popultaion and just because a child may be at the lower end of the spectrum does not mean there is a problem as there have to be highs and lows...that' s what makes it an average. I'm not trying to knock your concern as with a health challenged child everything is a concern...just suggesting for discussion that the emphasis that pediatricians place on " getting your child higher up in the curve " seems to be frightening parents when there may be nothing wrong with the child other than god just planned for them to be at the small end of the growth charts. I saw this in my own wife when for years she was concerned that my son wasn't putting on much weight. He was not starving or stick-like and he was eating well, but until he put on 5 inches and 35# in the last > year, she was always afraid he was a " failure to thrive " case because he was so low on the charts. > > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > > http://www.microsof t.com/Windows/ windows-7/ default.aspx? ocid=PID24727: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WWL_WIN_ evergreen2: 102009 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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