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To add another perspective to your problem--my doctors were very

clear that I must avoid mold. It was my understanding that if I took

shots while I was exposed to mold I could become more sensitized.

Maybe this is what happened to you.

--- In , " crainedavid " <dcmold@...>

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>

> I am sure that many others have had great results with Allergy

Shots

> as I initially did. I started with food shots then moved to

pollens

> & grasses but when Molds were added to my twice weekly shots I

became

> very chemically sensitive (Bubble Boy).

>

> Not knowing at the time that our home had a mold growth behind a

> bathroom tub (a plumbing error causing water to leak into the wall

> when the shower was used) once the mold was cleaned up and stopped

> taking allergy shots my chemical sensitivities improved by 80%.

>

> In discussion with Dr. Shoemaker years later, he stated that

> continually pumping Mycotoxins (Mold Allegy Shots)into a person's

> body might seem to help - it might also (As in my case) be that

extra

> load that sends you over the edge.

>

> That must be why Dr. Shoemaker's approach is removal of Bio-toxins

> and treating body functions that are out of balance - and doesn't

do

> any of the high-dollar allergy testing / treatment.

>

> Maybe I am just one in a million - but 4 years later my wife went

> chemically sensitive during testing in the doctor's office in a

well-

> known Dallas clinic.

>

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Perhaps you dog has chicken bacteria, it would not be advisable to force it to eat chicken if this is the case. Also chicken link emotionally is guilt is it not? Animals get the same problems as we do. There are so many other foods why force it to eat something it does not want? Bye Sue

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Heidi: You have someone whose specialty is neuro-endocrine??? I didn't know of that specialty and it seems like a good one to have if you have both issues. I may have to do some exploring on that.

S.

Allergies

My Neuro-Endocrine DR is testing me for Gluten sensitivity too with

a blood test. I have osteoporosis. She informed me in 75% of the

cases she has seen most of the people with severe osteoporosis like

me have a sensitivity to Gluten. then after she gets all the tests

back she is doing on me. She will then do one on me for reactive

hypoglycemia. Since I have already low blood sugar.

I don't crave carbs at all but salty things like pickles or sliced

tomatoes drizzled with oil, lemon juice topped with salt. which is

weird .

That means adrenal gland trouble sos he is checking for that too.

But yes I am allergic to Pork got that from my dads side of the

family.My Moms side was allergic to Vitamin C so I am Glad I got he

Pork allergies.

Best of luck with this elimination diet you are doing. My PCP told me

once if you eat something wake up next day not feeling right look at

what you ate. It is your body saying," Get that poison out of me."

then do not eat that piece of food you ate again."

But best of luck let us know what they find out. I am not of a

breakfast eater I have my thyroid with water then a cup of hot tea

with a slice of bread either with cream cheese or peanut butter on

it around 9-10.

But yes the elimination way is the best way for us to go first. then

keep a detailed list of everything we eat including drinks, spices,

oils etc to show to our Dr and have how you feel the next day too.

Gentle hugs

Heidi

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It's interesting how you've said that " a gluten allergy has all the

symptoms listed as the symptoms of fibro. " My diet is gluten-free

because I get debilitating symptoms if I eat the known gluten-culprits.

I thought oats contained gluten? Because if they don't I'd definately

eat it. As oats is yummy, and nutritious. Hope you see health

improvements from this. hugs Carlene

Some things I have found .. want to share. Diary products cause pain.

Milk is in so many things too. Also, I think I am allergic

to gluton. I have been doing some reearch on the net, ) know all sites

aren't correct), but in lots of places, a gluton allergy has

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I get overly acidic eating oatmeal. Boohoo, because I love it. Noticed

that I have to avoid oats, orange juice, and tomatoey things like

pizza. Otherwise my bladder goes crazy. - Dom

>

>

>

> It's interesting how you've said that " a gluten allergy has all the

> symptoms listed as the symptoms of fibro. " My diet is gluten-free

> because I get debilitating symptoms if I eat the known gluten-culprits.

> I thought oats contained gluten? Because if they don't I'd definately

> eat it. As oats is yummy, and nutritious. Hope you see health

> improvements from this. hugs Carlene

>

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Dom, I used to eat a ton of oatmeal as a kid. And still ate it - up to

maybe 10-years, ago. It's great stuff. This gluten-acid problem worries

me, though. Funny you mention tomatoes. I had a hunch, recently that

they're not agreeing with me. So, I've cut right down on them. Enjoy

your day...Carlene

>

> I get overly acidic eating oatmeal. Boohoo, because I love it. Noticed

> that I have to avoid oats, orange juice, and tomatoey things like

> pizza. Otherwise my bladder goes crazy. - Dom

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Dom: Do you have interstitial cystitis? I know those foods can wreak havoc on women with that disorder.

S.

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I get overly acidic eating oatmeal. Boohoo, because I love it. Noticed

that I have to avoid oats, orange juice, and tomatoey things like

pizza. Otherwise my bladder goes crazy. - Dom

>

>

>

> It's interesting how you've said that "a gluten allergy has all the

> symptoms listed as the symptoms of fibro." My diet is gluten-free

> because I get debilitating symptoms if I eat the known gluten-culprits.

> I thought oats contained gluten? Because if they don't I'd definately

> eat it. As oats is yummy, and nutritious. Hope you see health

> improvements from this. hugs Carlene

>

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, what is interstitial cystitis? And how is it treated! I think

I've read here that you're a nurse. Maybe you can help me with another

problem.

My husband complains of sore, stiff calf muscles. He's had this problem

for years. When he walks a certain distance - he has to stop. He

complains of stiffness, and soreness. Plus the calf-muscles are really

quite large. Any help will be appreciated. Gentle hugs Carlene

It's interesting how you've said that " a gluten allergy has all the

symptoms listed as the symptoms of fibro. " My diet is gluten-free

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Hi, Just so you know Gluten is in most oatmeals so if you are trying to

eliminate Gluten oatmeal is a no no. Gluten is in a lot of different

foods and has many different names!! Carolyn White

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Hi Carolyn, do you have a general list of foods containing gluten. And

what are the 'many different names of gluten'. This information would be

very useful, for me, too. Appreciate your help Carlene

Hi, Just so you know Gluten is in most oatmeals so if you are trying to

eliminate Gluten oatmeal is a no no. Gluten is in a lot of different

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I also love oatmeal. The pain is too much in my guts. Every once in a while I consider buying it again and taking my chances, then I remember the pain from the last time I tried. I was laying on the floor crying clenching my stomach and intestines begging God to put me out of my misery. It is bittersweet. I love it so much.

Stacie

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G'day Carol, What a great site. Thanks for this information. It saves us

all so much time when someone else has already put in the groundwork.

Enjoy your day! Carlene

Hi Carlene, You can go to Celiac.com for a list of Gluten free foods &

recipes!! Carolyn

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Carlene: Interstititial Cystitis is a chronic painful bladder condition where there is persistent inflammation in the walls of the bladder. Some patients have such severe pain with this that they eventually have their bladders surgically removed. There are other less extreme treatments including diet, bladder instillations and meds. You can look it up on one of the websites for medical info that you trust.

I can't diagnose your husband, of course, but it sounds a bit like Peripheral Artery Disease. You can also look that up on a site such as WebMd.

I hope he gets that pain checked out.

S.

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, what is interstitial cystitis? And how is it treated! I think

I've read here that you're a nurse. Maybe you can help me with another

problem.

My husband complains of sore, stiff calf muscles. He's had this problem

for years. When he walks a certain distance - he has to stop. He

complains of stiffness, and soreness. Plus the calf-muscles are really

quite large. Any help will be appreciated. Gentle hugs Carlene

It's interesting how you've said that "a gluten allergy has all the

symptoms listed as the symptoms of fibro." My diet is gluten-free

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Personally as someone who has gone through all of this and come out

the other side(so to speak) I have found for me that grains and beans

need to be very limited in my diet. I do eat some grains however

they are the non-gluten ones like buckwheat(which isn't wheat at all)

and millet and Ezekiel products(they are whole grains and not flour

products) The oatmeal I eat once every two weeks is a hybrid form

without gluten and I tolerate it wonderfully however the gluten form

causes muscle cramping. Bob's Red Mills makes this oatmeal. The

beans I buy are organic and from Eden and they are canned with just

some kombu and only 30 mg of Sodium per serving. I do throw away the

juice that comes in the can however you really don't need to and when

I make beef or turkey chili I use all the juices as it gives the chili

a great flavor. These cans usually sell for $1.49 per can in my local

Shop-Rite however if you call Eden and ask them to send you

coupons--they will. .55 cents coupon double at my Shop-Rite and I get

cans of organic Eden beans for $.39--much less than any other regular

nonorganic brands. My point here is that even in illness, THERE IS

ALWAYS A SOLUTION AND ALWAYS A WAY. You just need to look and get

creative to find it.

My diet is very simple. All organic proteins, lots of

vegetables(some organic, some not--certain ones you must buy organic),

a small amount of fruit, grain and legumes(beans, lentils and peas,

etc.) It works for me and many of my friends who have fibro. When I

deviate, my fibro acts up so I see the relationship immediately.

Straight to my muscles. Hope this helps.

> >

> > I get overly acidic eating oatmeal. Boohoo, because I love it. Noticed

> > that I have to avoid oats, orange juice, and tomatoey things like

> > pizza. Otherwise my bladder goes crazy. - Dom

>

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Hi there...it sounds like this works very well for you. It's all so

interesting. If I recall correctly, buckwheat's a member of the rhubarb

family. Your comment, " THERE IS ALWAYS A SOLUTION AND ALWAYS A WAY. "

This reminds me of something I read, years ago. That 'where there is

disease - there is also a cure' - and 'an extreme illness requires an

extreme remedy'. But, don't quote me - brainfog!

I've simplified my diet, too. To the point where others might consider

my diet...weird. I also eat lots of vegetables, some herbs, and plenty

of berries. Should we Fibro. people only be eating " small amounts of

fruits? " Can fruits cause problems? Thanks for sharing. It all helps.

Take care Carlene

Personally as someone who has gone through all of this and come out

the other side(so to speak) I have found for me that grains and beans

need to be very limited in my diet. I do eat some grains however

they are the non-gluten ones like buckwheat(which isn't wheat at all)

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-I can't speak for anyone else except for me. Limiting my complex

carbs of starchy veggies, fruits, grains and beans has helped me

tremendously. I never limit the low complex carbs of veggies like

salad, greens, green beans, squash, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. These

are high vitamin-mineral rich items that are low in carbs and usually

don't need limiting unless one is sensitive to them. I do rotate my

foods. I only eat 1/2 piece of fruit every other day because when I do

eat more the cravings begin again and the symptoms begin again and

before I know it I'm in a full fledged binge and wondering why I ate

the whole 1/2 gallon of Friendly's Pistachio ice cream the next day

and why I was at a loss to stop it even though I know better. (Once

my addictive mind gets a taste of too much sweetness it just clicks on

and I'm in an addictive obsessive-compulsive mode. When I limit my

sweet tasting items to a small portion per day, I am free of cravings

and addictive behavior. Pretty cool, huh!!!). And I only eat low

carbs fruits like a 1/2 of a small apple/pear or papaya for the

enzymes. Quantity is just as key as the quality. A good book to read

about food is Ann Marie Colbin's " Food and Healing " . I picked up

this book back in 1988 when I became disabled the first time with FMS

and it has been my food bible ever since. She talks in there how some

people can eat grains and beans and feel satiated and wonderful and it

works for them. Whereas others eat it and they feel deprived,

depressed, and have a lack of energy. The book has been revised a few

times since those days however I have the new version and it is

basically a good book to have in your library when dealing with a

syndrome like FMS. My diet is moderate protein(at every meal--when

you have muscular issues think protein for repair--in fact your body

is probably asking for more protein due to a lack of this important

nutrient), lots of vegetables, a small portion of a starch, grain or

bean for the sweetness(so I don't feel deprived) and a small portion

of high quality fat in the form of flaxseeds or flaxseed oil, virgin

olive oil, coconut oil(great for me), nut butter(small amounts

definitely or I get into a binge), organic butter or seeds. This

works wonderfully for me when combined with everything else I do and

did to get my FMS under control. When I fall out of balance with it,

I have to look to me to see where I fell " off the wagon " so to speak.

Then I make corrections, bless it for the information and lessons it

brought me, and I move on. No dwelling, no drama, no lingering and

especially " NO WHAT IFS!!! " .

Hope this is helpful.

-- In dominie , " carlene.grimshaw "

<carlene.grimshaw@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi there...it sounds like this works very well for you. It's all so

> interesting. If I recall correctly, buckwheat's a member of the rhubarb

> family. Your comment, " THERE IS ALWAYS A SOLUTION AND ALWAYS A WAY. "

> This reminds me of something I read, years ago. That 'where there is

> disease - there is also a cure' - and 'an extreme illness requires an

> extreme remedy'. But, don't quote me - brainfog!

>

> I've simplified my diet, too. To the point where others might consider

> my diet...weird. I also eat lots of vegetables, some herbs, and plenty

> of berries. Should we Fibro. people only be eating " small amounts of

> fruits? " Can fruits cause problems? Thanks for sharing. It all helps.

> Take care Carlene

>

>

>

> Personally as someone who has gone through all of this and come out

> the other side(so to speak) I have found for me that grains and beans

> need to be very limited in my diet. I do eat some grains however

> they are the non-gluten ones like buckwheat(which isn't wheat at all)

>

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This is great...I'm going to print it out for reference. I take it

you're not a Fruitarian!!! I understand your point about sweet

cravings. Yet, apples contain Malic Acid. Sorely needed by CFS/Fibro.

people. There's a good CFS/Fibro. reference to this in the book... " The

Killer Plagues To Come " p101. " Malic acid is a natural substance

extracted from apples. In the body, along with magnesium, it is one of

the components in the energy-producing Krebs cycle in which fats and

sugar are converted to pure energy. "

I think you do have a good point about sweet binges. When this happens

to me I reach for plenty of honey with yoghurt. I'll have to keep a

look-out for Ann Marie Colbin's book, " Food and Healing. " My number #

OCD is collecting second-hand books. Especially, alternative

healing/health. Also, I've been eating flaxseeds/oil for years, terrific

stuff. Without these I would be in real trouble. Now, I use Coconut oil

as well, sparingly. Apparently, it's one of the saturated fats, that's

not harmful. In moderation...of course. Glad you have your FMS under

control. Your concepts are appreciated. Carlene

I can't speak for anyone else except for me. Limiting my complex

carbs of starchy veggies, fruits, grains and beans has helped me

tremendously. I never limit the low complex carbs of veggies like

salad, greens, green beans, squash, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. These

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It took years and over a decade to figure out all of the issues that

were necessary to unravel to bring my body back into balance. ONe of

the things I needed to know is that FMS is an immune system

dysfunction. Being such, the spleen/stomach has a direct link to the

immune system(the others do also however in Chinese medicine these

two are directly related) and the taste that goes with spleen/stomach

is sweetness. So too little and too much sweet will affect the

spleen/stomach organs and the meridians and ultimately affect the

immune system and FMS. So each person needs to find out how much

sweet taste they will tolerate before it affecting the immune

system. We all need some sweetness---some more and some less than

others to function optimally. Too little and we feel deprived, too

much and it affects our immunity and we get colds, the flu,

hypoglecemia, diabetes, candida, etc. So a key for anyone with FMS

(in my humble opinion) is to find out the amount that will bring

about optimal health. For the longest time I couldn't eat any

grains, beans, fruits and even nuts. Now I can in limited amounts

and spread out over the week. My body tolerates it well as long as I

stick to small amounts and do not go over the amount and loves it

without bringing on the cravings. When the cravings come, I know I

overexerted my spleen/stomach and went to far. I then need to pull

back some and rebalance. In times of great stress, I lower my carbs

because I can't eat as much as before without the stress. I had to

get to know my body and how it functions optimally. Now years later I

eat and DIGEST well all of these foods however in limited amounts. I

could never be a vegetarian or like you said a frutarian because of

the large emphasis on complex carbohydrates. It would stress out my

spleen/pancreas/stomach so badly and then my immune system and

ultimately bring down my immune system and go straight to my muscles

and bring on FMS again. GET TO KNOW YOUR BODY. BECOME AWARE!!!!!

THis is different for each person and again what works for me--works

for me--and maybe not you. Also some people can tolerate huge

amounts of carbs while others can't. As I improved and was off the

carbs my immune system, spleen/pancreas/ stomach and ultimately

liver, gall bladder, kidneys and bladder also healed. By taking the

carbs out of my eating, I took a major stress off of my body and my

body healed without the constant stressors being put into it. It's

like taking the straws off the camel that had his back broken. I

needed to find out what those straws were, taking them off and allow

the camel to stand back up again by himself/herself(P.C. here--LOL!!!)

Once all the stress is off, the body rebalances, heals and gets

strong again. Everytime I fall out of balance I look at my behaviors

to see if I caused it and what to do about rectifiying it so as to

rebalance, heal it and move on.

Am I helping anyone here at all? Is what I'm saying making any sense

to you guys? Need some feedback here.

-- In dominie , " carlene.grimshaw "

<carlene.grimshaw@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> This is great...I'm going to print it out for reference. I take it

> you're not a Fruitarian!!! I understand your point about sweet

> cravings. Yet, apples contain Malic Acid. Sorely needed by

CFS/Fibro.

> people. There's a good CFS/Fibro. reference to this in the

book... " The

> Killer Plagues To Come " p101. " Malic acid is a natural substance

> extracted from apples. In the body, along with magnesium, it is one

of

> the components in the energy-producing Krebs cycle in which fats and

> sugar are converted to pure energy. "

>

> I think you do have a good point about sweet binges. When this

happens

> to me I reach for plenty of honey with yoghurt. I'll have to keep a

> look-out for Ann Marie Colbin's book, " Food and Healing. " My number

#

> OCD is collecting second-hand books. Especially, alternative

> healing/health. Also, I've been eating flaxseeds/oil for years,

terrific

> stuff. Without these I would be in real trouble. Now, I use Coconut

oil

> as well, sparingly. Apparently, it's one of the saturated fats,

that's

> not harmful. In moderation...of course. Glad you have your FMS under

> control. Your concepts are appreciated. Carlene

>

>

>

>

>

> I can't speak for anyone else except for me. Limiting my complex

> carbs of starchy veggies, fruits, grains and beans has helped me

> tremendously. I never limit the low complex carbs of veggies like

> salad, greens, green beans, squash, broccoli, cauliflower, etc.

These

>

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-One last thing: Yes malic acid is in apples and yes FMS people

sometimes need it in abundant amounts to help the muscles. However

the large amount of carbs that come with the apples besides the malic

acid actually does more damage to me than the malic acid did in

helping me. Too many carbs was depleting my spleen/stomach and

immune system and when I did lots of apples I actually got sicker.

It was only when I switched to the diet I mentioned earlier that I

began to see the relationship between the sweet taste and my immune

system and FMS and found that the less carbs I did, the better I felt

and the healthier I became. Later on I added small amounts of fruit

back into my diet as my digestive system and flora rebalanced and I

could handle these items without gas, indigestion, or cramping, etc.

-- In dominie , " carlene.grimshaw "

<carlene.grimshaw@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> This is great...I'm going to print it out for reference. I take it

> you're not a Fruitarian!!! I understand your point about sweet

> cravings. Yet, apples contain Malic Acid. Sorely needed by

CFS/Fibro.

> people. There's a good CFS/Fibro. reference to this in the

book... " The

> Killer Plagues To Come " p101. " Malic acid is a natural substance

> extracted from apples. In the body, along with magnesium, it is one

of

> the components in the energy-producing Krebs cycle in which fats and

> sugar are converted to pure energy. "

>

> I think you do have a good point about sweet binges. When this

happens

> to me I reach for plenty of honey with yoghurt. I'll have to keep a

> look-out for Ann Marie Colbin's book, " Food and Healing. " My number

#

> OCD is collecting second-hand books. Especially, alternative

> healing/health. Also, I've been eating flaxseeds/oil for years,

terrific

> stuff. Without these I would be in real trouble. Now, I use Coconut

oil

> as well, sparingly. Apparently, it's one of the saturated fats,

that's

> not harmful. In moderation...of course. Glad you have your FMS under

> control. Your concepts are appreciated. Carlene

>

>

>

>

>

> I can't speak for anyone else except for me. Limiting my complex

> carbs of starchy veggies, fruits, grains and beans has helped me

> tremendously. I never limit the low complex carbs of veggies like

> salad, greens, green beans, squash, broccoli, cauliflower, etc.

These

>

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You're right, it's nasty. I had to do the skin patch tests but in

the end it was a blessing since I could prove an allergy and the

insurance paid a chunk of my amalgam removal. It blistered and was

horribly itchy. Mercury and paladium and nickel all came up. The

others didn't cause a problem.

Sharon Hoehner

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>

> A skin prick test for environmental allergies may be a reasonable 1st

> test if not already done, I'm not sure about the U.S. but this should

> be available at many G.P. practices or a rhinitis clinic.

>

> Kenny

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> A skin prick test for environmental allergies may be a reasonable

1st

> test if not already done, I'm not sure about the U.S. but this

should

> be available at many G.P. practices or a rhinitis clinic.

>

> Kenny

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> Does this sound accurate to you?

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> Food allergies can't trigger hyperactivity. Children with attention deficit

hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) may become more active after consuming sweets and

junk foods, but this is caused by a 'sugar surge' rather than an allergy.

>

Food intolerances can cause ADHD particularly those high in salicylates and

phenols. The Feingold diet can be helpful for this.

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