Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop drinking Kombucha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 what exactly does a " fatty liver " mean? On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:43 AM, frowe75 <florowe@...> wrote: > > > I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything > to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop > drinking Kombucha. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 What is the rest of your diet like ? Hows your cholesteral ? From: frowe75 <florowe@...> Subject: Kombucha and fatty liver kombucha tea Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:43 PM Â I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop drinking Kombucha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 From this blog: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/11/choline-and-fatty-liver.html Choline and Fatty Liver I've been writing about non-alcoholic fatty liver disorder (NAFLD) since the early days of this blog, because it's an alarmingly common disorder (roughly a quarter of Americans affected) that is typically undiagnosed. It often progresses into its more serious cousin non-alcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH), an inflammatory condition that causes liver damage and can progress to cancer. In a number of previous posts, I pinpointed *excess sugar and seed oil consumption as culprits* in NAFLD and NASH (1<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/06/letter-to-editor.html>, 2<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/03/fatty-liver-its-not-just-for-gro\ wn-ups.html>, 3<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/04/excess-omega-6-fat-damages-infan\ ts.html>, 4<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/nonalcoholic-fatty-liver-disease\ ..html>, 5<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-fatten-your-liver.html> ). Masterjohn recently published two very informative posts on NAFLD/NASH that add a major additional factor to the equation: choline (6<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and-eg\ g-yolks.html>, 7<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/does-choline-deficiency-contrib\ ute-to.html>). Choline is an essential nutrient that's required for the transport of fat out of the liver (8 <http://www.jlr.org/content/9/4/437.abstract>). *NAFLD can be caused, and cured, simply by removing or adding dietary choline, and it appears to be dominant over other dietary factors including fat, sugar and alcohol.* Apparently, certain researchers have been aware of this for some time, but it hasn't entered into the mainstream consciousness. Could that be because the richest dietary sources are liver and eggs*? Choline is also found in smaller amounts in a variety of whole animal and plant foods. Most people don't get the officially recommended amount. From a recent review article (9 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19906248>): Mean choline intakes for older children, men, women, and pregnant women are far below the adequate intake level established by the [institute of Medicine]. Given the importance of choline in a wide range of critical functions in the human body, coupled with less-than-optimal intakes among the population, dietary guidance should be developed to encourage the intake of choline-rich foods. I've dubbed beef liver the Most Nutritious Food in the World, Nature's Multivitamin, and I'll probably invent other titles for it in the future. Add yours to the comments. Learn to love liver! I think it's an excellent food to eat on a weekly basis. Head over to Chris's blog and read about the classic studies he unearthed. And add The Daily Lipid to your RSS reader, because there's more interesting material to come! The Sweet Truth about Liver and Egg Yolks<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and\ -egg-yolks.html> Does Choline Deficiency Contribute to Fatty Liver in Humans?<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/does-choline-deficiency-c\ ontribute-to.html> * For the brave: brain is actually the richest source of choline. > > > I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything > to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop > drinking Kombucha. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 From this blog: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/11/choline-and-fatty-liver.html Choline and Fatty Liver I've been writing about non-alcoholic fatty liver disorder (NAFLD) since the early days of this blog, because it's an alarmingly common disorder (roughly a quarter of Americans affected) that is typically undiagnosed. It often progresses into its more serious cousin non-alcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH), an inflammatory condition that causes liver damage and can progress to cancer. In a number of previous posts, I pinpointed *excess sugar and seed oil consumption as culprits* in NAFLD and NASH (1<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/06/letter-to-editor.html>, 2<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/03/fatty-liver-its-not-just-for-gro\ wn-ups.html>, 3<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/04/excess-omega-6-fat-damages-infan\ ts.html>, 4<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/nonalcoholic-fatty-liver-disease\ ..html>, 5<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-fatten-your-liver.html> ). Masterjohn recently published two very informative posts on NAFLD/NASH that add a major additional factor to the equation: choline (6<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and-eg\ g-yolks.html>, 7<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/does-choline-deficiency-contrib\ ute-to.html>). Choline is an essential nutrient that's required for the transport of fat out of the liver (8 <http://www.jlr.org/content/9/4/437.abstract>). *NAFLD can be caused, and cured, simply by removing or adding dietary choline, and it appears to be dominant over other dietary factors including fat, sugar and alcohol.* Apparently, certain researchers have been aware of this for some time, but it hasn't entered into the mainstream consciousness. Could that be because the richest dietary sources are liver and eggs*? Choline is also found in smaller amounts in a variety of whole animal and plant foods. Most people don't get the officially recommended amount. From a recent review article (9 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19906248>): Mean choline intakes for older children, men, women, and pregnant women are far below the adequate intake level established by the [institute of Medicine]. Given the importance of choline in a wide range of critical functions in the human body, coupled with less-than-optimal intakes among the population, dietary guidance should be developed to encourage the intake of choline-rich foods. I've dubbed beef liver the Most Nutritious Food in the World, Nature's Multivitamin, and I'll probably invent other titles for it in the future. Add yours to the comments. Learn to love liver! I think it's an excellent food to eat on a weekly basis. Head over to Chris's blog and read about the classic studies he unearthed. And add The Daily Lipid to your RSS reader, because there's more interesting material to come! The Sweet Truth about Liver and Egg Yolks<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and\ -egg-yolks.html> Does Choline Deficiency Contribute to Fatty Liver in Humans?<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/does-choline-deficiency-c\ ontribute-to.html> * For the brave: brain is actually the richest source of choline. > > > I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything > to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop > drinking Kombucha. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I think if you stop drinking KT the growth of fatty liver will be double!What you should do is stop eating all fatty foods GBU,Indra From: frowe75 <florowe@...> Subject: Kombucha and fatty liver kombucha tea Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:43 PM Â I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop drinking Kombucha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I think if you stop drinking KT the growth of fatty liver will be double!What you should do is stop eating all fatty foods GBU,Indra From: frowe75 <florowe@...> Subject: Kombucha and fatty liver kombucha tea Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:43 PM Â I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop drinking Kombucha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Fatty liver mean - There are many fatty all around the liver.It will make the Liver will not work properly, that is what I know. Indra > > > I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything > to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop > drinking Kombucha. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Fatty liver mean - There are many fatty all around the liver.It will make the Liver will not work properly, that is what I know. Indra > > > I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything > to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop > drinking Kombucha. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 My one concern is that kombucha is a detoxing agent in the body - and when we detox, it's the liver and kidneys that need to clear the stuff out of the body. If your liver is already compromised, giving it more work to do could be a bad plan. On the other hand, *staying* detoxed could potentially mean *less* work for the liver, I can see benefits either way. I'd ask your doctor about it - but many doctors don't know much about kombucha, so who knows. I'd also ask about supplementing with liver supportive herbs like dandelion and yellow dock, both of those are good for livers. If your doctor doesn't know about kombucha and herbs, you could try to find a Naturopathic doctor for a second opinion... *shrug* Pippa and if anybody is interested, the Wikipedia page on fatty liver (officially termed Hepatic lipidosis): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_lipidosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I seriously doubt that Kombucha has anything to do with fatty liver technically known as steatohepatiitis. The real reason for this symptom is unknown but it occurs in 2 to 5 percent of Americans. If you are overweight you are more susceptible to this. Since it is a hepatatic symptom I would recommend taking the formula that Dr.Berkson in New Mexico who prescribed 600 mg. Of oral apha-lipoic acid in 2 divided doses (300 mg each), 900 mg of silymarin in 3 divided doses (300 mg each) and 400 mg of selenium a day for Hepatitis C. You should also take vitamin B supplements as ALA depletes some of the B vitamins. I have a friend who has had good results for fatty liver after taking triphala, an Indian fruit concoction that you can google and find out more about for this symptom. Hope some of this helps. Jack > > I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop drinking Kombucha. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I seriously doubt that Kombucha has anything to do with fatty liver technically known as steatohepatiitis. The real reason for this symptom is unknown but it occurs in 2 to 5 percent of Americans. If you are overweight you are more susceptible to this. Since it is a hepatatic symptom I would recommend taking the formula that Dr.Berkson in New Mexico who prescribed 600 mg. Of oral apha-lipoic acid in 2 divided doses (300 mg each), 900 mg of silymarin in 3 divided doses (300 mg each) and 400 mg of selenium a day for Hepatitis C. You should also take vitamin B supplements as ALA depletes some of the B vitamins. I have a friend who has had good results for fatty liver after taking triphala, an Indian fruit concoction that you can google and find out more about for this symptom. Hope some of this helps. Jack > > I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop drinking Kombucha. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Mainstream doctors aren't going to know about kombucha and herbs. In some cases, they can loose their jobs if they recommend anything that is not mainstream, seriously loose their jobs. Clinics and hospitals don't like anything alternative. I use the mainstream doctors for testing, and go to the alternative health practicioners for healthier treatments. I saw a homeopath for a long time. A naturopath would be good too. Look for someone in your area, if you can get a friend to recommend someone that's great, but if not, don't let that stop you, you can find good people out there. > > My one concern is that kombucha is a detoxing agent in the body - and when we detox, it's the liver and kidneys that need to clear the stuff out of the body. If your liver is already compromised, giving it more work to do could be a bad plan. On the other hand, *staying* detoxed could potentially mean *less* work for the liver, I can see benefits either way. > > I'd ask your doctor about it - but many doctors don't know much about kombucha, so who knows. I'd also ask about supplementing with liver supportive herbs like dandelion and yellow dock, both of those are good for livers. If your doctor doesn't know about kombucha and herbs, you could try to find a Naturopathic doctor for a second opinion... *shrug* > > Pippa > and if anybody is interested, the Wikipedia page on fatty liver (officially termed Hepatic lipidosis): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_lipidosis > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Mainstream doctors aren't going to know about kombucha and herbs. In some cases, they can loose their jobs if they recommend anything that is not mainstream, seriously loose their jobs. Clinics and hospitals don't like anything alternative. I use the mainstream doctors for testing, and go to the alternative health practicioners for healthier treatments. I saw a homeopath for a long time. A naturopath would be good too. Look for someone in your area, if you can get a friend to recommend someone that's great, but if not, don't let that stop you, you can find good people out there. > > My one concern is that kombucha is a detoxing agent in the body - and when we detox, it's the liver and kidneys that need to clear the stuff out of the body. If your liver is already compromised, giving it more work to do could be a bad plan. On the other hand, *staying* detoxed could potentially mean *less* work for the liver, I can see benefits either way. > > I'd ask your doctor about it - but many doctors don't know much about kombucha, so who knows. I'd also ask about supplementing with liver supportive herbs like dandelion and yellow dock, both of those are good for livers. If your doctor doesn't know about kombucha and herbs, you could try to find a Naturopathic doctor for a second opinion... *shrug* > > Pippa > and if anybody is interested, the Wikipedia page on fatty liver (officially termed Hepatic lipidosis): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_lipidosis > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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