Kombucha and fatty liver

[Guest guest]

I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to

do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

drinking Kombucha.

[Guest guest]

what exactly does a " fatty liver " mean?

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:43 AM, frowe75 <florowe@...> wrote:

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> I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything

> to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

> drinking Kombucha.

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[Guest guest]

What is the rest of your diet like ? Hows your cholesteral ?

From: frowe75 <florowe@...>

Subject: Kombucha and fatty liver

kombucha tea

Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to

do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

drinking Kombucha.

[Guest guest]

From this blog:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/11/choline-and-fatty-liver.html

Choline and Fatty Liver

I've been writing about non-alcoholic fatty liver disorder (NAFLD) since

the early days of this blog, because it's an alarmingly common disorder

(roughly a quarter of Americans affected) that is typically undiagnosed. It

often progresses into its more serious cousin non-alcoholic steatohepatitis

(NASH), an inflammatory condition that causes liver damage and can progress

to cancer. In a number of previous posts, I pinpointed *excess sugar and

seed oil consumption as culprits* in NAFLD and NASH

(1<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/06/letter-to-editor.html>,

2<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/03/fatty-liver-its-not-just-for-gro\

wn-ups.html>,

3<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/04/excess-omega-6-fat-damages-infan\

ts.html>,

4<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/nonalcoholic-fatty-liver-disease\

..html>,

5<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-fatten-your-liver.html>

).

Masterjohn recently published two very informative posts on NAFLD/NASH

that add a major additional factor to the equation: choline

(6<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and-eg\

g-yolks.html>,

7<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/does-choline-deficiency-contrib\

ute-to.html>).

Choline is an essential nutrient that's required for the transport of fat

out of the liver (8 <http://www.jlr.org/content/9/4/437.abstract>). *NAFLD

can be caused, and cured, simply by removing or adding dietary choline, and

it appears to be dominant over other dietary factors including fat, sugar

and alcohol.* Apparently, certain researchers have been aware of this for

some time, but it hasn't entered into the mainstream consciousness.

Could that be because the richest dietary sources are liver and eggs*?

Choline is also found in smaller amounts in a variety of whole animal and

plant foods. Most people don't get the officially recommended amount. From a

recent review article (9 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19906248>):

Mean choline intakes for older children, men, women, and pregnant women are

far below the adequate intake level established by the [institute of

Medicine]. Given the importance of choline in a wide range of critical

functions in the human body, coupled with less-than-optimal intakes among

the population, dietary guidance should be developed to encourage the intake

of choline-rich foods.

I've dubbed beef liver the Most Nutritious Food in the World, Nature's

Multivitamin, and I'll probably invent other titles for it in the future.

Add yours to the comments. Learn to love liver! I think it's an excellent

food to eat on a weekly basis.

Head over to Chris's blog and read about the classic studies he unearthed.

And add The Daily Lipid to your RSS reader, because there's more interesting

material to come!

The Sweet Truth about Liver and Egg

Yolks<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and\

-egg-yolks.html>

Does Choline Deficiency Contribute to Fatty Liver in

Humans?<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/does-choline-deficiency-c\

ontribute-to.html>

* For the brave: brain is actually the richest source of choline.

>

>

> I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything

> to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

> drinking Kombucha.

>

>

[Guest guest]

From this blog:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/11/choline-and-fatty-liver.html

Choline and Fatty Liver

I've been writing about non-alcoholic fatty liver disorder (NAFLD) since

the early days of this blog, because it's an alarmingly common disorder

(roughly a quarter of Americans affected) that is typically undiagnosed. It

often progresses into its more serious cousin non-alcoholic steatohepatitis

(NASH), an inflammatory condition that causes liver damage and can progress

to cancer. In a number of previous posts, I pinpointed *excess sugar and

seed oil consumption as culprits* in NAFLD and NASH

(1<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/06/letter-to-editor.html>,

2<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/03/fatty-liver-its-not-just-for-gro\

wn-ups.html>,

3<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/04/excess-omega-6-fat-damages-infan\

ts.html>,

4<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/nonalcoholic-fatty-liver-disease\

..html>,

5<http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-fatten-your-liver.html>

).

Masterjohn recently published two very informative posts on NAFLD/NASH

that add a major additional factor to the equation: choline

(6<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and-eg\

g-yolks.html>,

7<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/does-choline-deficiency-contrib\

ute-to.html>).

Choline is an essential nutrient that's required for the transport of fat

out of the liver (8 <http://www.jlr.org/content/9/4/437.abstract>). *NAFLD

can be caused, and cured, simply by removing or adding dietary choline, and

it appears to be dominant over other dietary factors including fat, sugar

and alcohol.* Apparently, certain researchers have been aware of this for

some time, but it hasn't entered into the mainstream consciousness.

Could that be because the richest dietary sources are liver and eggs*?

Choline is also found in smaller amounts in a variety of whole animal and

plant foods. Most people don't get the officially recommended amount. From a

recent review article (9 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19906248>):

Mean choline intakes for older children, men, women, and pregnant women are

far below the adequate intake level established by the [institute of

Medicine]. Given the importance of choline in a wide range of critical

functions in the human body, coupled with less-than-optimal intakes among

the population, dietary guidance should be developed to encourage the intake

of choline-rich foods.

I've dubbed beef liver the Most Nutritious Food in the World, Nature's

Multivitamin, and I'll probably invent other titles for it in the future.

Add yours to the comments. Learn to love liver! I think it's an excellent

food to eat on a weekly basis.

Head over to Chris's blog and read about the classic studies he unearthed.

And add The Daily Lipid to your RSS reader, because there's more interesting

material to come!

The Sweet Truth about Liver and Egg

Yolks<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and\

-egg-yolks.html>

Does Choline Deficiency Contribute to Fatty Liver in

Humans?<http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/does-choline-deficiency-c\

ontribute-to.html>

* For the brave: brain is actually the richest source of choline.

>

>

> I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything

> to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

> drinking Kombucha.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think if you stop drinking KT the growth of fatty liver will be double!What

you should do is stop eating all fatty foods

GBU,Indra

From: frowe75 <florowe@...>

Subject: Kombucha and fatty liver

kombucha tea

Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has

anything to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should

stop drinking Kombucha.

[Guest guest]

I think if you stop drinking KT the growth of fatty liver will be double!What

you should do is stop eating all fatty foods

GBU,Indra

From: frowe75 <florowe@...>

Subject: Kombucha and fatty liver

kombucha tea

Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has

anything to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should

stop drinking Kombucha.

[Guest guest]

Fatty liver mean - There are many fatty all around the liver.It will make the

Liver will not work properly, that is what I know.

Indra

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> I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything

> to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

> drinking Kombucha.

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Fatty liver mean - There are many fatty all around the liver.It will make the

Liver will not work properly, that is what I know.

Indra

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> I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything

> to do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

> drinking Kombucha.

>

> 

>

[Guest guest]

My one concern is that kombucha is a detoxing agent in the body - and when we

detox, it's the liver and kidneys that need to clear the stuff out of the body. 

If your liver is already compromised, giving it more work to do could be a bad

plan.  On the other hand, *staying* detoxed could potentially mean *less* work

for the liver, I can see benefits either way.

I'd ask your doctor about it - but many doctors don't know much about kombucha,

so who knows.  I'd also ask about supplementing with liver supportive herbs like

dandelion and yellow dock, both of those are good for livers.  If your doctor

doesn't know about kombucha and herbs, you could try to find a Naturopathic

doctor for a second opinion... *shrug*

Pippa

and if anybody is interested, the Wikipedia page on fatty liver (officially

termed Hepatic lipidosis): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_lipidosis

[Guest guest]

I seriously doubt that Kombucha has anything to do with fatty liver

technically known as steatohepatiitis. The real reason for this

symptom is unknown but it occurs in 2 to 5 percent of Americans.

If you are overweight you are more susceptible to this. Since it

is a hepatatic symptom I would recommend taking the formula that

Dr.Berkson in New Mexico who prescribed 600 mg. Of oral

apha-lipoic acid in 2 divided doses (300 mg each), 900 mg of

silymarin in 3 divided doses (300 mg each) and 400 mg of selenium

a day for Hepatitis C. You should also take vitamin B supplements

as ALA depletes some of the B vitamins. I have a friend who has

had good results for fatty liver after taking triphala, an Indian

fruit concoction that you can google and find out more about for

this symptom. Hope some of this helps.

Jack

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> I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to

do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

drinking Kombucha.

>

[Guest guest]

I seriously doubt that Kombucha has anything to do with fatty liver

technically known as steatohepatiitis. The real reason for this

symptom is unknown but it occurs in 2 to 5 percent of Americans.

If you are overweight you are more susceptible to this. Since it

is a hepatatic symptom I would recommend taking the formula that

Dr.Berkson in New Mexico who prescribed 600 mg. Of oral

apha-lipoic acid in 2 divided doses (300 mg each), 900 mg of

silymarin in 3 divided doses (300 mg each) and 400 mg of selenium

a day for Hepatitis C. You should also take vitamin B supplements

as ALA depletes some of the B vitamins. I have a friend who has

had good results for fatty liver after taking triphala, an Indian

fruit concoction that you can google and find out more about for

this symptom. Hope some of this helps.

Jack

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> I have just been told I have fatty liver. I am wondering if it has anything to

do with drinking Kombucha for many years. I am wondering if I should stop

drinking Kombucha.

>

[Guest guest]

Mainstream doctors aren't going to know about kombucha and herbs. In some cases,

they can loose their jobs if they recommend anything that is not mainstream,

seriously loose their jobs. Clinics and hospitals don't like anything

alternative.

I use the mainstream doctors for testing, and go to the alternative health

practicioners for healthier treatments. I saw a homeopath for a long time. A

naturopath would be good too. Look for someone in your area, if you can get a

friend to recommend someone that's great, but if not, don't let that stop you,

you can find good people out there.

>

> My one concern is that kombucha is a detoxing agent in the body - and when we

detox, it's the liver and kidneys that need to clear the stuff out of the body. 

If your liver is already compromised, giving it more work to do could be a bad

plan.  On the other hand, *staying* detoxed could potentially mean *less* work

for the liver, I can see benefits either way.

>

> I'd ask your doctor about it - but many doctors don't know much about

kombucha, so who knows.  I'd also ask about supplementing with liver supportive

herbs like dandelion and yellow dock, both of those are good for livers.  If

your doctor doesn't know about kombucha and herbs, you could try to find a

Naturopathic doctor for a second opinion... *shrug*

>

> Pippa

> and if anybody is interested, the Wikipedia page on fatty liver (officially

termed Hepatic lipidosis): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_lipidosis

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[Guest guest]

Mainstream doctors aren't going to know about kombucha and herbs. In some cases,

they can loose their jobs if they recommend anything that is not mainstream,

seriously loose their jobs. Clinics and hospitals don't like anything

alternative.

I use the mainstream doctors for testing, and go to the alternative health

practicioners for healthier treatments. I saw a homeopath for a long time. A

naturopath would be good too. Look for someone in your area, if you can get a

friend to recommend someone that's great, but if not, don't let that stop you,

you can find good people out there.

>

> My one concern is that kombucha is a detoxing agent in the body - and when we

detox, it's the liver and kidneys that need to clear the stuff out of the body. 

If your liver is already compromised, giving it more work to do could be a bad

plan.  On the other hand, *staying* detoxed could potentially mean *less* work

for the liver, I can see benefits either way.

>

> I'd ask your doctor about it - but many doctors don't know much about

kombucha, so who knows.  I'd also ask about supplementing with liver supportive

herbs like dandelion and yellow dock, both of those are good for livers.  If

your doctor doesn't know about kombucha and herbs, you could try to find a

Naturopathic doctor for a second opinion... *shrug*

>

> Pippa

> and if anybody is interested, the Wikipedia page on fatty liver (officially

termed Hepatic lipidosis): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_lipidosis

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