Re: Simplified Spelling Society

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I've often thought that foreign place names and such should have been spelled phonetically so that they would be easier to accurately pronounce. These days, the spelling may be correct, but with alien words, you can't be sure of the pronunciation because you have nothing to compare it to.

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[Guest guest]

this is why in the USA, we should study more languages. How

many times Americans bellow about having to take foreign languages?

PS maybe that is why CHO shot the French teacher and students... he

missed a French word on Scrabble...

>

> I've often thought that foreign place names and such should have

been

> spelled phonetically so that they would be easier to accurately

pronounce. These

> days, the spelling may be correct, but with alien words, you can't be

sure of

> the pronunciation because you have nothing to compare it to.

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Mmmmmmmmm I have to question how simplified is thier idea of

simplification :-)

For instance I don't really understand text messages - or should that

be 'txt' messages for example :-)

Some friend once texted me asking for my 'add' - I had no idea what

my 'add' was, and was wondering why she was talking about a

mathematic term. I think the message went something like this 'Wot UR

Add'.I do know now that she was asking for my address, but to me text

style writing can be quite confusing and it took me quite some time

to realise what things like 'lol', 'brb' and 'btw' etc stood for.

>

>

> Here is something that ought to make Scrabble games so much easier

>

> Source:

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> tyCenterHomepage/NewsPrint> Simplified Spelling Society:

> " Let's get phonetic "

> By MajendieTue Apr 17, 10:19 AM ET

>

> Enough is enuf.

>

> The Simplified Spelling Society (SSS) is celebrating its 99th

birthday

> by launching a new campaign to make it easier to read and write

English.

>

> It may be the world's most universal language but linguistic

experts say

> it has failed to adapt for the last 500 years and now half the

globe's

> English speakers have difficulty spelling.

>

> With texts and e-mails revolutionising the way we communicate, SSS

> secretary Gledhill says the time is ripe for phonetic reform

and

> spelling simplification.

>

> " Texts cut away the complications and take away the stigma of not

being

> able to use an obsolete spelling, " Gledhill told Reuters in an

> interview.

>

> The SSS message is simple: " You can change the spelling without

spoiling

> the language. People are scared of change and don't realise it is

normal

> in language. "

>

> European children learn to read and write far quicker than the

British,

> he said. Italians take just two years while the British can

struggle for

> up to 12 years.

>

> He said 40 million American adults are functionally illiterate --

for

> everyday purposes, they are not able to read and write.

>

> Gledhill, who has a PhD in the history of Dutch consonantal spelling

> from 1100-1970, said the Netherlands updated spelling to keep pace

with

> pronunciation.

>

> " English is about the only language, apart from French, on the world

> stage that hasn't updated its spelling for 500 years. That is why

it is

> in rather a mess, " he said.

>

> PHONETICS KEY

>

> Gledhill sees phonetics as the key to improving literacy and

spelling.

>

> He complained that almost 4,000 English spellings make no sense. If

> head, said and friend were simplified down to 'hed' and 'sed' and

> 'frend' then kids would learn quicker.

>

> But teachers begged to differ.

>

> " Language has to be fit for purpose. The discipline of spelling is

> important. Children should learn to judge when formal and informal

> language is required, " said Dunford of the Association of

School

> and College Leaders.

>

> " Text message spelling may be appropriate for text messages. It

> certainly isn't appropriate for filling out an application form.

> Children should learn how to punctuate and spell properly. "

>

> The Simplified Spelling Society boasted 35,000 members in its 20th

> Century heyday. U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt was one of its

most

> prominent supporters.

>

> In Britain, where illiteracy is estimated to cost the economy 10

billion

> pounds a year, parliamentarians sought to tackle the problem by

> legislation. But enthusiasm waned.

> " We are not sure why there was such a huge interest after the First

> World War. Maybe people thought it was a brand new world after the

war

> to end all wars, " Gledhill said.

> Membership worldwide has now shrunk to 500 for the London-based

society

> but Gledhill insists change is more urgent than ever.

> " Spanish is easier to read and write and could challenge the

dominance

> of English. The English language itself is in very good health. We

just

> want it to be written down in a way that is readable and writeable. "

>

> Copyright © 2007 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.

>

[Guest guest]

Mmmmmmmmm I have to question how simplified is thier idea of

simplification :-)

For instance I don't really understand text messages - or should that

be 'txt' messages for example :-)

Some friend once texted me asking for my 'add' - I had no idea what

my 'add' was, and was wondering why she was talking about a

mathematic term. I think the message went something like this 'Wot UR

Add'.I do know now that she was asking for my address, but to me text

style writing can be quite confusing and it took me quite some time

to realise what things like 'lol', 'brb' and 'btw' etc stood for.

>

>

> Here is something that ought to make Scrabble games so much easier

>

> Source:

>

http://news./s/nm/20070417/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_english &

pr\

> inter=1;_ylt=AoROXer2Qc1o71MY0oQX4EKek3QF

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> tyCenterHomepage/NewsPrint> Simplified Spelling Society:

> " Let's get phonetic "

> By MajendieTue Apr 17, 10:19 AM ET

>

> Enough is enuf.

>

> The Simplified Spelling Society (SSS) is celebrating its 99th

birthday

> by launching a new campaign to make it easier to read and write

English.

>

> It may be the world's most universal language but linguistic

experts say

> it has failed to adapt for the last 500 years and now half the

globe's

> English speakers have difficulty spelling.

>

> With texts and e-mails revolutionising the way we communicate, SSS

> secretary Gledhill says the time is ripe for phonetic reform

and

> spelling simplification.

>

> " Texts cut away the complications and take away the stigma of not

being

> able to use an obsolete spelling, " Gledhill told Reuters in an

> interview.

>

> The SSS message is simple: " You can change the spelling without

spoiling

> the language. People are scared of change and don't realise it is

normal

> in language. "

>

> European children learn to read and write far quicker than the

British,

> he said. Italians take just two years while the British can

struggle for

> up to 12 years.

>

> He said 40 million American adults are functionally illiterate --

for

> everyday purposes, they are not able to read and write.

>

> Gledhill, who has a PhD in the history of Dutch consonantal spelling

> from 1100-1970, said the Netherlands updated spelling to keep pace

with

> pronunciation.

>

> " English is about the only language, apart from French, on the world

> stage that hasn't updated its spelling for 500 years. That is why

it is

> in rather a mess, " he said.

>

> PHONETICS KEY

>

> Gledhill sees phonetics as the key to improving literacy and

spelling.

>

> He complained that almost 4,000 English spellings make no sense. If

> head, said and friend were simplified down to 'hed' and 'sed' and

> 'frend' then kids would learn quicker.

>

> But teachers begged to differ.

>

> " Language has to be fit for purpose. The discipline of spelling is

> important. Children should learn to judge when formal and informal

> language is required, " said Dunford of the Association of

School

> and College Leaders.

>

> " Text message spelling may be appropriate for text messages. It

> certainly isn't appropriate for filling out an application form.

> Children should learn how to punctuate and spell properly. "

>

> The Simplified Spelling Society boasted 35,000 members in its 20th

> Century heyday. U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt was one of its

most

> prominent supporters.

>

> In Britain, where illiteracy is estimated to cost the economy 10

billion

> pounds a year, parliamentarians sought to tackle the problem by

> legislation. But enthusiasm waned.

> " We are not sure why there was such a huge interest after the First

> World War. Maybe people thought it was a brand new world after the

war

> to end all wars, " Gledhill said.

> Membership worldwide has now shrunk to 500 for the London-based

society

> but Gledhill insists change is more urgent than ever.

> " Spanish is easier to read and write and could challenge the

dominance

> of English. The English language itself is in very good health. We

just

> want it to be written down in a way that is readable and writeable. "

>

> Copyright © 2007 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.

>

[Guest guest]

Mmmmmmm sometimes I can know how to spell a word and yet not 100%

certain on the pronouncing of it as I haven't heard it spoken (I read

a fair bit) and other times I know how a word is pronounced, because

I have heard it spoken, but not how to spell it, because I haven't

seen it written down.

>

> I've often thought that foreign place names and such should have

been

> spelled phonetically so that they would be easier to accurately

pronounce. These

> days, the spelling may be correct, but with alien words, you can't

be sure of

> the pronunciation because you have nothing to compare it to.

>

>

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

[Guest guest]

Mmmmmmm sometimes I can know how to spell a word and yet not 100%

certain on the pronouncing of it as I haven't heard it spoken (I read

a fair bit) and other times I know how a word is pronounced, because

I have heard it spoken, but not how to spell it, because I haven't

seen it written down.

>

> I've often thought that foreign place names and such should have

been

> spelled phonetically so that they would be easier to accurately

pronounce. These

> days, the spelling may be correct, but with alien words, you can't

be sure of

> the pronunciation because you have nothing to compare it to.

>

>

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 6:14:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

Mmmmmmmmm I have to question how simplified is thier idea of simplification :-)

I don't get most of the abbreviations. Most of them are only used while texting on cellphones, which the companies promote because it costs more money to do that than to talk. Also all the downloads and everything else that takes up expensive air time.

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In a message dated 4/19/2007 6:17:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

Mmmmmmm sometimes I can know how to spell a word and yet not 100% certain on the pronouncing of it as I haven't heard it spoken (I read a fair bit) and other times I know how a word is pronounced, because I have heard it spoken, but not how to spell it, because I haven't seen it written down.

I'm the same way. Mostly this affects me with place and proper names for people. The spelling looks one way, but the actually pronunciation is quite different. This really hurt with foreign words and names because they often have sounds that are alien to English, just as English has sounds alien to other languages.

If I had professors with odd names, like the one from Nigeria or the one from Bosnia, I would work with them to get the pronunciation right. It didn't take too long and they seemed to appreciate the effort. Of course, they either went by their first names or a nickname, since most people either didn't bother or couldn't get it right. For me it was just a challenge more than anything else.

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In a message dated 4/19/2007 5:13:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ravenmagic2003@... writes:

Like I said, I prefer language to be written properly.RavenCo-Administrator

So do I. A few years ago there was a fad in the public schools called "creative spelling." In that, they taught the kids the first letter of a word, then left them to figure out the rest: the discovery experience being so valuable. Of course, this meant there was no enforced spelling either. The result was that kids would write stories that teacher, and parents, would have to ask them to read because they couldn't make heads or tails of the writing. I saw examples of this writing back then. Not only was it really sloppy, but you didn't have any idea what was going on.

If people can't communicate, they can't cooperate. If they can't cooperate, then the "other" starts to become a rival and a danger. It the same way people don't trust those who don't speak their language. All that stuff is just going to lead to a Tower of Babel society.

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In a message dated 4/19/2007 5:13:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes:

But we are living in a society where culture doesn't mean as much to people as it once did. I think people these days see "culture" as "recreation" and that is not what culture is. When you have so many people seeing culture in terms of recreational activities, and, maybe, ethnicity and personal identity, I don't think they are going to care much about what gets lost through a simplification of language.TomAdministrator

Culture is also being devolved from American Culture into lots of little niche cultures. People are beginning to identify more with the niche cultures than American Culture, which will lead to instability in the future.

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[Guest guest]

If nothing else. a more rational way of spelling English could make it

possible to write down, in English, the pronunciation of an unusual

name or other unfamiliar word accurately enough so that a person could

read it certainly and correctly simply from seeing it in writing

(without having to ask anyone).

Kate Gladstone

[Guest guest]

I have some thoughts on this that I'm doubt I can clearly convery... One of the great strengths of the english language is the diversity, bordering on redundancy. Words flowed in from mostly germanic languages, so technically english is usually color-coded on linguistic maps as germanic, but it borrowed many-many words from other languages, particularly the romantic languages and within those french. Through french there is a great deal of latin, but also through other ways, -and lots of greek roots to words and on and on. The result is that, so I've heard in lectures by professors who study these sorts of things, english allows for a great deal of flexibility and ability to convey subtle ideas (for those who have really learned the language!). Prior to World War II, and especially prior to WWI, public education in the US and Britain regularly included

classes in greek and latin... If you've ever taken a course in a foreign language, it is one of the ways of learning to appreciate that even english is very limited in it's expression of ideas. In the early 1990s I founded a reading and discussion book based on the Great Books cirriculum. It was very successfull for five years is when I left. At first we had people bring in their own choices of translations of Gogol's The Overcoat and so forth, but the debating over the meaning of words translated differently sometimes ended up eating up most of time of the meetings. I think people who have had to do some translating in classes or perhaps who have taken a class in poetry tend to develop an appreciation for the depth of the meaning the choice of an individual word can have. When I look at a word sometimes I see a whole history of meaning-- Well, for

example if you have some time, try looking up the word statistic in the Oxford English Dictionary! There's a long story! Every part of the spelling of that word relates deeply to the meaning and to the origins and development of the field of statistics. Perhaps simplification of spelling would make learning less of an onerous task for the large majority of the population, but I personally think it would mean a loss of depth of .... something, call it depth of culture perhaps, call it ability to communicate at the frontiers of abstract throught... Heph VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 4/19/2007 6:14:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, julie.stevenson16ntlworld writes: Mmmmmmmmm I have to question how simplified is thier idea of simplification :-) I don't get most of the abbreviations. Most of them are only used while texting on cellphones, which the companies promote because it costs more money to do that than to talk. Also all the downloads and everything else that takes up expensive air time.

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[Guest guest]

wrote: " Mmmmmmmmm I have to question how simplified is their

idea of simplification :-)

wrote: " I don't get most of the abbreviations. Most of them

are only used while texting on cellphones, which the companies

promote because it costs more money to do that than to talk. Also all

the downloads and everything else that takes up expensive air time. "

Give me any language I read and speak, written properly, and I will I

have no problem whatsoever with the text. However, text me something

in complete jargon cellphone text and there are problems upon

problems.

I had to ask Cub for an example and he gave me this: " gunA opis 4

ck. Nd mor f%d. "

Anyone want to venture a guess as to what that means? It means he's

going to the office for his check because he needs to buy more food.

Like I said, I prefer language to be written properly.

Raven

Co-Administrator

[Guest guest]

" Perhaps simplification of spelling would make learning less of an

onerous task for the large majority of the population, but I

personally think it would mean a loss of depth of .... something,

call it depth of culture perhaps, call it ability to communicate at

the frontiers of abstract throught... "

I agree.

But we are living in a society where culture doesn't mean as much to

people as it once did.

I think people these days see " culture " as " recreation " and that is

not what culture is. When you have so many people seeing culture in

terms of recreational activities, and, maybe, ethnicity and personal

identity, I don't think they are going to care much about what gets

lost through a simplification of language.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

It seems to me that ideas expressed in English remain subtle no matter

how we spell the words for the ideas. The word " meaning, " for

instance, would not suddenly stop meaning anything if we spelled it

" meening " — any more than " grey " stopped referring to that color when

Americans some centuries ago restored one of the word's earlier

spellings, " gray. " Going to jail doesn't mean more — or less — or feel

much different if you spell it in earlier British fashion as " gaol. "

The past histories of words (which Hephaestus so reveres) would not

miraculously vanish if we got the spellings into better sync with the

sounds. If words needed to keep their first spellings forever, because

of how very much we love their histories, then we would have to call

it wrong to spell words like " lord " and " lady " instead of the way

that people spelled (and pronounced) these words long, long ago:

" hlafweord " and " hlafdige. " I'll take seriously those who demand

historical spellings if *they* promise to use only historical

spellings (and avoid all those later spell-as-it-sounds innovations

like " lord " and " lady " and myriad others that nobody now seriously

challenges).

;-)

Kate Gladstone

[Guest guest]

" Like most languages, English is also rather nonspecific in word

meanings. The same word can have different meanings. Part of that is

probably due to the fact that most people don't like to get tied

down, so they like wiggly words. That does cause problems, though,

since a person could mean one version of a word, while the listener

thinks something else. Probably no really neat way of cleaning that

up though. "

I was taught to read such words in context - however I agree some do

like to make things more vague with 'wiggly' words. Some -

politician's and spin being a prime example use 'wiggly' words, words

that to me are intentionally vauge and say lots without saying

anything at all - nothing concrete, nothing substantial. Even the

local council where I live seem to have this trend of using words in

such a way, but I guess that it's all politics.

>

>

> In a message dated 4/19/2007 4:58:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> lemnosforge@... writes:

>

> If you've ever taken a course in a foreign language, it is one of

the ways

> of learning to appreciate that even english is very limited in

it's expression

> of ideas. In the early 1990s I founded a reading and discussion

book based

> on the Great Books cirriculum. It was very successfull for five

years is when

> I left. At first we had people bring in their own choices of

translations of

> Gogol's The Overcoat and so forth, but the debating over the

meaning of words

> translated differently sometimes ended up eating up most of time

of the

> meetings. I think people who have had to do some translating in

classes or

> perhaps who have taken a class in poetry tend to develop an

appreciation for the

> depth of the meaning the choice of an individual word can have.

>

>

> All languages have certain things they are better at expressing

that others.

> English is a hybrid language that has strong mercantile

connections. That is

> one reason English is the language of trade today, one of the

reasons

> anyway. Other languages are more philosophical and still others are

just plain

> stuck and will probably die out because of their inability to

communicate modern

> ideas and conditions.

>

> Like most languages, English is also rather nonspecific in word

meanings.

> The same word can have different meanings. Part of that is probably

due to the

> fact that most people don't like to get tied down, so they like

wiggly words.

> That does cause problems, though, since a person could mean one

version of a

> word, while the listener thinks something else. Probably no really

neat way

> of cleaning that up though.

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You've just given a very good example of why it is important to write

as correctly as one can - I'll give you another :-)

I recently spoke to someone on the phone concerning a report that had

been wrote, the woman on the phone was having difficulty reading the

report as it was handwritten and in her words 'barely legible' and

this a report from an adult working working in the 'care' profession.

I did muse aloud that I was surprised such wasn't typed up on the

computer - she just said some of the adults working in the care field

were scared of computers; mmmmmmmm wonder if they were scared of

typewriters and word processors too? and by the sounds of things they

weren't overly familiar with a pen either :-)

>

>

> In a message dated 4/19/2007 5:13:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> ravenmagic2003@... writes:

>

> Like I said, I prefer language to be written properly.

>

> Raven

> Co-Administrator

>

>

>

> So do I. A few years ago there was a fad in the public schools

called

> " creative spelling. " In that, they taught the kids the first letter

of a word, then

> left them to figure out the rest: the discovery experience being

so

> valuable. Of course, this meant there was no enforced spelling

either. The result was

> that kids would write stories that teacher, and parents, would

have to ask

> them to read because they couldn't make heads or tails of the

writing. I saw

> examples of this writing back then. Not only was it really sloppy,

but you

> didn't have any idea what was going on.

>

> If people can't communicate, they can't cooperate. If they can't

cooperate,

> then the " other " starts to become a rival and a danger. It the same

way people

> don't trust those who don't speak their language. All that stuff

is just

> going to lead to a Tower of Babel society.

>

>

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/20/2007 2:51:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

I was taught to read such words in context - however I agree some do like to make things more vague with 'wiggly' words. Some - politician's and spin being a prime example use 'wiggly' words, words that to me are intentionally vauge and say lots without saying anything at all - nothing concrete, nothing substantial. Even the local council where I live seem to have this trend of using words in such a way, but I guess that it's all politics.

Context is very important, but it can be abused. Politicians and lawyers are expert at that. But that's nothing a stoutly swung leather, razor strop across the cheek wouldn't solve.

"Sir, You are quibbling."

"That depends on what the meaning of "is" is."

Whack!

"Care to rephrase your answer in a civilized form, now, sir?"

I've often wanted to be a TV interviewer with a shocker built into the guest's chair. When they'd mealy mouth or dance around and not give a direct answer, they'd get a little encouragement. Either answer directly or refuse to answer. If you can't state your real opinion, then don't.

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In a message dated 4/20/2007 11:15:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ravenmagic2003@... writes:

I asked Cub why the 'p' when an 'f' could be used just as easily and he said it's how a lot of kids talk these days, saying 'opis' for 'office' and 'ax' for 'ask' and that just translates to the texting.RavenCo-Administrator

Lazy so and so's. They've got lips, use them! Laziness in speaking shows a weak character.

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In a message dated 4/20/2007 11:15:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ravenmagic2003@... writes:

I asked Cub why the 'p' when an 'f' could be used just as easily and he said it's how a lot of kids talk these days, saying 'opis' for 'office' and 'ax' for 'ask' and that just translates to the texting.RavenCo-Administrator

Lazy so and so's. They've got lips, use them! Laziness in speaking shows a weak character.

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In a message dated 4/20/2007 11:59:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes:

"If you can't state your real opinion, then don't."This is why people hate Aspies. They tend to state their opinions openly.This is why I like Aspies. They tend to state their opinions openly.TomAdministrator

Or they keep their mouths shut, sometimes.

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[Guest guest]

Yup. You'd think it would be an " f. "

Tom

Administrator

Re Cub's " opis " for " office " — what motivates typing " p " foir the

sound /f/?

Kate Gladstone

[Guest guest]

I asked Cub why the 'p' when an 'f' could be used just as easily and he

said it's how a lot of kids talk these days, saying 'opis' for 'office'

and 'ax' for 'ask' and that just translates to the texting.

Raven

Co-Administrator

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> Re Cub's " opis " for " office " — what motivates typing " p " for the

sound /f/?

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> Kate Gladstone

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[Guest guest]

wrote: " ... <snip> ... she just said some of the adults working

in the care field were scared of computers; mmmmmmmm wonder if they

were scared of typewriters and word processors too? and by the sounds

of things they weren't overly familiar with a pen either

:-) "

Allegedly educated people scared of inanimate objects? I've heard that

excuse often by people who are too lazy to actually do the work

properly. Good Lord! :-o

Raven

Co-Administrator

[Guest guest]

" If you can't state your real opinion, then don't. "

This is why people hate Aspies. They tend to state their opinions

openly.

This is why I like Aspies. They tend to state their opinions openly.

Tom

Administrator