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In a message dated 3/28/00 12:28:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Taebotig@... writes:

<< what does this stuff claim to do in the first place? Is it a weight loss

drug

or what? >>

Angie,

Yes it is for weight loss or increased energy. Ever heard of Metabloife? It

contains this crap!

:( who thinks that this stuff should be ripped off the market!!!

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In a message dated 3/28/2000 3:31:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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<< Angie,

Yes it is for weight loss or increased energy. Ever heard of Metabloife? It

contains this crap!

:( who thinks that this stuff should be ripped off the market!!! >>

I have a friend who is taking a pill now dont know if its in it or not but

she has said that she loves it that it gives her so much energy....I dont

know if its in it or not but I will be asking.

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In a message dated 3/28/00 12:35:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Taebotig@... writes:

<< I have a friend who is taking a pill now dont know if its in it or not but

she has said that she loves it that it gives her so much energy....I dont

know if its in it or not but I will be asking >>

Ephendra is also known as Ma Haung. Have her check the label. If it is an

herbal fat burner or something like that, chances are it contains it.

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In a message dated 3/28/00 3:24:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Agaw12577@... writes:

<< Please go buy a copy of this month's Self magazine. The one with

Crawford on the cover. This stuff is so dangerous. Not only can it cause you

to have a heart problem or stroke, it has been discovered that it can cause

psychosis too! One of the stories is about a 28 year old marathon runner

with

no previous mental health problems. After taking Xenadrine, she thinks she

hears the voice of a famous athlete telling her to rush to him and conceive

his child. She gets in her car and is convinced that it is an airplane. She

races to him at speeds of 100 mph. Tragically she crashed into another car,

killing two teenage girls inside. There are so many scary stories in this

article about people hearing voices, contemplating killing people, thinking

they can fly.. None of these people had a history of mental illness. If

anyone on this list is taking this stuff, please read this article!!!!!!

:o

--- >>

Hi , I read that article last night. The funny thing is that my

girlfriend has been taking Megalift (supposed to be like metabolife) and was

trying to talk me into taking it because it burns the fat and makes you lose

weight. Well of course I was skeptical anyway and probably wouldn't have done

it, but after I read that article, definetly not !! From what I gathered this

Megalift would have the same ingredients in it that they were talking about.

Do you agree? If so I better talk her out of taking it too !!

Pam

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In a message dated 3/28/00 3:57:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, lucihs@...

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<< his stuff is so dangerous. Not only can it cause you

>to have a heart problem or stroke >>

I took these supposed fat burner pills that I got at GNC that had this Ma

Huang in it. Ohh god it was awful. I thought I was having a heart attack or

something!! I was scared to death! My heart started racing, and I was

having problems breathing. So, I stopped taking the pills. Not long after I

stopped I read an article in Shape or one of those magazines that said how

dangerous this stuff was and the side effects. They listed exactly what I

was experiencing...I was thankful I stopped when I did!!!

Penny

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Does anyone know if it is herbalife? A few of my friends are taking that and

swear by it saying it doesn't have that kind of chemical in it, but I am

skeptical. Any answers?

-Jenn

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>This stuff is so dangerous. Not only can it cause you

>to have a heart problem or stroke, it has been discovered that it can cause

>psychosis too!

This is what happens when healing herbs are misused or abused. I hate to see

ephedra marketed as a wieght-loss drug. It is beneficial for people who have

athsma or mucous in their lungs, like I sometimes get. It works like

primatine. In fact primatine is made from ephedra, but ephedra is usually

less stressful on the body in it's natural form. I use it once or twice

every month or so at a low dosage when I can't breathe normally, but I

certainly wouldn't use it every day or with caffeine. It is probably the

mixture of ephedra and other stimulants in wieght-loss pills and such, as

well as overdose that cause the hallucinations. I would urge anyone using it

regularly for any reason to carefully check the other ingredients in the

ephedra product and other possible stimulants in your diet. Any signs of

irritability, elevated non-excersising heartrate, or especially

hallucinations would be an indication to immediately stop using it.

Luci

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The Herbalife thermo-whatever-it's-called has guarana and Ma Huang in it.

That's a bad combination. I looked into buying it since so many people were

making a big deal about it. I decided if it didn't have those 2 ingredients

or caffeine in it I would try some. Well, I didn't get any because it has

those ingredients.

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The Herbalife thermo-whatever-it's-called has guarana and Ma Huang in it.

That's a bad combination. I looked into buying it since so many people were

making a big deal about it. I decided if it didn't have those 2 ingredients

or caffeine in it I would try some. Well, I didn't get any because it has

those ingredients.

Luci

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if anyone has any questions about drugs, i'd recommend the FDA website. you can type in the drug or ingredient and hit search and find out all kinds of things that you really don't want to know! www.fda.gov

LV, who came unglued when she discovered her baby brother taking this cr$p!

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Re: Anyone taking Ephendra...

Does anyone know if it is herbalife? A few of my friends are taking that and swear by it saying it doesn't have that kind of chemical in it, but I am skeptical. Any answers?-Jenn

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if anyone has any questions about drugs, i'd recommend the FDA website. you can type in the drug or ingredient and hit search and find out all kinds of things that you really don't want to know! www.fda.gov

LV, who came unglued when she discovered her baby brother taking this cr$p!

SSS and STYA

Re: Anyone taking Ephendra...

Does anyone know if it is herbalife? A few of my friends are taking that and swear by it saying it doesn't have that kind of chemical in it, but I am skeptical. Any answers?-Jenn

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In a message dated 3/28/00 6:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, lucihs@...

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<< The Herbalife thermo-whatever-it's-called has guarana and Ma Huang in it.

That's a bad combination. I looked into buying it since so many people were

making a big deal about it. I decided if it didn't have those 2 ingredients

or caffeine in it I would try some. Well, I didn't get any because it has

those ingredients.

Luci >>

Thanks for letting me know so quick...I will pass the word onto my friends!

Jenn

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cheyenne2000383-@... wrote:

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> Does anyone know if it is herbalife? A few of my friends are taking

that and

> swear by it saying it doesn't have that kind of chemical in it, but I

am

> skeptical. Any answers?

Jenn,

I took herbalife back in my early twenties and I'm almost positive that

the green pills (thermogenics...I think) have ma huang and guarana in

them. I never had any negative side effects from them and they

definitely give you energy and curb your appetite.

who was an herbalife distributor and went to an herbalife convention

and was a little scared by all the people popping all their pills every

day :)

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if anyone has any questions about drugs, i'd recommend the FDA website. you

can type in the drug or ingredient and hit search and find out all kinds of

things that you really don't want to know! www.fda.gov

Ugh! I hate the FDA. They are the ones who don't let manufacturers properly

label their products. if the munufacturers were allowed to put what to use

the product for and how to use it safely these things would be less harmful.

I suppose the website could be useful, though.

Luci

who couldn't go to web cause the computer went nuts, but will try gain

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In a message dated 3/28/00 5:05:30 PM Central Standard Time,

PDellvener@... writes:

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I took these supposed fat burner pills that I got at GNC that had this Ma

Huang in it. Ohh god it was awful. I thought I was having a heart attack

or

something!! I was scared to death! My heart started racing, and I was

having problems breathing. So, I stopped taking the pills. Not long after

I

stopped I read an article in Shape or one of those magazines that said how

dangerous this stuff was and the side effects. They listed exactly what I

was experiencing...I was thankful I stopped when I did!!!

Penny >>

I WAS TAKING A SUPER FAT BURNER BY ACTION LAB MY MIL GAVE IT TO ME AND SHE

DID ALL THE RESEARCH ON IT THAT WAS NEED TO SALE THIS PRODUCT AT THE GROCERY

CHAIN THAT SHE WORKS FOR I MIGHT ADD SHE IS VERY CARFUL ABOUT WHAT SHE

TRIES (AS SHE IS ALLERGIC TO EVERYTHING ) SABRINA CAN VOUCH FOR THAT I DIDNT

GET ANY SIDE EFFECTS FROM THIS AND I DID LOSE SOME WIEGHT IN THE WEEK THAT I

TOOK IT I STOPPED TAKING IT BECAUSE I HATE TAKING PILLS AND AT THAT TIME I

WAS TAKING ABOUT 50 PILLS ALONE WITH MY MEDS AND I WOULD NEED TO TAKE 4 MORE

WITH THIS SUPPLEMENT IT IS ALL NATURAL IN THE 4 TABLETS YOU GET 15 MG VITAMIN

B-6, 95MG CALCIUM , 75 MG PHOSPHORUS AND WHOLE LOT MORE BUT THOSE ARE THE

BIGGIES ON THE BOTTLE I COULD FEEL A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN I WAS TAKING THESE

AND I REALLY NEED TO START BACK ON THEM I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT I COULD DO

WITH THESE PILLS AND TAE BO TOGATHER

ROMIE

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In a message dated 3/28/00 5:05:30 PM Central Standard Time,

PDellvener@... writes:

<<

I took these supposed fat burner pills that I got at GNC that had this Ma

Huang in it. Ohh god it was awful. I thought I was having a heart attack

or

something!! I was scared to death! My heart started racing, and I was

having problems breathing. So, I stopped taking the pills. Not long after

I

stopped I read an article in Shape or one of those magazines that said how

dangerous this stuff was and the side effects. They listed exactly what I

was experiencing...I was thankful I stopped when I did!!!

Penny >>

I WAS TAKING A SUPER FAT BURNER BY ACTION LAB MY MIL GAVE IT TO ME AND SHE

DID ALL THE RESEARCH ON IT THAT WAS NEED TO SALE THIS PRODUCT AT THE GROCERY

CHAIN THAT SHE WORKS FOR I MIGHT ADD SHE IS VERY CARFUL ABOUT WHAT SHE

TRIES (AS SHE IS ALLERGIC TO EVERYTHING ) SABRINA CAN VOUCH FOR THAT I DIDNT

GET ANY SIDE EFFECTS FROM THIS AND I DID LOSE SOME WIEGHT IN THE WEEK THAT I

TOOK IT I STOPPED TAKING IT BECAUSE I HATE TAKING PILLS AND AT THAT TIME I

WAS TAKING ABOUT 50 PILLS ALONE WITH MY MEDS AND I WOULD NEED TO TAKE 4 MORE

WITH THIS SUPPLEMENT IT IS ALL NATURAL IN THE 4 TABLETS YOU GET 15 MG VITAMIN

B-6, 95MG CALCIUM , 75 MG PHOSPHORUS AND WHOLE LOT MORE BUT THOSE ARE THE

BIGGIES ON THE BOTTLE I COULD FEEL A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN I WAS TAKING THESE

AND I REALLY NEED TO START BACK ON THEM I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT I COULD DO

WITH THESE PILLS AND TAE BO TOGATHER

ROMIE

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In a message dated 3/28/00 5:16:01 PM Central Standard Time,

Cheyenne20003831@... writes:

<< Does anyone know if it is herbalife? A few of my friends are taking that

and

swear by it saying it doesn't have that kind of chemical in it, but I am

skeptical. Any answers?

-Jenn >>

I USED HERBALIFE YEARS AGO AND IT MADE ME JITTERY AND NEAUSEAS I WAS LOSING

MORE THROWING UP ALL THE TIME...LOL... I LEARNED MY LESON I NEVER USED THAT

ONE AGAIN

ROMIE

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In a message dated 3/28/00 5:16:01 PM Central Standard Time,

Cheyenne20003831@... writes:

<< Does anyone know if it is herbalife? A few of my friends are taking that

and

swear by it saying it doesn't have that kind of chemical in it, but I am

skeptical. Any answers?

-Jenn >>

I USED HERBALIFE YEARS AGO AND IT MADE ME JITTERY AND NEAUSEAS I WAS LOSING

MORE THROWING UP ALL THE TIME...LOL... I LEARNED MY LESON I NEVER USED THAT

ONE AGAIN

ROMIE

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Well, I've found that Mom is not always so careful. She was trying to stuff

Dad with these diet pills that have Ephedrin in them. And he has heart

problems. I yelled at her big time!!! I also took the pills home with me

and threw them away. If he just took his ##$%$%# fiber pills he'd be better

off. But does he or she listen to me nooooooooooooooooo

Oh my parents make me SO mad!!!! I pretty much told my mother to lose weight

this last weekend. I have been trying to be nice about it for years, but I

think the woman has a death wish. She doesn't even wear a seatbelt!!!!

Sorry

I WAS TAKING A SUPER FAT BURNER BY ACTION LAB MY MIL GAVE IT TO ME AND SHE

DID ALL THE RESEARCH ON IT THAT WAS NEED TO SALE THIS PRODUCT AT THE GROCERY

CHAIN THAT SHE WORKS FOR I MIGHT ADD SHE IS VERY CARFUL ABOUT WHAT SHE

TRIES (AS SHE IS ALLERGIC TO EVERYTHING ) SABRINA CAN VOUCH FOR THAT I DIDNT

GET ANY SIDE EFFECTS FROM THIS AND I DID LOSE SOME WIEGHT IN THE WEEK THAT I

TOOK IT I STOPPED TAKING IT BECAUSE I HATE TAKING PILLS AND AT THAT TIME I

WAS TAKING ABOUT 50 PILLS ALONE WITH MY MEDS AND I WOULD NEED TO TAKE 4 MORE

WITH THIS SUPPLEMENT IT IS ALL NATURAL IN THE 4 TABLETS YOU GET 15 MG

VITAMIN

B-6, 95MG CALCIUM , 75 MG PHOSPHORUS AND WHOLE LOT MORE BUT THOSE ARE THE

BIGGIES ON THE BOTTLE I COULD FEEL A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN I WAS TAKING THESE

AND I REALLY NEED TO START BACK ON THEM I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT I COULD DO

WITH THESE PILLS AND TAE BO TOGATHER

ROMIE >>

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In a message dated 3/31/00 10:47:20 AM Central Standard Time,

GalofGOP@... writes:

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Well, I've found that Mom is not always so careful. She was trying to stuff

Dad with these diet pills that have Ephedrin in them. And he has heart

problems. I yelled at her big time!!! I also took the pills home with me

and threw them away. If he just took his ##$%$%# fiber pills he'd be better

off. But does he or she listen to me nooooooooooooooooo

Oh my parents make me SO mad!!!! I pretty much told my mother to lose

weight

this last weekend. I have been trying to be nice about it for years, but I

think the woman has a death wish. She doesn't even wear a seatbelt!!!!

Sorry

>>

OK NOW ON MOMS DEFENSE I KNOW SHE ALWAYS WEARS A SEAT BELT I KNOW THIS FOR A

FACT AND YES SHE NEEDS TO LOSE WIEGHT BUT YOU HAVE TO LET HER GO AT HER OWN

RATE NOT YOURS AS FOR DAD WELL HE WILL IN TIME AND IT WILL BE BEFORE IT IS

TOO LATE HE IS TRYING SO HARD RIGHT NOW AND WELL I AM THE ONE WHO HELPS HIM

ALONG WITH A HEALTHY LUNCH ATLEAST TWICE A WEEK PLUS HE HAS BEEN EATING LOTS

OF FRUIT INSTEAD OF SNACKING ON JUNK FOOD ...OK SOMETIMES HE GOES OVER BOARD

ON THE JUNK FOOD BUT HE IS CHANGING HIS WAY ....... AS FOR THE PILLS I DONT

THINK SHE KNEW THE DANGER OF THE DRUGS SEEING AS HOW I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT

IT MYSELF ... REMEMBER YOUR LITTLE INCIDENT WITH OVER THE COUNTER ALLERGIE

MEDS ..? IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE SABRINA THEY WILL CHANGE BUT NOT BECAUSE

THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO IT WILL BE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ... SO DONT STRESS

YOURSELF OVER IT STRESS IS NOT HEALTHY FOR YOU OR YOURPRETTY LITTLE FACE

HEHEHEHE... LOVE YA SIL

ROMIE

WHO SEES MOM AND DAD EVERYDAY ..... TRUST ME SABRINA WORRIES TOO MUCH

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In a message dated 3/31/00 9:28:25 PM Central Standard Time,

FRCHYFREY@... writes:

<< OK NOW ON MOMS DEFENSE I KNOW SHE ALWAYS WEARS A SEAT BELT I KNOW THIS FOR

A

FACT AND YES SHE NEEDS TO LOSE WIEGHT BUT YOU HAVE TO LET HER GO AT HER OWN

RATE NOT YOURS AS FOR DAD WELL HE WILL IN TIME AND IT WILL BE BEFORE IT IS

TOO LATE HE IS TRYING SO HARD RIGHT NOW AND WELL I AM THE ONE WHO HELPS HIM

ALONG WITH A HEALTHY LUNCH ATLEAST TWICE A WEEK PLUS HE HAS BEEN EATING

LOTS

OF FRUIT INSTEAD OF SNACKING ON JUNK FOOD ...OK SOMETIMES HE GOES OVER BOARD

ON THE JUNK FOOD BUT HE IS CHANGING HIS WAY ....... AS FOR THE PILLS I DONT

THINK SHE KNEW THE DANGER OF THE DRUGS SEEING AS HOW I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT

IT MYSELF ... REMEMBER YOUR LITTLE INCIDENT WITH OVER THE COUNTER ALLERGIE

MEDS ..? IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE SABRINA THEY WILL CHANGE BUT NOT BECAUSE

THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO IT WILL BE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ... SO DONT STRESS

YOURSELF OVER IT STRESS IS NOT HEALTHY FOR YOU OR YOURPRETTY LITTLE FACE

HEHEHEHE... LOVE YA SIL

ROMIE

WHO SEES MOM AND DAD EVERYDAY ..... TRUST ME SABRINA WORRIES TOO MUCH

>>

I havent seen mom wear a seatbelt without me aksing her too in years. I

think she does around the kids to set a good example...but she doesn't wear

it when I'm around. (when Dad is driving, not her)

She doesn't want to loose weight because she lives to be miserable. Mother

can never accept tha fact that she has the ability to change her situation.

She is stuck in a horrible job, when she can get much better. Really. She

just doesnt want to believe she can. She also doesn't really want to loose

weight or try to be more healthy. If she did she might stop drinking so

much. I REALLY think she needs to see a therapist again. IMO.

Who moved away from her mother soon enough to break the bad habits but can

still recognize them since she once had them

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In a message dated 03/31/2000 10:28:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

FRCHYFREY@... writes:

<< THEY WILL CHANGE BUT NOT BECAUSE

THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO IT WILL BE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ... SO DONT STRESS

YOURSELF OVER IT STRESS IS NOT HEALTHY FOR YOU OR YOURPRETTY LITTLE FACE

HEHEHEHE... LOVE YA SIL

ROMIE

WHO SEES MOM AND DAD EVERYDAY ..... TRUST ME SABRINA WORRIES TOO MUCH >>

as we get older and stare our mortality in the face, we do change. For

example, my mom was a heavy smoker and didn't care about blowing smoke in the

face of non-smokers. We requested no smoke in our home after having our first

baby and she was very nasty about it. Then she suddenly decided to stop and

now is nastier with smokers who insist on smoking around her. Look how I

have changed my life style after passing the dreaded age of 50. It really is

never too late, well, except with perhaps a seatbelt :(

Barb

who always was a non-smoker and seatbelt wearer and so are the hubby & kids

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In a message dated 03/31/2000 10:28:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

FRCHYFREY@... writes:

<< THEY WILL CHANGE BUT NOT BECAUSE

THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO IT WILL BE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ... SO DONT STRESS

YOURSELF OVER IT STRESS IS NOT HEALTHY FOR YOU OR YOURPRETTY LITTLE FACE

HEHEHEHE... LOVE YA SIL

ROMIE

WHO SEES MOM AND DAD EVERYDAY ..... TRUST ME SABRINA WORRIES TOO MUCH >>

as we get older and stare our mortality in the face, we do change. For

example, my mom was a heavy smoker and didn't care about blowing smoke in the

face of non-smokers. We requested no smoke in our home after having our first

baby and she was very nasty about it. Then she suddenly decided to stop and

now is nastier with smokers who insist on smoking around her. Look how I

have changed my life style after passing the dreaded age of 50. It really is

never too late, well, except with perhaps a seatbelt :(

Barb

who always was a non-smoker and seatbelt wearer and so are the hubby & kids

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