RE: Natural Killer Cells-we don't have many at all!!

[Guest guest]

Hey Kathy B. in Chicago,

I'm not sure what Dr. G. does for that, but my daughter and i have horrible

immune systems and we both take Kutapressin injections and she takes gamma

globulin injections IM. That works well for us.

Tina

Tina M. Hendrix

Cure2000@...

President, Coalition, Northern California

Neuro-Immune Dysfunction Syndromes

Autism Spectrum Disorder, ADD/ADHD, Learning Disorders, Hyperactivity, CFS,

etc.

[Guest guest]

AT the DAN Conference, there was talk of using Transfer Factor to build up

NKC's and the immunce system in general. I ordered some for my son.

In a message dated 5/25/2001 11:10:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

liamcbuckley@... writes:

<< i!!

We just had our repeat bloodwork back from Dr. G after a year of treatment

and we had some good news and bad news. The good news is that our

alpha-inferon came down from 197 to 72. Is alpha-interferon a measure of

inflammation, infection or for the immune system in general? That was the

good news. The bad news is that we have almost no natural T killer cells at

all. Does anyone know what Dr. G does for this? I was completely floored

and am now completely convinced of my son's horrible immune system. Please

help!! Thanks!! Kathy B ( In Chicago)

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

How did you order it? THanks.. KathyB

[Guest guest]

Hi TIna,

Who prescribes the gamma globluin for you? I really think the Kutapressin is

a great drug. Colin was on it for 3 months every day and we saw a real

improvement with him. We are now at every other day and I would like to go

back to every day. I am really thinking the Kutapressin may be the medicine

that has helped bring our alpha inteferon down. We also don't have any IGE.

Wow, this whole thing is so mind boggling!! I guess, if there is something

wrong, then we at least have something to fix and maybe Colin will get better

and better! I am hopeful! Thanks for your response. Kathy B (Chicago)

[Guest guest]

Dear Kathy B,

You have given a beautiful example as to why the protocol at this

time takes 3-4 years and why some children have to be on maintenance therapy

after finishing the protocol. I might also add this is also why the other

therapies just do not do the job. The immune system is complex and it takes

years to normalize. What you can do is to be vigilant about reducing triggers

and sticking with the protocol. All of this may become more rapid when we

have some good immune modulators to work with but unfortunately that is not

yet the case! Kathy R - Northern New York

[Guest guest]

,

What is in the transfer factor? Is it a pure substance? Does it stimulate

the immune system? How does it work? Kathy R - Northern New York

[Guest guest]

hello everyone.,

i am mother of an autistic kid who is 3 years old. He

is slightly affected, and not hyperactive, not

aggressive. Only problem is lack of communication and

socialization. what drugs cani use for him. Doctors

here are not suggestingme and inturn saying that only

interventions will workout. His blood tests also

normal. please suggest me if anyone having any idea.

swapna

--- liamcbuckley@... wrote:

> Hi TIna,

> Who prescribes the gamma globluin for you? I really

> think the Kutapressin is

> a great drug. Colin was on it for 3 months every

> day and we saw a real

> improvement with him. We are now at every other day

> and I would like to go

> back to every day. I am really thinking the

> Kutapressin may be the medicine

> that has helped bring our alpha inteferon down. We

> also don't have any IGE.

> Wow, this whole thing is so mind boggling!! I

> guess, if there is something

> wrong, then we at least have something to fix and

> maybe Colin will get better

> and better! I am hopeful! Thanks for your

> response. Kathy B (Chicago)

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/26/2001 10:04:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

JOSKAT95@... writes:

<<

,

What is in the transfer factor? Is it a pure substance? Does it stimulate

the immune system? How does it work? Kathy R - Northern New York

>>

I found out about it at the DAN Conference. All I know is that it's derived

from colostrum, seems like a concentrated form of the immune fighters in it.

On the charts they had it showed that colostrum had about a 23% improvement

to the immune system, echinechea 34%, transfer factor 100 something percent

and transfer factor plus had a 243% improvement in nkc's. I'm still finding

out more about it. I can let you know what I find out if you'd like. I also

have the number for the distributer if you want. I ordered some but have not

received it yet.

[Guest guest]

Dr Goldberg has alot of information on TF on his website. If you go into

the conference area and search on Transfer factor, there are 17 messages. I

would read what he has to say about it.

Good luck and God bless.

Suzanne

From: JOSKAT95@...

Reply-

Subject: Re: Natural Killer Cells-we don't have many at all!!

Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:03:11 EDT

,

What is in the transfer factor? Is it a pure substance? Does it stimulate

the immune system? How does it work? Kathy R - Northern New York

[Guest guest]

I have been using Transfer Factor for about 2 years and having wonderful

success for a non toxic, 100% safe, no side effects, and all natural this is

absolutely the best product anywhere on the market. It has helped with many

of our problems for an IMMUNE MODULATING product to control the overactive,

underactive immune system. Does not matter which you have it will modulate

it.

Re: Natural Killer Cells-we don't have many at all!!

> AT the DAN Conference, there was talk of using Transfer Factor to build up

> NKC's and the immunce system in general. I ordered some for my son.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/25/2001 11:10:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> liamcbuckley@... writes:

>

> << i!!

> We just had our repeat bloodwork back from Dr. G after a year of

treatment

> and we had some good news and bad news. The good news is that our

> alpha-inferon came down from 197 to 72. Is alpha-interferon a measure of

> inflammation, infection or for the immune system in general? That was

the

> good news. The bad news is that we have almost no natural T killer cells

at

> all. Does anyone know what Dr. G does for this? I was completely

floored

> and am now completely convinced of my son's horrible immune system.

Please

> help!! Thanks!! Kathy B ( In Chicago)

> >>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tina, Is there a coalition for in Southern California? Who orders your

Kutapressin?? I have been to see Dr. Galpin next door to Dr. G. and my son

just had his first appt. with Dr. G. I was on Kutapressin for 6 months or

less in 1989 and it helped tremendously. The protocol at that time was a

limited period of time to use the product. I have and so does my son

who is 16. Two sisters severely involved with the illness and two other sons

were not diagnosed officially but probably have it too.

in Orange County CA

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[Guest guest]

I woul like to say that I have been trying to give you all information about

Transfer Factor for over a year ... noone would listen to me ... now

apparently Dr. Goldberg who would never respond to me has decided that I

knew about these products and were all they claimed to be with the medical

research and science behind them ... I wish someone would listen when post

are made and do the research even if Dr. Goldberg does not recommend it at

that time...It could simply be because he has not heard of it or had the

time to research yet. And I have taken nasty emails from my post simply

because I have done my research and I have been using Transfer Factor or

over 2 years and trying to help other ... I do not understand why so many

won't listen unless a Doctor says do it !!!! Could someone please explain

to me why that is?

Re: Natural Killer Cells-we don't have many at all!!

> In a message dated 5/26/2001 10:04:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> JOSKAT95@... writes:

>

> <<

> ,

> What is in the transfer factor? Is it a pure substance? Does it

stimulate

> the immune system? How does it work? Kathy R - Northern New York

> >>

>

> I found out about it at the DAN Conference. All I know is that it's

derived

> from colostrum, seems like a concentrated form of the immune fighters in

it.

> On the charts they had it showed that colostrum had about a 23%

improvement

> to the immune system, echinechea 34%, transfer factor 100 something

percent

> and transfer factor plus had a 243% improvement in nkc's. I'm still

finding

> out more about it. I can let you know what I find out if you'd like. I

also

> have the number for the distributer if you want. I ordered some but have

not

> received it yet.

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How can I find out if my son will benefit from this

and I do I order it. Thanks for the info.

--- Lake260@... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/26/2001 10:04:38 AM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> JOSKAT95@... writes:

>

> <<

> ,

> What is in the transfer factor? Is it a pure

> substance? Does it stimulate

> the immune system? How does it work? Kathy R -

> Northern New York

> >>

>

> I found out about it at the DAN Conference. All I

> know is that it's derived

> from colostrum, seems like a concentrated form of

> the immune fighters in it.

> On the charts they had it showed that colostrum had

> about a 23% improvement

> to the immune system, echinechea 34%, transfer

> factor 100 something percent

> and transfer factor plus had a 243% improvement in

> nkc's. I'm still finding

> out more about it. I can let you know what I find

> out if you'd like. I also

> have the number for the distributer if you want. I

> ordered some but have not

> received it yet.

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I've been hearing alot and reading up on this myself the past couple

of weeks. In your post, it sounded like you had heard Dr. G. say that

this is alright after all. Is that correct? I'm not bashing, just

interested in giving this to my son too. My son has any OVER active

nkc count, so will this " cool it down " so to speak? I found

some that is made for kids, it's in gummie bear form I believe, and

has some other great stuff in it to that my son needs very badly.

Where do you get yours and what form does it come in? Thanks in

advance.

Sincerely,

Diane B.

> I woul like to say that I have been trying to give you all

information about

> Transfer Factor for over a year ... noone would listen to me ... now

> apparently Dr. Goldberg who would never respond to me has decided

that I

> knew about these products and were all they claimed to be with the

medical

> research and science behind them ... I wish someone would listen

when post

> are made and do the research even if Dr. Goldberg does not recommend

it at

> that time...It could simply be because he has not heard of it or had

the

> time to research yet. And I have taken nasty emails from my post

simply

> because I have done my research and I have been using Transfer

Factor or

> over 2 years and trying to help other ... I do not understand why so

many

> won't listen unless a Doctor says do it !!!! Could someone please

explain

> to me why that is?

>

>

> Re: Natural Killer Cells-we don't have many at all!!

>

>

> > In a message dated 5/26/2001 10:04:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > JOSKAT95@a... writes:

> >

> > <<

> > ,

> > What is in the transfer factor? Is it a pure substance? Does it

> stimulate

> > the immune system? How does it work? Kathy R - Northern New

York

> > >>

> >

> > I found out about it at the DAN Conference. All I know is that

it's

> derived

> > from colostrum, seems like a concentrated form of the immune

fighters in

> it.

> > On the charts they had it showed that colostrum had about a 23%

> improvement

> > to the immune system, echinechea 34%, transfer factor 100

something

> percent

> > and transfer factor plus had a 243% improvement in nkc's. I'm

still

> finding

> > out more about it. I can let you know what I find out if you'd

like. I

> also

> > have the number for the distributer if you want. I ordered some

but have

> not

> > received it yet.

> >

> >

> > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> > opinion of the Research Institute.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I just want to say thank you to you all for all of the information! We have

our phone consult in a week and a half and I will talk with Dr. G about it

then. Thank you! Kathy B

[Guest guest]

I thought that this post gave the message that Dr. Goldberg is now endorsing

the use of Transfer Factor. That is not the case. While he is interested

in its contents and processing he still cautions against it on the basis of

triggering the wrong things in the immune system. Remember, much of what he

advises has to do with eliminating rather than adding things to the system.

Re: Natural Killer Cells-we don't have many at all!!

>

>

> > In a message dated 5/26/2001 10:04:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > JOSKAT95@... writes:

> >

> > <<

> > ,

> > What is in the transfer factor? Is it a pure substance? Does it

> stimulate

> > the immune system? How does it work? Kathy R - Northern New York

> > >>

> >

> > I found out about it at the DAN Conference. All I know is that it's

> derived

> > from colostrum, seems like a concentrated form of the immune fighters in

> it.

> > On the charts they had it showed that colostrum had about a 23%

> improvement

> > to the immune system, echinechea 34%, transfer factor 100 something

> percent

> > and transfer factor plus had a 243% improvement in nkc's. I'm still

> finding

> > out more about it. I can let you know what I find out if you'd like. I

> also

> > have the number for the distributer if you want. I ordered some but

have

> not

> > received it yet.

> >

> >

> > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> > opinion of the Research Institute.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi

> Tina, Is there a coalition for in Southern California?

Yes, contact Marc Share: marcs@...

Who orders your

> Kutapressin??

My pharmacy does. Safeway Pharmacy, Calistoga Rd., Santa , CA. If you

call them they will tell you who their supplier is: (707)539-2129

I have been to see Dr. Galpin next door to Dr. G. and my son

> just had his first appt. with Dr. G. I was on Kutapressin for 6 months or

> less in 1989 and it helped tremendously. The protocol at that time was a

> limited period of time to use the product.

>

> My ASD daughter has been using it successfully for three years, dosage

> slowly decreasing.

I have and so does my son

> who is 16. Two sisters severely involved with the illness and two other sons

> were not diagnosed officially but probably have it too.

Kutapressin as well as other aspects of Dr. G's protocol have helped me

immensely as well. Get in contact with the chapter in So. Cal. They

are supportive, knowlegable folks. There is also a possibility of a

conf. this fall in So. CAL.

>

> in Orange County CA

>

Tina M. Hendrix

Cure2000@...

President, Coalition, Northern California

Neuro-Immune Dysfunction Syndromes

Autism Spectrum Disorder, ADD/ADHD, Learning Disorders, Hyperactivity, CFS,

etc.

[Guest guest]

That is great that you are having great success and that you think it is due

to transfer factor. Your opinion, however valid, is anecdotal and not a

scientific study. No one has a right to insult anything that you post

however, everyone has the right to question in a polite, fair way. People in

the health care fields are given credibility for medical decision making

because they have the education, training, and experience that lay people do

not have. If we have a plumbing problem we call a plumber, if I want a new

telephone line I call the telephone company. We all go to specialists! I

would not go to my dentist, who is very good, for a hair cut. Why would I

take information from a stranger on the web and apply it to the health and

well being of my little girl? When people bring their kids to me they are not

bringing them because I am a nice person, but because I have a body of

knowledge, and area of expertise, consisting of years of education and thirty

years of experience. I would hope that my opinion in the area of my expertise

has more credence than someone who does not have my credentials. This does

not mean that a person without a healthcare background cannot do research and

make some observations and draw some brilliant conclusions but is this

someone who should be providing healthcare information? The value of

education sometimes is to make you learn how little you really do know.

Knowledge does a times equate to power but that power has to be handled very

prudently. Kathy R -Northern New York

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/2/01 10:39:22 AM Central Daylight Time, JOSKAT95@...

writes:

> People in

> the health care fields are given credibility for medical decision making

> because they have the education, training, and experience that lay people

> do

> not have.

Kathy,

This may be true. However, I can't tell you how many times I've been misled

by the " educated " . The doctor who originally diagnosed my son would not

label him with anything, but only told me there was something " really wrong "

and I should look into special schools. Where was I supposed to go with

that?

Most often, I walk into the local doctors office and I end up being the one

telling the doctor about the research, science, etc that I have read/heard

about. It is very discouraging that most docs are not up to date about

what's out there for our kids. My kids primary care physician told me that

he believes the increase in " autism " is due to better

diagnosis......(thankfully, in spite of this, he has been very supportive of

working with Dr G (ordering tests, etc), and consulted with him about what Dr

G believes is going on with my kids and how Dr G is treating them).

I think, as parents, it's our job to get as much information as possible. We

are the ones who ultimately have to decide which direction to take with these

kids, and we have to live with the results.

Sharon

P.S. It was actually the internet that led me to Dr Goldberg. I spent six

months reading over his website and checking out the facts before I made the

decision to make an appointment for my child. Sharing information is a good

thing, but you are right, it is our responsibility to check it out before

applying it.

[Guest guest]

I am new to this website, so I feel silly asking, but

can some one explain to me what stands for and is

all about?

--- Cure2000@... wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> > Tina, Is there a coalition for in Southern

> California?

>

> Yes, contact Marc Share: marcs@...

>

> Who orders your

> > Kutapressin??

>

> My pharmacy does. Safeway Pharmacy, Calistoga Rd.,

> Santa , CA. If you

> call them they will tell you who their supplier is:

> (707)539-2129

>

> I have been to see Dr. Galpin next door to Dr. G.

> and my son

> > just had his first appt. with Dr. G. I was on

> Kutapressin for 6 months or

> > less in 1989 and it helped tremendously. The

> protocol at that time was a

> > limited period of time to use the product.

> >

> > My ASD daughter has been using it successfully for

> three years, dosage

> > slowly decreasing.

>

> I have and so does my son

> > who is 16. Two sisters severely involved with the

> illness and two other sons

> > were not diagnosed officially but probably have it

> too.

>

> Kutapressin as well as other aspects of Dr. G's

> protocol have helped me

> immensely as well. Get in contact with the

> chapter in So. Cal. They

> are supportive, knowlegable folks. There is also a

> possibility of a

> conf. this fall in So. CAL.

>

> >

> > in Orange County CA

> >

>

>

> Tina M. Hendrix

> Cure2000@...

> President, Coalition, Northern California

> Neuro-Immune Dysfunction Syndromes

> Autism Spectrum Disorder, ADD/ADHD, Learning

> Disorders, Hyperactivity, CFS,

> etc.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Tina, Thank you so much for the information on Kutapressin and the Southern

California Coalition. I have a very important question that I need to

find an answer to ASAP. Do you know of any resource- especially comments

written by Dr. G. re: Stimulants for children? I read his article on

Ritalin and the information for ADD/ADHD on the web site for Dr. G. is under

construction. I need to know in particular about the effect of amphetamines

such as Dexedrine on the brain and resulting behavior and risks vs any

benefits.

Thank you so much for your help.

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[Guest guest]

Sharon,

I don''t disagree with you. We are all people with the peculiarities that go

with that! Narrow mindedness, closed mind, fear, prejudice...All of the

blocks to communication that make life so hard. Many of the practitioners who

are difficult to work with might be amenable to new ideas if we had the time

to really sit down and explain it but the present health care system simply

does not allow for that in my experience. I really still think that many of

the people that go into health care go into it because they do want to help

people. Yes, we as parents have to do research and I think that includes

coming up with health care providers that are supportive. It is sometimes not

easy but everyone who is successful paves the way for another family!

Remember the physician who treats himself has a fool for a patient. There are

many people in the organization who are self educated lay people who

have a fantastic command of a difficult body of knowledge. There are also

people on this LISTSERV who don't, but this does not stop them from

dispensing medical advice! This really disturbs me. Again, just because

someone thinks that a product is helping their child does not mean that a. it

really is or that b. it would help someone else's and c. it won't harm

someone else's. Kathy -Northern New York

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/4/01 10:19:26 AM Central Daylight Time, JOSKAT95@...

writes:

> Sharon,

> I don''t disagree with you. We are all people with the peculiarities that

> go

> with that! Narrow mindedness, closed mind, fear, prejudice...All of the

> blocks to communication that make life so hard. Many of the practitioners

> who

> are difficult to work with might be amenable to new ideas if we had the

> time

> to really sit down and explain it but the present health care system simply

> does not allow for that in my experience. I really still think that many of

> the people that go into health care go into it because they do want to help

> people. Yes, we as parents have to do research and I think that includes

> coming up with health care providers that are supportive. It is sometimes

> not

> easy but everyone who is successful paves the way for another family!

> Remember the physician who treats himself has a fool for a patient. There

> are

> many people in the organization who are self educated lay people who

> have a fantastic command of a difficult body of knowledge. There are also

> people on this LISTSERV who don't, but this does not stop them from

> dispensing medical advice! This really disturbs me. Again, just because

> someone thinks that a product is helping their child does not mean that a.

> it

> really is or that b. it would help someone else's and c. it won't harm

> someone else's. Kathy -Northern New York

>

>

Kathy,

Totally agreed. I just wouldn't want anybody to feel afraid of sharing

experiences. It is definitely our responsibility to read between the lines

and check it out. I hope that we are all intelligent enough to realize that

internet advice is just that. The internet is not my physician, but it has

been a good source of information and leads (look at how I found out about

).

I do agree with you about some of the advice Kathy. Unfortunately, this is a

disease with a million " miracle " cures. I personally would just like a magic

pill please :-)

Sharon

[Guest guest]

,

I wish i knew more on his opinion of Ritalin & Stimulants in relation to

patients, but i don't. You can try e-mailing him or get into the Tues. nite

chats. office@... (818)343-1010.

Does anyone else on this list have info for ?

Tina

In a message dated 6/2/01 6:34:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

lauwva@... writes:

> Tina, Thank you so much for the information on Kutapressin and the Southern

> California Coalition. I have a very important question that I need to

> find an answer to ASAP. Do you know of any resource- especially comments

> written by Dr. G. re: Stimulants for children? I read his article on

> Ritalin and the information for ADD/ADHD on the web site for Dr. G. is

> under

> construction. I need to know in particular about the effect of

> amphetamines

> such as Dexedrine on the brain and resulting behavior and risks vs any

> benefits.

>

> Thank you so much for your help.

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

>

Tina M. Hendrix

Cure2000@...

President, Coalition, Northern California

Neuro-Immune Dysfunction Syndromes

Autism Spectrum Disorder, ADD/ADHD, Learning Disorders, Hyperactivity, CFS,

etc.

[Guest guest]

Neuro Immune Dysfunction Syndromes. The place to get the 411 on is

www..net and www.neuroimmunedr.com

In a message dated 6/3/01 6:58:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sharnitap@... writes:

> I am new to this website, so I feel silly asking, but

> can some one explain to me what stands for and is

> all about?

>

>

>

>

Tina M. Hendrix

Cure2000@...

President, Coalition, Northern California

Neuro-Immune Dysfunction Syndromes

Autism Spectrum Disorder, ADD/ADHD, Learning Disorders, Hyperactivity, CFS,

etc.