Re: hallucinations/psychotic symptoms

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Dear ,

I feel so sad when I hear stories like this. I want parents to know

there are other options. Although medications are sometimes

necessary, in this instance it seems obvious to me, as a DAN!

physician, that the meds are not the answer for your daughter. It is

well documented that pharmaceuticals, like the ones mentioned, can

often actually CAUSE terrible symptoms such as hallucinations,

psychosis, aggression, and most tragic of all, suicidal tendencies.

You have options and I would recommend exhausting all of those

options before accepting her increasing health conditions as

permanent. I highly recommend that you consider biomedical treatment

and consult with a Defeat Autism Now! care provider who can hopefully

address the underlying physiological causes of your daughter's

condition. You can go to www.autism.com to find help. I'm not sure

where you live but tomorrow evening we are holding a free

informational class at my clinic in ton regarding some of the

causitive factors in ASD and possible recovery treatments.

Kindest Regards,

Dr. Tocco

www.vitalityhealth.info

>

> Hi All,

>

> I have an 11 yo dd who has recently (finally) been dx Aspergers.

Also, she is dx Generalized Anxiety and has some learning

disabilities. Since she started puberty, about a year-and-a-half ago,

she's developed many symptoms (which actually finally got us the AS

dx). One is increased aggression. The other symptoms are more on the

psychotic side. She has alternated between OCD symptoms, hearing

voices, and having visual hallucinations. Last night she thought her

sister wasn't really her sister, but that she was either possessed or

that she was a duplicate of her real sister with a different

personality. She's afraid to be on one floor of the house without

anyone else. She hears things I don't hear. She did this when she was

younger, before she was medicated for anxiety and before OT for

Sensory Integration Dysfunction. But she was leveled out until

adolescence. Since then she's been on Zoloft and Celexa, neither of

which helped. Both actually escalated the aggression and just shifted

the psychotic symtoms to another sphere. She's now been on Risperdol

for 4 weeks. After 3 weeks without incident, she committed one act of

premeditated aggression against her sister, one act of impulsive

aggression against her, and had a more vivid hallucination than ever

before, all within a 24 hour period. The psychiatrist upped the

Risperdol to twice a day a week ago, just after this stuff happened.

Anyone have any wisdom in this area? Is this a normal Asperger

adolescent thing?

>

> in KY

>

[Guest guest]

I'm no expert but I've done a lot of reading and I have never read

anywhere that hearing voices and hallucinations are symptoms of

Asperger syndrome. I hate to say this but it sounds more in the

realm of mental illness than autism. My son only takes meds for

hyperactivity/impulsivity so I can't address that. Is her doctor an

expert on mental illness?

>

> Hi All,

>

> I have an 11 yo dd who has recently (finally) been dx Aspergers.

Also, she is dx Generalized Anxiety and has some learning

disabilities. Since she started puberty, about a year-and-a-half ago,

she's developed many symptoms (which actually finally got us the AS

dx). One is increased aggression. The other symptoms are more on the

psychotic side. She has alternated between OCD symptoms, hearing

voices, and having visual hallucinations. Last night she thought her

sister wasn't really her sister, but that she was either possessed or

that she was a duplicate of her real sister with a different

personality. She's afraid to be on one floor of the house without

anyone else. She hears things I don't hear. She did this when she was

younger, before she was medicated for anxiety and before OT for

Sensory Integration Dysfunction. But she was leveled out until

adolescence. Since then she's been on Zoloft and Celexa, neither of

which helped. Both actually escalated the aggression and just shifted

the psychotic symtoms to another sphere. She's now been on Risperdol

for 4 weeks. After 3 weeks without incident, she committed one act of

premeditated aggression against her sister, one act of impulsive

aggression against her, and had a more vivid hallucination than ever

before, all within a 24 hour period. The psychiatrist upped the

Risperdol to twice a day a week ago, just after this stuff happened.

Anyone have any wisdom in this area? Is this a normal Asperger

adolescent thing?

>

> in KY

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

wow My duaghter that is 15 now has been doning the same things we tried many .... meds and still nothing , the risperal Id watch becuase it increase bleeding and lactaion it did with both my duaghters, man if you find something that help please pass the word my way and if do i will do the same. thanks Stacie please feel free to look at my info on my kids myspace.com/sanntownley

From: reneetoccodc <reneetoccodc@...>Subject: Re: hallucinations/psychotic symptomsAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 10:24 AM

Dear , I feel so sad when I hear stories like this. I want parents to know there are other options. Although medications are sometimes necessary, in this instance it seems obvious to me, as a DAN! physician, that the meds are not the answer for your daughter. It is well documented that pharmaceuticals, like the ones mentioned, can often actually CAUSE terrible symptoms such as hallucinations, psychosis, aggression, and most tragic of all, suicidal tendencies. You have options and I would recommend exhausting all of those options before accepting her increasing health conditions as permanent. I highly recommend that you consider biomedical treatment and consult with a Defeat Autism Now! care provider who can hopefully address the underlying physiological causes of your daughter's condition. You can go to www.autism.com to find help. I'm not sure where you live but tomorrow evening we

are holding a free informational class at my clinic in ton regarding some of the causitive factors in ASD and possible recovery treatments.Kindest Regards, Dr. Toccowww.vitalityhealth. info>> Hi All,> > I have an 11 yo dd who has recently (finally) been dx Aspergers. Also, she is dx Generalized Anxiety and has some learning disabilities. Since she started puberty, about a year-and-a-half ago, she's developed many symptoms (which actually finally got us the AS dx). One is increased aggression. The other symptoms are more on the psychotic side. She has alternated between OCD symptoms, hearing voices, and having visual hallucinations. Last night she thought her sister wasn't really her

sister, but that she was either possessed or that she was a duplicate of her real sister with a different personality. She's afraid to be on one floor of the house without anyone else. She hears things I don't hear. She did this when she was younger, before she was medicated for anxiety and before OT for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. But she was leveled out until adolescence. Since then she's been on Zoloft and Celexa, neither of which helped. Both actually escalated the aggression and just shifted the psychotic symtoms to another sphere. She's now been on Risperdol for 4 weeks. After 3 weeks without incident, she committed one act of premeditated aggression against her sister, one act of impulsive aggression against her, and had a more vivid hallucination than ever before, all within a 24 hour period. The psychiatrist upped the Risperdol to twice a day a week ago, just after this stuff happened.

Anyone have any wisdom in this area? Is this a normal Asperger adolescent thing?> > in KY>

[Guest guest]

I can tell you that before the asperger Dx came about for my son he was on

the wrong meds. He was seeing things and actually talked to his stuffy at

night who told him to either rest and sleep or to be very afraid. He then

tried to choke a neighbor boy, in which I took him of the very last med

added right before all of this started happening, switched his doctor,

changed meds with the doc's help and it was gone. I would think if these

things are going on I would look for a new doc, or make sure you are telling

the doc that these things are going on.

Tina

Re: hallucinations/psychotic symptoms

I'm no expert but I've done a lot of reading and I have never read

anywhere that hearing voices and hallucinations are symptoms of

Asperger syndrome. I hate to say this but it sounds more in the

realm of mental illness than autism. My son only takes meds for

hyperactivity/impulsivity so I can't address that. Is her doctor an

expert on mental illness?

>

> Hi All,

>

> I have an 11 yo dd who has recently (finally) been dx Aspergers.

Also, she is dx Generalized Anxiety and has some learning

disabilities. Since she started puberty, about a year-and-a-half ago,

she's developed many symptoms (which actually finally got us the AS

dx). One is increased aggression. The other symptoms are more on the

psychotic side. She has alternated between OCD symptoms, hearing

voices, and having visual hallucinations. Last night she thought her

sister wasn't really her sister, but that she was either possessed or

that she was a duplicate of her real sister with a different

personality. She's afraid to be on one floor of the house without

anyone else. She hears things I don't hear. She did this when she was

younger, before she was medicated for anxiety and before OT for

Sensory Integration Dysfunction. But she was leveled out until

adolescence. Since then she's been on Zoloft and Celexa, neither of

which helped. Both actually escalated the aggression and just shifted

the psychotic symtoms to another sphere. She's now been on Risperdol

for 4 weeks. After 3 weeks without incident, she committed one act of

premeditated aggression against her sister, one act of impulsive

aggression against her, and had a more vivid hallucination than ever

before, all within a 24 hour period. The psychiatrist upped the

Risperdol to twice a day a week ago, just after this stuff happened.

Anyone have any wisdom in this area? Is this a normal Asperger

adolescent thing?

>

> in KY

>

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My son had hallucinations that we narrowed down to a symptom of his inablility to break down the milk proten. Took the milk away, totally and it stopped. When he accidentally got cheese once, he hallucinated for 2 days. Debbie Gravois, , now 13. Corrected before he turned 4. Accidental ingestion at 5 or 6.

From: reneetoccodc <reneetoccodc>Subject: Re: hallucinations/ psychotic symptomsAutism and Aspergers TreatmentDate: Monday, January 12, 2009, 10:24 AM

Dear , I feel so sad when I hear stories like this. I want parents to know there are other options. Although medications are sometimes necessary, in this instance it seems obvious to me, as a DAN! physician, that the meds are not the answer for your daughter. It is well documented that pharmaceuticals, like the ones mentioned, can often actually CAUSE terrible symptoms such as hallucinations, psychosis, aggression, and most tragic of all, suicidal tendencies. You have options and I would recommend exhausting all of those options before accepting her increasing health conditions as permanent. I highly recommend that you consider biomedical treatment and consult with a Defeat Autism Now! care provider who can hopefully address the underlying physiological causes of your daughter's condition. You can go to www.autism.com to find help. I'm not sure where you live but tomorrow evening we

are holding a free informational class at my clinic in ton regarding some of the causitive factors in ASD and possible recovery treatments.Kindest Regards, Dr. Toccowww.vitalityhealth. info>> Hi All,> > I have an 11 yo dd who has recently (finally) been dx Aspergers. Also, she is dx Generalized Anxiety and has some learning disabilities. Since she started puberty, about a year-and-a-half ago, she's developed many symptoms (which actually finally got us the AS dx). One is increased aggression. The other symptoms are more on the psychotic side. She has alternated between OCD symptoms, hearing voices, and having visual hallucinations. Last night she thought her sister wasn't really her

sister, but that she was either possessed or that she was a duplicate of her real sister with a different personality. She's afraid to be on one floor of the house without anyone else. She hears things I don't hear. She did this when she was younger, before she was medicated for anxiety and before OT for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. But she was leveled out until adolescence. Since then she's been on Zoloft and Celexa, neither of which helped. Both actually escalated the aggression and just shifted the psychotic symtoms to another sphere. She's now been on Risperdol for 4 weeks. After 3 weeks without incident, she committed one act of premeditated aggression against her sister, one act of impulsive aggression against her, and had a more vivid hallucination than ever before, all within a 24 hour period. The psychiatrist upped the Risperdol to twice a day a week ago, just after this stuff happened.

Anyone have any wisdom in this area? Is this a normal Asperger adolescent thing?> > in KY>

[Guest guest]

To my knowledge (limited, though), your daughter’s

symptoms are not at all Asperger’s (hallucinations, voices, etc.).

If I may ask, on what basis did they diagnose her with

Aspergers?

Have you sought a second, third, fourth opinion? It seems

it would be warranted as both of your daughters seem at risk (w/ one daughter’s

aggressions). Also, how knowledgeable is the doctor on all of the meds being

prescribed--particularly for children? These meds are not to be taken lightly,

especially in a child’s case.

Joy

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From: julie w. <lynnbellealan@...>Subject: Re: hallucinations/psychotic symptomsAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 8:53 PM

I'm no expert but I've done a lot of reading and I have never read anywhere that hearing voices and hallucinations are symptoms of Asperger syndrome. I hate to say this but it sounds more in the realm of mental illness than autism. My son only takes meds for hyperactivity/ impulsivity so I can't address that. Is her doctor an expert on mental illness? >> Hi All,> > I have an 11 yo dd who has recently (finally) been dx Aspergers. Also, she is dx Generalized Anxiety and has some learning disabilities. Since she started puberty, about a year-and-a-half ago, she's developed many symptoms (which actually finally got us the AS dx). One is increased aggression. The other symptoms are more on the psychotic

side. She has alternated between OCD symptoms, hearing voices, and having visual hallucinations. Last night she thought her sister wasn't really her sister, but that she was either possessed or that she was a duplicate of her real sister with a different personality. She's afraid to be on one floor of the house without anyone else. She hears things I don't hear. She did this when she was younger, before she was medicated for anxiety and before OT for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. But she was leveled out until adolescence. Since then she's been on Zoloft and Celexa, neither of which helped. Both actually escalated the aggression and just shifted the psychotic symtoms to another sphere. She's now been on Risperdol for 4 weeks. After 3 weeks without incident, she committed one act of premeditated aggression against her sister, one act of impulsive aggression against her, and had a more vivid

hallucination than ever before, all within a 24 hour period. The psychiatrist upped the Risperdol to twice a day a week ago, just after this stuff happened. Anyone have any wisdom in this area? Is this a normal Asperger adolescent thing?> > in KY>

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I've never heard of this as part of Asbergers. It sounds more like paranoid schizophrenia. I'd have her evaluated by a specialist asap. Marilyn>> Hi All,> > I have an 11 yo dd who has recently (finally) been dx Aspergers. Also, she is dx Generalized Anxiety and has some learning disabilities. Since she started puberty, about a year-and-a-half ago, she's developed many symptoms (which actually finally got

us the AS dx). One is increased aggression. The other symptoms are more on the psychotic

side. She has alternated between OCD symptoms, hearing voices, and having visual hallucinations. Last night she thought her sister wasn't really her sister, but that she was either possessed or that she was a duplicate of her real sister with a different personality. She's afraid to be on one floor of the house without anyone else. She hears things I don't hear. She did this when she was younger, before she was medicated for anxiety and before OT for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. But she was leveled out until adolescence. Since then she's been on Zoloft and Celexa, neither of which helped. Both actually escalated the aggression and just shifted the psychotic symtoms to another sphere. She's now been on Risperdol for 4 weeks. After 3 weeks without incident, she committed one act of premeditated aggression against her sister, one act of impulsive aggression against her, and had a more vivid

hallucination than ever before, all within a 24 hour period. The psychiatrist upped the Risperdol to twice a day a week ago, just after this stuff happened. Anyone have any wisdom in this area? Is this a normal Asperger adolescent thing?>