Re: Butting In WAS: anti-cure

[Guest guest]

> For this, NTs expect me to be 'open'? I hardly think it's worth my

> time to devote even one second of my time to these sorts of useless

> interactions that are cherished by so many other people.

It's a very limited degree that I'm willing to act to the expectations

of others. I realize that I guard myself when I'm in public, and I

realize that I appear to be sending a " back off " message, but I'm not.

That's not my intent. I carry myself in the way that comes naturally

to me. I interact in the way that comes naturally to me. I'm not

willing to play a part for the comfort of others, not even if it means

they might better accept me, because my few true friends stuck around

even though I appeared closed. I reach out in my own way, so if others

judge it, they won't make good friends for me anyway.

sara

mother anarchy http://motheranarchy.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

Neither of you are going to have to worry about this much longer.

Even as we speak, I have a number of autistic scientists in my

employ.

They are trying to isolate the non-autistic genome.

Once discovered, we can then abort non-autistics before they are

born and rid the earth of this terrible scourge of non-autistics.

For those non-autistics who are already alive, it is hoped that,

through this genetic research, we can develop a cure for them.

As our scientific methods become more precise, we are successfully

able to diagnose more and more of these non-autistics.

They can run, but they can't hide.

Cross your fingers.

We are on the verge of great progress.

Tom

Administrator

> For this, NTs expect me to be 'open'? I hardly think it's worth

my time to devote even one second of my time to these sorts of

useless interactions that are cherished by so many other people.

It's a very limited degree that I'm willing to act to the

expectations of others. I realize that I guard myself when I'm in

public, and I realize that I appear to be sending a " back off "

message, but I'm not.

That's not my intent. I carry myself in the way that comes naturally

to me. I interact in the way that comes naturally to me. I'm not

willing to play a part for the comfort of others, not even if it

means they might better accept me, because my few true friends stuck

around even though I appeared closed. I reach out in my own way, so

if others judge it, they won't make good friends for me anyway.

sara

mother anarchy http://motheranarchy.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

" When I was in high school, I had no use for endless discussions in

the ladies' washroom on the hidden meaning to wearing purple eye

shadow instead of blue eye shadow or whether I thought such-and-such

a boy was wearing his Valente's too small or whether I

thought Mr. so-and-so, the English Lit teacher was totally groddy to

the max. "

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, I did not avail myself of the opportunity to learn

the hidden meanings of such things and to this day -- while still

abhorring purple eye shadow but for reasons of my own -- I have no

idea what was being discussed back then. You know what I mean,

eh? :-)

Raven

>

> " When I was in high school, I had no use for endless discussions in

> the ladies' washroom on the hidden meaning to wearing purple eye

> shadow instead of blue eye shadow or whether I thought such-and-

such

> a boy was wearing his Valente's too small or whether I

> thought Mr. so-and-so, the English Lit teacher was totally groddy

to

> the max. "

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , environmental1st2003

>

> They can run, but they can't hide.

>

>Will it be like Invasion of the Body Snatchers where the non-taken-

over people had to not show emotion to hide the fact that they were

still human? The non-Autistics will have to appear serious and deep

and concerned about important things but if they give themselves away

by appearing too emotional or social about something superficial,

they'll be nabbed?

[Guest guest]

Silly, purple is for brown or green eyed people and blue is for blue-

eyed people. Oh my god, like--I'm so sure. I CAN'T believe you don't

know that! No wait, blue shouldn't be worn with blue eyes because

there's no contrast. Umm, it needs to match what you're wearing?

Purple is more fun? Brown eyed people wear it when they're sad

because 'don't it make my brown eyes blue?'

>

> " When I was in high school, I had no use for endless discussions in

> the ladies' washroom on the hidden meaning to wearing purple eye

> shadow instead of blue eye shadow or whether I thought such-and-such

> a boy was wearing his Valente's too small or whether I

> thought Mr. so-and-so, the English Lit teacher was totally groddy to

> the max. "

>

[Guest guest]

If the seed-pods I'm developing can be distributed effectively, this

will be a non-issue.

Tom

Administrator

> They can run, but they can't hide.

>

>Will it be like Invasion of the Body Snatchers where the non-taken-

over people had to not show emotion to hide the fact that they were

still human? The non-Autistics will have to appear serious and deep

and concerned about important things but if they give themselves away

by appearing too emotional or social about something superficial,

they'll be nabbed?

[Guest guest]

Ohhh...Well, then, carry on.

>

> > They can run, but they can't hide.

> >

> >Will it be like Invasion of the Body Snatchers where the non-taken-

> over people had to not show emotion to hide the fact that they were

> still human? The non-Autistics will have to appear serious and deep

> and concerned about important things but if they give themselves

away

> by appearing too emotional or social about something superficial,

> they'll be nabbed?

>

[Guest guest]

Raven was not assaulting you Toni. She was responding to your post.

Remember please that this is an Aspie board. You are not Aspie. But

you are here by my good grace.

Raven and I and others are Aspies and we are just expressing our

opinions. On the Family Forum, if Raven had behaved that way, you

would have good grounds to call her on it. And I would back you up.

Tom

Administrator

Thats what I get for trying to be helpful!

[Guest guest]

Raven was not assaulting you Toni. She was responding to your post.

Remember please that this is an Aspie board. You are not Aspie. But

you are here by my good grace.

Raven and I and others are Aspies and we are just expressing our

opinions. On the Family Forum, if Raven had behaved that way, you

would have good grounds to call her on it. And I would back you up.

Tom

Administrator

Thats what I get for trying to be helpful!

[Guest guest]

Raven was not assaulting you Toni. She was responding to your post.

Remember please that this is an Aspie board. You are not Aspie. But

you are here by my good grace.

Raven and I and others are Aspies and we are just expressing our

opinions. On the Family Forum, if Raven had behaved that way, you

would have good grounds to call her on it. And I would back you up.

Tom

Administrator

Thats what I get for trying to be helpful!

[Guest guest]

Well in my case thats exactly what NT's are doing to me, seeing me as

a person with a MH label and a few more of their own and not giving a

stuff about the person I am which is a much nicer and more sincere one

than they are.

Im Kate2 from the bullying list by the way who's life is being made

pretty difficult by bullying from non-autistics.

Kate2

In , Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote:

Why not see the person for who they are and

> not some label?

[Guest guest]

Well in my case thats exactly what NT's are doing to me, seeing me as

a person with a MH label and a few more of their own and not giving a

stuff about the person I am which is a much nicer and more sincere one

than they are.

Im Kate2 from the bullying list by the way who's life is being made

pretty difficult by bullying from non-autistics.

Kate2

In , Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote:

Why not see the person for who they are and

> not some label?

[Guest guest]

Well in my case thats exactly what NT's are doing to me, seeing me as

a person with a MH label and a few more of their own and not giving a

stuff about the person I am which is a much nicer and more sincere one

than they are.

Im Kate2 from the bullying list by the way who's life is being made

pretty difficult by bullying from non-autistics.

Kate2

In , Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote:

Why not see the person for who they are and

> not some label?

[Guest guest]

---point taken. I will not post on this'aspie' board anymore. So

much for trying to 'understand' other people like my kids. Thanks

for the good

grace...

In , environmental1st2003

<no_reply@...> wrote:

>

> Raven was not assaulting you Toni. She was responding to your post.

>

> Remember please that this is an Aspie board. You are not Aspie.

But

> you are here by my good grace.

>

> Raven and I and others are Aspies and we are just expressing our

> opinions. On the Family Forum, if Raven had behaved that way, you

> would have good grounds to call her on it. And I would back you up.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

>

>

>

> Thats what I get for trying to be helpful!

>

[Guest guest]

---I wanted to email you in private but don't know your email

address. If i have come across as judgemental, bitter,

unaccepting,self-righteous or any other unGodly traits, please

forgive me. God knows my heart and motives in my reply to you and I

am ok with that. I wish you nothing but the best in all that you

venture to do. Thanks again for allowing me to spend some time here.

God Bless.

Toni

In , environmental1st2003

<no_reply@...> wrote:

>

> When you get over your bitterness, I would encourage you to take a

> look at what people posted in response to your advice to me. And

why.

>

> I, Raven and Kate and a couple of others expressed their own

opinions

> regarding social conventions. The reason we used sarcasm, irony,

and

> bitterness is because even YOU, who are trying to learn more about

> your AS kids, are (unknowingly) self-rightreous in thinking that

it's

> OUR FAULT that non-Aspies cannot accept us.

>

> In reality, IN THE BEGINNING, there were no social conventions or

> forms of ettiquette.

>

> The only social order that was established was the family unit,

and,

> if you believe in God, Mosaic and Biblical law.

>

> But even for Christians, the rule of social order that took

precedence

> is simple and straightforward: Majority rules. And the crowd that

> makes the most noise gets what it wants.

>

> We live in a world where, if you are part of the noisiest and

obnoxios

> mob you are safe. This mob can be composed of some of the most

vile

> people on earth and/or the most innocent and meek...

>

> It doesn't matter WHO is the mob. So long as it's the majority, it

can

> be ever-shifting, but if you are in it, you are safe.

>

> And anyone who is not in the mob is not, because they are rejects.

>

> Thus those of us who do not fit in with whatever social whims are

> current are constantly made to dance around and perform as if we

are

> on strings. It's VERY humiliating.

>

> You want to understand us? Then see us like PEOPLE?

>

> I wanted you to explain why it is I am not approachable.

>

> First explain the why the unstable, random, arbitrary and

whimsical

> behavior of non-Aspies who make the rules everyone, including you,

> should be the people we steadfastly adhere, because in my book

they

> cannot seem to make up their minds what's " in " and what's " out "

from

> one day to the next.

>

> Next, don't tell ME I'm the cause of rejection because I cannot

fold

> my arms properly, or because I frown.

>

> Instead, tell me what idiot concieved the idea that arm-folding or

a

> frown should be the basis by which people can accept or reject an

> entrire human being. Explain to me why the idiocy of following

such an

> moron constitutes sane social behavior.

>

> Then I and others here will see the logic in this sheer idiocy and

be

> less inclined to respond with sarcasm. We might even start folding

our

> arms and grinning like a maniac all the time to be socially

accepted.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

>

>

>

>

> ---point taken. I will not post on this'aspie' board anymore. So

> much for trying to 'understand' other people like my kids. Thanks

> for the good

> grace...

>