Re: exercising with rebounder

May 19, 2004

Hi Corny. Sorry to take so long to respond. Just a little overwhelmed

with schedule. I don't think that a rebounder is well rounded for

exercise either. I like to walk and like to get that full range of

motion that you talked about.

But, once again, here is a situation where a rebounder should not be

compared on an even level with other exercise machines, because a

rebounder is in reality a lymphasizer. And can be used by people who

cannot exercise. A gentle bounce without the heels even leaving the mat

does amazing things.

In kindness I would like to say that your last sentence, " great for

lymph flow but does little for the rest of the body " is just wrong. It

is an opinion based on lack of knowledge. Not being unkind here. Just

being factual. Rebounding is the only thing that gives every single

cell in the body, from brains to bones to nerves, etc, an aerobic flex

with each bounce. This does alot of things. I strengthens each and

every cell. It pushes toxins out and helps nutrients come in. It

increase oxygen to each cell.

Rebounding also strengthens the bones of the body like nothing else.

And it tones you all over. One cell at a time.

It also balances right and left brain and so it is magnificent for brain

damage. Helps with speach impediments and learning disabilities and more.

It also balances sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems when

they are out of wack.

It also causes collateral growth of veins, which is ahuge help for those

who have had clots, etc.

It triples the white cell count with just 1-2 minutes of a gentle

bounce, which lasts for one hour. So two minutes of gentle bouncing

once every hour is considered a serious cancer treatment.

By moving the lymph it enables more oxygen to come in and mix with

glucose and creat atp and energy levels go up and body repair goes up.

Many people with serous lower back pain find it leaves in less than a

week with gentle bouncing.

Right now I am so fatigued from sleep depravation from caring for my dad

that this is all I can easily remember off the top of my head. If you

want more info you can go to http://www.excellentthings.com and click on

NEEDAK rebounder and follow the links and read up.

The list of benefits from rebounding that you won't get on a Nordic

track or Chuck Norris unit are vast and varying. It is not about

exercise. It is a unique health building unit, that when used gently,

can do remarkable things. In fact, Dr. West says if you are exercising

on a rebounder you are missing the point and not lymphasizing and

actually tearing yourself down. Lymphasizing and exercising are two

very different realities.

With great fatigue and kindness

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

signing off till tomorrow

ragnar redbeard wrote:

>I am sure that a rebounder is a very positive experience since so many have

recommended them, and I have bounced on a few. Lymphatics movement is obviously

very important. However, I think rebounders have limitations. Effective

exercise, in my view, should afford full range of motion of all the muscles and

joints. This is important for maintaining integrity and strength of these

systems. We need to put our arms, legs and torso thru as much range of motion

as possible. This range of motion, especially under resistance, maintains the

optimum function of muscles and joints. And, of course, the lymphatic system is

also stimulated. Also, many more calories are burned for those in need of

weight reduction.

>

>Bouncing on a rebounder is one dimensional. Great for lymph flow, but does

little for the rest of the body.

>

>Corny

>

May 24, 2004

>> What am I missing here? <<

Corny, I think what you may be missing is the inertial effects available

with the rebounder, with much of the shock on the body that would

otherwise be involved, being taken up by the springs on the rebounder,

and especially by the *soft bounce* rebounder. I have both cheapo regular

and Needak Soft Bounce rebounders and after experiencing the latter,

the former is sort of like jumping on concrete.

I think the inertial effects of bouncing as well as muscular movements

pump the lymph through the " one-way valve " lymph system of the body.

And I can tell you that rebounding is a heck of a lot easier than, say,

jumping rope on the ground.

And maybe even more effective for moving lymph?

Green

exercising with rebounder

Donna

thanks for your input about the rebounder. I can accept that all these great

things that you have described are happening when rebounding. However,

rebounding is still just exercising; that is, moving the body for therapeutic

effect. All of these same effects should be occurring when doing a variety of

movements. In fact, the more intense the movement, the more positive effect

there should be. I understand that rebounding is a gentle way to move the

lymph. But how, for instance, is it superior to simply doing toe raises combined

with partial knee bends. These movements can be done by anyone capable of

bouncing on a mini tramp. You are using the " springs " in your muscles vs the

springs in the tramp, with the bonus of at least a partial range of motion in

the legs. What am I missing here?

Corny

May 24, 2004

Re: exercising with rebounder

> >> What am I missing here? <<

>

> Corny, I think what you may be missing is the inertial effects available

> with the rebounder, with much of the shock on the body that would

> otherwise be involved, being taken up by the springs on the rebounder,

> and especially by the *soft bounce* rebounder. I have both cheapo regular

> and Needak Soft Bounce rebounders and after experiencing the latter,

> the former is sort of like jumping on concrete.

>

> I think the inertial effects of bouncing as well as muscular movements

> pump the lymph through the " one-way valve " lymph system of the body.

>

> And I can tell you that rebounding is a heck of a lot easier than, say,

> jumping rope on the ground.

>

> And maybe even more effective for moving lymph?

>

> Green

Hi Green.

I agree with you that the soft rebounders are great for moving lymph. I met

Hall, the inventor of the Needak and later the Cellerciser, at a health

expo and was very impressed with his integrity, energy and intelligence. This is

from his website:

http://www.cellercise.com/ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.pl?usr=51F5314025 & rnd=8316345 & rrc\

=N & affl= & cip=216.179.3.180 & act= & aff= & pg=WhyCellercise

******

Don't Exercise, Cellercise! Cellercise flexes ALL 75 TRILLION CELLS at the same

time! Even better, it requires only 10 minutes a day!

Cellercise is Dave Hall's unique form of exercise that applies weight and

movement to every cell causing the entire body, it's parts and functions to

become stronger, more flexible and healthier. It works because all body parts

and functions are made up of cells.

Cellercise is a weight bearing exercise without the jarring and damage of most

impact aerobic activities. Cellercise uses vertical movement like weight

lifting, push-ups, pulls-ups or sit-ups in a repetitive up and down motion.

However, these conventional forms of exercise target and isolate specific

muscles or muscle groups. It's very time consuming and often tears down the body

to build it up.

When weight or stress is applied to a muscle, it applies weight or pressure

against the cell membrane. Cells increase the amount of protein in their

membrane to avoid rupture. As we Cellercise® the cells get bigger and stronger.

The movement creates momentum. Acceleration and deceleration create pressure

changes within the body and an increased amount of weight against the cell

membrane. At the bottom of the bounce, every cell in the body is stimulated,

exercised and strengthened. Cellercise exercises more than just muscles. Every

cell is exercised, including internal organs, veins, capillaries, bones,

connective tissue and skin. They are toned, cleansed and strengthened.

******

(Nenah again) When I use my Needak for 30 minutes or more, I distinctly notice

more muscle tone the next day.

Best,

Nenah

May 24, 2004

Hi Corny. Yes, you are missing something. Smile. Rebounding has a G

force to it that you don't get from any other exercise. It is that G

force that moves the lymph like no other exercise. It is also that g

force that causes every single cell in your body to flex. Not possible

with jumping on bed our jumping rope. It just isn't the same. Also,

you get remarkable bang for your buck with stress to joints. Rebounding

restores joints, unlike other repetitive movements like jumping jacks

that are hard on the joints and the feet. The mat takes the pressure

when rebounding. When doing jumping jacks your feet and knees and hips

take the pressure. It is just totally different.

Studies have shown that exercising reduces immune system function.

Rebounding does the opposite, unles syou over do it, then you are

exercising and you will reduce immune function. 2 minutes on the

rebound triples white cell count. 40 minutes on the rebounder reduces

white cell count. This is why some people have used rebounding to

eliminate cancer from their system. No one would recommend a nordic

track to remove cancer form your system, but a number of people

recommend rebounding to do so.

If you go http://www.excellentthings.com and click on NEEDAK and then

click on thelink at the bottom of the page you will find more info.

One testimony I heard was of a woman who had, had paralysis in one leg

since she was a child. She was in her sixties and she had no feeling in

one foot and could not put her heel down. She had tried many things to

help herself and had been told by the docs that she would only get worse

as each year passed. She got a rebounder, and followed Dr. Wests

techniques of lymphasizing instead of exercising and in less than a year

she had feeling in her foot and could put her heel down and walk

normally. He docs were then shocked.

There there was the baby that fell into the open septic tank and wasn't

retrieved for about 11 minutes. (long story) The mother grabbed filthy

lifeless body and began lymphatic massage and they rushed to the

hospital. Miraculously the baby revived, but the bad news was that it

was blind and brain dead. The parents took the baby home and bounced it

on the rebounder, gently of course, non stop - 24 hrs a day - for days.

I believe it was about 5 days later, the big sister (about 10) was

gently bouncing the baby boy and suddenly noticed that his eyes seem to

be tracking shadows on the ceiling. She rushed outside yelling to the

parents that she thought the baby could see. They took the baby to the

hospital and the doctors checked and said it couldn't possibly be the

same baby. It was perfect in every way. Perfect sight, no neuro

problems at all.

Entire books have been written on the amazing benefits of moving the

lymph and in particular, of using a rebounder to do so. Much more info

than I can relate here. The bottom line is that seemiingly miraculous

things can happen when a rebounder is used as a lymphasizer.

And the side benefit is that you tone up like crazy. the amount of tone

you get with such little effort is really pretty cool.

Rebounding is unique in it's benefits. Which cannot be duplicated with

any other exercise machine or workout movement.

Blessings

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

ragnar redbeard wrote:

>Donna

>thanks for your input about the rebounder. I can accept that all these great