Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Dennis wrote on 5/17/2004, 7:36 AM: > From: " Dennis " <dlipter@...> > Subject: Re: Re: ConcenTrace® Trace Mineral Drops > > Tried Fulvic Minerals in the footbath tonight. > > Didn't work! > > Dennis Wow Dennis. I've been waiting with baited-breath for your results with the Fulvic Acid Minerals. I felt great on them the first couple of days, but then I suddenly crashed and felt I should dramatically cut back my intake. Could it have been a herx reaction of some sort? I don't know, but it just didn't feel quite right. I feared the Fulvic Acid after that. Since then, I've reasearched Glyconutrients (and I'm quite impressed with those - has anyone had any experience with them?), considered Concentrace, and have been trying to figure out which product would be the best way to go. You just helped me with that and I thank you. I've had a gut-level feeling there are some missing link(s) to optimum health and I won't stop until I find all of them (I'm certain h202/oxygen/ozone are in that category). For those of you with experience taking the Fulvic Acid Minerals, please take a look at the following negative report and offer your thoughts. This, along with my strange crash on the product, has given me considerable pause. Thanks. *********** http://www.pathguy.com/altermed.htm Fulvic Acid This is presently being promoted as a cure for tumors, as part of a " colloidal mineral " regimen. This is an obvious fraud and differs from most of the others because fulvic acid is not just a harmless placebo. Readers should know that As of October 2001, there is exactly nothing published in the mainstream medical literature on fulvic acid having any therapeutic effects. The few citations come from obscure third-world publications which often promote cheap local remedies; I have concluded that the data in most such articles are simply made up. Fulvic acid is a fungal poison and free-radical generator which is considered, by people who actually study this sort of thing, as contributing to the epidemic of mutilating arthritis in central Asia (Cell & Tiss. Res. 297: 141, 1999; many others.) The major website promoting fulvic acid, which I'll let you find on your own, is a mass of obvious, preposterous untruths which are intended to sound like actual scientific statements to people who don't know any real biology. For example, " The DNA of every living or extinct species of organism on Earth, whether plant, animal, or microbe, has eventually become a highly refined component of fulvic acid. " " Fulvic acid contains literally hundreds of complex minerals which include traces of virtually every element listed in the periodic table. " Although they claim that " medical and agricultural research continues to conclusively point to one fact, fulvic acid holds the keys to healing and preventing the world's diseases " , the only major paper which they cite (Science 275: 1541, 1997) has nothing to do with fulvic acid and the writers have grossly misrepresented its contents and conclusions. The statement that coal miners are protected from tuberculosis is a bald-faced lie; historically tuberculosis was a major component of " black lung " . The writers claim that one pharmaceutical company has patented a humic substance to remove HIV from blood, but doesn't give a name or any way for the reader to confirm this. And so forth. I predict (October 2001) there will be successful criminal and/or civil actions against the people who are selling fulvic acid as a nutritional supplement. Someone should go to prison for this. -- Jodi Waldman Menard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Pathguy is a skeptical sort of guy so this doesn't completely deter me. Were the fulvic acid minerals used by Dennis the Vital Earth type? J. http://www.pathguy.com/altermed.htm Fulvic Acid This is presently being promoted as a cure for tumors, as part of a " colloidal mineral " regimen. This is an obvious fraud and differs from most of the others because fulvic acid is not just a harmless placebo. Readers should know that As of October 2001, there is exactly nothing published in the mainstream medical literature on fulvic acid having any therapeutic effects. The few citations come from obscure third-world publications which often promote cheap local remedies; I have concluded that the data in most such articles are simply made up. Fulvic acid is a fungal poison and free-radical generator which is considered, by people who actually study this sort of thing, as contributing to the epidemic of mutilating arthritis in central Asia (Cell & Tiss. Res. 297: 141, 1999; many others.) The major website promoting fulvic acid, which I'll let you find on your own, is a mass of obvious, preposterous untruths which are intended to sound like actual scientific statements to people who don't know any real biology. For example, " The DNA of every living or extinct species of organism on Earth, whether plant, animal, or microbe, has eventually become a highly refined component of fulvic acid. " " Fulvic acid contains literally hundreds of complex minerals which include traces of virtually every element listed in the periodic table. " Although they claim that " medical and agricultural research continues to conclusively point to one fact, fulvic acid holds the keys to healing and preventing the world's diseases " , the only major paper which they cite (Science 275: 1541, 1997) has nothing to do with fulvic acid and the writers have grossly misrepresented its contents and conclusions. The statement that coal miners are protected from tuberculosis is a bald-faced lie; historically tuberculosis was a major component of " black lung " . The writers claim that one pharmaceutical company has patented a humic substance to remove HIV from blood, but doesn't give a name or any way for the reader to confirm this. And so forth. I predict (October 2001) there will be successful criminal and/or civil actions against the people who are selling fulvic acid as a nutritional supplement. Someone should go to prison for this. -- Jodi Waldman Menard OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Yes...Vital Earth All I am reporting is that the Vital Earth minerals didn't conduct electricity as well as ConcenTrace. Draw your own conclusions. Dennis RE: Re: Fulvic Acid Minerals & Dennis's Test > Pathguy is a skeptical sort of guy so this doesn't completely deter me. > Were the fulvic acid minerals used by Dennis the Vital Earth type? J. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Pathguy could actually be right. I corresponded with him some back in the days when the Internet was a novelty and I found the small amount of alternative medicine info there was largely on Alta Vista. Ed wasn't slanted much towards holistic medicine. It was easy to refind info. in those days as there were only a few pages of entries! I was interested in the fact that the ConcenTrace seemed to work well electrically. I have some liquid minerals by Tropical Oasis but haven't tried ConcenTrace as yet. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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