Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Posted July 28, 2006 I'm sorry if I've posted this too many times. I'm trying to post a new message and it's getting attached to older groups of messages. Thanks for being patient: Hi Everyone, My name is , 29 yrs old. My 10-yr-old daughter was diagnosed with OCD this June. I wanted to say thank you for this group, of giving and sharing so much. I, like alot of you, feel like I have limited places to turn to for support. I can identify with alot of symptoms I read about; I have mild OCD myself. I knew I did as a teenager, from reading about it. I put it out of my mind then, because I did not want to be labeled. In the worst of times, I vowed to live for the future, on the small hope that it would be better. I've had a tumultuous time growing up and was known to my immediate family to be a hellcat. I rather think of it as a warrior. Even now, I am slightly resistant to our therapists homework she gives me to help me deal with my own OCD behavior. My behavior doesn't impede my functioning much, but does cause me distress and anxiety. I value being independent and self-reliant. I am both proud of myself and baffled. I became untrusting of others mostly because I felt I could not turn to my parents AT ALL. They made alot of mistakes and caused alot of damage. I watched one of my brothers slowly break down and was finally diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was REALLY bad off and I was so angry and frustrated with my parents. I could not believe that they would deny reality or ignore or not understand what was happening or even try. I have since developed understanding and forgiveness for them and myself. They still go 'round and 'round today and I can see so clearly that if my mom would develop understanding, her reactions would be so much better. I suppose its easier to play a victim instead of becoming empowered with knowledge and skill. My oldest brother is probably what did them in or wore out their coping capacity in the first place. He was severe ADHD (this was about 25 yrs ago). Both of these brothers have spent time institutionalized. My youngest brother has Major Depression and it is hard to watch him go from a stellar student and bright thinker to practially incapacitated at times. My mom just reminded me that about 10 people on my dad's side of the family have commited suicide. Nature v/s nurture (genetics v/s environment)-- I sure thought about that alot!! When my daughter was diagnosed I started reading like a maniac-- it was then that I realized how much I was doing that I knew was odd or distress-causing over the years and I didn't understand why. As I became an adult, some of the compulsions changed from the classic stuff most people associate with OCD. Its so clear now, I could just cry. It makes me sad, for myself and for her. Education is enlightening, facing the pain and healing. This whole thing is creating healing opportunites for both of us. I rather look at it that way than a terrible disaster that has the capacity for crippling us for some senseless needless reason. I have been a nurse in the ER for 4-5 years. I have compassion for the mentally distressed and ones in crisis (or percieved crisis). I was pretty good at turning situations around that some other staff would have made worse, or gotten mad about (thereby upsetting themselves-- which is just as unproductive). There are so many people who are negatively judgemental or unconcerned. I've been blasted by both sides of my family for my daughter's behavior but I know in my heart that I have done the best possible job I could ever do. I believe she would be much worse if I was not understanding and open with her. What I didn't utilize to capacity was that I could use the same communication skills and verbal martial arts with her that I use in the world. LET ME TELL YOU-- it works so well!! To contain negative energy, mirror it back, use humor-- all in a non-sarcastic or non- negative way is fantastic. Super-parenting is what it is. Not only do I do " normal " parenting skills like setting limits, helping her develop positive emotions, having boundaries, but I've had to develop further near-buddha techniques to avert the negative assaults. Our kids are people too and are subject to the same universal laws that we all operate under. I smiled when she said last night " Mom, you're using psychology on me again, why can't you be normal. " But she is laughing, and THAT IS THE POINT. What normally would have been a total melt-down and crisis had an entirely different outcome. I feel like I'm tap dancing in a fire sometimes. Some of the stuff she says is flooring, some of it hilarious and some of it makes me question why I'm on this earth. At least we have one thing in common-- OCD, an instant connection and source of support, hopefully more and more as she grows. Thank you for listening and thank you again for sharing and giving of yourselves. Quote
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Posted July 28, 2006 andrea - sorry for all your family has been through but boy oh boy is your daughter in the right place! keep up the good work - both of you!!!! Eileen Quoting anjmar333 <amarinonii@...>: > I'm sorry if I've posted this too many times. I'm trying to post a > new message and it's getting attached to older groups of messages. > Thanks for being patient: > Hi Everyone, My name is , 29 yrs old. My 10-yr-old daughter > was diagnosed with OCD this June. I wanted to say thank you for this > group, of giving and sharing so much. I, like alot of you, feel like > I have limited places to turn to for support. I can identify with > alot of symptoms I read about; I have mild OCD myself. I knew I did > as a teenager, from reading about it. I put it out of my mind then, > because I did not want to be labeled. In the worst of times, I vowed > to live for the future, on the small hope that it would be better. > I've had a tumultuous time growing up and was known to my immediate > family to be a hellcat. I rather think of it as a warrior. Even now, > I am slightly resistant to our therapists homework she gives me to > help me deal with my own OCD behavior. My behavior doesn't impede my > functioning much, but does cause me distress and anxiety. I value > being independent and self-reliant. I am both proud of myself and > baffled. I became untrusting of others mostly because I felt I could > not turn to my parents AT ALL. They made alot of mistakes and caused > alot of damage. I watched one of my brothers slowly break down and > was finally diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was REALLY bad off and > I was so angry and frustrated with my parents. I could not believe > that they would deny reality or ignore or not understand what was > happening or even try. I have since developed understanding and > forgiveness for them and myself. They still go 'round and 'round > today and I can see so clearly that if my mom would develop > understanding, her reactions would be so much better. I suppose its > easier to play a victim instead of becoming empowered with knowledge > and skill. My oldest brother is probably what did them in or wore > out their coping capacity in the first place. He was severe ADHD > (this was about 25 yrs ago). Both of these brothers have spent time > institutionalized. My youngest brother has Major Depression and it > is hard to watch him go from a stellar student and bright thinker to > practially incapacitated at times. My mom just reminded me that > about 10 people on my dad's side of the family have commited > suicide. Nature v/s nurture (genetics v/s environment)-- I sure > thought about that alot!! When my daughter was diagnosed I started > reading like a maniac-- it was then that I realized how much I was > doing that I knew was odd or distress-causing over the years and I > didn't understand why. As I became an adult, some of the compulsions > changed from the classic stuff most people associate with OCD. Its > so clear now, I could just cry. It makes me sad, for myself and for > her. Education is enlightening, facing the pain and healing. This > whole thing is creating healing opportunites for both of us. I > rather look at it that way than a terrible disaster that has the > capacity for crippling us for some senseless needless reason. I have > been a nurse in the ER for 4-5 years. I have compassion for the > mentally distressed and ones in crisis (or percieved crisis). I was > pretty good at turning situations around that some other staff would > have made worse, or gotten mad about (thereby upsetting themselves-- > which is just as unproductive). There are so many people who are > negatively judgemental or unconcerned. I've been blasted by both > sides of my family for my daughter's behavior but I know in my heart > that I have done the best possible job I could ever do. I believe > she would be much worse if I was not understanding and open with > her. What I didn't utilize to capacity was that I could use the same > communication skills and verbal martial arts with her that I use in > the world. LET ME TELL YOU-- it works so well!! To contain negative > energy, mirror it back, use humor-- all in a non-sarcastic or non- > negative way is fantastic. Super-parenting is what it is. Not only > do I do " normal " parenting skills like setting limits, helping her > develop positive emotions, having boundaries, but I've had to > develop further near-buddha techniques to avert the negative > assaults. Our kids are people too and are subject to the same > universal laws that we all operate under. I smiled when she said > last night " Mom, you're using psychology on me again, why can't you > be normal. " But she is laughing, and THAT IS THE POINT. What > normally would have been a total melt-down and crisis had an > entirely different outcome. I feel like I'm tap dancing in a fire > sometimes. Some of the stuff she says is flooring, some of it > hilarious and some of it makes me question why I'm on this earth. At > least we have one thing in common-- OCD, an instant connection and > source of support, hopefully more and more as she grows. Thank you > for listening and thank you again for sharing and giving of > yourselves. > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Posted July 28, 2006 Hi , I'm single mom, 3 sons - oldest 21 and then twins age 17 (not identical). , a twin, has diagnoses of OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers Syndrome (very mild!). 's OCD began around age 11.5, right after he began 6th grade. He had those OCD " tendencies " before that, but no real " disorder, " so to speak. Then in 6th grade it was like he began having 24/7 compulsions/rituals non-stop! His involved a lot of touching, some repetitive things, some mental compulsions too I think (from watching his face). Anyway, middle school was rough, especially that first year of OCD, but things have been much better these past 2-3 years. However, this year he began having bad thoughts and dealing with religious/scrupulosity type OCD. SIGH! Is your daughter's OCD more the " thought " type or rituals or...? Sounds like you two have good support for each other! This group was such a welcome place to come during that first year and all the years since! It's nice to have somewhere to go where others really understand OCD! > > I'm sorry if I've posted this too many times. I'm trying to post a > new message and it's getting attached to older groups of messages. > Thanks for being patient: > Hi Everyone, My name is , 29 yrs old. My 10-yr-old daughter > was diagnosed with OCD this June. I wanted to say thank you for this > group, of giving and sharing so much. I, like alot of you, feel like Quote
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Posted July 29, 2006 Thanks , for sharing the experiences and challanges of your family and yourself. My 12 year old daughter has OCD and is prone to angry outbursts when things aren't " just so " . Your comments about being blasted by your family really rings true. And it's also difficult to be around other adult friends/families when she has an issue - it's so unpredictable, yet we can't stop living for fear of an outburst at the wrong time. I've decided to stop explaining to people about her OCD, since so many think it's just a matter of discipline. I can't change their minds. Unfortunately, it has really shrunken our social circle and that bothers me a lot. I feel so isolated and this is when I need other people the most. My husband and I spend so much time discussing and stratagizing how to deal with her, that we can't provide the relief we need to each other. How do other parents maintain sanity and social connections despite the " handicap " of their childs problems? " autumn71A@... " <autumn71A@...> wrote: andrea - sorry for all your family has been through but boy oh boy is your daughter in the right place! keep up the good work - both of you!!!! Eileen Quoting anjmar333 <amarinonii@...>: > I'm sorry if I've posted this too many times. I'm trying to post a > new message and it's getting attached to older groups of messages. > Thanks for being patient: > Hi Everyone, My name is , 29 yrs old. My 10-yr-old daughter > was diagnosed with OCD this June. I wanted to say thank you for this > group, of giving and sharing so much. I, like alot of you, feel like > I have limited places to turn to for support. I can identify with > alot of symptoms I read about; I have mild OCD myself. I knew I did > as a teenager, from reading about it. I put it out of my mind then, > because I did not want to be labeled. In the worst of times, I vowed > to live for the future, on the small hope that it would be better. > I've had a tumultuous time growing up and was known to my immediate > family to be a hellcat. I rather think of it as a warrior. Even now, > I am slightly resistant to our therapists homework she gives me to > help me deal with my own OCD behavior. My behavior doesn't impede my > functioning much, but does cause me distress and anxiety. I value > being independent and self-reliant. I am both proud of myself and > baffled. I became untrusting of others mostly because I felt I could > not turn to my parents AT ALL. They made alot of mistakes and caused > alot of damage. I watched one of my brothers slowly break down and > was finally diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was REALLY bad off and > I was so angry and frustrated with my parents. I could not believe > that they would deny reality or ignore or not understand what was > happening or even try. I have since developed understanding and > forgiveness for them and myself. They still go 'round and 'round > today and I can see so clearly that if my mom would develop > understanding, her reactions would be so much better. I suppose its > easier to play a victim instead of becoming empowered with knowledge > and skill. My oldest brother is probably what did them in or wore > out their coping capacity in the first place. He was severe ADHD > (this was about 25 yrs ago). Both of these brothers have spent time > institutionalized. My youngest brother has Major Depression and it > is hard to watch him go from a stellar student and bright thinker to > practially incapacitated at times. My mom just reminded me that > about 10 people on my dad's side of the family have commited > suicide. Nature v/s nurture (genetics v/s environment)-- I sure > thought about that alot!! When my daughter was diagnosed I started > reading like a maniac-- it was then that I realized how much I was > doing that I knew was odd or distress-causing over the years and I > didn't understand why. As I became an adult, some of the compulsions > changed from the classic stuff most people associate with OCD. Its > so clear now, I could just cry. It makes me sad, for myself and for > her. Education is enlightening, facing the pain and healing. This > whole thing is creating healing opportunites for both of us. I > rather look at it that way than a terrible disaster that has the > capacity for crippling us for some senseless needless reason. I have > been a nurse in the ER for 4-5 years. I have compassion for the > mentally distressed and ones in crisis (or percieved crisis). I was > pretty good at turning situations around that some other staff would > have made worse, or gotten mad about (thereby upsetting themselves-- > which is just as unproductive). There are so many people who are > negatively judgemental or unconcerned. I've been blasted by both > sides of my family for my daughter's behavior but I know in my heart > that I have done the best possible job I could ever do. I believe > she would be much worse if I was not understanding and open with > her. What I didn't utilize to capacity was that I could use the same > communication skills and verbal martial arts with her that I use in > the world. LET ME TELL YOU-- it works so well!! To contain negative > energy, mirror it back, use humor-- all in a non-sarcastic or non- > negative way is fantastic. Super-parenting is what it is. Not only > do I do " normal " parenting skills like setting limits, helping her > develop positive emotions, having boundaries, but I've had to > develop further near-buddha techniques to avert the negative > assaults. Our kids are people too and are subject to the same > universal laws that we all operate under. I smiled when she said > last night " Mom, you're using psychology on me again, why can't you > be normal. " But she is laughing, and THAT IS THE POINT. What > normally would have been a total melt-down and crisis had an > entirely different outcome. I feel like I'm tap dancing in a fire > sometimes. Some of the stuff she says is flooring, some of it > hilarious and some of it makes me question why I'm on this earth. At > least we have one thing in common-- OCD, an instant connection and > source of support, hopefully more and more as she grows. Thank you > for listening and thank you again for sharing and giving of > yourselves. > > > > > --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Posted July 29, 2006 Hey everyone, I'm pretty new to the group and my daughter is now 21. She began her OCD journey at 8. It has indeed been a hard long journey for us but we are surviving. We went to the OCD conference in Atlanta last weekend and I bought a book, Kissing Doorknobs. I would suggest that each of you read it, as it will help you as a parent to be in the shoes of your OCD child for awhile. We truly need to be reminded of how real their OCD world seems to them. And, yet they often also realize it makes no sense at all. How confusing for them at such a young age to have thoughts all contradicting one another. We will never really understand all they go through but this book will help us to feel a little of their pain and uncertainty. I so wish I had known about this website through all my daughter's growing up years. So wonderful for you all to be able to share and encourage each other. Smiling, Leigh Re: sorrysomany! Thanks , for sharing the experiences and challanges of your family and yourself. My 12 year old daughter has OCD and is prone to angry outbursts when things aren't " just so " . Your comments about being blasted by your family really rings true. And it's also difficult to be around other adult friends/families when she has an issue - it's so unpredictable, yet we can't stop living for fear of an outburst at the wrong time. I've decided to stop explaining to people about her OCD, since so many think it's just a matter of discipline. I can't change their minds. Unfortunately, it has really shrunken our social circle and that bothers me a lot. I feel so isolated and this is when I need other people the most. My husband and I spend so much time discussing and stratagizing how to deal with her, that we can't provide the relief we need to each other. How do other parents maintain sanity and social connections despite the " handicap " of their childs problems? " autumn71A@... " <autumn71A@...> wrote: andrea - sorry for all your family has been through but boy oh boy is your daughter in the right place! keep up the good work - both of you!!!! Eileen Quoting anjmar333 <amarinonii@...>: > I'm sorry if I've posted this too many times. I'm trying to post a > new message and it's getting attached to older groups of messages. > Thanks for being patient: > Hi Everyone, My name is , 29 yrs old. My 10-yr-old daughter > was diagnosed with OCD this June. I wanted to say thank you for this > group, of giving and sharing so much. I, like alot of you, feel like > I have limited places to turn to for support. I can identify with > alot of symptoms I read about; I have mild OCD myself. I knew I did > as a teenager, from reading about it. I put it out of my mind then, > because I did not want to be labeled. In the worst of times, I vowed > to live for the future, on the small hope that it would be better. > I've had a tumultuous time growing up and was known to my immediate > family to be a hellcat. I rather think of it as a warrior. Even now, > I am slightly resistant to our therapists homework she gives me to > help me deal with my own OCD behavior. My behavior doesn't impede my > functioning much, but does cause me distress and anxiety. I value > being independent and self-reliant. I am both proud of myself and > baffled. I became untrusting of others mostly because I felt I could > not turn to my parents AT ALL. They made alot of mistakes and caused > alot of damage. I watched one of my brothers slowly break down and > was finally diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was REALLY bad off and > I was so angry and frustrated with my parents. I could not believe > that they would deny reality or ignore or not understand what was > happening or even try. I have since developed understanding and > forgiveness for them and myself. They still go 'round and 'round > today and I can see so clearly that if my mom would develop > understanding, her reactions would be so much better. I suppose its > easier to play a victim instead of becoming empowered with knowledge > and skill. My oldest brother is probably what did them in or wore > out their coping capacity in the first place. He was severe ADHD > (this was about 25 yrs ago). Both of these brothers have spent time > institutionalized. My youngest brother has Major Depression and it > is hard to watch him go from a stellar student and bright thinker to > practially incapacitated at times. My mom just reminded me that > about 10 people on my dad's side of the family have commited > suicide. Nature v/s nurture (genetics v/s environment)-- I sure > thought about that alot!! When my daughter was diagnosed I started > reading like a maniac-- it was then that I realized how much I was > doing that I knew was odd or distress-causing over the years and I > didn't understand why. As I became an adult, some of the compulsions > changed from the classic stuff most people associate with OCD. Its > so clear now, I could just cry. It makes me sad, for myself and for > her. Education is enlightening, facing the pain and healing. This > whole thing is creating healing opportunites for both of us. I > rather look at it that way than a terrible disaster that has the > capacity for crippling us for some senseless needless reason. I have > been a nurse in the ER for 4-5 years. I have compassion for the > mentally distressed and ones in crisis (or percieved crisis). I was > pretty good at turning situations around that some other staff would > have made worse, or gotten mad about (thereby upsetting themselves-- > which is just as unproductive). There are so many people who are > negatively judgemental or unconcerned. I've been blasted by both > sides of my family for my daughter's behavior but I know in my heart > that I have done the best possible job I could ever do. I believe > she would be much worse if I was not understanding and open with > her. What I didn't utilize to capacity was that I could use the same > communication skills and verbal martial arts with her that I use in > the world. LET ME TELL YOU-- it works so well!! To contain negative > energy, mirror it back, use humor-- all in a non-sarcastic or non- > negative way is fantastic. Super-parenting is what it is. Not only > do I do " normal " parenting skills like setting limits, helping her > develop positive emotions, having boundaries, but I've had to > develop further near-buddha techniques to avert the negative > assaults. Our kids are people too and are subject to the same > universal laws that we all operate under. I smiled when she said > last night " Mom, you're using psychology on me again, why can't you > be normal. " But she is laughing, and THAT IS THE POINT. What > normally would have been a total melt-down and crisis had an > entirely different outcome. I feel like I'm tap dancing in a fire > sometimes. Some of the stuff she says is flooring, some of it > hilarious and some of it makes me question why I'm on this earth. At > least we have one thing in common-- OCD, an instant connection and > source of support, hopefully more and more as she grows. Thank you > for listening and thank you again for sharing and giving of > yourselves. > > > > > --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 Hello Thanks for your support. I thought that Kay's problems were related to stressors of moving, changing schools more than once, etc. The things that drove me to get a therapist were her rages and anger attacks and near-panic if I left one room to walk into the next. She has Separation Anxiety Disorder as well as OCD. She would have worries and fears especially about death, losing us. She would come out of the bathroom dozens of times to tell us she was " going to take a shower now " and " would we be on the couch? " Another thing she would do was having to breathe five times, crack her knuckles and say a mantra before taking her daily medicine. That medicine is a nightly antibiotic for multiple kidney infections. We ended up in the ER because she was hoarding her pills in a sock (she can swallow pills). She had medical testing done to see if she had urinary reflux (she doesn't). She is not entirely open about the reason that she holds her pee/poo. It must be OCD (there seems to be no other explanation). I've read that kids can have OCD issues with using the restroom, otherwise I'd still be baffled. I wish she would tell me more, but she may not have a clear obsession, it may just be a feeling that something bad would happen. She seems embarassed about her behaviors and tries to make excuses... its so hard to ascertain WHAT the obsession is, if there is one. She did admit to me that she taps her feet and always has to end on an even number or she keeps doing it. She says she does it because she's " bored. " Thank you for listening, I know I wrote alot. Quote
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 My daughter Lindsey also does the same, goes into rages, has separation anxiety, and holds in everything relating to the bathroom. She is 6. How old is your daughter? I am writing off board, sometimes I hate posting everything! anjmar333 <amarinonii@...> wrote: Hello Thanks for your support. I thought that Kay's problems were related to stressors of moving, changing schools more than once, etc. The things that drove me to get a therapist were her rages and anger attacks and near-panic if I left one room to walk into the next. She has Separation Anxiety Disorder as well as OCD. She would have worries and fears especially about death, losing us. She would come out of the bathroom dozens of times to tell us she was " going to take a shower now " and " would we be on the couch? " Another thing she would do was having to breathe five times, crack her knuckles and say a mantra before taking her daily medicine. That medicine is a nightly antibiotic for multiple kidney infections. We ended up in the ER because she was hoarding her pills in a sock (she can swallow pills). She had medical testing done to see if she had urinary reflux (she doesn't). She is not entirely open about the reason that she holds her pee/poo. It must be OCD (there seems to be no other explanation). I've read that kids can have OCD issues with using the restroom, otherwise I'd still be baffled. I wish she would tell me more, but she may not have a clear obsession, it may just be a feeling that something bad would happen. She seems embarassed about her behaviors and tries to make excuses... its so hard to ascertain WHAT the obsession is, if there is one. She did admit to me that she taps her feet and always has to end on an even number or she keeps doing it. She says she does it because she's " bored. " Thank you for listening, I know I wrote alot. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min. Quote
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