Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Posted August 10, 2006 Ellen, I feel for you, my son when he gets stressed and in public places will say things over and over and tap on me over and over and it absolutely gets to every last nerve. Its like his whole behavior is not him and he does things that no one else would do. When we went to Disney, my son loved it, but really struggled with the crowds, open spaces, etc. For 7 days total, he would bang his head on my arm, and say “burpee, burpee” over and over. I had bruises all over my arms and in total tears by the end of the week. It was like nothing I ever felt and my nerve system was at its peak. Nothing I did would make it go away either. I was with friends and they kept saying “can’t you do something about that?” Nothing I tried to do to get him to stop would work. It was so hard because I was dealing with two issue, 1) the banging and repeated noises but 2) the public humiliation and feelings of failure that I couldn’t control it. I just wanted both of us to get out of the situation as fast as we could and hide in the safetly of our home. My second thought is I hear you say she is like failing, can the people there help you figure this out? For me I am constantly feeling like I have to protect myself and my son from public humiliations. I am constantly stressed as to what to do to try and make him more “normal with others”. When we started going to the psych I found myself doing that with him also until I stopped and realized I don’t need to hide these weird behaviors but pray he shows them the worse with the doctor so maybe he can figure it out. I hope that the doctors there are understanding your grief and will come up with some solutions. No you are not a wimp, you are going through some major stuff with the hope of help, fear that it isn’t working, shame of daughters behavior not being like the other kids, etc. Hang in there and hope these doctors can help teach you both how to handle stresses. DP _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of musicgirl9395 Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:44 AM Subject: Parental stress during treatmment Hi, The 3rd day at wasn't as good as the second. But I am still hoping she will get with the system. She isn't doing all that she is suppose to be doing yet. I am not sure why. Maybe it is her ADD, or maybe it is just avoidance of the whole thing. SHe is scared, I know. I come home from the program, so emotionally exhausted. The program is 3 hours and it is a long drive each way. In the car, she swears at me and taps me a lot. It is pretty awful. Does that sound stressful? I am wondering if I am just a wimp. Tomorrow we are meeting with a doctor there. I do feel well taken care of there. Even a nurse came up to me today and she knew all about my daughter already. I hope my daughter starts doing what she is suppose to do, and I hope I can adjust to the routine. I definitely need to take some time for myself. Just felt like venting. Thanks for listening. Ellen Quote
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Posted August 10, 2006 we are heading to Disney next Fri - asked doc for a note - disney allows special accomodations such as waiting in a separate place - not skipping lines etc but could be very helpful - OCD is running rampid right now and I'm trying a 10 day antibiotic due to high titers always - trying not to do any exposure etc to see if she's truly a PANDAS kid but letting it run wild is really scary - but I won't know till I try - we had done a bit of exposure the other night and I really hate it but the affects are great and quick too - didn't feel it during though but of course then I realized this whole antibiotic thing and feel bad I made her fight one night and then now I'm doing nothing to see if this works?? -I hate the confusion - matter of fact - I HATE OCD! Eileen :-) Quoting Adele Mahan <adelem@...>: > Ellen, > > I feel for you, my son when he gets stressed and in public places will say > things over and over and tap on me over and over and it absolutely gets to > every last nerve. Its like his whole behavior is not him and he does things > that no one else would do. When we went to Disney, my son loved it, but > really struggled with the crowds, open spaces, etc. For 7 days total, he > would bang his head on my arm, and say “burpee, burpee” over and over. I had > bruises all over my arms and in total tears by the end of the week. It was > like nothing I ever felt and my nerve system was at its peak. Nothing I did > would make it go away either. I was with friends and they kept saying “can’t > you do something about that?” Nothing I tried to do to get him to stop would > work. It was so hard because I was dealing with two issue, 1) the banging > and repeated noises but 2) the public humiliation and feelings of failure > that I couldn’t control it. I just wanted both of us to get out of the > situation as fast as we could and hide in the safetly of our home. > > > > My second thought is I hear you say she is like failing, can the people > there help you figure this out? For me I am constantly feeling like I have > to protect myself and my son from public humiliations. I am constantly > stressed as to what to do to try and make him more “normal with others”. > When we started going to the psych I found myself doing that with him also > until I stopped and realized I don’t need to hide these weird behaviors but > pray he shows them the worse with the doctor so maybe he can figure it out. > I hope that the doctors there are understanding your grief and will come up > with some solutions. > > > > No you are not a wimp, you are going through some major stuff with the hope > of help, fear that it isn’t working, shame of daughters behavior not being > like the other kids, etc. Hang in there and hope these doctors can help > teach you both how to handle stresses. > > DP > > _____ > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of musicgirl9395 > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:44 AM > > Subject: Parental stress during treatmment > > > > Hi, > The 3rd day at wasn't as good as the second. But I am still > hoping she will get with the system. She isn't doing all that she is > suppose to be doing yet. I am not sure why. Maybe it is her ADD, or > maybe it is just avoidance of the whole thing. SHe is scared, I > know. I come home from the program, so emotionally exhausted. The > program is 3 hours and it is a long drive each way. In the car, she > swears at me and taps me a lot. It is pretty awful. Does that sound > stressful? I am wondering if I am just a wimp. Tomorrow we are > meeting with a doctor there. I do feel well taken care of there. > Even a nurse came up to me today and she knew all about my daughter > already. I hope my daughter starts doing what she is suppose to do, > and I hope I can adjust to the routine. I definitely need to take > some time for myself. Just felt like venting. Thanks for > listening. Ellen > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Posted August 10, 2006 In a message dated 8/10/2006 11:28:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, autumn71A@... writes: disney allows special accomodations such as waiting in a separate place - not skipping lines Eileen Disney also offers 'reservations' for rides (not sure if it's all rides, or just the big ones), but that might help you out a few times at least. You can go in advance to, say, Haunted Mansion & get a reservation ticket for a specific time to go on the ride - then you go do other things, come back at your specified time and just basically walk right on the ride - or the wait is only a few people in front of you while the regular line could be an hour or longer wait. This is something they started after the last time I was at any Disney park.... but my friends go all the time & say this feature is great. Like I said, at least it might help a few times. You can only use it on one ride at a time though. Have fun.... we're going for 4 days in August as well. LT Quote
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Posted August 10, 2006 Stress, yes, so much stress. I often think it is worse around friends than strangers. I hate being embarrassed. I think if he were in a wheelchair would I be embarrassed? One friend often comments, " sounds like he is trying to get attention " . It's like she hasn't heard me the last 5 months talk about a real diagnosis and everything we have gone through. She is also worried her daughter will " catch it " because she is seeing him act that way and might imitate him to " get attention " . Yes, her kids are attention seeking, they need to be. She also asked that I tell him not to talk about his OCD with her daughter for the same reason. Needless to say, we are not around them often anymore. I think people just don't understand. Strangers stare when he has meltdowns in the store and I've heard comments like " someone needs a good spanking " . I was upset and turned and said " what did you say? " in a crazed, hysterical voice. It stopped my son's meltdown and freaked the guy out a little, hey, two birds one stone. I just try and remain calm, and then freak out later in private with a good cry. J Parental stress during treatmment > > > > Hi, > The 3rd day at wasn't as good as the second. But I am still > hoping she will get with the system. She isn't doing all that she is > suppose to be doing yet. I am not sure why. Maybe it is her ADD, or > maybe it is just avoidance of the whole thing. SHe is scared, I > know. I come home from the program, so emotionally exhausted. The > program is 3 hours and it is a long drive each way. In the car, she > swears at me and taps me a lot. It is pretty awful. Does that sound > stressful? I am wondering if I am just a wimp. Tomorrow we are > meeting with a doctor there. I do feel well taken care of there. > Even a nurse came up to me today and she knew all about my daughter > already. I hope my daughter starts doing what she is suppose to do, > and I hope I can adjust to the routine. I definitely need to take > some time for myself. Just felt like venting. Thanks for > listening. Ellen > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Posted August 10, 2006 Going through this with my son has taught me true humility. I have learned so much about the stupid things people say and makes me feel bad for the stupid things I have said to people in the past. I hope if I get anything out of this, I am learning how to have more compassion for others and what not to say to others when they are going through hard times. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Parental stress during treatmment Stress, yes, so much stress. I often think it is worse around friends than strangers. I hate being embarrassed. I think if he were in a wheelchair would I be embarrassed? One friend often comments, " sounds like he is trying to get attention " . It's like she hasn't heard me the last 5 months talk about a real diagnosis and everything we have gone through. She is also worried her daughter will " catch it " because she is seeing him act that way and might imitate him to " get attention " . Yes, her kids are attention seeking, they need to be. She also asked that I tell him not to talk about his OCD with her daughter for the same reason. Needless to say, we are not around them often anymore. I think people just don't understand. Strangers stare when he has meltdowns in the store and I've heard comments like " someone needs a good spanking " . I was upset and turned and said " what did you say? " in a crazed, hysterical voice. It st J Parental stress during treatmment > > > > Hi, > The 3rd day at wasn't as good as the second. But I am still > hoping she will get with the system. She isn't doing all that she is > suppose to be doing yet. I am not sure why. Maybe it is her ADD, or > maybe it is just avoidance of the whole thing. SHe is scared, I > know. I come home from the program, so emotionally exhausted. The > program is 3 hours and it is a long drive each way. In the car, she > swears at me and taps me a lot. It is pretty awful. Does that sound > stressful? I am wondering if I am just a wimp. Tomorrow we are > meeting with a doctor there. I do feel well taken care of there. > Even a nurse came up to me today and she knew all about my daughter > already. I hope my daughter starts doing what she is suppose to do, > and I hope I can adjust to the routine. I definitely need to take > some time for myself. Just felt like venting. Thanks for > listening. Ellen > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 In a message dated 8/11/2006 5:25:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, adelem@... writes: I have learned so much about the stupid things people say and makes me feel bad for the stupid things I have said to people in the past. I hope if I get anything out of this, I am learning how to have more compassion for others DP - So right you are. One thing I've learned (and tried to stay aware of)... not just from our experience with OCD, but other things in life as well - just keep an open mind. You have no idea why someone acts a certain way or responds a certain way. I always try to give the benefit of the doubt to others. When we get weird looks in a public bathroom (hand washing... or coaxing my dd out of the stall), I just think to myself, " this person has NO idea why we're doing this.... of course it looks weird to them. " And it does help (just a little) to brush off comments or stares that way. I don't think people really mean disrespect, they're just ignorant. LT Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:06:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sdonovan1@... writes: wow, that is neat. how do you do that? is it for anyone, or for special needs? Sharon - From what I understand, there is a ticket-type machine set up at rides.... you just put in your family name & it spits out a ticket with a time on it for when you should return to go on the ride. The only thing is that you can't use it at any other ride until you've gone on THAT ride at your reserved time. Once you go on the ride at your time, you can make a reservation at another ride. Like I said, I haven't been there since they've established this, buy my girlfriend's family has been to Disney World several times over the last few years & they are all about it. LT Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 In a message dated 8/11/2006 10:34:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, thesilvas@... writes: Does anyone know of a place where I can get a flier of some sort that breifly explains OCD? Here is a link to a 24 page brochure ( I found it on the OCFoundation.org website). It explains it pretty well, I think. Take a look & see if it is what you want for your family. LT _http://www.ocfchicago.org/pdfs/PARENTS%20GUIDE.pdf_ (http://www.ocfchicago.org/pdfs/PARENTS%20GUIDE.pdf) Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 I think if a stranger said someone needed a spanking to me, I would have smacked THEIR butt!!! RUDE! The more I read on this group, the more thankful I am of everyone here. Abby, 5, is SUCH an attention seeker and cant stand it if someone interrupts her, or talks when she wanted to, or if I am talking to someone else and she wants to say something and I tell her to wait. It is like torture to her. She whines and cries over the littlest things and says her feelings are hurt over everything. Sometimes it is so hard to keep my cool with her. Sharon Parental stress during treatmment > > > > Hi, > The 3rd day at wasn't as good as the second. But I am still > hoping she will get with the system. She isn't doing all that she is > suppose to be doing yet. I am not sure why. Maybe it is her ADD, or > maybe it is just avoidance of the whole thing. SHe is scared, I > know. I come home from the program, so emotionally exhausted. The > program is 3 hours and it is a long drive each way. In the car, she > swears at me and taps me a lot. It is pretty awful. Does that sound > stressful? I am wondering if I am just a wimp. Tomorrow we are > meeting with a doctor there. I do feel well taken care of there. > Even a nurse came up to me today and she knew all about my daughter > already. I hope my daughter starts doing what she is suppose to do, > and I hope I can adjust to the routine. I definitely need to take > some time for myself. Just felt like venting. Thanks for > listening. Ellen > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 wow, that is neat. how do you do that? is it for anyone, or for special needs? sharon Re: Parental stress during treatmment In a message dated 8/10/2006 11:28:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, autumn71A@... writes: disney allows special accomodations such as waiting in a separate place - not skipping lines Eileen Disney also offers 'reservations' for rides (not sure if it's all rides, or just the big ones), but that might help you out a few times at least. You can go in advance to, say, Haunted Mansion & get a reservation ticket for a specific time to go on the ride - then you go do other things, come back at your specified time and just basically walk right on the ride - or the wait is only a few people in front of you while the regular line could be an hour or longer wait. This is something they started after the last time I was at any Disney park.... but my friends go all the time & say this feature is great. Like I said, at least it might help a few times. You can only use it on one ride at a time though. Have fun.... we're going for 4 days in August as well. LT Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 I know what you mean... Does anyone know of a place where I can get a flier of some sort that breifly explains OCD? I want to educate some family members without giving them a book big enough to choke a horse. The jerks at the grocery store can mind their own business. > > Stress, yes, so much stress. I often think it is worse around friends than strangers. I hate being embarrassed. I think if he were in a wheelchair would I be embarrassed? One friend often comments, " sounds like he is trying to get attention " . It's like she hasn't heard me the last 5 months talk about a real diagnosis and everything we have gone through. She is also worried her daughter will " catch it " because she is seeing him act that way and might imitate him to " get attention " . Yes, her kids are attention seeking, they need to be. She also asked that I tell him not to talk about his OCD with her daughter for the same reason. Needless to say, we are not around them often anymore. I think people just don't understand. Strangers stare when he has meltdowns in the store and I've heard comments like " someone needs a good spanking " . I was upset and turned and said " what did you say? " in a crazed, hysterical voice. It stopped my son's meltdown and freaked the guy out a little, hey, two birds one stone. I just try and remain calm, and then freak out later in private with a good cry. > J > Parental stress during treatmment > > > > > > > > Hi, > > The 3rd day at wasn't as good as the second. But I am still > > hoping she will get with the system. She isn't doing all that she is > > suppose to be doing yet. I am not sure why. Maybe it is her ADD, or > > maybe it is just avoidance of the whole thing. SHe is scared, I > > know. I come home from the program, so emotionally exhausted. The > > program is 3 hours and it is a long drive each way. In the car, she > > swears at me and taps me a lot. It is pretty awful. Does that sound > > stressful? I am wondering if I am just a wimp. Tomorrow we are > > meeting with a doctor there. I do feel well taken care of there. > > Even a nurse came up to me today and she knew all about my daughter > > already. I hope my daughter starts doing what she is suppose to do, > > and I hope I can adjust to the routine. I definitely need to take > > some time for myself. Just felt like venting. Thanks for > > listening. Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 small world LT!! that's when we'll be down there! we used the Fastpass a few times on our last trip - you get it, go on other things and go back at that time on the pass - then you can get another one - or maybe you can have one each hour - not sure - maybe we'll meet :-) Eileen Quoting jtlt@...: > > In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:06:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sdonovan1@... writes: > > wow, that is neat. how do you do that? is it for anyone, or for special > needs? > > > Sharon - > > From what I understand, there is a ticket-type machine set up at rides.... > you just put in your family name & it spits out a ticket with a time > on it for > when you should return to go on the ride. The only thing is that you can't > use it at any other ride until you've gone on THAT ride at your reserved > time. Once you go on the ride at your time, you can make a reservation at > another ride. > > Like I said, I haven't been there since they've established this, buy my > girlfriend's family has been to Disney World several times over the last few > years & they are all about it. > LT > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 Thanx for the link! This is a never cool brocure. I'm still not sure they will get it. I get the impression that they think he just takes after me. They don't get that this is an imbalance, not just a personality trait. > > > In a message dated 8/11/2006 10:34:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > thesilvas@... writes: > > Does anyone know of a place where I can get a flier of some sort > that breifly explains OCD? > > > > Here is a link to a 24 page brochure ( I found it on the OCFoundation.org > website). It explains it pretty well, I think. Take a look & see if it is > what you want for your family. > LT > > _http://www.ocfchicago.org/pdfs/PARENTS%20GUIDE.pdf_ > (http://www.ocfchicago.org/pdfs/PARENTS%20GUIDE.pdf) > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 In a message dated 8/11/2006 12:23:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, autumn71A@... writes: small world LT!! that's when we'll be down there! ..............................maybe we'll meet :-) Eileen - Oh gees!!! My daughter would have COW if we ever met anyone on this board. She refuses to talk about her OCD to anyone other than me, my husband & her therapist (and she doesn't like talking to the therapist!) I wish I could get her involved enough to meet other people with OCD ... I know it would do ME a world of good! We even have a local support group, but there's no way she would go. One day maybe. But August 2006 doesn't look good!!!!! LT Quote
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 I understand - my dd is totally open and I hope she stays this way or that it's fully under control before she'd get to an embarrassed age - I know MOST don't want to talk about it - I hope you have a great time! Eileen Quoting jtlt@...: > > In a message dated 8/11/2006 12:23:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > autumn71A@... writes: > > small world LT!! that's when we'll be down there! > .............................maybe we'll meet :-) > > > > Eileen - > > Oh gees!!! My daughter would have COW if we ever met anyone on this board. > She refuses to talk about her OCD to anyone other than me, my husband & her > therapist (and she doesn't like talking to the therapist!) I wish I could > get her involved enough to meet other people with OCD ... I know it > would do ME > a world of good! We even have a local support group, but there's no way she > would go. One day maybe. But August 2006 doesn't look good!!!!! > LT > > > Quote
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