Re: colostrum for bodybuilding

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corny

people on the primal diet all put on alot of muscle mass

i saw it with my own eyes there was one really scrawny guy who got muscular

just eat tons of raw eggs and beef and cream the weight will increase

i have the opposite problem if i even look at a weight i get bigger. the

grass is always greener because i want to be a scrawny musician. oh well.

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Arthur

thanks for the reminder. I think I was one of the first to introduce the

approach of Aajonus Vonderplanitz to this group about 3-4 years ago. I should

be practicing what I preached! I heard him being interviewed on a radio program

hosted by a famous bodybuilder in Phoenix. The host was skeptical about the raw

food diet, but I remember being instinctively drawn to what AV was saying. I

immediately read his book " We Want to Live " and embarked on a mostly raw food

(meat, etc) diet right away with great results. I wasn't aware though, of the

things you have learned since you consulted with him and became heavily involved

with the Primal diet.

I will take your advice about the eggs, beef and cream and not be concerned

about about supplements.

By the way, why does a musician have to be scrawny?

Corny

Re: colostrum for bodybuilding

corny

people on the primal diet all put on alot of muscle mass

i saw it with my own eyes there was one really scrawny guy who got muscular

just eat tons of raw eggs and beef and cream the weight will increase

i have the opposite problem if i even look at a weight i get bigger. the

grass is always greener because i want to be a scrawny musician. oh well.

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Corny, I believe there are some homeopathic growth hormone

preparations, although offhand I don't know the brand names, but a

google search might help.

Regular growth hormone is dicey--too experimental, I think, and like

any hormone can speed the growth of indolent or subclinical

malignancies...

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I will check into homeopathic Hgh, although my experience with homeopathic to

date has been a bust. Hgh injections have had some good trials, especially at

the U of Wisconsin, where the ground-breaking studies were first done. I'm not

sure why there hasn't been more mainstream press on it, but my feeling is that

it is such a valid, rejuvenating therapy that it is being suppressed.

Do you have any specifics on it causing malignancies?

Corny

Re: colostrum for bodybuilding

Corny, I believe there are some homeopathic growth hormone

preparations, although offhand I don't know the brand names, but a

google search might help.

Regular growth hormone is dicey--too experimental, I think, and like

any hormone can speed the growth of indolent or subclinical

malignancies...

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[Guest guest]

Corny, I did a lot of research on hgH at one point because of some

discussion on lymenet; ther eis one lyme doctor who is much liked but

prescribes simultaneously multiple antibiotics, multiple hormones

inclding hgH (3-6 hormones) AND heparin. What a horror, imho.

It took me many hours to research and did no good for those who were

enthused about all these meds. There *are* people who have

endocrinoapthies, who actually have significant deficiencies, and

supplementaiton can help. But adding in hgH when you are a regular

person (evena regular " sick " person) can be dicey. There is a lot of

research linking hgH to cancers but that's not surprising, same with

other exogenous hormones. Our bodies have a complex choreography of

hormones and its one we can never get right from the outside by

adding in what may be a sledgehammer of one or two.

OTOH a friend with MCS did take homeopathic hgH. I have to tell you

I'm not sure in the end it was good for her, but iw as effective. I

remember that summer for the first time in about 15 years of MCS she

got revved up, it was almost like her personality changed, from

accepting and gentle to goal-oriented and charging ahead, and she

decided that she and her boyfriend of 8 years should leave their

chemically safe little one bedroom and move into a big house. In that

house they'd used fabric softener in their wash for years and it had

penetrared the wood. SHe knew she shouldn[t move in that house as

she could smell it and it was giong to be bad for her, but it was

like her personality was being driven by the HgH. They moved and she

crashed so bad she was sick for a year (had to move back into her 1

bedroom, and guess what, boyfriend of 8 years didn't feel like doing

the same, he rally liked the new house). Not nice of him, and she

felt very alone in the process--but my point being, it was quite

effective. And heomoepathic remedies you can take in low doses and

are safer I think. Just my 2 cents.