Re: Scoby for cold sores?

[Guest guest]

I have not tried that yet but will. Howeve I have a piece of scoby on my wart

and it is tingling. Almost hurts. I just figured it was doing its thing. Sure

hope so.

Good luck with your cold sore!!!

Tiff

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Scoby for cold sores?

I have been getting over a cold - luckily that only lasted a couple of days.

I usually end up getting cold sores whenever I happen to get a cold - which

isn't very often. Today I was bottling my brew and I took some of the

layers of scoby to toss into my compost bin because my culture was getting a

bit

thick (which I like because it produces more fizz). Anyway, I remember

several members stating how they use scoby for burns, scrapes etc. I put a

small

piece of scoby on my lip for about 10 minutes as my kids were circling me

asking me what the brown goop was (LOL). I must say that it actually has

removed

the pain. I still feel a little bit of " tingling " , so I'm wondering if its

killing the virus....

Has anyone else had luck with using scoby to get rid of cold sores?

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Hi , I will definitely let you know. I will also try the liquid KT

instead of just the scoby. I'm already at the " puffy " stage, but will try

today

with alternating liquid KT and scoby. I hate these things and so

unattractive!!! Hopefully this will be another thing to add to the long list of

things

that KT/scoby help alleviate.

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Hello! I hope it works for your cold sore! Could you let me know? I

and others in my family suffer from them... I did want to let you

know, that I seemed to be starting one the other day and I put some KT

on it and just let it dry, for a few times a day and it never

developed. Another day the whole front of my upper lip started

swelling and was red..I put some KT on it (just the liquid) only once

or twice and let it dry and no cold sore! Hope it works!!

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Hello all,

I do have them sometimes often, it depends on my immune system. When I do have

them, I put some fresh lemon juice on it, it goes away faster.

Gul

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>

>

>

> Hi , I will definitely let you know. I will also try the

liquid KT

> instead of just the scoby. I'm already at the " puffy " stage, but

will try today

> with alternating liquid KT and scoby. I hate these things and so

> unattractive!!! Hopefully this will be another thing to add to the

long list of things

> that KT/scoby help alleviate.

More power to you if it works, but I can't think of any particular

reason it should. The best natural cold sore relief I've found is

good-old-fashioned camphor ointment. Carmex is great if you aren't

worried about all-organic, and there are several camphorated Burt's

Bees products if you are.

If you're like me, you'll buy some from the incense counter at an

Indian grocery in a large city and make your own with organic olive

oil and beeswax. *grin*

[Guest guest]

There is a very tiny tube of..something at the drugstore for cold sores. It

makes them go away in a matter of hours.(for me anyway) Even if they are up and

going pretty well. It is expensive,($20 range) but cold sores are really

bothersome.....I wish I could remember the name of it. I'll bet there is only 3

or 4 drops in the tiny tube but it seems to last forever.

Don

Beckman <sehrgut@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi , I will definitely let you know. I will also try the

liquid KT

> instead of just the scoby. I'm already at the " puffy " stage, but

will try today

> with alternating liquid KT and scoby. I hate these things and so

> unattractive!!! Hopefully this will be another thing to add to the

long list of things

> that KT/scoby help alleviate.

More power to you if it works, but I can't think of any particular

reason it should. The best natural cold sore relief I've found is

good-old-fashioned camphor ointment. Carmex is great if you aren't

worried about all-organic, and there are several camphorated Burt's

Bees products if you are.

If you're like me, you'll buy some from the incense counter at an

Indian grocery in a large city and make your own with organic olive

oil and beeswax. *grin*

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[Guest guest]

I looked tonight. The stuff is called " Releev " . Cold sores make me nuts

really fast. I'm sure KT,scoby will heal them well....I would just rather do it

in a couple of hours or so.

Don

<lostriverrisin@...> wrote:

There is a very tiny tube of..something at the drugstore for cold

sores. It makes them go away in a matter of hours.(for me anyway) Even if they

are up and going pretty well. It is expensive,($20 range) but cold sores are

really bothersome.....I wish I could remember the name of it. I'll bet there is

only 3 or 4 drops in the tiny tube but it seems to last forever.

Don

Beckman <sehrgut@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi , I will definitely let you know. I will also try the

liquid KT

> instead of just the scoby. I'm already at the " puffy " stage, but

will try today

> with alternating liquid KT and scoby. I hate these things and so

> unattractive!!! Hopefully this will be another thing to add to the

long list of things

> that KT/scoby help alleviate.

More power to you if it works, but I can't think of any particular

reason it should. The best natural cold sore relief I've found is

good-old-fashioned camphor ointment. Carmex is great if you aren't

worried about all-organic, and there are several camphorated Burt's

Bees products if you are.

If you're like me, you'll buy some from the incense counter at an

Indian grocery in a large city and make your own with organic olive

oil and beeswax. *grin*

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This side of the wet there's " Zovirax " . Plus I think it's " Boots " do one, might

be Acyclovir, not too sure on that one. Pretty good too, unless you're an out

and out shunner of suchlike.

Nn. England.

Re: Scoby for cold sores?

There

is

a

very

tiny

tube

of..something

at

the

drugstore

for

cold

sores.

It

makes

them

go

away

in

a

matter

of

hours.(for

me

anyway)

Even

if

they

are

up

and

going

pretty

well.

It

is

expensive,($20

range)

but

cold

sores

are

really

bothersome.....I

wish

I

could

remember

the

name

of

it.

I'll

bet

there

is

only

3

or

4

drops

in

the

tiny

tube

but

it

seems

to

last

forever.

Don

Beckman

<sehrgut@...>

wrote:

---

In

kombucha tea ,

tryjuiceplus@...

wrote:

>

>

>

>

Hi

,

I

will

definitely

let

you

know.

I

will

also

try

the

liquid

KT

>

instead

of

just

the

scoby.

I'm

already

at

the

" puffy "

stage,

but

will

try

today

>

with

alternating

liquid

KT

and

scoby.

I

hate

these

things

and

so

>

unattractive!!!

Hopefully

this

will

be

another

thing

to

add

to

the

long

list

of

things

>

that

KT/scoby

help

alleviate.

More

power

to

you

if

it

works,

but

I

can't

think

of

any

particular

reason

it

should.

The

best

natural

cold

sore

relief

I've

found

is

good-old-fashioned

camphor

ointment.

Carmex

is

great

if

you

aren't

worried

about

all-organic,

and

there

are

several

camphorated

Burt's

Bees

products

if

you

are.

If

you're

like

me,

you'll

buy

some

from

the

incense

counter

at

an

Indian

grocery

in

a

large

city

and

make

your

own

with

organic

olive

oil

and

beeswax.

*grin*

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This side of the wet there's " Zovirax " . Plus I think it's " Boots " do one, might

be Acyclovir, not too sure on that one. Pretty good too, unless you're an out

and out shunner of suchlike.

Nn. England.

Re: Scoby for cold sores?

There

is

a

very

tiny

tube

of..something

at

the

drugstore

for

cold

sores.

It

makes

them

go

away

in

a

matter

of

hours.(for

me

anyway)

Even

if

they

are

up

and

going

pretty

well.

It

is

expensive,($20

range)

but

cold

sores

are

really

bothersome.....I

wish

I

could

remember

the

name

of

it.

I'll

bet

there

is

only

3

or

4

drops

in

the

tiny

tube

but

it

seems

to

last

forever.

Don

Beckman

<sehrgut@...>

wrote:

---

In

kombucha tea ,

tryjuiceplus@...

wrote:

>

>

>

>

Hi

,

I

will

definitely

let

you

know.

I

will

also

try

the

liquid

KT

>

instead

of

just

the

scoby.

I'm

already

at

the

" puffy "

stage,

but

will

try

today

>

with

alternating

liquid

KT

and

scoby.

I

hate

these

things

and

so

>

unattractive!!!

Hopefully

this

will

be

another

thing

to

add

to

the

long

list

of

things

>

that

KT/scoby

help

alleviate.

More

power

to

you

if

it

works,

but

I

can't

think

of

any

particular

reason

it

should.

The

best

natural

cold

sore

relief

I've

found

is

good-old-fashioned

camphor

ointment.

Carmex

is

great

if

you

aren't

worried

about

all-organic,

and

there

are

several

camphorated

Burt's

Bees

products

if

you

are.

If

you're

like

me,

you'll

buy

some

from

the

incense

counter

at

an

Indian

grocery

in

a

large

city

and

make

your

own

with

organic

olive

oil

and

beeswax.

*grin*

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Hi ,

Just my 2 cents...my daughter, sister, and manager at work take L-

Lysine every day. If they forget for a few days, they will sometimes

develop a cold sore, if they are taking it regularly, they never have

one.

Dee

>

> I have been getting over a cold - luckily that only lasted a couple

of days.

[Guest guest]

I find this interesting. We, as a group are interested in things that really

work....or are we? The main reason I started all this was to find something

that actually works for the end result to make my life easier, happier and

healthier. .If the stuff in the tiny little tube works... then that/those goals

can be/are met, fast. If it does not ruin my health, all the better. I am 100%

sure that KT, kefir and the likes are a huge answer to many persons health

problems, including mine. I have all of them! I am using ALL of them! But I

guess my " this century mentality " is still... I want it now! I am waiting for

the statement(s) that KT can fix marital problems or something....if we all just

do this or that......long enough....

Don

Kane <brainnake@...> wrote:

This side of the wet there's " Zovirax " . Plus I think it's " Boots " do

one, might be Acyclovir, not too sure on that one. Pretty good too, unless

you're an out and out shunner of suchlike.

Nn. England.

Re: Scoby for cold sores?

There

is

a

very

tiny

tube

of..something

at

the

drugstore

for

cold

sores.

It

makes

them

go

away

in

a

matter

of

hours.(for

me

anyway)

Even

if

they

are

up

and

going

pretty

well.

It

is

expensive,($20

range)

but

cold

sores

are

really

bothersome.....I

wish

I

could

remember

the

name

of

it.

I'll

bet

there

is

only

3

or

4

drops

in

the

tiny

tube

but

it

seems

to

last

forever.

Don

Beckman

<sehrgut@...>

wrote:

---

In

kombucha tea ,

tryjuiceplus@...

wrote:

>

>

>

>

Hi

,

I

will

definitely

let

you

know.

I

will

also

try

the

liquid

KT

>

instead

of

just

the

scoby.

I'm

already

at

the

" puffy "

stage,

but

will

try

today

>

with

alternating

liquid

KT

and

scoby.

I

hate

these

things

and

so

>

unattractive!!!

Hopefully

this

will

be

another

thing

to

add

to

the

long

list

of

things

>

that

KT/scoby

help

alleviate.

More

power

to

you

if

it

works,

but

I

can't

think

of

any

particular

reason

it

should.

The

best

natural

cold

sore

relief

I've

found

is

good-old-fashioned

camphor

ointment.

Carmex

is

great

if

you

aren't

worried

about

all-organic,

and

there

are

several

camphorated

Burt's

Bees

products

if

you

are.

If

you're

like

me,

you'll

buy

some

from

the

incense

counter

at

an

Indian

grocery

in

a

large

city

and

make

your

own

with

organic

olive

oil

and

beeswax.

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>

> This side of the wet there's " Zovirax " . Plus I think it's " Boots " do

one, might be Acyclovir, not too sure on that one.

You're correct. Acyclovir is the drug of choice for all herpes simplex

infections. It interferes with activation of the provirus (virus

" gene " inserted into your DNA), which is why it's useful in slowing

the activity of HIV as well, another virus that works similarly to

herpesvirus.

[Guest guest]

> I am 100% sure that KT, kefir and the likes are a huge

> answer to many persons health problems, including mine.

> I have all of them! I am using ALL of them! But I guess

> my " this century mentality " is still... I want it now!

> I am waiting for the statement(s) that KT can fix marital

> problems or something....if we all just do this or

> that......long enough....

Always be wary of anything -- a panacaea -- that " fixes " too many

things all at once. Like grandpa always said, " If it sounds too good

to be true . . . " *grin*

[Guest guest]

Re: Scoby for cold sores?

>I find this interesting. We, as a group are interested in things that

>really work....or are we? The main reason I started all this was to find

>something that actually works for the end result to make my life easier,

>happier and healthier. .If the stuff in the tiny little tube works... then

>that/those goals can be/are met, fast. If it does not ruin my health, all

>the better. I am 100% sure that KT, kefir and the likes are a huge answer

>to many persons health problems, including mine. I have all of them! I am

>using ALL of them! But I guess my " this century mentality " is still... I

>want it now! I am waiting for the statement(s) that KT can fix marital

>problems or something....if we all just do this or that......long

>enough....

> Don

[Guest guest]

Don....I think KT, and Kefir do help on a few different levels, but maybe

not that fast fix. First off they help detox which in turn helps to

strengthen our immune system. That is turn will improve one's ability to

fight any number of invaders including herpes. And if the placebo effect

plays a part? What's wrong with that?

As for the herpes virus being a permanent resident...I don't believe that

has to be the case either. The human body is amazing and when combined with

a strong mind and spirit, anything is possible. How many times have we read

of someone with incurable cancer that is still living ten years after a

diagnosis giving two months? When we start believing all the limitations

the allopathic medical and pharmaceutical establishments put on us we

succumb to what they say will happen.

Look at bio-feedback. How incredible is that? I have a bio-feedback

program that is part of a computer " game " called " Journey to Wild Divine "

By consciously controlling breathing, heart rate and sweat responses you

control the action in aspects of the game. No mouse or joystick...just the

bio-feedback sensors and you. If you really want a non-pharmaceutical way to

control your blood pressure, this is it!

So when someone tells me that something has to be or cannot be for this or

that scientific reason...I say hogwash. Miracles happen everyday. And I

never dismiss the ability of the spiritual and/or divine to to contribute as

long as we are accepting of it.

Had to get that said. :- )

Gayle

Re: Scoby for cold sores?

>I find this interesting. We, as a group are interested in things that

>really work....or are we? The main reason I started all this was to find

>something that actually works for the end result to make my life easier,

>happier and healthier. .If the stuff in the tiny little tube works... then

>that/those goals can be/are met, fast. If it does not ruin my health, all

>the better. I am 100% sure that KT, kefir and the likes are a huge answer

>to many persons health problems, including mine. I have all of them! I am

>using ALL of them! But I guess my " this century mentality " is still... I

>want it now! I am waiting for the statement(s) that KT can fix marital

>problems or something....if we all just do this or that......long

>enough....

> Don

[Guest guest]

In message <0BEF92BD8D0A4547A325F3EC4698572B@testPC> you wrote:

>............................................................

> So when someone tells me that something has to be or cannot be for this or

> that scientific reason...I say hogwash. Miracles happen everyday. And I

> never dismiss the ability of the spiritual and/or divine to to contribute

> as long as we are accepting of it.

>

> Had to get that said. :- )

>

Thank you very much for that, Gayle!

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[Guest guest]

> So when someone tells me that something has to be

> or cannot be for this or that scientific reason...

> I say hogwash. Miracles happen everyday. And I

> never dismiss the ability of the spiritual and/or

> divine to to contribute as long as we are accepting of it.

I must respectfully meet your " hogwash! " with one of my own.

If an effect is due to a miracle of some sort, it's not dependent on

the kombucha (as that's the topic at hand). Therefore, miracle or no,

there's still neither evidence for nor reason to suspect that topical

application of kombucha does anything beyond the suppression of

stinging that acid of any kind can do (vinegar on bugbites, for example).

I'm not saying that miracles don't happen. I'm saying that if a

miracle occurs in, for instance, healing of a cold sore, attributing

it to the kombucha rather than to the miracle is the hogwash.

Therefore, the " miracle " card doesn't support (and if anything

degrades) any argument for the efficacy of topical KT application.

[Guest guest]

And once the world was flat.... ;- )

Gayle

Re: Scoby for cold sores?

>

>

>> So when someone tells me that something has to be

>> or cannot be for this or that scientific reason...

>> I say hogwash. Miracles happen everyday. And I

>> never dismiss the ability of the spiritual and/or

>> divine to to contribute as long as we are accepting of it.

>

> I must respectfully meet your " hogwash! " with one of my own.

>

> If an effect is due to a miracle of some sort, it's not dependent on

> the kombucha (as that's the topic at hand). Therefore, miracle or no,

> there's still neither evidence for nor reason to suspect that topical

> application of kombucha does anything beyond the suppression of

> stinging that acid of any kind can do (vinegar on bugbites, for example).

>

> I'm not saying that miracles don't happen. I'm saying that if a

> miracle occurs in, for instance, healing of a cold sore, attributing

> it to the kombucha rather than to the miracle is the hogwash.

>

> Therefore, the " miracle " card doesn't support (and if anything

> degrades) any argument for the efficacy of topical KT application.

>

[Guest guest]

> And once the world was flat.... ;- )

Ummm . . . correct me if I'm wrong, but that supports _my_ argument,

not yours. It wasn't the scientists saying that, it was the -- for

lack of a better term -- " miracle-mongers " .

The scientists were too busy being excommunicated for saying otherwise.

[Guest guest]

Hi ...just a p.s. on the cold sore....Also over the years,

before I had the KT, I found the quickest way to get rid of the cold

sores was with peroxide. Just a q-tip dipped in peroxide and then

dabbed on the cold sore. I would do each end of the q-tip and usually

it will dry up the cold sore very quickly. It bubbles a little after

a day of doing this but out of all the ointments just plain peroxide

has dried it up the fastest for me. Probably between drying it with

the peroxide and healing it with the KT it should clear soon?!...I

hope! Good luck! Just wanted to let you know since it's already

swelled up...Hope this helps!!

[Guest guest]

Re: Scoby for cold sores?

>

>

>> And once the world was flat.... ;- )

>

> Ummm . . . correct me if I'm wrong, but that supports _my_ argument,

> not yours. It wasn't the scientists saying that, it was the -- for

> lack of a better term -- " miracle-mongers " .

>

> The scientists were too busy being excommunicated for saying otherwise.

, you missed the point....The KT naysayers are the proverbial flat

earthers....and the rest of us are the ones who believe the earth to be

round but just do not yet have the tools show it is so! But one day we

will. : - ))

Now, I suggest we get back on topic.

One of the subject areas that is highly encouraged by the list is for

brewers new and experienced, young and old, to share their anecdotal

evidence with the list. Their personal experiences and their personal

evaluation of such.

It is counterproductive to that goal to be naysaying anecdotal evidence on

the basis that it is anecdotal evidence, we know it is not proven

scientifically...that is why we call it anecdotal evidence and that is one

of the subjects that most interests new and experienced brewers alike. You

may want to check the files section where a document is maintained in a

folder named Kombucha Testimonials. " It is our belief that Kombucha does

not " cure " anything, rather it seems to help the body to heal itself. "

To wit: http://tinyurl.com/2s5v3m

Gayle

P.S. ....it works, it works!

[Guest guest]

Re: Scoby for cold sores?

>

>

>> And once the world was flat.... ;- )

>

> Ummm . . . correct me if I'm wrong, but that supports _my_ argument,

> not yours. It wasn't the scientists saying that, it was the -- for

> lack of a better term -- " miracle-mongers " .

>

> The scientists were too busy being excommunicated for saying otherwise.

, you missed the point....The KT naysayers are the proverbial flat

earthers....and the rest of us are the ones who believe the earth to be

round but just do not yet have the tools show it is so! But one day we

will. : - ))

Now, I suggest we get back on topic.

One of the subject areas that is highly encouraged by the list is for

brewers new and experienced, young and old, to share their anecdotal

evidence with the list. Their personal experiences and their personal

evaluation of such.

It is counterproductive to that goal to be naysaying anecdotal evidence on

the basis that it is anecdotal evidence, we know it is not proven

scientifically...that is why we call it anecdotal evidence and that is one

of the subjects that most interests new and experienced brewers alike. You

may want to check the files section where a document is maintained in a

folder named Kombucha Testimonials. " It is our belief that Kombucha does

not " cure " anything, rather it seems to help the body to heal itself. "

To wit: http://tinyurl.com/2s5v3m

Gayle

P.S. ....it works, it works!