Re: I cannot break-out it seems

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Now i'm annoyed at errors, it pasted the wrong edit of the post.

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Now i'm annoyed at errors, it pasted the wrong edit of the post.

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Once you have seen what a group is like, you have an idea whether it is

1. a group you would like to establish yourself in, even if it will

take time,

or 2. a group that is not what you are looking for and will never be

any good for you.

If it is a group worth bothering with, then keeping at it is better

than abandoning it in annoyance that it's taking too long.

I spent 3 years 9 months friendless, in the prime of teenage at ages

15 to 19: straight after extricating myself from teenage mental unit,

and as the price of it. No fellow patients there were reliable enough,

about my struggles, to keep in touch with. Then I had to carry out the

endgame with school as well, during the first 17 months of this

period. Then as a school leaver who had to rebuild my life from

nothing but family, after all I had been through, there were no

obvious social openings for me. Nor until I had been free for some

time, long enough to have anything to talk about, could I even accept

letting folks ask about my life in the ordinary social way!

It takes an aspie to be strong enough to cope with such a situation.

It was a result of injustice, and there was no foreseeing how or when

it would end. Just sooner or later it did end, as new things pop up in

life.

>

> I am impatient and do not want to wait months to have societal

> participations. Two organizations do not understand that

> participating is important and I cannot do it on my own it seems.

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Once you have seen what a group is like, you have an idea whether it is

1. a group you would like to establish yourself in, even if it will

take time,

or 2. a group that is not what you are looking for and will never be

any good for you.

If it is a group worth bothering with, then keeping at it is better

than abandoning it in annoyance that it's taking too long.

I spent 3 years 9 months friendless, in the prime of teenage at ages

15 to 19: straight after extricating myself from teenage mental unit,

and as the price of it. No fellow patients there were reliable enough,

about my struggles, to keep in touch with. Then I had to carry out the

endgame with school as well, during the first 17 months of this

period. Then as a school leaver who had to rebuild my life from

nothing but family, after all I had been through, there were no

obvious social openings for me. Nor until I had been free for some

time, long enough to have anything to talk about, could I even accept

letting folks ask about my life in the ordinary social way!

It takes an aspie to be strong enough to cope with such a situation.

It was a result of injustice, and there was no foreseeing how or when

it would end. Just sooner or later it did end, as new things pop up in

life.

>

> I am impatient and do not want to wait months to have societal

> participations. Two organizations do not understand that

> participating is important and I cannot do it on my own it seems.

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The mysteries of other people's inner-dwellings

The mind as a climate of the sphere of thought…

The minds of other people..

Are sort of like hard drives with programs installed in them that

inner-link and mold its existences of thought through the influences

of experience and the process of thought itself.

I think psychology is based upon generalities though within patterns

specifics. There are universals but each mind exists independently

regardless of the subjectivity of the individual.

A sales man the other day used so many hand gestures when speaking,

then eye contact. I just looked away and ignored all of that. It is

over-stimulation and certainly part of a social quality for

interactive purposes.

Back to the subject, why is it that people are programmed seemingly

and copy social clique trends and ways? I suppose social interaction

is a type of intelligence, I don't suppose it to be a benefit nor

reprehensive.

I just wonder where all the smart people are, socially enlightened

individuals who disqualify individuals from social interplay because

of their ways are buttheads. Also why are so many people appalled at

the ways of others in life, that all are not like a neighbors such as

in Leave it to Beaver?

- Not Broken

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The mysteries of other people's inner-dwellings

The mind as a climate of the sphere of thought…

The minds of other people..

Are sort of like hard drives with programs installed in them that

inner-link and mold its existences of thought through the influences

of experience and the process of thought itself.

I think psychology is based upon generalities though within patterns

specifics. There are universals but each mind exists independently

regardless of the subjectivity of the individual.

A sales man the other day used so many hand gestures when speaking,

then eye contact. I just looked away and ignored all of that. It is

over-stimulation and certainly part of a social quality for

interactive purposes.

Back to the subject, why is it that people are programmed seemingly

and copy social clique trends and ways? I suppose social interaction

is a type of intelligence, I don't suppose it to be a benefit nor

reprehensive.

I just wonder where all the smart people are, socially enlightened

individuals who disqualify individuals from social interplay because

of their ways are buttheads. Also why are so many people appalled at

the ways of others in life, that all are not like a neighbors such as

in Leave it to Beaver?

- Not Broken

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You left school?

I left school becuase I could not tolerate the environments i was put

in. It was horrible though it was not understood. I got all A's and

was on the deans list befre in a private christian college prep

school.

I was told in high school by the tester I just missed being offered

the gifted program. That might have taken me out of the conditions of

the regular class rooms.

Also dairy reduces clearity, I didn't eat any today. I hope to never

eat it again.

> >

> > I am impatient and do not want to wait months to have societal

> > participations. Two organizations do not understand that

> > participating is important and I cannot do it on my own it seems.

>

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You left school?

I left school becuase I could not tolerate the environments i was put

in. It was horrible though it was not understood. I got all A's and

was on the deans list befre in a private christian college prep

school.

I was told in high school by the tester I just missed being offered

the gifted program. That might have taken me out of the conditions of

the regular class rooms.

Also dairy reduces clearity, I didn't eat any today. I hope to never

eat it again.

> >

> > I am impatient and do not want to wait months to have societal

> > participations. Two organizations do not understand that

> > participating is important and I cannot do it on my own it seems.

>

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Hi , Well you can be social here with us, at least its a start, Im not sure what they have in your area, but I know in mine there are some suport groups for people with as, there are also social groups where you can learn to interact socially. I know this may be farfetched, but I am learning that recovering addicts have the same proplems with do with emotions, handling them dealing with them and feeling them. That may be an option. Also have you tried an online course, or a community college, to get your foot in the door., on a college campus you would have more oportunity for social interactions. Beth <nathaninfortuna@...> wrote: I am impatient and do not want to wait months to have societal participations. Two

organizations do not understand that participating is important and I cannot do it on my own it seems.So I do not know what to do. Once I become familurized with a toutine it get easier, but I do not want to be here any longer, I can refuse to but I am still here. I have tried going places that are new, jsut being dropped off, no one really talks to me unless they are selling me something.What the heck.I think society is loosing out on my great mind, no I am not a narcisist. I'd like to goto college and larn, I was already denied at a Jr. college.I buy used text books from amazon and would like to learn a proper study methodology as well as get credit for my indipendent studies.I would like a valued function in society participating. What do I do?

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Hi , Well you can be social here with us, at least its a start, Im not sure what they have in your area, but I know in mine there are some suport groups for people with as, there are also social groups where you can learn to interact socially. I know this may be farfetched, but I am learning that recovering addicts have the same proplems with do with emotions, handling them dealing with them and feeling them. That may be an option. Also have you tried an online course, or a community college, to get your foot in the door., on a college campus you would have more oportunity for social interactions. Beth <nathaninfortuna@...> wrote: I am impatient and do not want to wait months to have societal participations. Two

organizations do not understand that participating is important and I cannot do it on my own it seems.So I do not know what to do. Once I become familurized with a toutine it get easier, but I do not want to be here any longer, I can refuse to but I am still here. I have tried going places that are new, jsut being dropped off, no one really talks to me unless they are selling me something.What the heck.I think society is loosing out on my great mind, no I am not a narcisist. I'd like to goto college and larn, I was already denied at a Jr. college.I buy used text books from amazon and would like to learn a proper study methodology as well as get credit for my indipendent studies.I would like a valued function in society participating. What do I do?

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That's a big issue for me as well. My stomach doesn't like dairy at all. In the mornings As a teenager I never was able to eat cereal in the mornings because I'd vomit. I'd do the same thing with tea. Dairy always makes me feel nervous. Wheat doesn't act the same way on me. I just did a bad thing and ate a dark chocolate candy bar. It doesn't have too much casein in it or, atleast I hope it doesn't. It will be somewhat difficult but, I think you can manage not to eat dairy again. Some rice & soy products still contain casein. I'd go for the brands that are GFCF. It seems that gluten-free gets more attention than casein-free. <nathaninfortuna@...> wrote: You left school?I left school becuase I could not tolerate the environments i was put in. It was horrible though it was not understood. I got all A's and

was on the deans list befre in a private christian college prep school.I was told in high school by the tester I just missed being offered the gifted program. That might have taken me out of the conditions of the regular class rooms.Also dairy reduces clearity, I didn't eat any today. I hope to never eat it again.> >> > I am impatient and do not want to wait months to have societal > > participations. Two organizations do not understand that > > participating is important and I cannot do it on my own it seems.>

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That's a big issue for me as well. My stomach doesn't like dairy at all. In the mornings As a teenager I never was able to eat cereal in the mornings because I'd vomit. I'd do the same thing with tea. Dairy always makes me feel nervous. Wheat doesn't act the same way on me. I just did a bad thing and ate a dark chocolate candy bar. It doesn't have too much casein in it or, atleast I hope it doesn't. It will be somewhat difficult but, I think you can manage not to eat dairy again. Some rice & soy products still contain casein. I'd go for the brands that are GFCF. It seems that gluten-free gets more attention than casein-free. <nathaninfortuna@...> wrote: You left school?I left school becuase I could not tolerate the environments i was put in. It was horrible though it was not understood. I got all A's and

was on the deans list befre in a private christian college prep school.I was told in high school by the tester I just missed being offered the gifted program. That might have taken me out of the conditions of the regular class rooms.Also dairy reduces clearity, I didn't eat any today. I hope to never eat it again.> >> > I am impatient and do not want to wait months to have societal > > participations. Two organizations do not understand that > > participating is important and I cannot do it on my own it seems.>

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Yes they have several colleges here.. I want to join to try out what they do. I can be incessantly and near obsessively a perfectionist as long as what need to be done is similar in method. For instance changing classes to a new teacher and new method just changes everything. I would like to get textbooks and read through it and while doing it making extensive notes. Then at times going into class and listening to the professor teach. My methods of study I learn more, retain more and is of much greater detail then that of the average student. Also anything lower then an A is not acceptable otherwise I just give up. Perfectionist with OCD beneficial tendencies… On Wrong Planet we talked about drugs, I am not a drug addict. As far as emotion I can act completely

goofy and make up personas like Jim Carry. I would go on the microphone and share that but I am not sure of the jokes I would say. Anyone have anything they want me to say? beth sullivan <dksunglsses@...> wrote: Hi , Well you can be social here with us, at least its a start, Im not sure what they have in your area, but I know in mine there are some suport groups for people with as, there are also social groups where you can learn to interact socially. I know this may be farfetched, but I am learning that recovering addicts have the same proplems with do with emotions, handling them dealing with them and feeling them. That may be an option. Also have you tried an online course, or a community

college, to get your foot in the door., on a college campus you would have more oportunity for social interactions. Beth __________________________________________________

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, Have you ever thought about going into accounting or science, You may want to find a field where it is to your benefit to be a perfectionist. Work towards your strenghts, make a list of them and see what job fields fit. You might be able to take the kind of class where you can learn on your own and just show up for tests, or you might find in some of the classes the teachers are perfectionists also and love to have a student just like them, but a lot of teachers don't require you to go to class as long as you know the material and show up for tests. You are a really smart guy and I know you can find a place to fit in where you feel comfortable and your mind wont go to waste. Maybe the medical field, or in medical

research. Take care, Beth Young <nathaninfortuna@...> wrote: Yes they have several colleges here.. I want to join to try out what they do. I can be incessantly and near obsessively a perfectionist as long as what need to be done is similar in method.For instance changing classes to a new teacher and new method just changes everything. I would like to get textbooks and read through it and while doing it making extensive notes. Then at times going into class and listening to the professor

teach.My methods of study I learn more, retain more and is of much greater detail then that of the average student. Also anything lower then an A is not acceptable otherwise I just give up.Perfectionist with OCD beneficial tendencies… On Wrong Planet we talked about drugs, I am not a drug addict. As far as emotion I can act completely goofy and make up personas like Jim Carry. I would go on the microphone and share that but I am not sure of the jokes I would say. Anyone have anything they want me to say?beth sullivan <dksunglsses@...> wrote: Hi , Well you can be social here with

us, at least its a start, Im not sure what they have in your area, but I know in mine there are some suport groups for people with as, there are also social groups where you can learn to interact socially. I know this may be farfetched, but I am learning that recovering addicts have the same proplems with do with emotions, handling them dealing with them and feeling them. That may be an option. Also have you tried an online course, or a community college, to get your foot in the door., on a college campus you would have more oportunity for social interactions. Beth __________________________________________________

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I just got a $250 biology book for $10 including shipping, I am just exploring.beth sullivan <dksunglsses@...> wrote: , Have you ever thought about going into accounting or science, You may want to find a field where it is to your benefit to be a perfectionist. Work towards your strenghts, make a list of them and see what job fields fit. You might be able to take the kind of class where you can learn on your own and just show up for tests, or you might find in some of the classes the teachers are perfectionists also and love to have a student just like them, but a lot of teachers don't require you to go to class as long as you know the material and show up for

tests. You are a really smart guy and I know you can find a place to fit in where you feel comfortable and your mind wont go to waste. Maybe the medical field, or in medical research. Take care, Beth

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