Re: 'Natural' Diet

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In a message dated 3/8/2006 1:09:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rainbow@... writes:

> : "I'm the Lord......"

Ahhh, the truth is out!

LOL!!!

I don't recall saying that.

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> From the Book of :

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> 1:8 But purposed in his heart that he would not defile

himself

> with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he

> drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he

> might not defile himself.

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> 1:12 Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them

give

> us pulse to eat, and water to drink.

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> 1:13 Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and the

> countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's

> meat: and as thou seest, deal with thy servants.

>

> 1:15 And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer

> and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the

portion

> of the king's meat.

>

> Besides Genesis, this was one of the Biblical passages that led me

to

> vegetarianism.

>

I respect people who become vegetarians because they don't want to

eat animals. It wasn't God's purpose in the beginning for animals to

be eaten as we can see from Genesis. After the flood for whatever

reason, possibly for health reasons, God allowed animals to be eaten.

Many people do not do well on a long-term vegetarian diet--myself

included, I would want to not eat animals and I've tried but I found

I have to have meat, especially beef for my health. There are

scriptures in the bible that show that God intends to bring things

back to his original purpose for humans and the earth, including

animals not being eaten (see Isaiah 11:6-9). However, this passage in

is not supporting vegetarianism. When Nebuchadnezzar the king

of Babylon, took some of the nobles' children of the Israelites after

conquering Israel, to train in the Babylonian ways-- being one

of them--he fed them things which considered delicasies, would be

forbidden for Jews, and and his three companions took a stand

by not eating them, and eating vegetables instead, which were safe.

Other bible versions for verse 8: 'delicasies of the king'-

NWT, 'king's dainties'-WEB, 'king's dainties'-ASV, 'king's delicate

food' 'king's food'-WBS. It's more likely that they did so well on

this diet because of God's blessing on their stand, than that the

vegetables themselves were better for them.

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> Since one can eat meat (under some passages) but blood is

> forbidden, the bible must have a particular meaning to this.

>

Blood is sacred to God, the life he gave is in the blood:

Gen 9:4 " Only flesh with it's soul--its blood--you must not eat. "

Lev. 17:14 " For the soul of every sort of flesh is its blood by the

soul in it. Consequently I said to the sons of Israel: 'You must not

eat the blood of any sort of flesh, because the soul of every sort of

flesh is in its blood. "

Lev. 7:26,27 " And you must not eat any blood in any places where you

dwell, whether that of fowl or that of beast. Any soul who eats any

blood, that soul must be cut off from his people. "

Acts 15:28,29 " For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored

adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to

keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and

from things strangled and from fornication. If you carefully keep

yourselves from these things, you will prosper. "

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Sorry for joining the conversation late (and not knowing what transpired in

the thread)....

I read a book called the " Maker's Diet " . It's a diet based on the Bible.

It's basically a Kosher version of the Weston A Price diet. It's far from

being a vegetarian diet. I pretty much try to follow the Weston A Price diet

- properly prepared natural foods and an adequate intake of fat and fat

soluble vitamins.

http://www.makersdiet.com/

http://www.westonaprice.org/

Dan

> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:39:14 -0000

> From: environmental1st2003

> Subject: Re: 'Natural' Diet

>

> Not that I know of.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

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>

> I am getting confused with this whole topic - out of interest

> was Jesus a vegetarian?

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[Guest guest]

" There are no universal diet rules that will have the same effect on

everyone. Some guidance can be found in Ayur-Veda,

whttp://health.indiamart.com/ayurveda/tridosha.html hich helps you find

your body-type and what kind of food is best for each type, but one may

still need to modify it to suit one's unique needs - especially if you

have many food sensitivities etc. "

>

I'm a perfect Vata and using that as a guide has helped me a lot.

Though, like you said, you have to find what is best for your

particular self. Carb addiction, sugar addiction among other things can

disrupt your body's signals to you telling you what is right for you

because you'll only think of bread bread bread, carbs carbs, soda soda

candy or things like these.

[Guest guest]

>> What about Bible contradictions, such as those listed at

> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-

contradictions.html

> ?

I once spent several hours with a list like this that a Muslim man had

given me, researching the contradictions and providing explanations. I

was able to answer all but two. I presented it to him, only to have him

toss it out in a very aggravated way--he had not expected me to answer

him, and I was in such a hurry to get back to him that I didn't make a

copy. I would research them again for you if I was sure you did want me

to, and are not just using the contradiction argument as a reason to

dismiss the bible.

[Guest guest]

> Rainbow: "Of course, disobeying God's laws gives them plenty of time to confess their sins and receive God's forgiveness, just before their pot luck picnic, right?" > : "Now this is bordering on the offensive. How about a little vegetarian tolerance for us meat eaters?"No offensive meant , just being 'logical'. For Pete's sake, I do not judge you, or anyone. Be yourself.  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

> : "I tried a vegetarian diet for about 2 months and all I succeeded in doing was losing close to 25 pounds....."What's your secret? I sure could stand to lose those 25 pounds!  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

> : "I'm the Lord......"Ahhh, the truth is out!LOL!!!  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

>>

> I wonder how he would have reacted had you given him a list of

> contradictions in the Koran?

>

>

Based on the way this guy was acting HE guy probably would have

screamed and yelled and told me to go away (even if a man had given the

contradictions to him and not a woman as myself), but another hopefully

would have considered them. A lot depends on what country they're from

and how they were raised. A Jordanian Muslim would have reacted

differently no doubt, than someone raised in a more fundamental way, in

a more fundamental area.

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>

>

> I wonder how he would have reacted had you given him a list of

> contradictions in the Koran?

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>

P.S. Sure wish it was Cat s (forgot his Muslim name) that I had

talked to instead of this guy that I did! I LOVE Cat s--what a

gentle soul.

[Guest guest]

Re:

> I wonder how he would have reacted had you given him a list of contradictions

>in the Koran?

Muslims really don't like that (partly because somewhere in the Koran

it says that the Koran has no contradictions). But if you want to see

Koran contradictions, a pretty good list of them appears on-line at

http://www.secularislam.org/guide/mirza.htm

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[Guest guest]

I'm wondering if cheese and nuts were in this diet - as full fat cheese

is full of fat as are nuts I believe?

>

> > : " I tried a vegetarian diet for about 2 months and all I

> succeeded in doing was losing close to 25 pounds..... "

>

> What's your secret?

>

> I sure could stand to lose those 25 pounds!

>

> Rainbow

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/8/2006 7:55:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, inglori@... writes:

You did, actually. I assumed it was just a typo, that you meant probably meant "And the Lord..."

Unless it was a Freudian slip..? ;-))

(Sorry, couldn't resist that little friendly joke.)

Inger

Found it. I left out the "sure". That sentence should read: "I'm sure the Lord..."

No, I'm neither that crazy nor arrogant.

[Guest guest]

You did, actually. I assumed it was just a typo, that you meant probably meant "And the Lord..."

Unless it was a Freudian slip..? ;-))

(Sorry, couldn't resist that little friendly joke.)

Inger

Re: 'Natural' Diet

In a message dated 3/8/2006 1:09:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rainbow@... writes:

> : "I'm the Lord......"

Ahhh, the truth is out!

LOL!!!

I don't recall saying that.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/8/2006 10:43:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, inglori@... writes:

We know that, . It was just too funny a typo to leave un-joked about.

Inger

I know, just making sure

[Guest guest]

We know that, . It was just too funny a typo to leave un-joked about.

Inger

Re: Re: 'Natural' Diet

In a message dated 3/8/2006 7:55:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, inglori@... writes:

You did, actually. I assumed it was just a typo, that you meant probably meant "And the Lord..."

Unless it was a Freudian slip..? ;-))

(Sorry, couldn't resist that little friendly joke.)

Inger

Found it. I left out the "sure". That sentence should read: "I'm sure the Lord..."

No, I'm neither that crazy nor arrogant.

[Guest guest]

It was funny!

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> We know that, . It was just too funny a typo to leave un-

joked about.

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> Inger

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> In a message dated 3/8/2006 7:55:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

inglori@... writes:

> You did, actually. I assumed it was just a typo, that you meant

probably meant " And the Lord... "

>

> Unless it was a Freudian slip..? ;-))

>

> (Sorry, couldn't resist that little friendly joke.)

>

> Inger

> Found it. I left out the " sure " . That sentence should read: " I'm

sure the Lord... "

>

> No, I'm neither that crazy nor arrogant.

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