Re: Pentagon mulling 'stealth sharks' to patrol the seas

[Guest guest]

I disagree with your disagreement with my wanting to be disagreed

with.

> > > >

> > > > > Ender: " I guess that the " ...community based on respect,

> > > > friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. " Is

> only

> > > true

> > > > if you agree with the views of the powers that be... Any time

I

> > > say

> > > > something you guys take issue with it... "

> > > >

> > > > Boy, Ender, I couldn't agree with you more!

> > > >

> > > > Just yesterday I wrote a long detailed response directed

> to " the

> > > > powers that be " as the most bigoted people I have ever known.

> > > >

> > > > Bigotry: Intolerance towards those who hold different

opinions

> > > from

> > > > oneself.

> > > >

> > > > I deleted it unsent knowing that I would again be invited to

> > leave

> > > > the group.

> > > >

> > > > I haven't been posting for exactly this reason: " Any time I

> say

> > > > something you guys take issue with it... "

> > > >

> > > > I have been treated here like a child who doesn't know

> anything,

> > so

> > > I

> > > > have come to care less and less about participating.

> > > >

> > > > Rainbow

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I believe plants, have a " life force " at the very least, although I

cannot define what this is exactly. I will say that I have always

enjoyed caring for flowers, vegetables, bushes, and trees.

I like to see them grow healthy and strong, and I hate to see them get

removed.

Tom

Administrator

Thing is I believe plants do feel pain - I think it has kind of been

proven. I believe every living thing has some sort of feeling though.

[Guest guest]

Yeah - I get what you're saying - but can't they leave some in the

ground - do they have to dig them all up - and once they are out of

the ground - are they dead?

Like I said I think too much and btw - I'm not vegetarian, but I do

like to think that all living things could have a nice life - bit

idealistic I know.

>

> Re:

>

>

> > It would kind of be nice if they did let some reach the >end of

their

> > life cycle and only take a percentage for food - we >have way too

much

> > food in the west anyway.

>

> Well, then, I guess you would never eat hearts-of-palm salad - they

> have to kill the whole palm to get the heart.

> And I guess you probably don't care to eat carrots or other

> root-/rhizome plants (turnips, potatoes, ginger ... ), because

> removing the root kills the plant.

>

>

> Yours for better letters,

> Kate Gladstone

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[Guest guest]

I can't help it - but now I am having mental images of trying to

resusatate a carrot :-) 'Quick the carrot's crashed - stand clear' :-)

> >

> > Re:

> >

> > > LOL! How do vegetables die a peaceful, natural death?

> >

> > Often, if let alone, they go to seed and reach the end of their

> life-cycle.

> > But we don't normally let veggies alone.

> > We eat broccoli (a bunch of green flower-buds) before it

> flowers

> > - leave it alone to blossom, and it looks a weird green-brownish

> > half-wilted yellow and loses a lot of its nutrients and good taste

> > (or, at least, what tastes like " good taste " to those of us who,

> like

> > me, actually like eating broccoli)

> > Similarly, cloves and capers (two spices often used in

> preserved

> > meat and other foods) consist of unopened flower-buds from the

> > tropical clove-tree and the Mediterranean caper-bush. Leave them

> alone

> > to blossom, and they make the air smell sweet but they don't taste

> > good at that stage.

> >

> > > And are they

> > > edible in that state, whatever it is?

> >

> > It depends on how much time has elapsed since their death-date,

and

> on

> > the species. Some plants don't live very long at all after they

> seed -

> > they just die and rot. Others live but don't taste that good

and/or

> > don't nourish one very well.

> >

> >

> > Yours for better letters,

> > Kate Gladstone

> > Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

> > handwritingrepair@

> > http://learn.to/handwrite,

> http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

> > 325 South Manning Boulevard

> > Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

> > telephone 518/482-6763

> > AND REMEMBER ...

> > you can order books through my site!

> > (Amazon.com link -

> > I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Now I am getting confused :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ender: " I guess that the " ...community based on

respect,

> > > > > friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. " Is

> > only

> > > > true

> > > > > if you agree with the views of the powers that be... Any

time

> I

> > > > say

> > > > > something you guys take issue with it... "

> > > > >

> > > > > Boy, Ender, I couldn't agree with you more!

> > > > >

> > > > > Just yesterday I wrote a long detailed response directed

> > to " the

> > > > > powers that be " as the most bigoted people I have ever

known.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bigotry: Intolerance towards those who hold different

> opinions

> > > > from

> > > > > oneself.

> > > > >

> > > > > I deleted it unsent knowing that I would again be invited

to

> > > leave

> > > > > the group.

> > > > >

> > > > > I haven't been posting for exactly this reason: " Any time I

> > say

> > > > > something you guys take issue with it... "

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been treated here like a child who doesn't know

> > anything,

> > > so

> > > > I

> > > > > have come to care less and less about participating.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rainbow

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with your disagreement with 's disagreement with your

wanting to be diagreed with. I hope this is not disagreeable to you.

Tom

> >

> > Sometimes I wish people would disagree with me so we can discuss

> and both learn.

> >

[Guest guest]

I agree with your disagreement with 's disagreement with your

wanting to be diagreed with. I hope this is not disagreeable to you.

Tom

> >

> > Sometimes I wish people would disagree with me so we can discuss

> and both learn.

> >

[Guest guest]

I sense the life force too and can 'feel' when plants are stressed.

During a time of drought I felt the distress to a great degree. But I

don't believe they are sentient (but what do I know).

>

> Thing is I believe plants do feel pain - I think it has kind of been

> proven. I believe every living thing has some sort of feeling

though.

>

[Guest guest]

> : "I think I think too much"How much is too much?  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

> (I think): "It would kind of be nice if they did let some reach the end of their life cycle and only take a percentage for food"Raven could better elucidate. The native peoples here did just that. Bulbs that were dug up from the land that was itself their 'garden' were separated and several corms were replanted to provide the following years sustenance.Sustainability forever!  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

> (I think): "It would kind of be nice if they did let some reach the end of their life cycle and only take a percentage for food"Raven could better elucidate. The native peoples here did just that. Bulbs that were dug up from the land that was itself their 'garden' were separated and several corms were replanted to provide the following years sustenance.Sustainability forever!  Rainbow

[Guest guest]

> Tom: "I will say that I have always enjoyed caring for flowers, vegetables, bushes, and trees."And they have asked me to let you know that they have as much enjoyed caring for you, Tom!   Rainbow

[Guest guest]

> Tom: "I will say that I have always enjoyed caring for flowers, vegetables, bushes, and trees."And they have asked me to let you know that they have as much enjoyed caring for you, Tom!   Rainbow

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure - let me think about it :-)

>

> > : " I think I think too much "

>

> How much is too much?

>

> Rainbow

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure - let me think about it :-)

>

> > : " I think I think too much "

>

> How much is too much?

>

> Rainbow

>

[Guest guest]

I disagree with you completely!

>

> Sometimes I wish people would disagree with me so we can discuss and

> both learn.

>

> --- In , " greebohere "

><SNIP>

[Guest guest]

Are you disagreeing to disagree or agreeing to disagree?

> >

> > Sometimes I wish people would disagree with me so we can discuss

and

> > both learn.

> >

> > --- In , " greebohere "

> ><SNIP>

>

[Guest guest]

Are you disagreeing to disagree or agreeing to disagree?

> >

> > Sometimes I wish people would disagree with me so we can discuss

and

> > both learn.

> >

> > --- In , " greebohere "

> ><SNIP>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes! (note: I write software for a living, and you asked an OR

question)

> > >

> > > Sometimes I wish people would disagree with me so we can discuss

> and

> > > both learn.

> > >

> > > --- In , " greebohere "

> > ><SNIP>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes! (note: I write software for a living, and you asked an OR

question)

> > >

> > > Sometimes I wish people would disagree with me so we can discuss

> and

> > > both learn.

> > >

> > > --- In , " greebohere "

> > ><SNIP>

> >

>