Re: Lescol and High triglicerides

[Guest guest]

Joe...not I have not heard of that med, but if all

the dr. wants you to do is lower your triglycerides

try taking cinnamon capsules...take 3 capsules a day

and then have another blood work up done for your

dr.

When he sees that your triglycerides have gone down

he will probably ask what you did to lower it.

He will be shocked when you tell him it was done

with cinnamom... but then he should know this already.

Ed - moderator

>

> Hello all,

>

> I stopped taking Lipitor about a yaer ago. I told my docs that stuff

> was crippling me.

>

> Lately I have been having Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. My

> doctors checked my Gall Bladder out and it is OK.

>

> Now my doctor is telling me that my fatty liver and my high

> triglicerides (460) in combination with my type II diabetes can

> cause Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. Apparently, I do not process

> fat well.

>

> In any event, he is suggesting I start using Lescol. He says Lescol

> is especially good at lowering high triglicerides without the bad

> side effects of lipitor and some of the other statins.

>

> Has anybody heard of Lescol?

>

> Has anybody heard about how high triglicerides in combination with

> Diabetes can cause Gall Bladder attack symptoms?

>

> Any info would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Joe

> He is sugge

>

[Guest guest]

Joe...not I have not heard of that med, but if all

the dr. wants you to do is lower your triglycerides

try taking cinnamon capsules...take 3 capsules a day

and then have another blood work up done for your

dr.

When he sees that your triglycerides have gone down

he will probably ask what you did to lower it.

He will be shocked when you tell him it was done

with cinnamom... but then he should know this already.

Ed - moderator

>

> Hello all,

>

> I stopped taking Lipitor about a yaer ago. I told my docs that stuff

> was crippling me.

>

> Lately I have been having Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. My

> doctors checked my Gall Bladder out and it is OK.

>

> Now my doctor is telling me that my fatty liver and my high

> triglicerides (460) in combination with my type II diabetes can

> cause Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. Apparently, I do not process

> fat well.

>

> In any event, he is suggesting I start using Lescol. He says Lescol

> is especially good at lowering high triglicerides without the bad

> side effects of lipitor and some of the other statins.

>

> Has anybody heard of Lescol?

>

> Has anybody heard about how high triglicerides in combination with

> Diabetes can cause Gall Bladder attack symptoms?

>

> Any info would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Joe

> He is sugge

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe,

In addition to 3 cinnamon capsules avoid the "white foods" .

The "white foods"are the primary source of high triglycerides

and type II diabetes: * Sugar (biggest offender), rice, potato, flour, bread.Pasta is the least likely to cause elevated triglycerides.

Replace these foods with whole grains and complex carbs:

Brown/wild rice, steel, barley, buckwheat, millet, sprouted

grains bread, sweet potato, spelt flour. Stevia is the healthiest

sugar substitute. Cinnamon (C. cassia - spice isle variety) helps to control bothtriglycerides and blood sugar levels. Available in 500 mg capsules(Walmart, etc) - take one or three daily in addition to avoiding thewhite foods. If you can't find the capsules, 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoondaily added to food or beverage.

Lescol (Fluvastatin sodium) is usually prescribed to lower LDL

and increase good HDL and not usually prescribed to lower

triglycerides. A high carbohydrate diet, which is what most are

driven to when the Dr says, "Eat a healthy diet", aka low fat -

low cholesterol, is the primary cause for high triglycerides.

Informative article about fatty liver...

Overweight, diabetes and high triglycerides cause fatty liver, not

the other way around. Fatty liver does not usually produce any

symptoms.

Re: Lately I have been having Gall Bladder attack like symptoms.

My doctors checked my Gall Bladder out and it is OK.

What test(s) did your Dr order to "check out your gall bladder?

Re: Now my doctor is telling me that my fatty liver and my high triglycerides (460) in combination with my type II diabetes can cause Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. Apparently, I do not

process fat well.It's more like you are not processing carbohydrates, hence your

high triglycerides and Type II diabetes.

Fran

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe,

In addition to 3 cinnamon capsules avoid the "white foods" .

The "white foods"are the primary source of high triglycerides

and type II diabetes: * Sugar (biggest offender), rice, potato, flour, bread.Pasta is the least likely to cause elevated triglycerides.

Replace these foods with whole grains and complex carbs:

Brown/wild rice, steel, barley, buckwheat, millet, sprouted

grains bread, sweet potato, spelt flour. Stevia is the healthiest

sugar substitute. Cinnamon (C. cassia - spice isle variety) helps to control bothtriglycerides and blood sugar levels. Available in 500 mg capsules(Walmart, etc) - take one or three daily in addition to avoiding thewhite foods. If you can't find the capsules, 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoondaily added to food or beverage.

Lescol (Fluvastatin sodium) is usually prescribed to lower LDL

and increase good HDL and not usually prescribed to lower

triglycerides. A high carbohydrate diet, which is what most are

driven to when the Dr says, "Eat a healthy diet", aka low fat -

low cholesterol, is the primary cause for high triglycerides.

Informative article about fatty liver...

Overweight, diabetes and high triglycerides cause fatty liver, not

the other way around. Fatty liver does not usually produce any

symptoms.

Re: Lately I have been having Gall Bladder attack like symptoms.

My doctors checked my Gall Bladder out and it is OK.

What test(s) did your Dr order to "check out your gall bladder?

Re: Now my doctor is telling me that my fatty liver and my high triglycerides (460) in combination with my type II diabetes can cause Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. Apparently, I do not

process fat well.It's more like you are not processing carbohydrates, hence your

high triglycerides and Type II diabetes.

Fran

[Guest guest]

Joe, not sure about all that. My husband took zocor and had pains, they to did a test on his gall bladder and said it was fine, well less then 8 months, later, they finally said oh it is your gall bladder so had it out in January. He still has pain. He to is a diabetic 2. We no longer take a statin, and all docs know not to even mention it, and if they do, they get home and then burned. He takes his blood sugar med, and other than that, he takes is anti-acid pill, we are mostly on supplements and vitamins. he has took cinnamon for a while, and it did lower his trig, cholesterol, and LDL, did not raise his HDL up much. and the blood sugar I cannot remember it lowered it as well. I posted all that info before about when his results were before the cinnamon and then after, I even looked at our family dr and said look what the cinnamon did that all those poisons could not do, he never said a word.... His pain for the gall bladder was on the left side, mine was on the right. they said his was not functioning real good. Good luckJudyinMO Lescol and High trigliceridesHello all,I stopped taking Lipitor about a yaer ago. I told my docs that stuff was crippling me. Lately I have been having Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. My doctors checked my Gall Bladder out and it is OK.Now my doctor is telling me that my fatty liver and my high triglicerides (460) in combination with my type II diabetes can cause Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. Apparently, I do not process fat well.In any event, he is suggesting I start using Lescol. He says Lescol is especially good at lowering high triglicerides without the bad side effects of lipitor and some of the other statins.Has anybody heard of Lescol? Has anybody heard about how high triglicerides in combination with Diabetes can cause Gall Bladder attack symptoms?Any info would be appreciated.Thanks,JoeHe is sugge

[Guest guest]

Joe, not sure about all that. My husband took zocor and had pains, they to did a test on his gall bladder and said it was fine, well less then 8 months, later, they finally said oh it is your gall bladder so had it out in January. He still has pain. He to is a diabetic 2. We no longer take a statin, and all docs know not to even mention it, and if they do, they get home and then burned. He takes his blood sugar med, and other than that, he takes is anti-acid pill, we are mostly on supplements and vitamins. he has took cinnamon for a while, and it did lower his trig, cholesterol, and LDL, did not raise his HDL up much. and the blood sugar I cannot remember it lowered it as well. I posted all that info before about when his results were before the cinnamon and then after, I even looked at our family dr and said look what the cinnamon did that all those poisons could not do, he never said a word.... His pain for the gall bladder was on the left side, mine was on the right. they said his was not functioning real good. Good luckJudyinMO Lescol and High trigliceridesHello all,I stopped taking Lipitor about a yaer ago. I told my docs that stuff was crippling me. Lately I have been having Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. My doctors checked my Gall Bladder out and it is OK.Now my doctor is telling me that my fatty liver and my high triglicerides (460) in combination with my type II diabetes can cause Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. Apparently, I do not process fat well.In any event, he is suggesting I start using Lescol. He says Lescol is especially good at lowering high triglicerides without the bad side effects of lipitor and some of the other statins.Has anybody heard of Lescol? Has anybody heard about how high triglicerides in combination with Diabetes can cause Gall Bladder attack symptoms?Any info would be appreciated.Thanks,JoeHe is sugge

[Guest guest]

I agree Fran... avoid everything that is WHITE.

I used to be a BREADaholic...could not live without

bread for years. I am positive that is why my tri's

were so high. I now rarely eat bread and with the

cinnamon... I bet my numbers are well...

I am seeing a new dr. in November and I am sure the

first thing he wants me to do after seeing my medical

history is get a complete blood work up. Cannot wait

to see my numbers then.

Ed

>

> Hi Joe,

>

> In addition to 3 cinnamon capsules avoid the " white foods " .

> The " white foods " are the primary source of high triglycerides

> and type II diabetes:

> * Sugar (biggest offender), rice, potato, flour, bread.

> Pasta is the least likely to cause elevated triglycerides.

> Replace these foods with whole grains and complex carbs:

> Brown/wild rice, steel, barley, buckwheat, millet, sprouted

> grains bread, sweet potato, spelt flour. Stevia is the healthiest

> sugar substitute.

>

> Cinnamon (C. cassia - spice isle variety) helps to control both

> triglycerides and blood sugar levels. Available in 500 mg capsules

> (Walmart, etc) - take one or three daily in addition to avoiding

the

> white foods. If you can't find the capsules, 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon

> daily added to food or beverage.

>

> Lescol (Fluvastatin sodium) is usually prescribed to lower LDL

> and increase good HDL and not usually prescribed to lower

> triglycerides. A high carbohydrate diet, which is what most are

> driven to when the Dr says, " Eat a healthy diet " , aka low fat -

> low cholesterol, is the primary cause for high triglycerides.

>

> Informative article about fatty liver...

> Overweight, diabetes and high triglycerides cause fatty liver, not

> the other way around. Fatty liver does not usually produce any

> symptoms.

>

> Re: Lately I have been having Gall Bladder attack like symptoms.

> My doctors checked my Gall Bladder out and it is OK.

> What test(s) did your Dr order to " check out your gall bladder?

>

> Re: Now my doctor is telling me that my fatty liver and my high

> triglycerides (460) in combination with my type II diabetes can

> cause Gall Bladder attack like symptoms. Apparently, I do not

> process fat well.

> It's more like you are not processing carbohydrates, hence your

> high triglycerides and Type II diabetes.

>

> Fran

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Joe

I could'nt believe you had written about gall bladder problems as I was going to write something similar.

A week ago I was diagnosed with gallstones and have been in terrible pain. It seems that statins can cause this problem, or, if you have a small problem they can make it a lot worse because it causes more cholesterol to accumilate in the gall bladder. I thought my IBS was playing me up for the last about 10 months, and when I went on a statin that was the first time I experienced pain like this. Now, until I can have sugery to take my gall bladder out I can't eat fats...any fats I was told, or my gall bladder will flare up and I will be admitted to hospital as an emergency (may not be a bad idea with the waiting lists in the UK!). So, I am surviving on skimmed (no fat) milk, cereals and a few spoonfuls of soup. I guess losing weight will help my cholesterol levels but I'm feeling so weak and dizzy. I never thought gallstones were so painful, I thought I was having a heart attack!

I'm sorry I don't know anything about the drugs you mention, but I thought I would share my experience with regards to gall bladder problems and statins.

Take care

[Guest guest]

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helps. C.MauroTreacleBears@... wrote: Hello Joe I could'nt believe you had written about gall bladder problems as I was going to write something similar. A week ago I was diagnosed with gallstones and have been in terrible pain. It seems that statins can cause this problem, or, if you have a small problem they can make it a lot worse because it causes more cholesterol to accumilate in the gall bladder. I thought my IBS was playing me up for the last about 10 months, and when I went on a statin that was the first time I experienced pain like this. Now, until I can have sugery to take my gall bladder out I can't eat fats...any fats I was told, or my gall bladder will flare up and I will be admitted to hospital as an emergency (may not be a bad idea with the waiting lists in the UK!). So, I am surviving on skimmed (no fat) milk,

cereals and a few spoonfuls of soup. I guess losing weight will help my cholesterol levels but I'm feeling so weak and dizzy. I never thought gallstones were so painful, I thought I was having a heart attack! I'm sorry I don't know anything about the drugs you mention, but I thought I would share my experience with regards to gall bladder problems and statins. Take care

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[Guest guest]

Thanksfor the info Suzan,

They tested me for Gall Bladder problems and found none. They are

claiming that the fatty liver that I have along with high triglicerides

can cause gall Bladder like problems.

On a totally different subjet: Do people in the UK have to pay for their

own medical care ore does the state pay for it? You mentioned long lines

and waiting. We have that here too.

Joe

TreacleBears@... wrote:

> Hello Joe

>

> I could'nt believe you had written about gall bladder problems as I

> was going to write something similar.

>

> A week ago I was diagnosed with gallstones and have been in terrible

> pain. It seems that statins can cause this problem, or, if you have

> a small problem they can make it a lot worse because it causes more

> cholesterol to accumilate in the gall bladder. I thought my IBS was

> playing me up for the last about 10 months, and when I went on a

> statin that was the first time I experienced pain like this. Now,

> until I can have sugery to take my gall bladder out I can't eat

> fats...any fats I was told, or my gall bladder will flare up and I

> will be admitted to hospital as an emergency (may not be a bad idea

> with the waiting lists in the UK!). So, I am surviving on skimmed (no

> fat) milk, cereals and a few spoonfuls of soup. I guess losing weight

> will help my cholesterol levels but I'm feeling so weak and dizzy. I

> never thought gallstones were so painful, I thought I was having a

> heart attack!

>

> I'm sorry I don't know anything about the drugs you mention, but I

> thought I would share my experience with regards to gall bladder

> problems and statins.

>

> Take care

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe

Did you have an ultra sound to check your gall bladder? It's a very painful condition.

In the UK we have the National Health Service and don't have to pay for our treatment, though, unless you are on certain benefits you do have to pay for prescriptions, dental care and opticians. Some people go for private health care, like Bupa, and I had some private treatment once. In general, unless your case is urgent you have to wait on the list. But urgent cases are treated immediately!

I see my Dr tomorrow so we shall see what he thinks...I'm just hoping he does'nt press hard on my liver region:0