Re: Need help for my daughter who is in a regression and we cannot figure out wh

[Guest guest]

Tracey,

Just to add yet another possibility: how long has she been taking

garlic/allicin? asking because we had our son on crushed garlic for a

while and he also regressed slightly, which I now believe was due to its

anti-viral properties - I believe he had some sort of 'healing

regression' that lots of people here see with Valtrex or OLE. She might

actually be fighting viruses with garlic, and not yeast! Our son

improved after we stopped garlic.

Natasa

>

> Tracey,

> The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and antivirals,

you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you happen

to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

problems in my son. -

>

>

> >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@...

> >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> >mb12 valtrex

> >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

regression and we cannot figure out why

>

> >

> >

> > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

daughter

> >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her spaciness

> >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2 months

> >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

valtrex

> >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and MB12.

> >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many order

> >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the amino

> >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory and

> >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She was

> >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia and

> >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I decided

to

> >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic florastar.

> >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach aches

> >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her back

> >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it well

and

> >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has continued

> >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would be

> >greatly appreciated.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Natasa,

THanks for your input. I just recently thought of the same hunch that

maybe she was having a healing regression. I am desparate to fight the

bacteria though wihich is the reaon we used the garlic in the first

place. I would like to avoid flagyl as it increased yeast in my son.

Anyway, did you finally quit using the garlic due to the regression or

did your son finally come through the regression. THe other thought I

had was to fight the virus harder so I added ole and laurreaux which is

also an antiviral . I think things are getting better for her. I am

just not sure how long I should continue the Allicin. her stomach aches

have subsided greatly since we began the allicin. What did you switch

to when you stopped using the garlic?

lTHanks again.

>

> Tracey,

>

> Just to add yet another possibility: how long has she been taking

> garlic/allicin? asking because we had our son on crushed garlic for a

> while and he also regressed slightly, which I now believe was due to

its

> anti-viral properties - I believe he had some sort of 'healing

> regression' that lots of people here see with Valtrex or OLE. She

might

> actually be fighting viruses with garlic, and not yeast! Our son

> improved after we stopped garlic.

>

> Natasa

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Tracey,

> > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

> isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

antivirals,

> you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you happen

> to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

> problems in my son. -

> >

> >

> > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > >mb12 valtrex

> > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> regression and we cannot figure out why

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> daughter

> > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

spaciness

> > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2 months

> > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

> valtrex

> > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and

MB12.

> > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many order

> > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the

amino

> > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory and

> > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She

was

> > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia

and

> > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I decided

> to

> > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

florastar.

> > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach aches

> > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her

back

> > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it well

> and

> > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has continued

> > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would be

> > >greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Natasa,

THanks for your input. I just recently thought of the same hunch that

maybe she was having a healing regression. I am desparate to fight the

bacteria though wihich is the reaon we used the garlic in the first

place. I would like to avoid flagyl as it increased yeast in my son.

Anyway, did you finally quit using the garlic due to the regression or

did your son finally come through the regression. THe other thought I

had was to fight the virus harder so I added ole and laurreaux which is

also an antiviral . I think things are getting better for her. I am

just not sure how long I should continue the Allicin. her stomach aches

have subsided greatly since we began the allicin. What did you switch

to when you stopped using the garlic?

lTHanks again.

>

> Tracey,

>

> Just to add yet another possibility: how long has she been taking

> garlic/allicin? asking because we had our son on crushed garlic for a

> while and he also regressed slightly, which I now believe was due to

its

> anti-viral properties - I believe he had some sort of 'healing

> regression' that lots of people here see with Valtrex or OLE. She

might

> actually be fighting viruses with garlic, and not yeast! Our son

> improved after we stopped garlic.

>

> Natasa

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Tracey,

> > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

> isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

antivirals,

> you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you happen

> to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

> problems in my son. -

> >

> >

> > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > >mb12 valtrex

> > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> regression and we cannot figure out why

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> daughter

> > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

spaciness

> > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2 months

> > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

> valtrex

> > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and

MB12.

> > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many order

> > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the

amino

> > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory and

> > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She

was

> > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia

and

> > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I decided

> to

> > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

florastar.

> > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach aches

> > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her

back

> > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it well

> and

> > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has continued

> > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would be

> > >greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

>

> >Spaciness, low

> > energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration

>

> food allergies? Have you done a IgG food panel recently?

>

>

>

THank you for your response and everyone else who responded to me. Yes

in the past 3 months we have done a food panel and she is not eating

anything to my knowledge she has problems with she is also on a GCF

and low sugard diet. I think what has happened is the garlic/cinnamone

compound threw her into a healing regression for viruses. We were

using it to treat clostridia. But we had stopped the other supplements

for 30 days and picked up after 2 weeks of giving her the allicin..

Anywya, perhaps she did not have enough support from other supplements

etc. but I think it threw her into a healing regression. We started

all supplements back about a week and half ago and she seems to slowly

becoming out of it. Moral of this story for us is I will not treat her

again for bacteria, or viruses with no other supplement support. Also

I began about 4 or 5 days ago to add back Laurreaux and ole to her

(virus fighters) diet. Hoping between all of these things we could

attack the virus. Anyway, progress is slow but she does seem to be

getting better. I have not given up on the Alicin though because I

need it to fight clostridia and I do not want to use Flagyl (it

increased yeast in my son) and we have worked too hard to get the

yeast way down for my daughter.

Thank you for all of you who responded to me I have been in a panic

the past week and a half.

[Guest guest]

>

> >Spaciness, low

> > energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration

>

> food allergies? Have you done a IgG food panel recently?

>

>

>

THank you for your response and everyone else who responded to me. Yes

in the past 3 months we have done a food panel and she is not eating

anything to my knowledge she has problems with she is also on a GCF

and low sugard diet. I think what has happened is the garlic/cinnamone

compound threw her into a healing regression for viruses. We were

using it to treat clostridia. But we had stopped the other supplements

for 30 days and picked up after 2 weeks of giving her the allicin..

Anywya, perhaps she did not have enough support from other supplements

etc. but I think it threw her into a healing regression. We started

all supplements back about a week and half ago and she seems to slowly

becoming out of it. Moral of this story for us is I will not treat her

again for bacteria, or viruses with no other supplement support. Also

I began about 4 or 5 days ago to add back Laurreaux and ole to her

(virus fighters) diet. Hoping between all of these things we could

attack the virus. Anyway, progress is slow but she does seem to be

getting better. I have not given up on the Alicin though because I

need it to fight clostridia and I do not want to use Flagyl (it

increased yeast in my son) and we have worked too hard to get the

yeast way down for my daughter.

Thank you for all of you who responded to me I have been in a panic

the past week and a half.

[Guest guest]

We also started garlic with the idea of fighting bacteria. Were not

prepared for anything of antiviral nature. Had to stop as were worried

as to what was going on, but also because he started figuring out there

was something funny going on with his cherry tomatoes. Started spitting

them out.

As I said we had no antiviral strategy in place so didn't continue on

anything. Also, when we stopped garlic his yeast (during garlic

treatment his poop got very yeasty and tongue was very white) issue got

better, more or less on its own. The only thing was SCD with very little

fruit and some probiotics. He stopped regressing after we pulled ALL

supplements he was on at the time.

While he was on garlic he was also on sac.b for his clostrida. His mood

was very good in the first week or two of this combo. When we upped

garlic and added a few B vitamins, as well as C, he started getting red

cheeks, runny nose, getting agressive etc. I suspect now that vitamins

in combination with garlic awakened his immune system...

have a look at this for antibacterial 'ideas':

http://www.ei-resource.org/anti-bacterial.asp

Best of luck!!!

Natasa

> > >

> > > Tracey,

> > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

> > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> antivirals,

> > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

happen

> > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

> > problems in my son. -

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > daughter

> > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> spaciness

> > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

months

> > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

> > valtrex

> > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and

> MB12.

> > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

order

> > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the

> amino

> > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory

and

> > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She

> was

> > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia

> and

> > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

decided

> > to

> > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> florastar.

> > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

aches

> > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her

> back

> > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

well

> > and

> > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

continued

> > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would

be

> > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

We also started garlic with the idea of fighting bacteria. Were not

prepared for anything of antiviral nature. Had to stop as were worried

as to what was going on, but also because he started figuring out there

was something funny going on with his cherry tomatoes. Started spitting

them out.

As I said we had no antiviral strategy in place so didn't continue on

anything. Also, when we stopped garlic his yeast (during garlic

treatment his poop got very yeasty and tongue was very white) issue got

better, more or less on its own. The only thing was SCD with very little

fruit and some probiotics. He stopped regressing after we pulled ALL

supplements he was on at the time.

While he was on garlic he was also on sac.b for his clostrida. His mood

was very good in the first week or two of this combo. When we upped

garlic and added a few B vitamins, as well as C, he started getting red

cheeks, runny nose, getting agressive etc. I suspect now that vitamins

in combination with garlic awakened his immune system...

have a look at this for antibacterial 'ideas':

http://www.ei-resource.org/anti-bacterial.asp

Best of luck!!!

Natasa

> > >

> > > Tracey,

> > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

> > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> antivirals,

> > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

happen

> > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

> > problems in my son. -

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > daughter

> > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> spaciness

> > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

months

> > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

> > valtrex

> > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and

> MB12.

> > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

order

> > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the

> amino

> > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory

and

> > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She

> was

> > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia

> and

> > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

decided

> > to

> > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> florastar.

> > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

aches

> > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her

> back

> > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

well

> > and

> > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

continued

> > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would

be

> > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

> > > >

> > > > Tracey,

> > > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

> > > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> > antivirals,

> > > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

> happen

> > > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

> > > problems in my son. -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > > daughter

> > > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> > spaciness

> > > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

> months

> > > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

> > > valtrex

> > > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and

> > MB12.

> > > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

> order

> > > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the

> > amino

> > > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory

> and

> > > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She

> > was

> > > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> > > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia

> > and

> > > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

> decided

> > > to

> > > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> > florastar.

> > > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

> aches

> > > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> > > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her

> > back

> > > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

> well

> > > and

> > > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

> continued

> > > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would

> be

> > > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

> > > >

> > > > Tracey,

> > > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

> > > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> > antivirals,

> > > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

> happen

> > > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

> > > problems in my son. -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > > daughter

> > > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> > spaciness

> > > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

> months

> > > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

> > > valtrex

> > > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and

> > MB12.

> > > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

> order

> > > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the

> > amino

> > > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory

> and

> > > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She

> > was

> > > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> > > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia

> > and

> > > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

> decided

> > > to

> > > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> > florastar.

> > > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

> aches

> > > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> > > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her

> > back

> > > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

> well

> > > and

> > > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

> continued

> > > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would

> be

> > > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

> > > >

> > > > Tracey,

> > > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

> > > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> > antivirals,

> > > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

> happen

> > > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

> > > problems in my son. -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > > daughter

> > > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> > spaciness

> > > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

> months

> > > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

> > > valtrex

> > > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and

> > MB12.

> > > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

> order

> > > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the

> > amino

> > > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory

> and

> > > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She

> > was

> > > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> > > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia

> > and

> > > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

> decided

> > > to

> > > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> > florastar.

> > > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

> aches

> > > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> > > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her

> > back

> > > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

> well

> > > and

> > > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

> continued

> > > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would

> be

> > > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

> > > >

> > > > Tracey,

> > > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and yeast

> > > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> > antivirals,

> > > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

> happen

> > > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those regressive

> > > problems in my son. -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > > daughter

> > > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> > spaciness

> > > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

> months

> > > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year took

> > > valtrex

> > > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor) and

> > MB12.

> > > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

> order

> > > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and the

> > amino

> > > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with memory

> and

> > > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days. She

> > was

> > > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed her

> > > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had clostridia

> > and

> > > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

> decided

> > > to

> > > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> > florastar.

> > > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

> aches

> > > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness, low

> > > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took her

> > back

> > > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

> well

> > > and

> > > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

> continued

> > > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights would

> be

> > > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

You are welcome. SCD is free from complex sugars, it allows honey and

fruit, including dried fruit. It is recommended you cut down of those

though while yeast is suspected.

The original SCD is not casein free, it is only lactose free, as it

wasn't created with autistic kids in mind. We are on casein-free version

of the diet (which is a shame because the home-made yogurth as per

Elaine is supposed to be great for balancing the gut bacteria). We also

tried goat-milk yogurt, which lots of kids tolerate fine, but that

didn't work for us either.

you can find out more on

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/autism/autism.htm and

www.pecanbread.com

Sac.boulardii is a type of 'friendly' yeast that is supposed to be great

help in fighting clostrida. I think it is easy to get hold of, just try

googling it. It is recommended you don't give it for long stretches of

time in case of compromised immune system (which most of our kids have),

some say a week at a time, some say a month is ok. I know people that

have used it for much longer than that with no problems but we chose to

stop after a month. Might restart at some point.

Hope this helps,

Natasa

> > > > >

> > > > > Tracey,

> > > > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and

yeast

> > > > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> > > antivirals,

> > > > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

> > happen

> > > > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those

regressive

> > > > problems in my son. -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > > > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > > > daughter

> > > > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> > > spaciness

> > > > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

> > months

> > > > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year

took

> > > > valtrex

> > > > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor)

and

> > > MB12.

> > > > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

> > order

> > > > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and

the

> > > amino

> > > > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with

memory

> > and

> > > > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days.

She

> > > was

> > > > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed

her

> > > > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had

clostridia

> > > and

> > > > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

> > decided

> > > > to

> > > > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> > > florastar.

> > > > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

> > aches

> > > > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness,

low

> > > > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took

her

> > > back

> > > > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

> > well

> > > > and

> > > > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

> > continued

> > > > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights

would

> > be

> > > > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

You are welcome. SCD is free from complex sugars, it allows honey and

fruit, including dried fruit. It is recommended you cut down of those

though while yeast is suspected.

The original SCD is not casein free, it is only lactose free, as it

wasn't created with autistic kids in mind. We are on casein-free version

of the diet (which is a shame because the home-made yogurth as per

Elaine is supposed to be great for balancing the gut bacteria). We also

tried goat-milk yogurt, which lots of kids tolerate fine, but that

didn't work for us either.

you can find out more on

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/autism/autism.htm and

www.pecanbread.com

Sac.boulardii is a type of 'friendly' yeast that is supposed to be great

help in fighting clostrida. I think it is easy to get hold of, just try

googling it. It is recommended you don't give it for long stretches of

time in case of compromised immune system (which most of our kids have),

some say a week at a time, some say a month is ok. I know people that

have used it for much longer than that with no problems but we chose to

stop after a month. Might restart at some point.

Hope this helps,

Natasa

> > > > >

> > > > > Tracey,

> > > > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and

yeast

> > > > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> > > antivirals,

> > > > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

> > happen

> > > > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those

regressive

> > > > problems in my son. -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > > > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > > > daughter

> > > > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> > > spaciness

> > > > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

> > months

> > > > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year

took

> > > > valtrex

> > > > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor)

and

> > > MB12.

> > > > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

> > order

> > > > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and

the

> > > amino

> > > > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with

memory

> > and

> > > > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days.

She

> > > was

> > > > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed

her

> > > > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had

clostridia

> > > and

> > > > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

> > decided

> > > > to

> > > > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> > > florastar.

> > > > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

> > aches

> > > > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness,

low

> > > > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took

her

> > > back

> > > > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

> > well

> > > > and

> > > > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

> > continued

> > > > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights

would

> > be

> > > > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I feel for us SCD and probiotics are (almost) enough defence against

yeast in general, having said that we do not have much choice in that

matter

Sac.boulardii is not a probiotic, it is a type of yeast - although it

does have a 'probiotic' type effect. I am not sure it fights other

bacteria except clostrida. Clostrida is quite common in ASD kids, might

be because of week immune systems that it is allowed to take hold. Same

with yeast and dysbiotic flora.

Natasa

> > > > >

> > > > > Tracey,

> > > > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and

yeast

> > > > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> > > antivirals,

> > > > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

> > happen

> > > > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those

regressive

> > > > problems in my son. -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > > > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > > > daughter

> > > > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> > > spaciness

> > > > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

> > months

> > > > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year

took

> > > > valtrex

> > > > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor)

and

> > > MB12.

> > > > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

> > order

> > > > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and

the

> > > amino

> > > > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with

memory

> > and

> > > > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days.

She

> > > was

> > > > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed

her

> > > > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had

clostridia

> > > and

> > > > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

> > decided

> > > > to

> > > > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> > > florastar.

> > > > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

> > aches

> > > > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness,

low

> > > > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took

her

> > > back

> > > > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

> > well

> > > > and

> > > > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

> > continued

> > > > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights

would

> > be

> > > > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I feel for us SCD and probiotics are (almost) enough defence against

yeast in general, having said that we do not have much choice in that

matter

Sac.boulardii is not a probiotic, it is a type of yeast - although it

does have a 'probiotic' type effect. I am not sure it fights other

bacteria except clostrida. Clostrida is quite common in ASD kids, might

be because of week immune systems that it is allowed to take hold. Same

with yeast and dysbiotic flora.

Natasa

> > > > >

> > > > > Tracey,

> > > > > The garlic and cinnamin may not be enough for the yeast and

yeast

> > > > isn't necessarily a bad thing when doing antibacterials and

> > > antivirals,

> > > > you just have to stay on top of it. It could be yeast or do you

> > happen

> > > > to have her on a calcium supplement? Calcium caused those

regressive

> > > > problems in my son. -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >From: deltaskymiles2317 tracy@

> > > > > >Date: Wed Apr 26 13:37:33 CDT 2006

> > > > > >mb12 valtrex

> > > > > >Subject: Need help for my daughter who is in a

> > > > regression and we cannot figure out why

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a previous email I described what is going on with my

> > > > daughter

> > > > > >. If anyone has insight into this I would be grateful. Her

> > > spaciness

> > > > > >and distraction are really prevalent right now., for about 2

> > months

> > > > > >she did well. A bit of history, She chelated for a year

took

> > > > valtrex

> > > > > >for 8 months and was currently on an amino acid (travecor)

and

> > > MB12.

> > > > > >The Mb12increased hyperactivity (I have since read that many

> > order

> > > > > >without the folinic acid which I plan to try next time) and

the

> > > amino

> > > > > >acids calmed her down. she started struggling more with

memory

> > and

> > > > > >stomach aches so we took her off of everything for 3o days.

She

> > > was

> > > > > >still complaining about stomach aches and a lab test revealed

her

> > > > > >yeast was down but she had clostirdia. My son also had

clostridia

> > > and

> > > > > >we used flagyl on him. THe flagyl increased his yeast so I

> > decided

> > > > to

> > > > > >use allicin with her (garlic and cinnamon) and a probiotic

> > > florastar.

> > > > > >Anyway, we added back the supplements and Mb12 . Her stomach

> > aches

> > > > > >have subsided but she has regressed in behavior. Spaciness,

low

> > > > > >energy, much difficulty with focus and concentration. I took

her

> > > back

> > > > > >off the MB12 thinking she was not processing something in it

> > well

> > > > and

> > > > > >because she was getting very stuffy nosed. Regression has

> > continued

> > > > > >could the the Allicin be causing any of this? ANy insights

would

> > be

> > > > > >greatly appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >