Re: Digest Number 58

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Dear Dr. Barbara,

I, too, am interested in why you chose to assist this list, as many

of our children do not have ADHD with their OCD. I am a MSW, specializing in

family therapy. Others have commented how " lucky " my daughter is that I am

in this profession. But when she was first diagnosed, I went into a terrible

tailspin because I knew the ramifications of this diagnosis!! And being a

social worker does not make parenting an OCD child easier!! It's always

painful to watch your child struggle, especially when OCD seems to play so

" dirty " (pardon the pun!!!!)

Welcome to the list, Dr. Barbara. We're glad to have you with us.

Gail

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In a message dated 4/1/99 12:41:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

onelist writes:

<< From: Dana Carvalho <clayvon@...>

Subject: Re: The New Kid on the Block >>

Dear Dana:

I have two sons with ADD, one of whom has a mild form of OCD, namely

obsessing on a thought. I am a licensed marriage, family, child therapist in

private practice in Calabasas, California. I try to do a lot of listening

and reassuring. I also do hypnosis with him to help him to feel more secure

in himself--work on self-esteem and identifying his strengths. We have tried

several medications, but most work on the compulsions, and so far, nothing

has helped him with the obsessing. I have found that patience and support

are the best " medications " so far. It is difficult to be a parent, but it is

also equally if not more difficult to be a child with OCD.

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thank you for the reply re double jepardy..i was told the inteferon

would be detremental right now in light of the kidney...so far i have

lost 30 lbs from the hep c

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>Subject: Re: Digest Number 58

>Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 08:59:47 +0000

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>From: arbrus@...

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>Hi, I am replying to several messages at once as I received them

>together in the digest:

>1. I am waiting to hear what a GEC is.

>2. Re: stomach problems: take digestive enzymes with food, eat

>small meals, don't eat a lot of starch with protein, apply castor

oil

>packs to abdomen (I can send insructions if interested).

>3. Re: double jeopardy: I contracted HepC from treatment for

uterine

>cancer a year ago. Cancer appears to be gone but who knows? The

>possibility of return hangs over my head, as does the unknown course

>of the HepC. Also cannot take interferon, so am using natural

>therapies such as organic foods, herbs, diet, supplements to improve

>immune system. I go to a naturopath and subscribe to

>jovoonelist, an e-mail community for others going this route.

>4. Re: living one day at a time: Essential. Plan for the future

>but don't take it for granted. Seize the day.

>

>Arlene

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Hi, I am replying to several messages at once as I received them

together in the digest:

1. I am waiting to hear what a GEC is.

2. Re: stomach problems: take digestive enzymes with food, eat

small meals, don't eat a lot of starch with protein, apply castor oil

packs to abdomen (I can send insructions if interested).

3. Re: double jeopardy: I contracted HepC from treatment for uterine

cancer a year ago. Cancer appears to be gone but who knows? The

possibility of return hangs over my head, as does the unknown course

of the HepC. Also cannot take interferon, so am using natural

therapies such as organic foods, herbs, diet, supplements to improve

immune system. I go to a naturopath and subscribe to

jovoonelist, an e-mail community for others going this route.

4. Re: living one day at a time: Essential. Plan for the future

but don't take it for granted. Seize the day.

Arlene

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arbrus@... wrote:

>

> From: arbrus@...

>

> Hi, I am replying to several messages at once as I received them

> together in the digest:

> 1. I am waiting to hear what a GEC is.

> 2. Re: stomach problems: take digestive enzymes with food, eat

> small meals, don't eat a lot of starch with protein, apply castor oil

> packs to abdomen (I can send insructions if interested).

> 3. Re: double jeopardy: I contracted HepC from treatment for uterine

> cancer a year ago. Cancer appears to be gone but who knows? The

> possibility of return hangs over my head, as does the unknown course

> of the HepC. Also cannot take interferon, so am using natural

> therapies such as organic foods, herbs, diet, supplements to improve

> immune system. I go to a naturopath and subscribe to

> jovoonelist, an e-mail community for others going this route.

> 4. Re: living one day at a time: Essential. Plan for the future

> but don't take it for granted. Seize the day.

>

> Arlene

>

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Hello

What supplements do you take to strenghten your immune system? I too am

no longer a canidate for interferon treatments due to the damage it did

to me the first time, so I need to keep my system well tuned.

I suffer from bloating too, what was the castor oil treatment and what

enzymes do you mean? My wife swears by papaya chewable tablets and she

says to try those.

What other natural remedies to you use? Is that e-mail community you

talked about for hep c people who want to use natural remedies?

Thanks Joe

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>Subject: [ ] Digest Number 58

>Date: Sun, Jan 23, 2000, 2:27 AM

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Dawn,

Boy your life seems a lot like mine. Just like you, four

months after my mom passed away (Jan 98) I got engaged. One year later

(Apr. 99) I got married. (I'm surprised my husband married me after what I

must have put him through planning the wedding! LOL). We just bought a

house (last week) and are now in the building process. I'm 23 years old, my

husband 24 and we'll probably start having children in about 2 ½ to 3 years

or so. I would love to go off my meds while I'm pregnant and breastfeeding

but the reason it scares me is that my seizures don't seem to coincide in

any way at all with my seizures. I too was on Depo and it didn't seem to

have an effect on my seizures. I would love to think that my seizures would

stop during that time but I know that once your pregnancy tests come back

positive, they WILL NOT change your meds whatsoever for risk of harming the

child more. I guess I'm just frightened that if I take the risk of stopping

my meds and the hormones don't help, then I'm exposing my baby to just as

much harm, by having the seizures. I also don't want to be restricted from

driving for the year that I'm pregnant. I don't know what to do really. I'm

going to have to research it a little more myself as well as see what the

Dr.'s have learned about the effects of Lamictal during pregnancy. One nice

thing about Lamictal is that it's efficacy doesn't seem to be affected by

hormone changes ( Just like when you mix epilepsy meds with birth control

pills I know with Felbatol, the efficacy of the pill is increased and with

Depakote efficacy of the pill is decreased by hormonal changes).

I went to Colorado State. My major was in Occupational

Therapy (with a concentration on Neonatal) which probably explains why I'm

working in a Corporate office as a Business Analyst for our Finance and

Legal depts. Right ? LOL I had about 2 years left of a 5 year program when

my mom died. I took some time off (or so I thought) that semester but by

fall I was still pretty unfocused on life and in no shape to concentrate on

school so I kept working instead. Late fall I went ahead and moved to

Denver and found a job there (about an hour away from CSU) since I would be

getting married soon anyway. My husband is in school right now so as soon

as he finishes I want to go back ¾ to full time, though I think I'll change

my major - I don't want to have to commute to Ft. for an OT program.

I want to finish my degree before we have any kiddos if I can. So what do

you want to do with your Bio degree? What do you do now? I wish you the

best of luck studying with a five year old around! I know this a pretty

personal question, but what did you do to educate your child about your

seizures and what was the reaction?

Take care,

Amy Caruso

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Amy,

I haven't really outright educated my son about my seizures.

He knows that I have them, and when I'm having one, but I

almost believe that he thinks this is a normal thing. At

one point, when my seizures were getting way out of control

and my symptoms were worsening, I instructed him that if he

ever found me sleeping somewhere(especially someplace like

the floor!!)that he was to vigorously shake me or call my

name very loudly. If he did this 3 times, and I didn't re-

spond, he was to dial 911. obviously, this isn't much of

an issue anymore, but it's good for him to keep in the back

of his head in case he should find anyone(grandfather,grand-

mother and so on) in that situation.

As for my Bio degree, I've never thought of doing anything

else except Pre-med. Since that is not an option,I guess, like

you, I'll probably wind up with a job that is totally unre-

lated to my degree. As far as study time goes, I'll be able

to get PLENTY of study time...I work midnights at a Parking

garage(at UIC) and since I obviously am not allowed to sleep on

the job, that will be my study time. It's sleep that will become

a valued commodity.

About the issue concerning meds and pregnancy, I wouldn't

flat out tell anybody to just up and quit their meds when they

get pregnant. It goes back to the saying , that everyone is

different...ie level of seizure control, types of seizures etc,

etc... It was a personal decision at the time, and while it

probably wasn't viewed as the smartest thing to do, I don't ever

regret that decision, and was very happy with the outcome. It

also allowed me a long seizure free period, which is a valued

thing, and it just feels so good to not be fading in and out of

consciousness, to be so alert...it's great. Though I haven't

even been with anyone since my husband,my neuro and I had dis-

cussed what I did during my first pregnancy, and spoke hypo-

thetically about what should happen if I met someone and de-

cided to have more children, that she would be open to the

idea of stopping the meds....she said that I would have to be

monitored VERY closely, and if the seizures returned, even ever

so slowly, that I would have to promise(she hinted that she

would more or less Make me)to return to the meds. I guess either

decision is risky...having seizures because of no meds, or risk-

ing the withdrawal symptoms,and the small chance of birth de-

fects. My neuro said that while the risk of birth defects direc-

tly due to the meds is still fairly small, when it's your baby

that is affected, it changes your whole life. I suppose that is

why it is such an individual decision. Gotta go. Hope to speak

to you some more. You may e-mail me privately if you wish.

Take care,

Dawn

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Are seizures usually passed on through heredity?

I presume not, because I can't see any way that anyone who loves kids

would have kids and knowingly impose such a disorder on them.

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I think you can have a threshold susceptibility to INFECTION, IMMUNE SYSTEM

DYSFUNCTION. This enables the brain in the first place to have seizures, in

my humble opinion, and my research with autism connected to seizures

RE: [ ] Digest Number 58

>From: " Hawkins " <ghawk@...>

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>Are seizures usually passed on through heredity?

>

>I presume not, because I can't see any way that anyone who loves kids

>would have kids and knowingly impose such a disorder on them.

>

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,

The susceptability is what is inherited. Most people have

a certain threshold which may aid them in not having seizures.

A person with epilepsy, has a much lower threshold than the

average person, and therefore, it takes alot less to trigger

the seizures and thus, epilepsy. Then again, a person may

have a low threshold, and may never encounter the " trigger "

(ie, high fevers and so on) that causes them to have seizures.

One other thing, although I know that it is just your

opinion, I found your sentence about " passing on epilepsy "

somewhat elitest of you. You make it sound like this big

ugly, shoved in the closet type of thing. It's like saying

that epileptics shouldn't breed. The chance of passing on

the particuliar gene that inherited forms of epilepsy are

carried on are considerably small. Let's say that 90% of

children whose parents carry the epilepsy gene, never show

any signs of seizures whatsoever. You are concentrating on

the 10% who DO inherit it. On the flip side, let's say that

you were diagnosed with (God forbid) cancer, and the Dr. says

that if you choose a particuliar treatment, it has a 90%

success rate. Are you gonna sit there and dwell on, and thus

base your decision solely on the 10% who weren't successfully

treated. Somehow I suspect that you would choose the treat-

ment BECAUSE of its 90% success rate. Also, some forms of

inherited epilepsy, such as absence seizures, are not that

severe as opposed to many other types of seizures...and many

childhood forms of epilepsy are outgrown by adulthood. Just

my opinion...don't be offended.

Take care,

Dawn

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Someone asked me a question privately. Responding to them here on list,

and Dawn as well. Thanks for the comments.

> Do you resent your parents now ?

That's a good question. My parents don't have it though.

I have not been diagnosed with it. I just have a tendency to

pass out real easy, and doctors can't find anything wrong.

They appear clueless, not even asking the right questions,

like what I was going through before I passed out. Once I

had contacted gasoline with my hands, once was breathing fumes,

once under a lot of stress with little sleep, etc. I'm here

just in case, and to learn what I can, mainly.

But my grandfather died with Parkinson's, and I heard it tends

to strike every other generation. I don't think it crossed my

parents' minds, and it might not hit me, but if they consciously had

kids knowing they might propogate that, yes, I would think less of

them for doing that. It would be a sign they cared more about their

own desires than me. Personally, I love the kids I've never had,

I love them enough to not have them. I've had a vascectomy.

Dawn, I'm not offended, and appreciate your willingness to offer your

point of view, and I think it is probably shared by many, stated well.

An issue worth wrestling with. If there were a less stringent term

than elitism available, I'll bet you would have opted for it. I

can't think of one myself. But elitism is really too strong I think,

and might apply if some group were dictating who can and can't have kids.

Not suggesting that. Still it is probably good that you mentioned it,

so the issue could be brought to light.

We breed animals trying to obtain the best. We are certainly capable

of caring at least as much about our fellow human beings.

I'm just saying that if there were a reasonable chance that I might produce

children who would have to suffer with a malady, I would consider it

massively myopic and narcissistic of me to proceed. I would be reducing

quality of life in the world not only for those individuals, but also for

those who would know them, reducing their opportunities, their happiness,

subjecting them to suffering, sadness, viewed by others as inferior, and so on.

Instead I value the sense of accomplishment my self-control brings, and

it seems to me an act of perhaps the truest and noblest love I can perform

for those who would have been my offspring, and for those who breath this

air with me now. My love for my would-be sons and or daughters is 100 percent.

> RE: [ ] Digest Number 58

> >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:48:28 -0800

> >

> >Are seizures usually passed on through heredity?

> >

> >I presume not, because I can't see any way that anyone who loves kids

> >would have kids and knowingly impose such a disorder on them.

> >

> >

> >

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Oh ,

that truly makes me sick to think that someone thinks that a person would do

something so knowingly. many people woh have epilepsy have no known origin

and like us we do. and many people with epilepsy in their families out grow

it when their adults. it doesn't change who we are and our love for our

children. we just resolve to help them become stronger as a result of this

disorder of the brain not of the soul.

[Guest guest]

,

Perhaps my use of the word elitest was a bit strong..but

you're right about my not being able to come up with

another word. I don't know my parents(I'm adopted)so I

can't even say for sure that my seizures WERE hereditary.

Perhaps my bio mother had some sort of accident, or fetuses

have been known to have in utero strokes. Perhaps while

going through the birth process, I was somehow deprived

of oxygen for a time. Who's to say, at least in my case

anyway. My pediatrician guessed that I may have been a

difficult birth, as I have forceps marks on my body. Do

you know what I think is the absolute worst thing someone

could do? I know quite a few of my friends who while pregnant,

deliberately drank mass quantities of alcohol, and used

drugs such as marijuana and coke. To have a genetically in-

herited malady is no one's choice...but to be almost perfectly

healthy and PURPOSELY and KNowingly do things like that is

the most selfish thing I can possibly think of. That is

definitely a lack of self control. Anyway, I digress.

I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that there are

SO MANY health problems (both serious and not so serious) that

95%(my guesstimate) probably shouldn't procreate. While I

know this analogy is a bit extreme, the basic premise is the

same....the movie Gattaca. Babies were genetically engineered

to be perfect in both intelligence and health wise. Anyone

who was nearsighted was considered to be inferior, let alone

more serious things, such as Parkinsons. Of course,even the

possibility of things reaching that level is still far off

in the future....to be able to wipe out ALL genetic defects

that is. My best friend, like you, refuses to have children.

It is not because of any genetic health factors. It is be-

cause the world is such a difficult place to try to be a

child at this point. Children bringing guns to school and

shooting each other. I'm sure you heard about the 6 yr old

who went to school and shot another 6yr old classmate...Out-

rageous. Gangs don't use their fists or knives anymore...they

use Uzis and God only knows what else. Things are so ridiculous

that now, people get killed for wearing the wrong colors. I

guess to some extent, I see her point as I do yours. But I'm

sure you've heard of the philosophy " to every YIN there must

be a YANG " . Boy, did you open Pandora's box when you brought

this subject up!LOL. Definitely a different subject that's for

sure. Hope to hear back from you.

Take care,

Dawn

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,

I understand your reasoning, I don't necessarily agree with your

opinion, but I think I understand how you are coming to your

conclusions. My grandmother had ovarian cancer, as did my aunt and

my mother. All three died from it. I am 23 years old and am almost

guarenteed to get it as well......IF I don't take a few precautions.

When my mother got pregnant with me, they didn't know as much about

it, or it's herediary tendancies as they do now. Am I angry at my

mother for possibly giving me this awful disease? Never, not once,

have I EVER even had that type of thought cross my mind. Why? Well,

there are a couple of reasons. I am so unbelievably fortunate to

have the parents that I do. They have given me 23 years of wisdom,

love, laughter and life. If I were diagnosed with cancer tomorrow, I

would probably be very upset, but never with my mom. By taking

certain precautions I can reduce my risk of getting it by an

astronomical percent. Just by taking birth control pills until I'm

ready to have children - I reduce my chances 70%. If I have my

children by the time I'm 32 then have a hysterectomy, I lower my risk

to almost nothing. Will I have children, you bet I will - 2 or 3.

Am I being selfish? Deep down in my heart, I know I'm not. As you

said,I love children enough, that I would never, do anything that I

thought would hurt them. You're playing with statistics. You can't

live, nor make your children live in a glass bubble. If everyone

played the " what if " ; " 1 in 3000 might have..... " game, no one would

ever have children. No one would drive their children around in

cars, let them play sports etc. Noone who didn't know their

biological parents would ever have children. I think that you just

have to use your own best judgment and weigh the risks as carefully

as you know how.

-Amy Caruso

> Someone asked me a question privately. Responding to them here on

list,

> and Dawn as well. Thanks for the comments.

>

> > Do you resent your parents now ?

>

> That's a good question. My parents don't have it though.

> I have not been diagnosed with it. I just have a tendency to

> pass out real easy, and doctors can't find anything wrong.

> They appear clueless, not even asking the right questions,

> like what I was going through before I passed out. Once I

> had contacted gasoline with my hands, once was breathing fumes,

> once under a lot of stress with little sleep, etc. I'm here

> just in case, and to learn what I can, mainly.

>

> But my grandfather died with Parkinson's, and I heard it tends

> to strike every other generation. I don't think it crossed my

> parents' minds, and it might not hit me, but if they consciously

had

> kids knowing they might propogate that, yes, I would think less of

> them for doing that. It would be a sign they cared more about

their

> own desires than me. Personally, I love the kids I've never had,

> I love them enough to not have them. I've had a vascectomy.

>

> Dawn, I'm not offended, and appreciate your willingness to offer

your

> point of view, and I think it is probably shared by many, stated

well.

> An issue worth wrestling with. If there were a less stringent term

> than elitism available, I'll bet you would have opted for it. I

> can't think of one myself. But elitism is really too strong I

think,

> and might apply if some group were dictating who can and can't have

kids.

> Not suggesting that. Still it is probably good that you mentioned

it,

> so the issue could be brought to light.

>

> We breed animals trying to obtain the best. We are certainly

capable

> of caring at least as much about our fellow human beings.

>

> I'm just saying that if there were a reasonable chance that I might

produce

> children who would have to suffer with a malady, I would consider

it

> massively myopic and narcissistic of me to proceed. I would be

reducing

> quality of life in the world not only for those individuals, but

also for

> those who would know them, reducing their opportunities, their

happiness,

> subjecting them to suffering, sadness, viewed by others as

inferior, and so on.

>

> Instead I value the sense of accomplishment my self-control brings,

and

> it seems to me an act of perhaps the truest and noblest love I can

perform

> for those who would have been my offspring, and for those who

breath this

> air with me now. My love for my would-be sons and or daughters is

100 percent.

>

>

>

> > RE: [ ] Digest Number 58

> > >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:48:28 -0800

> > >

> > >Are seizures usually passed on through heredity?

> > >

> > >I presume not, because I can't see any way that anyone who loves

kids

> > >would have kids and knowingly impose such a disorder on them.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Maureen:

will be 7 on April 5th....hard to believe since he's so tiny in height

and weight he looks like a 2 or 3 yr. old!

''s last ARD was weird.....teacher said he has " scattered

skills " ......new term for when they test high in some areas and low in

others..... tested at a SEVEN YEAR OLD reading level.....wait, guys,

before you fall off your chairs....he can't read a book or anything, but CAN

read everyone's names on the backs of their chairs....and he's the only one

in his class that can do that and most of the others are WAY ahead of him in

other areas and daily living skills......

STILL is in diapers, has no interest in potty training, so that to me is

a " toddler level " ......temper tantrums and stubborness is also like a 2 yr.

old's.....so go figure!

When the nurses or doctors ask me about him, I always hate to say he's 6

because really, in my mind, he's 2.......but those " scattered " skills really

amaze me...how can he be above in some things and really low on others???

I know kids that are on lower levels than he is, and they've been potty

trained and other things, since 3 or 4!! Maybe " picks " his

preferences.......LOL. If he's really interested in something....like that

school play the other week....he will give it his undivided

attention......and this is a kid with ADHD too!

Anyway, sorry it took so long to just tell you how old was! Are you

sorry you asked now??? hahaha.......

Regards,

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,

When Matt was 4-5 in preschool, he could also read all the names of all

the kids in his class. And there were some really strange names. Now,

unless you knew him, you would never really understand what he was saying

as he pronounced those names, but he always said each one the same way,

so I knew he was reading. Then in the " MH " class for the next year, they

woudln't begin to teach him to read, as he " wasnt' ready " . HE " Stalled "

for 3 years, but now, this year, he is really learning to read using a

site word method. I don't know if he ever will learn phonics, but he can

read by site method. Don't let the schools do to what they did to

Matt. Insist that they teach him. Use the " How to Teach YOur Child With

DOwn Syndrome to Read " book. It uses site words.

By the way, all of you who are reporting I.Q.'s in the 40's and

50's-----Matt's was 36! And that was done last year in the school that I

really liked and he loved, with people who new and loved him, giving him

every possible chance.

S

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>By the way, all of you who are reporting I.Q.'s in the 40's and

>50's-----Matt's was 36! And that was done last year in the school that I

>really liked and he loved, with people who new and loved him, giving him

>every possible chance.

I can relate! JJ's is about 20!

> & Garry, parents of (9), (8), JJ (6), (5), and

Esther (3). All adopted & with Down Syndrome.

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In a message dated 03/04/2000 1:20:44 PM Central Standard Time,

stolzfamily@... writes:

<< Use the " How to Teach YOur Child With

DOwn Syndrome to Read " book. It uses site words. >>

-- I agree with . This is what our school is using with ,

per my request, and she is doing well. Ask your school to purchase a copy or

purchase one yourself and give it to them for use with 's reading

program. It is called " Teaching Reading to Children with Down Syndrome " by

Logan Oelwein. I paid $16.95 for my copy through Woodbine House

publishers. Their phone number is 1-800-843-7323. This book is loaded with

great strategies for teaching reading at school and at home. Since our

district purchased this book, they have totally changed 's reading

program and are using Pat Oelwein's strategies. BTW, if you ever have the

opportunity to attend one of her presentations, go -- she's wonderful!

Good luck, and happy reading!

Maureen

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing your experience on treatment and afterwards.

For me, it doesn't sound like it is something that I could even possibly

do, with 3 children.

I just stay away from alcohol and drugs of any kind. I'm doing a few

herbs and right now I am working on cutting back on meat in my diet. I

do notice I feel better when I eat healthy foods and lots of vegetables.

For me, just doing these things has kept my liver enzymes in normal

range and my viral load low, last test was 195,000. I have never had a

high count and I'm sure it's because I don't use alcohol at all anymore.

I also don't take pain relievers unless I absoloutly have to, which is

not too often.

Thanks again for sharing your experience!

Love,

Sher

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[Guest guest]

Re: Grape juice & platelets

Does decrease in platelet activity mean a decrease in the number of

platelets?

Jerry Currin dx 7/00 w & w

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure I know what it means to " decrease platelet activity. " Is that a

good thing?

Sara

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[Guest guest]

I have a couple of Crawford videos. I really never do them since they bore

me.

On the great shoe debate, I never wear shoes unless I'm doing Step, the Firm or

at a gym class. I've spent mega bucks on shoes before and had them

professionally fitted etc and still shoes on carpet tend to grab and twist my

ankles. I've never had problems working out this way and I've been doing it for

over ten years. And this is coming from a girl who had her shoes specially made

for her as a kid because of her ankles and arches etc.

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