Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Ginger You mentioned this and I saw it in a couple formulas today although I haven't purchased them yet. I have never heard of it before. I think kirkmans carries this too. In regards to the immune system what exactly does this product do? Has anyone got any info on it???? kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the immune system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I think, though it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has recommended I try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as eagerly as I have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much of that " new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used it. Thanks, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi, Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the immune system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I think, though it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has recommended I try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as eagerly as I have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much of that " new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used it. Thanks, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 In a message dated 11/7/01 12:31:33 AM, cwkole@... writes: << > Hi, > > Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the immune > system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I think, though > it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has recommended I > try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as eagerly as I > have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much of that > " new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used it. > > Thanks, > Debbie > > Hi, >> Where do you get this, I am familiar with the IP 6, but not this. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 > Hi, > > Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the immune > system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I think, though > it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has recommended I > try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as eagerly as I > have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much of that > " new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used it. > > Thanks, > Debbie > > Hi, We have been using it since August, along with IP-6, and have had no colds. A couple of times it seemed like my son was coming down with something, but he bounced back right away. No adverse effects. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 In a message dated 11/7/01 3:57:55 AM Central Standard Time, jwend@... writes: > Where do you get this, I am familiar with the IP 6, but not this. > > Kirkmans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 OK, here's what I found out about Beta Glucan on Kirkman's web site, since it doesn't seem like too many of us are using it or have heard of it... Debbie > Beta-1,3/1,6-Glucan is one of the most powerful immune-enhancing nutritional > supplements. This unique compound stimulates the immune response to help > the body defend itself against foreign invaders and foreign substances. Its > mode of action is activating white blood cells known as macrophages, which > then surround, trap and engulf the foreign substances rendering them > inactive. > Beta-1, 3/1,6-Glucan has been shown in scientific studies to induce > protection against: > > Bacterial pathogens including E. coli, Staphyloccus aureus, mycobacterium > and V. salmonicda among others > > Fungal pathogens including Candida albicans > > Numerous influenza type viruses and certain hepatitis viral strains > > A variety of parasites > This exciting compound has also shown the ability to destroy mutated cells > and to increase the effectiveness of antibiotics and anti-fungal. It may > reduce the need for such drugs as well. > Beta Glucan is a plant based compound being derived from the cell wall of > the Sacchromyces ceravisiae organism. It is recognized as a long chain > polysaccharide molecule consisting of highly purified glucose. It is > different than regular glucose in that it is made up of many glucose > molecules linked together in a long branched chain with a specific chemical > arrangement in the first and third glucose positions. The frequency and > nature of the side chains have been shown to be very important for the > biological activity of different beta glucans. > It is the above chemical structure that separates Kirkman's > Beta-1,3/1,6-Glucan from other beta glucans. It is this form of glucan > which possesses superior immune enhancing functions. > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/specifications/Beta_Glucan/BetaGlucan_C_10 0_Spec.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 What is IP-6 and what does it help with? Thanks, Angie ---------- >From: cwkole@... > >Subject: [ ] Re: Beta glucan >Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2001, 1:29 AM > > >> Hi, >> >> Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the > immune >> system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I > think, though >> it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has > recommended I >> try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as > eagerly as I >> have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much > of that >> " new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used > it. >> >> Thanks, >> Debbie >> >> > Hi, > We have been using it since August, along with IP-6, and have had no > colds. A couple of times it seemed like my son was coming down with > something, but he bounced back right away. No adverse effects. > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 I wonder if this would be recommended if you already have an overactive immune system (i.e. MBP autoantibodies) or is that not how it works? Lori > OK, here's what I found out about Beta Glucan on Kirkman's web site, since it > doesn't seem like too many of us are using it or have heard of it... > Debbie > > > > Beta-1,3/1,6-Glucan is one of the most powerful immune-enhancing nutritional > > supplements. This unique compound stimulates the immune response to help > > the body defend itself against foreign invaders and foreign substances. Its > > mode of action is activating white blood cells known as macrophages, which > > then surround, trap and engulf the foreign substances rendering them > > inactive. > > Beta-1, 3/1,6-Glucan has been shown in scientific studies to induce > > protection against: > > > > Bacterial pathogens including E. coli, Staphyloccus aureus, mycobacterium > > and V. salmonicda among others > > > > Fungal pathogens including Candida albicans > > > > Numerous influenza type viruses and certain hepatitis viral strains > > > > A variety of parasites > > This exciting compound has also shown the ability to destroy mutated cells > > and to increase the effectiveness of antibiotics and anti-fungal. It may > > reduce the need for such drugs as well. > > Beta Glucan is a plant based compound being derived from the cell wall of > > the Sacchromyces ceravisiae organism. It is recognized as a long chain > > polysaccharide molecule consisting of highly purified glucose. It is > > different than regular glucose in that it is made up of many glucose > > molecules linked together in a long branched chain with a specific chemical > > arrangement in the first and third glucose positions. The frequency and > > nature of the side chains have been shown to be very important for the > > biological activity of different beta glucans. > > It is the above chemical structure that separates Kirkman's > > Beta-1,3/1,6-Glucan from other beta glucans. It is this form of glucan > > which possesses superior immune enhancing functions. > > > > > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/specifications/Beta_Glucan/BetaGlu can_C_10 > > 0_Spec.htm > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Hi, MGN 3 is similar to ImmPower, am I correct? Is the MGN 3 better? There are different beta glucans, does it matter which ones are used, or should they all be used together? Listed on my supplements are 1,3 1,4 1,6 Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 , For maximum effect, the research has shown a " therapeutic " dose of 25 mg. per Kilogram of body weight is best. Note: taking more will not increase the effect. (Divide you body weight by 2.2, to get Kilograms, then multiply the result by 25 mg. to get the therapeutic dose in mg.) This is about 500 mg. for each 50 lbs. of body weight. (For those not in " crises " 1/4 of that amount daily is sufficient). Should you end up " in between " doses, for example weighing 125 lbs. I would suggest that you alternate your dose - At 125 lbs; one day take the higher dose (3 ea. 500 mg capsules) and the next the lower (2 ea. 500 mg. Capsules). Take your Beta glucan all at once, first thing in the am. with nothing to eat or drink for 30 min. I found the best way for me is to place my Beta glucan on the bathroom counter along with a glass of water and take them as soon as I get up (or if I get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom; I take it then). It is extremely important that you take Beta glucan that is ultra purified i.e.. has the most protein removed (so there will be no chance of any allergic reaction) and has the most fat removed (so that you will absorb your Beta glucan most efficiently) and of course you want the least amount of ash (so you get more Beta glucan for your $$). Transfer Point Beta glucan and Ionized Alkaline Water were the basis of my recovery from Stage IV non-hogkins Tcell lymphoma. I offer two products on my web sites Transfer Point Beta glucan and AlkaBlue LX Ionized Alkaline Water Filters. I established these sites after my successful recovery and in order to recover financially from the bankruptcy that my health challenge forced me into . . . and to help others in their quest to regain their health. More information at my sites: www.aboutbetaglucan.com www.betterwayhealth.com Dave Perkins " enjoy being " FYI here is more information as to what I did to recover: I'm sorry to hear about the intrusion of this health challenge into your lif e, however, there are many products and protocols outside the " traditional " medical approach that have been very effective in helping people recover from cancer and other pernicious conditions. FYI here is a history of my challenge and what I did to survive. While these things worked for me, everyone is different. I hope you will be able to get some information from this that you can use. DAVID PERKINS (Born 11/19/40 (62 yrs.) CHRONOLOGY OF NON-HODGKINS T-CELL LYMPHOMA 8/96 Admitted to Cobb Hospital w/ 103 temp, diarrhea, and vomiting. Transferred to Veterans Admin. Hospital after 2 weeks with a diagnosis of Endocarditis. NOTE: Endo. was diagnosed one day before transfer - there was no sign of it the next day or ever again. 9/96 Non Hodgkins T-Cell Lymphoma , stage 4B diagnosed. Had 6 rounds of C.H.O.P. chemotherapy at the V.A. NOTE: approx. 5 weeks in intensive care before diagnosis. 12/96 Cancer in remission. 8/97 Started running very high fevers (104 - 105) - no cancer could be diagnosed. 11/97 Spleenectomy performed; bone marrow and liver biopsy negative. 12/97 CT Scan showed mass on L5 and into the soft tissue. Began chemo - Cytobaum (C.H.O.P. + ). 4/14/98 Autologus stem cell transplant at V.A. Hosp. Nashville, TN. In hosp. Approx. 60+ days. 6/98 Remission - no signs of Lymphoma 5/10/99 - 5/18/99 Hospitalized w/ fever and dehydration - had a very bad drug reaction. Bone marrow biopsy, CT scan and many other tests over the next month showed no cancer. Fevers continued until chemo. started in Aug. 6/25/99 (approx.) CT scan showed 10cm mass in lower Rt. Abdomen. At this time I was told " there is nothing more we can do - you are terminal " 8/6/99 Signed up for Phase II Interleukin 4 (boosts immune function) trial to avoid further Chemo. and to boost, rather than destroy, my immune system. 8/9/99 Interleukin trial cancelled before I could get started 8/9/99 - 8/13/99 V.A. Hosp., " Salvage Chemo. " administered (3 day continuous infusion E.S.H.A.P. - high dose Solu-Medrol, Cisplatin, Cytarabine, plus Prednesone). - the worst Chemo. I ever received. This is what they give you when " They " have lost hope and " know " you aren't going to recover. 9/14/99 - 9/16/99 Second round chemo. as above. Medically they consider this salvage chemo. i.e. " It will probably go into remission but it will be back in a short time " (and I will not be able to tolerate continual chemo. regimes). My diagnosis as of June '99 was " terminal " I firmly believe that I can overcome this disease and the recurrences through alternate therapies designed to detox my systems and build up my immune system. (My comments in Sept. of '99) Update Note: Well beyond my three year " anniversary " of the traditional Medical community designation of " terminal " and doing GREAT!! HIGHLIGHTS OF PROCEDURES Sept 1999 - Sept. 2000 - Green juicing (kale, char, parsley, cilantro, cucumber, celery, collards, beet, diakon, ginger, w/ enough carrot to make palatable - combine as available - 32oz per day - dropped off to 16 oz. daily and/or 32oz. of " Energy Soup " per Ann Wigmore recipe. - Colonic irrigation - Began in Sept. 99 - weekly; Oct-Nov. bi-weekly; now every 3 to 4 weeks - Coffee Enemas - 5-6 times/week; began Dec. 99; went to 2-3 times/week since April 00. Implant 4.5 oz. Chlorophyll w/ ½ Tbs. of Bifidus and ½ tsp. Lactobacillus complex. (If this generates too much gas I eliminate the Bifidus and L. Bacillus). Infrequenty now. - O3 (ozone) therapy - .5L one min. rectally (immediately after my enema) began Dec. 99. Discontinued after March 00 as I continued to use the Ionized Alkaline Water - Using " Rife " device (bio frequency therapy) daily - began in Sept. 99. - Dental mercury removed - Nov. 10 - Dec. 6. Two root canals pulled; two remain. - Mercury detox. per Dr. Tate DDS " synopsis " (eggs poached in coconut oil w/garlic daily - sulphur helps pull the mercury out) plus; DMPS chelation 12/8, 12/22. (infrequently since then) - Nutritional IV's (25 grams " C " w/ various B vits.) started in Sept. 99 - weekly until end of Oct. 99. Then went to 25 grams IV Vit. C - weekly; began 12/18/99; started 50 grams 1/8/00 (home administered to make affordable) - infrequently now - IV DMSO began 1/6/00 w/beta glucans and aloe - weekly, bi-weekly since April 99. Intermittently since then. - 15 min. on " Rebounder " (mini trampoline) most days to oxygenate my system and stimulate lymph movement. (infrequently now) - 15 min. on " Chi " machine most days (with oxygen via nose canula) - same reasons as " Rebounder " . Aggravated old knee injury, suspended March 00 - 10 min. in sauna (185 to 198 degrees) daily at local " Y " for detoxification, including 3-4 min. of " dry brushing " to stimulate lymph flow - Avoiding white flour; sugar; fruits; alcohol & most grains. (get rid of Candita) Cancer Loves Sugar - stay away from it - don't feed it things it likes that make it prosper. - 30-40 oz. " Ionized Alkaline water " purchased from a woman who has a water ionizing unit that splits filtered water into " acid " and " alkaline " components. This helps to make the water's oxygen more available to me at the cellular level, which helps detox my body at the cellular level. Purchased my own Water Ionizer (after finding a good unit that I could afford) in March 2000 and now use it for all cooking, drinking etc. Generally drink about 80 oz @ 8.5 to 9 pH daily. To learn more about Ionized Alkaline Water. Please visit my site: www.betterwayhealth.com This, along with Beta glucan were two of the most important protocols of my recovery program. - Four cups of Green Tea daily - made with the Alkalized water. Infrequently now. - Four cups of Green Tea daily - made with the Alkalized water - Colloidal Silver 1 to 2 oz. Per day of 5 to 10ppm strength - I make myself. - As of Sept. 2000 I have been incorporating many more raw and living foods into my diet. This is very alkalizing, also the chlorophyll in green vegetables carries a lot of oxygen. Not cooking your food (not heated above 108 degrees) leaves all the enzymes intact that allow for easy digestion. You save the energy your body normally uses to produce the enzymes necessary to digest cooked food, plus all the nutrients, that would be destroyed by cooking, are available to you. Your body can then use this energy and the nutrients to help you regain (or maintain) your health. Many cancer patients have recovered (even after they were told they were " hopeless " ) by going on a 100% living food diet. Note: While this is a very good " theraputic diet " not everyone thrives on a 100% live diet on a long term basis. Get hold of some information from Ann Wigmore's books. The healing foods she recommends are: - Wheat Grass Juice - Rejuvilac (made from sprouting then soaking soft pastry wheat berries - drinking the " juice " - Energy soup - a blended mixture of green sprouts, rejuvelac (or water), bukwheat lettuce, avacado and other things (salad in a blender) - Cultured Vegetables - fermented cabbage etc. Supplements, herbs: **Beta-1, 3-D Glucan 1500mg first in AM - empty stomach (500mg. per 50 lbs. of body weight for a Theraputic dose) Excellent Immune modulator - Maximizes the Appropriate Immune Response. I consider this My Most Important " supplement " and ONE I STRONGLY RECOMMEND, particularly if you are dealing with a chronic or life threating illness, or autoimmune type illnesses. MSM 1000mg x5 (Note: means 5 ea. 1000 mg. capsules each time) IP6 500mg. x6 MGN3 (Arabinaxylane compound) 250mg x2 (very expensive ARA6 is supposed to be the same thing) - I have discontinued this one. ARA6 (Arabinogalactan) (Larix occidentalis extract) 500mg. x6 Bio Zyme (Pancreatic enzymes) 325mg. x12 Jarro-Zyme (Porcine Pancreatic enzymes) 425mg. x4 Freeze dried Calf Liver 1 t. w/carrot juice x1 Pregest " cultured enzymes " x4 Sea Cure (White Fish) 500mg. x9 CoQ10 120mg x2 Alpha Limpoic acid 300mg (timed release) x2 Milk Thistle 80mg. x2 Garlic 12 mcg/gram x2 Selenium 200 mcg x2 Lecithin 1200mg x2 Magnesium 300mg. & Potassium 40mg. Asportates x2 Vit. E 400iu x2 Folic acid 800mcg. x1 Vit. B Complex 50mg. X2 Zinc x3 Cod Liver Oil capsules x2 Flax Oil 4Tbs. w/ home made Kefir Ground Flax seed Tbs. x3 Ground (together) sunflower, sesame and pumpkin seeds Tbs. x1.5 Green Powder (Presently, Barley Greens) Calcium Ascorbate 4 grams 2 times/day L-Glutamine 3,800mg. x1 Broken cell Chlorella 6 grams x1 Bernadine HCL 520mg. w/ Pepsin 20mg. taken with meals. Toco - food based vitamin/ mineral complex 1T x4 Homeopathic as recommended Note: This list is what I was taking (most of them 3 times a day) when I first began my recovery. I'm sure this is excessive, however, I was trying to do all I knew, at the time, to " blast " the cancer out. I have since reduced the frequency of my supplements to once per day, or less often, since introducing more raw and living food into my diet and consistantly drinking Ionized Alkaline Water. I also no longer feel it necessary take all the supplements on the list (nor can I afford it). In addition to the Ionized Alkaline Water, here is one of the most effective products I used (and am still using). It is Beta-1, 3-D Glucan. The most effective, proven, Immune system enhancer known. I would suggest that you consider using this; particularly if you are dealing with a chronic or life threatening illness or auto-immune type illness. If you are not in a crisis Beta glucan (at a reduced dose) will help keep your immune system functioning at the maximum appropriate level to help you enjoy an optimun state of health. I feel that Beta-1, 3-D Glucan, has made a huge difference in my recovery, by allowing me to get the maximum (appropriate) response from my ( " chemo. compromised " ) immune system: For more information go to my other site: http://www.aboutbetaglucan.com Contact me if you think this makes sense. I represent Transfer Point to Health Food Stores and can offer you a better price than the Manufacturer will offer. This is the most affordable and purest Beta glucan you can use. A theraputic dose of Beta glucan, for those in a health crisis, has been researched and shown to be 500 mg per 50 lbs. of body weight. About 1/4 of that would is used by persons not in crisis. Please understand, I'm not just trying to " load you up " with things that I represent. I have just had such success with this product (in addition to the Ionized Alkaline Water) that I want you to be aware of it's value. Now that I'm " out of the woods " and in good Physical health, I'm tying to recover my " Fiscal " health as well, by offering products and protocols I found effective for my survival. Here is a site index that will help you find the MD's in your area that practice " Complimentary/Alternative Medicine. They are a good place to get a second " Medical " opinion about your choices (outside of the Traditional Medical Community) if you aren't comfortable with " non MD " alternative practitioners. http://www.acam.org/doctorsearch.php If this doesn't work go to: http://www.acam.org/ and click on " doctor search " Please don't assume they are all equal. By nature, they are usually a caring, responsible bunch, but like any profession, there may be a few mercenary ones out there. The best way I have found to " check them out " is by asking other Health Professionals such as: Colonic Therapists, Chiropractors, Naturopathic Dr.'s, Electrodermal Screening practitioners etc. I would suggest that you get a Free subscription to The Dr. Moss Newsletter. He is very objective and evaluates both alternative and traditional approached to recovery. He really seems to stay on the " cutting edge " of new developments in both approaches - he really favors the " Alternative approach " whenever possible. To SUBSCRIBE TO HIS FREE NEWSLETTER: Please go to http://www.cancerdecisions.com/subscr.html and follow the instructions to be automatically added to this list. The Herring Foundation of Hope will send a Free " Hope Kit " to you or to someone your feel would benefit from the various tapes, books and other information it contains about cancer. This is a huge amount of material so I must warn you about " information overload " . It will be up to the recipient to determine what information is pertinent to them as the books etc. represent an extensive " survey " of fact and opinion. Call 770.667.9702 if you would like to request a " kit " . There are also some very helpful " lists " whose members represent a broad variety of backgrounds and where you can ask questions about various healing protocols and products. As you will see, some lists allow a very broad range of topics, while others are quite specific. Here is one of the broadest, with members of every persuasion. Mr. is very knowledgeable about many things and has done extensive " research " using Rife, the Enhancer, Willard Water, Water Oz, special diets etc. and has helped many people back to health. The place to sign up for 's Corner is the 's Corner homepage at: Mr_s_Corner Another " general " list: Post message: SymphonicHealth Subscribe: SymphonicHealth-subscribe List owner: SymphonicHealth-owner Files Page: SymphonicHealth/files/ URL to this page: SymphonicHealth Colloidal Silver is a very beneficial adjunct to any health program, in my opinion. I use it every day, internally and externally. Easy and inexpensive to make and SAFE to use. Great people on the list. Just get the basics. Making effective CS is quite easy. Making " perfect " CS could take a lifetime as you will see by some of the " techies " discussions To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-request@... more information: http://www.silverlist.com/SilverList.html#Subscribe with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. Some more " Specific " Lists I found of value: Cancercured List - This list has a good mix of alternative and traditional discussions. " A forum whereby people with any kind of physical problem can get their questions answered, and can take responsibility for their own health using natural methods. " To subscribe: -subscribe List Archives: http:///messages/ Bowel Cleanse: Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Oxygen therapies: OxyPlus Mailing List - oxyplus OxyPLUS is a moderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies and other alternative self-help subjects. The Oxylist archive (a now discontinued Oxygen list) remains accessible on the Oxytherapy.com website http://www.oxytherapy.com . OzoneTherapy Mailing List - ozonetherapy OzoneTherapy is a moderated list for the dissemination of information on ozone therapy and adjunct therapies. The approach is holistic and the emphasis is on self responsibility. A very good site with very good prices on Ozone and Oxygen Therapy is: http://www.o3zone.com/ozoneser/index-ther.htm " Den " is the person to contact, he has a great deal of knowledge. Please tell him I sent you. Raw and Living food (especially in the Atlanta GA area). http://www.rawfoods.com http://www.sproutcafe.com A large raw and living food email " list " (from Seattle, I believe) rawimmortal Also go to search for " rawforlife " to get on their email list. This is a good source to find persons following the " Living Food " lifestyle in your area. I believe this is one of the single most important dietary strategies that you should investigate. Rife: If you have the $$, I would suggest you investigate a Rife Machine. If you or someone you know is technically competent you can make your own with the plans from the patent holder, Dr. Bare (a true humanitarian). Dr. Bare's site. http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech/ To subscribe to the rife-alt-health list which covers alt-health modalities other than the rife-list - allows off topic discussions send a message to rife-alt-health-subscribe@.... I have a unit made by http://www.bodyharmonics.ca in Canada. I have been very happy with the unit and the service.- Meg Bonney is the person to contact. She and her partner Faye are very caring persons, they make a great unit with outstanding customer service. Meg's number: 250.890.2054; email: meglynn@... Please tell her I recommended her to you. For FREQUENCY LISTS for Bare-Rife generators see the Consolidated Annotated Frequency List (CAFL) which is the large " master list " compiled by McInturff. Go to: http://www.electroherbalism.com/ Here is another device. The Enhancer. It is designed to get the cells in the body back to their full energy potential so that your body can heal itself. I have heard remarkable testimonies about this device. I have just begun to use one for overall " maintainence " . It does not directly destroy diseased cells but powers the body's immune system, allowing removal of toxins at the body's own rate. This avoids the " healing crisis " from toxic die-off that can shock the body's elimination system. I would suggest a fully assembled system rather than the kit. http://www.dansenhancer.com Warning!! Some of these lists generate an enormous amount of email. The best way I have found to manage it is to have the posts automatically go to " message folders " in my Outlook Express where I can access them aside from my regular email. Here is how you can do this: (if you don't use Outlook Express - I don't have a clue) Click on: Messages Then: Create Rules for Messages Then, under " Connections " , Only check - " where Subject line contains specific words " box Then under " Actions " , Only check - " Move it to the specific folder " box Click OK and follow the prompts. If you have any problems (or if I have messed up these instructions) Please go to the " Help " menu. Believe me I'm NOT very computer literate. This is enough for now. I know when I was looking into all the " options " it was very easy to get into " information overload " . I gathered (and am still gathering) the information I have used to survive for over 4 years now. It's like trying to eat an elephant - do it " one bite at a time " :0) In summary: - Detox (Colonics, Ionized Alkaline Water, Beta Glucan) - Alkalize (Ionized Alkaline Water, Green " living foods " & Green Juicing) - Oxygenate (Ionized Alkaline Water, mild exercise, various Oxy. therapies) - Enhance Your Immune System (Beta Glucan - Ionized Alkaline Water) - Use the Rife unit, if you can afford one. Also, I would suggest that you search around for a good cancer support group. This will help your recovery immensely. It has been shown that people who regularly attend support groups have a much higher survival rate than those who don't. Support groups are like shoes - you may have to " try a few on " before you find one that suits you. It should be a very positive experience. If it isn't, shop around for one that provides this experience. I hope these " resources " will help you find the most effective ways to meet your health needs and those of others. I'm sending good wishes and healing energy to Trust in a Greater Power. Dave Perkins email: dperkins@... " enjoy being " web sites: www.betterwayhealth.com www.aboutbetaglucan.com Toll Free: 1.877.461.4463 [ ] Beta Glucan | Hello, | Does anyone know what the most beneficial dosage of Beta Glucan | should be? | Thanks, | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Jeff, I was once swayed with this argument. I actually started taking the mini doses of Beta glucan until I did some more research. I'm sorry but the micronization of the Beta glucan has never been shown clinically to have any impact on the effectiveness of Beta glucan. Also, there has never been any peer reviewed studies that have ever shown that these miniscule doses of 3 to 20 mg. of Beta glucan have produced any measurable effect in subjects the weight of the average human. Most studies indicate that an effective dose is 25 mg. per Kg of body weight. The 3 - 10 mg. doses were effective in subjects such as cotton mice and leghorn chicks, however, because the effective dose is weight dependent, you must extrapolate for the correct dose for subjects weighing 100 lbs. and more. This has been confirmed in over 800 animal and human studies and in the over 1,800 references to Beta glucan in MedLine (now PubMed - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ ). Dave Perkins " enjoy being " Re: [ ] Beta Glucan | | | Sorry I made a mistake in my last post. He suggests 500-1500 mg/day of Beta Glucan. | | | | heatheresh <heatheresh@...> wrote:Hello, | Does anyone know what the most beneficial dosage of Beta Glucan | should be? | Thanks, | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 thanks ,Dave ...will check out the sources...Many arguments can make sense and not be true...( that why we share our experiences in the REAL world with each other) thanks! jeff Re: [ ] Beta Glucan | | | Sorry I made a mistake in my last post. He suggests 500-1500 mg/day of Beta Glucan. | | | | heatheresh <heatheresh@...> wrote:Hello, | Does anyone know what the most beneficial dosage of Beta Glucan | should be? | Thanks, | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 If you go to www.transferpoint.com and click on beta glucan it will explain it's properties. I've been taking it for a couple years and feel better on it. laura > > , > I think most foot patches have tourmaline.That is how they generate > heat.http://www.healthmarvels.net/ > > > Re: rheumatic site for 20 dollar detox pads > > > > Hi , > > Well the site worked for me this time > > Can't wait to start using them > > Sure hope I'm doing the right thing just sending a check to a address I > > got > > on the internet. > > has anyone else bought from " healthmarvels " ? > > actually getting on the site explained a lot like why there are always > > different ingredients > > I called my accupuncherist the receptionerist hadn't heard of them but > > was > > very interested > > can't wait to tell her if they help me . she said she had used the > > foot bath & had acually concidered having blood work done befor & after > > to see > > if it did reduse toxins > > I just need some energy > > wish me luck > > bonnie in seattle > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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