Re: beta glucan

[Guest guest]

Ginger You mentioned this and I saw it in a couple formulas today although I

haven't purchased them yet. I have never heard of it before. I think

kirkmans carries this too. In regards to the immune system what exactly

does this product do? Has anyone got any info on it???? kelly

[Guest guest]

Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the immune

system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I think, though

it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has recommended I

try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as eagerly as I

have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much of that

" new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used it.

Thanks,

Debbie

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the immune

system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I think, though

it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has recommended I

try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as eagerly as I

have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much of that

" new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used it.

Thanks,

Debbie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/7/01 12:31:33 AM, cwkole@... writes:

<<

> Hi,

>

> Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the

immune

> system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I

think, though

> it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has

recommended I

> try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as

eagerly as I

> have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much

of that

> " new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used

it.

>

> Thanks,

> Debbie

>

>

Hi, >>

Where do you get this, I am familiar with the IP 6, but not this.

Jill

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

>

> Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the

immune

> system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I

think, though

> it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has

recommended I

> try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as

eagerly as I

> have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much

of that

> " new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used

it.

>

> Thanks,

> Debbie

>

>

Hi,

We have been using it since August, along with IP-6, and have had no

colds. A couple of times it seemed like my son was coming down with

something, but he bounced back right away. No adverse effects.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/7/01 3:57:55 AM Central Standard Time, jwend@...

writes:

> Where do you get this, I am familiar with the IP 6, but not this.

>

>

Kirkmans

[Guest guest]

OK, here's what I found out about Beta Glucan on Kirkman's web site, since it

doesn't seem like too many of us are using it or have heard of it...

Debbie

> Beta-1,3/1,6-Glucan is one of the most powerful immune-enhancing nutritional

> supplements. This unique compound stimulates the immune response to help

> the body defend itself against foreign invaders and foreign substances. Its

> mode of action is activating white blood cells known as macrophages, which

> then surround, trap and engulf the foreign substances rendering them

> inactive. 

> Beta-1, 3/1,6-Glucan has been shown in scientific studies to induce

> protection against:

>

> Bacterial pathogens including E. coli, Staphyloccus aureus, mycobacterium

> and V. salmonicda among others

>

> Fungal pathogens including Candida albicans

>

> Numerous influenza type viruses and certain hepatitis viral strains

>

> A variety of parasites

> This exciting compound has also shown the ability to destroy mutated cells

> and to increase the effectiveness of antibiotics and anti-fungal. It may

> reduce the need for such drugs as well.

> Beta Glucan is a plant based compound being derived from the cell wall of

> the Sacchromyces ceravisiae organism. It is recognized as a long chain

> polysaccharide molecule consisting of highly purified glucose. It is

> different than regular glucose in that it is made up of many glucose

> molecules linked together in a long branched chain with a specific chemical

> arrangement in the first and third glucose positions. The frequency and

> nature of the side chains have been shown to be very important for the

> biological activity of different beta glucans. 

> It is the above chemical structure that separates Kirkman's

> Beta-1,3/1,6-Glucan from other beta glucans. It is this form of glucan

> which possesses superior immune enhancing functions.

>

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/specifications/Beta_Glucan/BetaGlucan_C_10

0_Spec.htm

[Guest guest]

What is IP-6 and what does it help with? Thanks, Angie

----------

>From: cwkole@...

>

>Subject: [ ] Re: Beta glucan

>Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2001, 1:29 AM

>

>

>> Hi,

>>

>> Has anyone tried 1,3/1,6 Beta Glucan? It's supposed to boost the

> immune

>> system. My son has bacterial overgrowth (possible yeast, too, I

> think, though

>> it hasn't shown up on stool samples). My son's DAN doctor has

> recommended I

>> try it on my son. I no longer jump into trying " new " stuff as

> eagerly as I

>> have done previously, since my son has had bad reactions to so much

> of that

>> " new " stuff. I'd love to hear any reports by people who have used

> it.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Debbie

>>

>>

> Hi,

> We have been using it since August, along with IP-6, and have had no

> colds. A couple of times it seemed like my son was coming down with

> something, but he bounced back right away. No adverse effects.

>

>>

[Guest guest]

I wonder if this would be recommended if you already have an

overactive immune system (i.e. MBP autoantibodies) or is that not how

it works?

Lori

> OK, here's what I found out about Beta Glucan on Kirkman's web

site, since it

> doesn't seem like too many of us are using it or have heard of it...

> Debbie

>

>

> > Beta-1,3/1,6-Glucan is one of the most powerful immune-enhancing

nutritional

> > supplements. This unique compound stimulates the immune response

to help

> > the body defend itself against foreign invaders and foreign

substances. Its

> > mode of action is activating white blood cells known as

macrophages, which

> > then surround, trap and engulf the foreign substances rendering

them

> > inactive. 

> > Beta-1, 3/1,6-Glucan has been shown in scientific studies to

induce

> > protection against:

> >

> > Bacterial pathogens including E. coli, Staphyloccus aureus,

mycobacterium

> > and V. salmonicda among others

> >

> > Fungal pathogens including Candida albicans

> >

> > Numerous influenza type viruses and certain hepatitis viral

strains

> >

> > A variety of parasites

> > This exciting compound has also shown the ability to destroy

mutated cells

> > and to increase the effectiveness of antibiotics and anti-fungal.

It may

> > reduce the need for such drugs as well.

> > Beta Glucan is a plant based compound being derived from the cell

wall of

> > the Sacchromyces ceravisiae organism. It is recognized as a long

chain

> > polysaccharide molecule consisting of highly purified glucose. It

is

> > different than regular glucose in that it is made up of many

glucose

> > molecules linked together in a long branched chain with a

specific chemical

> > arrangement in the first and third glucose positions. The

frequency and

> > nature of the side chains have been shown to be very important

for the

> > biological activity of different beta glucans. 

> > It is the above chemical structure that separates Kirkman's

> > Beta-1,3/1,6-Glucan from other beta glucans. It is this form of

glucan

> > which possesses superior immune enhancing functions.

> >

>

>

>

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/specifications/Beta_Glucan/BetaGlu

can_C_10

>

> 0_Spec.htm

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

MGN 3 is similar to ImmPower, am I correct? Is the MGN 3 better?

There are different beta glucans, does it matter which ones are used, or

should they all be used together? Listed on my supplements are 1,3 1,4 1,6

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

,

For maximum effect, the research has shown a " therapeutic " dose of 25 mg.

per Kilogram of body weight is best. Note: taking more will not increase the

effect. (Divide you body weight by 2.2, to get Kilograms, then multiply the

result by 25 mg. to get the therapeutic dose in mg.) This is about 500 mg.

for each 50 lbs. of body weight. (For those not in " crises " 1/4 of that

amount daily is sufficient).

Should you end up " in between " doses, for example weighing 125 lbs. I would

suggest that you alternate your dose - At 125 lbs; one day take the higher

dose (3 ea. 500 mg capsules) and the next the lower (2 ea. 500 mg.

Capsules).

Take your Beta glucan all at once, first thing in the am. with nothing to

eat or drink for 30 min. I found the best way for me is to place my Beta

glucan on the bathroom counter along with a glass of water and take them as

soon as I get up (or if I get up in the middle of the night to go to the

bathroom; I take it then).

It is extremely important that you take Beta glucan that is ultra purified

i.e.. has the most protein removed (so there will be no chance of any

allergic reaction) and has the most fat removed (so that you will absorb

your Beta glucan most efficiently) and of course you want the least amount

of ash (so you get more Beta glucan for your $$).

Transfer Point Beta glucan and Ionized Alkaline Water were the basis of my

recovery from Stage IV non-hogkins Tcell lymphoma.

I offer two products on my web sites Transfer Point Beta glucan and AlkaBlue

LX Ionized Alkaline Water Filters. I established these sites after my

successful recovery and in order to recover financially from the bankruptcy

that my health challenge forced me into . . . and to help others in their

quest to regain their health.

More information at my sites:

www.aboutbetaglucan.com

www.betterwayhealth.com

Dave Perkins

" enjoy being "

FYI here is more information as to what I did to recover:

I'm sorry to hear about the intrusion of this health challenge into your lif

e, however, there are many products and protocols outside the " traditional "

medical approach that have been very effective in helping people recover

from cancer and other pernicious conditions.

FYI here is a history of my challenge and what I did to survive. While

these things worked for me, everyone is different. I hope you will be able

to get some information from this that you can use.

DAVID PERKINS (Born 11/19/40 (62 yrs.)

CHRONOLOGY OF NON-HODGKINS T-CELL LYMPHOMA

8/96 Admitted to Cobb Hospital w/ 103 temp, diarrhea, and vomiting.

Transferred to Veterans Admin. Hospital after 2 weeks with a diagnosis of

Endocarditis. NOTE: Endo. was diagnosed one day before transfer - there was

no sign of it the next day or ever again.

9/96 Non Hodgkins T-Cell Lymphoma , stage 4B diagnosed. Had 6 rounds of

C.H.O.P. chemotherapy at the V.A. NOTE: approx. 5 weeks in intensive care

before diagnosis.

12/96 Cancer in remission.

8/97 Started running very high fevers (104 - 105) - no cancer could be

diagnosed.

11/97 Spleenectomy performed; bone marrow and liver biopsy negative.

12/97 CT Scan showed mass on L5 and into the soft tissue. Began chemo -

Cytobaum (C.H.O.P. + ).

4/14/98 Autologus stem cell transplant at V.A. Hosp. Nashville, TN. In

hosp. Approx. 60+ days.

6/98 Remission - no signs of Lymphoma

5/10/99 - 5/18/99 Hospitalized w/ fever and dehydration - had a very bad

drug reaction. Bone marrow biopsy, CT scan and many other tests over the

next month showed no cancer. Fevers continued until chemo. started in Aug.

6/25/99 (approx.) CT scan showed 10cm mass in lower Rt. Abdomen. At this

time I was told " there is nothing more we can do - you are terminal "

8/6/99 Signed up for Phase II Interleukin 4 (boosts immune function) trial

to avoid further Chemo. and to boost, rather than destroy, my immune system.

8/9/99 Interleukin trial cancelled before I could get started

8/9/99 - 8/13/99 V.A. Hosp., " Salvage Chemo. " administered (3 day

continuous infusion E.S.H.A.P. - high dose Solu-Medrol, Cisplatin,

Cytarabine, plus Prednesone). - the worst Chemo. I ever received. This is

what they give you when " They " have lost hope and " know " you aren't going to

recover.

9/14/99 - 9/16/99 Second round chemo. as above.

Medically they consider this salvage chemo. i.e. " It will probably go into

remission but it will be back in a short time " (and I will not be able to

tolerate continual chemo. regimes). My diagnosis as of June '99 was

" terminal "

I firmly believe that I can overcome this disease and the recurrences

through alternate therapies designed to detox my systems and build up my

immune system. (My comments in Sept. of '99)

Update Note: Well beyond my three year " anniversary " of the traditional

Medical community designation of " terminal " and doing GREAT!!

HIGHLIGHTS OF PROCEDURES

Sept 1999 - Sept. 2000

- Green juicing (kale, char, parsley, cilantro, cucumber, celery, collards,

beet, diakon, ginger, w/ enough carrot to make palatable - combine as

available - 32oz per day - dropped off to 16 oz. daily and/or 32oz. of

" Energy Soup " per Ann Wigmore recipe.

- Colonic irrigation - Began in Sept. 99 - weekly; Oct-Nov. bi-weekly; now

every 3 to 4 weeks

- Coffee Enemas - 5-6 times/week; began Dec. 99; went to 2-3 times/week

since April 00. Implant 4.5 oz. Chlorophyll w/ ½ Tbs. of Bifidus and ½ tsp.

Lactobacillus complex. (If this generates too much gas I eliminate the

Bifidus and L. Bacillus). Infrequenty now.

- O3 (ozone) therapy - .5L one min. rectally (immediately after my enema)

began Dec. 99. Discontinued after March 00 as I continued to use the Ionized

Alkaline Water

- Using " Rife " device (bio frequency therapy) daily - began in Sept. 99.

- Dental mercury removed - Nov. 10 - Dec. 6. Two root canals pulled; two

remain.

- Mercury detox. per Dr. Tate DDS " synopsis " (eggs poached in coconut oil

w/garlic daily - sulphur helps pull the mercury out) plus; DMPS chelation

12/8, 12/22. (infrequently since then)

- Nutritional IV's (25 grams " C " w/ various B vits.) started in Sept. 99 -

weekly until end of Oct. 99. Then went to 25 grams IV Vit. C - weekly;

began 12/18/99; started 50 grams 1/8/00 (home administered to make

affordable) - infrequently now

- IV DMSO began 1/6/00 w/beta glucans and aloe - weekly, bi-weekly since

April 99. Intermittently since then.

- 15 min. on " Rebounder " (mini trampoline) most days to oxygenate my system

and stimulate lymph movement. (infrequently now)

- 15 min. on " Chi " machine most days (with oxygen via nose canula) - same

reasons as " Rebounder " . Aggravated old knee injury, suspended March 00

- 10 min. in sauna (185 to 198 degrees) daily at local " Y " for

detoxification, including 3-4 min. of " dry brushing " to stimulate lymph flow

- Avoiding white flour; sugar; fruits; alcohol & most grains. (get rid of

Candita) Cancer Loves Sugar - stay away from it - don't feed it things it

likes that make it prosper.

- 30-40 oz. " Ionized Alkaline water " purchased from a woman who has a water

ionizing unit that splits filtered water into " acid " and " alkaline "

components. This helps to make the water's oxygen more available to me at

the cellular level, which helps detox my body at the cellular level.

Purchased my own Water Ionizer (after finding a good unit that I could

afford) in March 2000 and now use it for all cooking, drinking etc.

Generally drink about 80 oz @ 8.5 to 9 pH daily.

To learn more about Ionized Alkaline Water. Please visit my site:

www.betterwayhealth.com

This, along with Beta glucan were two of the most important protocols of my

recovery program.

- Four cups of Green Tea daily - made with the Alkalized water.

Infrequently now.

- Four cups of Green Tea daily - made with the Alkalized water

- Colloidal Silver 1 to 2 oz. Per day of 5 to 10ppm strength - I make

myself.

- As of Sept. 2000 I have been incorporating many more raw and living foods

into my diet. This is very alkalizing, also the chlorophyll in green

vegetables carries a lot of oxygen. Not cooking your food (not heated above

108 degrees) leaves all the enzymes intact that allow for easy digestion.

You save the energy your body normally uses to produce the enzymes necessary

to digest cooked food, plus all the nutrients, that would be destroyed by

cooking, are available to you. Your body can then use this energy and the

nutrients to help you regain (or maintain) your health. Many cancer

patients have recovered (even after they were told they were " hopeless " ) by

going on a 100% living food diet. Note: While this is a very good

" theraputic diet " not everyone thrives on a 100% live diet on a long term

basis.

Get hold of some information from Ann Wigmore's books.

The healing foods she recommends are:

- Wheat Grass Juice

- Rejuvilac (made from sprouting then soaking soft pastry wheat

berries - drinking the " juice "

- Energy soup - a blended mixture of green sprouts, rejuvelac (or water),

bukwheat lettuce, avacado and other things (salad in a blender)

- Cultured Vegetables - fermented cabbage etc.

Supplements, herbs:

**Beta-1, 3-D Glucan 1500mg first in AM - empty stomach (500mg. per 50 lbs.

of body weight for a Theraputic dose) Excellent Immune modulator - Maximizes

the Appropriate Immune Response.

I consider this My Most Important " supplement " and ONE I STRONGLY RECOMMEND,

particularly if you are dealing with a chronic or life threating illness, or

autoimmune type illnesses.

MSM 1000mg x5 (Note: means 5 ea. 1000 mg. capsules each time)

IP6 500mg. x6

MGN3 (Arabinaxylane compound) 250mg x2 (very expensive ARA6 is supposed to

be the same thing) - I have discontinued this one.

ARA6 (Arabinogalactan) (Larix occidentalis extract) 500mg. x6

Bio Zyme (Pancreatic enzymes) 325mg. x12

Jarro-Zyme (Porcine Pancreatic enzymes) 425mg. x4

Freeze dried Calf Liver 1 t. w/carrot juice x1

Pregest " cultured enzymes " x4

Sea Cure (White Fish) 500mg. x9

CoQ10 120mg x2

Alpha Limpoic acid 300mg (timed release) x2

Milk Thistle 80mg. x2

Garlic 12 mcg/gram x2

Selenium 200 mcg x2

Lecithin 1200mg x2

Magnesium 300mg. & Potassium 40mg. Asportates x2

Vit. E 400iu x2

Folic acid 800mcg. x1

Vit. B Complex 50mg. X2

Zinc x3

Cod Liver Oil capsules x2

Flax Oil 4Tbs. w/ home made Kefir

Ground Flax seed Tbs. x3

Ground (together) sunflower, sesame and pumpkin seeds Tbs. x1.5

Green Powder (Presently, Barley Greens)

Calcium Ascorbate 4 grams 2 times/day

L-Glutamine 3,800mg. x1

Broken cell Chlorella 6 grams x1

Bernadine HCL 520mg. w/ Pepsin 20mg. taken with meals.

Toco - food based vitamin/ mineral complex 1T x4

Homeopathic as recommended

Note: This list is what I was taking (most of them 3 times a day) when I

first began my recovery. I'm sure this is excessive, however, I was trying

to do all I knew, at the time, to " blast " the cancer out.

I have since reduced the frequency of my supplements to once per day, or

less often, since introducing more raw and living food into my diet and

consistantly drinking Ionized Alkaline Water. I also no longer feel it

necessary take all the supplements on the list (nor can I afford it).

In addition to the Ionized Alkaline Water, here is one of the most effective

products I used (and am still using). It is Beta-1, 3-D Glucan. The most

effective, proven, Immune system enhancer known.

I would suggest that you consider using this; particularly if you are

dealing with a chronic or life threatening illness or auto-immune type

illness. If you are not in a crisis Beta glucan (at a reduced dose) will

help keep your immune system functioning at the maximum appropriate level to

help you enjoy an optimun state of health.

I feel that Beta-1, 3-D Glucan, has made a huge difference in my recovery,

by allowing me to get the maximum (appropriate) response from my ( " chemo.

compromised " ) immune system: For more information go to my other site:

http://www.aboutbetaglucan.com

Contact me if you think this makes sense. I represent Transfer Point to

Health Food Stores and can offer you a better price than the Manufacturer

will offer. This is the most affordable and purest Beta glucan you can use.

A theraputic dose of Beta glucan, for those in a health crisis, has been

researched and shown to be 500 mg per 50 lbs. of body weight. About 1/4 of

that would is used by persons not in crisis.

Please understand, I'm not just trying to " load you up " with things that I

represent. I have just had such success with this product (in addition to

the Ionized Alkaline Water) that I want you to be aware of it's value.

Now that I'm " out of the woods " and in good Physical health, I'm tying to

recover my " Fiscal " health as well, by offering products and protocols I

found effective for my survival.

Here is a site index that will help you find the MD's in your area that

practice " Complimentary/Alternative Medicine. They are a good place to get

a second " Medical " opinion about your choices (outside of the Traditional

Medical Community) if you aren't comfortable with " non MD " alternative

practitioners.

http://www.acam.org/doctorsearch.php

If this doesn't work go to:

http://www.acam.org/ and click on " doctor search "

Please don't assume they are all equal. By nature, they are usually a

caring, responsible bunch, but like any profession, there may be a few

mercenary ones out there.

The best way I have found to " check them out " is by asking other Health

Professionals such as: Colonic Therapists, Chiropractors, Naturopathic

Dr.'s, Electrodermal Screening practitioners etc.

I would suggest that you get a Free subscription to The Dr. Moss Newsletter.

He is very objective and evaluates both alternative and traditional

approached to recovery. He really seems to stay on the " cutting edge " of

new developments in both approaches - he really favors the " Alternative

approach " whenever possible.

To SUBSCRIBE TO HIS FREE NEWSLETTER: Please go to

http://www.cancerdecisions.com/subscr.html

and follow the instructions to be automatically added to this list.

The Herring Foundation of Hope will send a Free " Hope Kit " to you or to

someone your feel would benefit from the various tapes, books and other

information it contains about cancer. This is a huge amount of material so

I must warn you about " information overload " . It will be up to the

recipient to determine what information is pertinent to them as the books

etc. represent an extensive " survey " of fact and opinion. Call 770.667.9702

if you would like to request a " kit " .

There are also some very helpful " lists " whose members represent a broad

variety of backgrounds and where you can ask questions about various healing

protocols and products. As you will see, some lists allow a very broad

range of topics, while others are quite specific.

Here is one of the broadest, with members of every persuasion. Mr.

is very knowledgeable about many things and has done extensive

" research " using Rife, the Enhancer, Willard Water, Water Oz, special diets

etc. and has helped many people back to health.

The place to sign up for 's Corner is the 's Corner homepage at:

Mr_s_Corner

Another " general " list:

Post message: SymphonicHealth

Subscribe: SymphonicHealth-subscribe

List owner: SymphonicHealth-owner

Files Page: SymphonicHealth/files/

URL to this page: SymphonicHealth

Colloidal Silver is a very beneficial adjunct to any health program, in my

opinion. I use it every day, internally and externally. Easy and

inexpensive to make and SAFE to use. Great people on the list. Just get

the basics. Making effective CS is quite easy. Making " perfect " CS could

take a lifetime as you will see by some of the " techies " discussions

To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to:

silver-list-request@...

more information: http://www.silverlist.com/SilverList.html#Subscribe

with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line.

Some more " Specific " Lists I found of value:

Cancercured List - This list has a good mix of alternative and traditional

discussions.

" A forum whereby people with any kind of physical problem can get their

questions answered, and can take responsibility for their own health using

natural methods. "

To subscribe: -subscribe

List Archives: http:///messages/

Bowel Cleanse:

Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

Oxygen therapies:

OxyPlus Mailing List - oxyplus

OxyPLUS is a moderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies and

other alternative self-help subjects.

The Oxylist archive (a now discontinued Oxygen list) remains accessible

on the Oxytherapy.com website http://www.oxytherapy.com .

OzoneTherapy Mailing List - ozonetherapy

OzoneTherapy is a moderated list for the dissemination of information on

ozone therapy and adjunct therapies. The approach is holistic and the

emphasis is on self responsibility.

A very good site with very good prices on Ozone and Oxygen Therapy is:

http://www.o3zone.com/ozoneser/index-ther.htm " Den " is the person to

contact, he has a great deal of knowledge. Please tell him I sent you.

Raw and Living food (especially in the Atlanta GA area).

http://www.rawfoods.com

http://www.sproutcafe.com

A large raw and living food email " list " (from Seattle, I believe)

rawimmortal

Also go to search for " rawforlife " to get on their email list.

This is a good source to find persons following the " Living Food " lifestyle

in your area.

I believe this is one of the single most important dietary strategies that

you should investigate.

Rife:

If you have the $$, I would suggest you investigate a Rife Machine.

If you or someone you know is technically competent you can make your own

with the plans from the patent holder, Dr. Bare (a true humanitarian).

Dr. Bare's site.

http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech/

To subscribe to the rife-alt-health list which covers

alt-health modalities other than the rife-list - allows off topic

discussions

send a message to rife-alt-health-subscribe@....

I have a unit made by http://www.bodyharmonics.ca in Canada. I have been

very happy with the unit and the service.- Meg Bonney is the person to

contact. She and her partner Faye are very caring persons, they make a

great unit with outstanding customer service. Meg's number: 250.890.2054;

email: meglynn@... Please tell her I recommended her to you.

For FREQUENCY LISTS for Bare-Rife generators see the Consolidated Annotated

Frequency List (CAFL) which is the large " master list " compiled by

McInturff. Go to: http://www.electroherbalism.com/

Here is another device. The Enhancer. It is designed to get the cells in

the body back to their full energy potential so that your body can heal

itself. I have heard remarkable testimonies about this device. I have just

begun to use one for overall " maintainence " . It does not directly destroy

diseased cells but powers the body's immune system, allowing removal of

toxins at the body's own rate. This avoids the " healing crisis " from toxic

die-off that can shock the body's elimination system. I would suggest a

fully assembled system rather than the kit.

http://www.dansenhancer.com

Warning!! Some of these lists generate an enormous amount of email. The

best way I have found to manage it is to have the posts automatically go to

" message folders " in my Outlook Express where I can access them aside from

my regular email.

Here is how you can do this: (if you don't use Outlook Express - I don't

have a clue)

Click on: Messages

Then: Create Rules for Messages

Then, under " Connections " , Only check - " where Subject line contains

specific words " box

Then under " Actions " , Only check - " Move it to the specific folder " box

Click OK and follow the prompts.

If you have any problems (or if I have messed up these instructions) Please

go to the " Help " menu. Believe me I'm NOT very computer literate.

This is enough for now. I know when I was looking into all the " options " it

was very easy to get into " information overload " . I gathered (and am still

gathering) the information I have used to survive for over 4 years now.

It's like trying to eat an elephant - do it " one bite at a time " :0)

In summary:

- Detox (Colonics, Ionized Alkaline Water, Beta Glucan)

- Alkalize (Ionized Alkaline Water, Green " living foods " & Green Juicing)

- Oxygenate (Ionized Alkaline Water, mild exercise, various Oxy. therapies)

- Enhance Your Immune System (Beta Glucan - Ionized Alkaline Water)

- Use the Rife unit, if you can afford one.

Also, I would suggest that you search around for a good cancer support

group. This will help your recovery immensely. It has been shown that

people who regularly attend support groups have a much higher survival rate

than those who don't. Support groups are like shoes - you may have to " try

a few on " before you find one that suits you. It should be a very positive

experience. If it isn't, shop around for one that provides this experience.

I hope these " resources " will help you find the most effective ways to meet

your health needs and those of others.

I'm sending good wishes and healing energy to

Trust in a Greater Power.

Dave Perkins email: dperkins@...

" enjoy being " web sites: www.betterwayhealth.com

www.aboutbetaglucan.com

Toll Free: 1.877.461.4463

[ ] Beta Glucan

| Hello,

| Does anyone know what the most beneficial dosage of Beta Glucan

| should be?

| Thanks,

|

|

|

|

|

[Guest guest]

Jeff,

I was once swayed with this argument. I actually started taking the mini

doses of Beta glucan until I did some more research.

I'm sorry but the micronization of the Beta glucan has never been shown

clinically to have any impact on the effectiveness of Beta glucan. Also,

there has never been any peer reviewed studies that have ever shown that

these miniscule doses of 3 to 20 mg. of Beta glucan have produced any

measurable effect in subjects the weight of the average human.

Most studies indicate that an effective dose is 25 mg. per Kg of body

weight. The 3 - 10 mg. doses were effective in subjects such as cotton mice

and leghorn chicks, however, because the effective dose is weight dependent,

you must extrapolate for the correct dose for subjects weighing 100 lbs. and

more. This has been confirmed in over 800 animal and human studies and in

the over 1,800 references to Beta glucan in MedLine (now PubMed -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ ).

Dave Perkins

" enjoy being "

Re: [ ] Beta Glucan

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|

| Sorry I made a mistake in my last post. He suggests 500-1500 mg/day of

Beta Glucan.

|

|

|

| heatheresh <heatheresh@...> wrote:Hello,

| Does anyone know what the most beneficial dosage of Beta Glucan

| should be?

| Thanks,

|

|

|

|

[Guest guest]

thanks ,Dave ...will check out the sources...Many arguments can make sense and

not be true...( that why we share our experiences in the REAL world with each

other)

thanks!

jeff

Re: [ ] Beta Glucan

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|

| Sorry I made a mistake in my last post. He suggests 500-1500 mg/day of

Beta Glucan.

|

|

|

| heatheresh <heatheresh@...> wrote:Hello,

| Does anyone know what the most beneficial dosage of Beta Glucan

| should be?

| Thanks,

|

|

|

|

[Guest guest]

If you go to www.transferpoint.com and click on beta glucan it will

explain it's properties. I've been taking it for a couple years and

feel better on it.

laura

>

> ,

> I think most foot patches have tourmaline.That is how they generate

> heat.http://www.healthmarvels.net/

>

>

> Re: rheumatic site for 20 dollar detox pads

> >

> > Hi ,

> > Well the site worked for me this time

> > Can't wait to start using them

> > Sure hope I'm doing the right thing just sending a check to a

address I

> > got

> > on the internet.

> > has anyone else bought from " healthmarvels " ?

> > actually getting on the site explained a lot like why there are

always

> > different ingredients

> > I called my accupuncherist the receptionerist hadn't heard of

them but

> > was

> > very interested

> > can't wait to tell her if they help me . she said she had used

the

> > foot bath & had acually concidered having blood work done befor

& after

> > to see

> > if it did reduse toxins

> > I just need some energy

> > wish me luck

> > bonnie in seattle

> >

> >